I just got third row tix for bht&dmb, and i can't wait. does anybody know if there is a mailing list for bhtm and the show Party of Five? any info would be greatly appreciated. ChrisTop Permalink
I know it's a little late, but I got gypped out of seeing the show tonight because my ticket sent on Friday didn't come in the mail today. If anyone can help me out, it would be MUCH appreciated. Please e-mail me personally. Happy Valentine's Day to all. Dan EntinTop Permalink
Can you believe my luck? A friend of mine just called up and offered me a _free_ ticket to see DMB tomorrow night with the RSO!!!! I can't believe it!! Yahoo!! Just thought I'd share that with everyone. TugTop Permalink
to make some cool trades, and I did. But there were a lot of people who didn't have anything to trade. In fact, very few people even sent me their tapelist. But they wanted my DMB, and they were happy to pay the $6. In the past, I've given extra blanks for tapes, and no one seemed to find anything wrong with doing that. But, I guess there has been negative reaction to what I've done (I don't subscribe to minarets; I heard it from a friend who does) What's done is done, but now all I can do is stop selling my tapes, and that is what I will do. I guess I didn't think this through enough, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone. If it makes any difference, I've seen Shakes the Clown about 20 times, and it's one of my favorite movies :)Top Permalink
simple enough, i hate you all. no, wait. not all of you. just the ones who are listening to the the heart-melting strains of dmb and the rso at this moment. especially since my hopeful significant other is at the show without me. can't tell i'm bitter about all of this can you?!!!? 'nuff bitterness. i actually love each and every one of you. honestly. i do...... hope all of you are enjoying the show and to everyone else, welcome to the daveless club for black tuesday, 1995.... i'm getting too sentimental in my old age. i've been listening to dave all day. just couldn't get enough of it...... as it should be. now, real dave content. a very early rumor from a friend in a secret high place has dave and company playing trax here in the heart of daveland one more time. supposed show would be sometime this spring / early summer. can't divulge my source, nor will i commit 100% to this fact. only 99%...... i can't wait. one more show with dave at home...... will divulge more later when i get over this black tuesday bitterness thing...... my band will be playing out both friday and saturday this weekend.... if you are going to be in town, let me know. i will knight and guestlist each and every one of you who wants it...... besides, i still need to meet some of you folk..... going to be there, but i didn't know i would end up there. one of those surprise midnight date type of things.... helluva show though.... of course it has taken me six years to finish, but hey! i still don't know what i'm going to end up doing anyway...... should send old crow instead?........ first album shold have been titled "carter beauford is god". stop.... cameron, steve s., mr. o.: thanks for the simply delicious tapes. you've spread an entire new light on me......... well, gotta run kiddies. a certain set of drums is calling my name and they have "clean me" written all over........ brewTop Permalink
Will anyone who has access to the guitar tab files please be so kind as to send them my way. Thanks in advance. And if anyone knows where to get them, any info would be greatly appreciated.Top Permalink
Hi, I would like to be added to the Minarets mailing list in digest form. Thanks alot Sean FlynnTop Permalink
I've been to 4 DMB shows-'94 superjam in athens, Athens oct.94, The masquerade in atlanta july94, and dec94 at the Fox in atlant. I was hoping to get a copy of any of these shows as well as any versions of Sweet Home Alabama or Sympathy for the Devil. I have about 10 bootlegs that I would be willing to trade for any of these shows or any others. I am new to the net, so would somebody please write back as to how I can get access to this stuff. 95 and this coming summer.Top Permalink
It may be too early to ask for this, but i wanna get my line in there... tonight's show, or tomorrow's show please tell me, because i would like a copy of that one the most!!! It sounds like an awesome show, and i think it would be a diamond in my collection!Top Permalink
Please cancel mail listing for minarets, and if you can't please tell me how to ASAP. Thanks!Top Permalink
I am usually very critical of pointless messages but now feel compelled to write one myself. I was so overcome by the concert tonight; it was unreal. For those not there, the orchestration was incredible. I was even more excited that they pulled some songs out that I hadn't expected--namely Desperate Hours, Lie In our Graves, and GRANNY. The latter being in CAPS cause it was spectacular. Other highlights included Typical Situation which seemed written for just such an occasion. The hottest song had to have been Dancing Nancies and I think most will agree. BOYD WAS HOT. He absolutely was in the groove, shredding through his fiddle during that song. Ants Marching probably got the crowd going better than any other song. Although, I hate to admit it, they did a great job with that one too. Desperate hours had great orchestration. One of my faves, the Christmas Song was even resurrected. Let's see...what other songs were there...Warehouse, Pay for What You Get, Lover Lay Down, an encore of Say GOodbye (my personal fave), and unfortunately Satellite. I'm sure I am forgetting something, but almost as sure that someone will post a correct setlist sometime soon. PLEASE, If you smuggled in a tape recorder, tree this show..... Thanks for letting me ramble. PaulTop Permalink
I know that this is somewhat unrelated to dmb but i was wondering if anyone knew of any pearl jam internet and if so what it was or how to subscribe? I would appreciate it. thanks Al ------------------- End of network mailTop Permalink
Hi! Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies are playing a free (!) show here at Gettysburg on March 3rd. I was just wondering if anyone knew if SCW allow taping?Top Permalink
1 Setlist 2 Review 3 Gripes 4 An Event Which Made Everything O.K. 2/14/95 Carpenter Center, Richmond,Va w/RSO Set 1: Recently Granny Warehouse Typical Situation Lover Lay Down Ants Marching (BOO, HISS, NO MORE) Set 2: Lie In Our Graves Pay For What You Get Help Myself Satellite Christmas Song Dancing Nancies e. Say Goodbye the show was spectacular. the RSO added so much depth to songs like Granny, and Typical Situation. i sat in front of Leroi's family. they were so proud! DMB sounded very polished, as if they had been practicing for ever. i don't like Ants anymore! all of the under 18 year olds jumped up and danced and made noise, and basically bothered the shit out of everyone else. have some respect. most people were polite and sat through the performance. that's the way it is done at the symphony. people were yelling during Christmas Song. can you believe that?!!! anyway, i was kind of bummed with the younger audience. i thought that since we were in Richmond that the crowd would be made up of older fans who were there to appreciate the music. but....a great thing happened. my friend Matt and i went to a bar across the street for a beer after the show. on our way back to the 3rd Street Diner, we had to pass by the CC. as we walked by, Boyd and his wife walked out. we talked with them for a few minutes, and then Leroi walked out!!! after they left, Dave and his girlfriend kind of walked out non chalantly. we walked over and he signed our programs. i asked him if he would play Cry Freedom on the 15th, and he said that he would like to play it instead of Lover. COOL!! well, the gathering was great fun. it was cool to finally put faces to email adresses. everyone should go to a gathering!!!!!!! signing off because i am delerious, jonathan 1-800-HELP MYSELFTop Permalink
Good show, nice song selection, very well orchestrated, and very energetic (Boyd was cool!). The crowd sucked unbelievably. Rather than listen to the magic occuring before their eyes, they just screamed at the top of their lungs, "I love you Dave!!!!" Kiss my butt you bunch of high school pricks! (that's not intended for minareters, just for the crowd at the symphony.) Met some cool people, saw Catfish Jenkins again at the Floodzone right after Dave, yeahhh! BACKPACKS, ANYTHING!!!! They didn't give two hoots what you brought, so if anyone is going today, bring your DAT, walkman, whatever!!! Tape it, and don't mind the crowd, they're just ignorant. Scott Miller- Virginia Tech 529 Shanks Hall Blacksburg, VA 24060 sctm@vt.edu "Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"Top Permalink
after the Saturday Tower Theatre show, i was ranking on dave for telling me he forgot how Blue Water goes and he said, "No, man, I remember the SONG, I just forget the WORDS." since when has THAT stopped you, Dave? -anyoneotherthanme i remember posting here once that i could teach my siberian husky to play this song (actually, i could probably teach _my_ siberian husky to sing it, too. she can say "i love you"). for those that don't know, the entire 10 minute version of this song is c, em, c, em, over and over again. i don't really know the little progression at the end, so i'll ask my dog some time. as for forgetting the words, this is a song where that would stop dave, because it has pretty deep words. there's not many of them though, so he could probably remember the song in about 5 minutes with the help of this lyrics file we have floating around here somewhere. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
why are my posts taking 40 hours to back to me? i made the post about getting your own net gathering for the 15th on Monday. i think. anyway, for those of you (those _many_ of you) who are waiting for the faq and lyrics file, fear not, i have not forgotten you. i have just forsaken you. i don't really have time today to do it, either, so just hang out and i'll send 'em all out on friday once i'm back in town. for now i'm going to head off to richmond, skip 4 classes, two exams, and a verb quiz, just to see dave matthews with rso. once. i'm not as cool as boofy, you see. ^^^^ ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________ yippeyai-okye-a...Z \ stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.eduTop Permalink
Everybody must have enjoyed the show and party because there hasn't been a digest since 2:00 yesterday (63). I'm sure we'll hear about it right away, but I just want to say I had a good Valentine's Day even though I missed the show. Still looking for Chicago Tickets. I have a variety of pure, expensive goodies for anyone who can provide information leading to the reasonable purchase of Chicago 3/17/95 Tickets. I guess numbers for area scalpers would help, dammitman. I'm psyched, Andy's makin' a HiFi VHS of bagby's for me. I WILL mail the tapes today!!! Anybody else want to make one for fun stuff? Want a copy when I get it? I got this cool chunk of silica aerogel, It looks like glass, but weighs NOTHING, I mean it practically floats on air. Density is 0.2 g/cc! TRIP. Thanks, Chas Charlie Hill (Chas) USAF Wright Laboratory, Materials Directorate,WPAFB, OH oooO Oooo hillcs@picard.ml.wpafb.af.mil| W(513)255-3622| GRAPHITIC CARBON ( ) ( ) chill@uceng.uc.edu | H(513)252-5001|The Future Material (_) (_)"Ski backward barefoot, drive an old Lotus.",me| Dave MatthewsTop Permalink
I don't know how many of you are planning to see DMB at roseland (NYC) on the 23 and 24, but let's gather, goddammit! Gathering is what us minaretters do best! oh, and sorry for my ignorance, but is anyone planning on treeing last night (the historic V-Day performance)? I haven't received any reviews yet, but my mind is already starting to imagine...I'm popping a chubby just thinking about it. --adamTop Permalink
some thoughts on the 14th show.. the symphony with dave was incredible.. it gave such a powerful force to the music it was enough to well.. i dunno.. but it was fantastic. songs like warehouse, granny, and dancing nancies shone, and the rest were beautiful as well. the length was unfortunate, but i don't think avoidable.. the symphony could only do so many songs, i'm sure.. dave could've sung more, but hey.. although it looked like he took off early.. after the say goodbye encore (with the nifty carter halloween drum intro), they did their little return to wave, etc, then left again, and the symphony director ran off stage after them, and it looked like all the little symphony people were looking around going 'huh?', then the lights came on.. it was interesting to see mr prompter man just below and to the left of dave making sure dave sang the words right on the beat, so the symphony wouldn't get screwed up.. i wonder how much time it took to transcribe the songs onto the music sheets for all the different symphony instruments? i mean, i would assume no one in daveband actually has the notes written down.. despite some previous complaints, i would say the crowd was great. call it the atmosphere, call it the more expensive tickets, who knows, but compared to the past few shows i've been to, the 'relative' silence during christmas song and even satellite were nice to hear.. how do you really hear silence, anyway? still.. it was good to see old friends and meet new ones.. take care all brett "i'm a walkin' by the water.. come up through my soul to my ankles to my head to my soul again and i'm blown away..." dave 2/14/95 -- you don't have to worry about me i might have been born yesterday but i stayed up all nightTop Permalink
I have an abundance of Dave tapes right now... I am looking for old Pink Floyd. Please, anyone with any nice Floyd tapes, make me some type of deal... I will compensate you with Phish, Dave, Root, REM or Billy Bragg lemme know... -brianTop Permalink
Did anyone tape the show???? I have some goodies that you might like to trade for.....Top Permalink
send to minarets@moose.uvm.edu Did anybody get a tape of last night's concert? Or is anybody going to be taping tonight? I would really like to get a copy from this cool concert. Hope everybody had a good black tuesday. :) SethTop Permalink
how do you really hear silence, anyway? still.. The silence in music is just as important as the noise for the instruments. That's why rests and stuff are notated in musical scores. There was a composer (Glass maybe?) who wrote a piece called 4:15 (or some other such number) that was, you guessed it, four minutes and 15 sec of silence. When he played it for audiences, he would enter the theatre, put a clock or somethin on his piano and sit there until the time was up. Then he would get up bow and exit stage. Of course the piece was controversial, but I guess it forced people to realize just what silence is and how integral it is in music. necessary for a song like Christmas Song or Lover or Satellite. They are rather slow, moody songs. A silent atmosphere is necessary to evoke as much of the emotion as possible from the composition. On the other hand, screaming and craziness is necessary for a song like Halloween. The chaotic screams from Dave add a lot to the song. Hmmm, I think I need coffee, --Morgan (Damn time goes slow when you're at work and you're waiting to get off so you can go drive for 2 & 1/2 hrs to go see DAVE) Hey did Dave dance last night? I love the way that guy dances.Top Permalink
netters- I'm looking to swap what I have from the 2/10 tower show [first 50 min., w/john popper] that is a master copy and would be a 1st gen for you for a good quality copy of the symphony show from either night. get back to me for details. -big head c. -------FORWARD, Original message follows------- -------FORWARD, End of original message-------Top Permalink
Would someone please post a message about how to subscribe to discussion? I'm having a hard time hooking on. Thanks, SarahTop Permalink
Howdy, been listening to DMB for about four years now, collecting boots from my sister and from friends (most of them coming from the UVA scene) and going to shows when time allows, and finally, now that I've gone collegiate, I have easy access to minarets. love to get my hands on the cords/tab for more, so if anyone out there knows, drop me a line. (I'm sorry to say that I don't remember which of you out there posted the comparison between Best of and the Beatles song, but it was high quality, thanks.) shows from '92 to '94, a few Dead shows, and a few Phish shows. I'd really like to get some more of all three of those, some Freddy Jones BAnd (is there any out there?), some Rusted Root (i think they have some clause that prohibits taping, but people can be very resourceful. . .), some Jupiter Coyote, and some Widespread. Anyone interesting in helping me out? Perhaps some trades could be arranged? blended without too much effort, and besides, cant'd you just imagine the final strains of Boyd's fevered M&J jamming closing, Stefan has a little time to play on his own and then the first hollow callings of Leroi's flute stream in. Now look, I've gotten myself all excited. I need to take a cold shower. actually, acording to some of the less friendly people I know, any showr would do, but I crowd behavior. What the hell is the deal with people yelling during Christmas Song?! They did it at the show I was at in D.C. on Dec. 30th, and apparently they did it during the show last night in Richmond. Come on people, CS is one the most beautiful songs DMB plays, and when Dave and Carter get out there alone and do it, it's spectacular. I think some audience members need to remember taht they paid to hear what the band wants to play, and if the guys decide to play Old McDonald for and hour and a half, just leave if you don't like it, but don't start yelling for that favorite song of yours and ruin it for someone else. writing this much my first time (there are many alllusions waitin' to made, but i will refrain) so I will end now. Robert rhofheimer@center.colgate.edu situation, your whole life. it's ahead of you. To plagerize a bit (but not the emotions): Only people who have been waiting in the sidelines, reading but not posting, may smoke in my message. P.S. Who is Jeff Muezzin? Is he some David Koresh-like figure? Is a big (or his cult) just a big joke? Is Kev really Jeff's attempt to feel important? Only time, or perhaps Jeff himself, will tell.Top Permalink
Hey all, involved in a trade with MIAH VAN HECKE from Northwestern University and it is looking like a one sided trade! I sent out his tapes the day after we agreed, first class, and have yet to receive mine. he has not contacted me. I will throw some out to you all. Lexington show. Anyway, we got there pretty early, since I wanted to get up in the front. We made it up to the front and in the center, so only about 2 people were in front of us. The Ugly Americans were pretty cool. BHTM seemed to really drag. I guess if the old saying "time flies when you're having fun" is true, the reverse is also true! After what seemed like an eternity, Dave came on. Unlike any show I have heard (and I have about 70hrs of DMB), They opened with Jimi Thing. It was incredible. The crowd was singing every word though, but I put it out of my mind. After Jimi, they played Jane, Nancies, and Warehouse. After Warehouse, Dave went back to talk to Carter and I waited until it was quiet before yelling "GRANNY!". Dave came back to the mic, and sure enough started up Granny. As my first time hearing it live, I have to say that it was incredible. It was amazing-- I was the only one going crazy. People on both sides seemed to be bored or something. I don't know or care. After Granny, I can't really remember the exact set list order, but he played Rhyme&Reason, Satellite, Recently, #36, Best Of.., Two Step, and Ants. I was extremely happy to hear Two Step. It was the same as during Granny though for every song that wasen't on UTTAD. I loved it though. Compared to the Lexington crowd, this one was great. It was actually nice to have room to dance during the best songs. Anyway, for the encore Dave chose Tripping Billies and used the old intro, which was cool. During the intro, the crowd was standing still and confused looking at me dance to it! It was a great show though in my opinion. After the show a girl we were with got the official set list from the stage, and the other choi ces for encores were Say Goodbye, and Watchtower. I have never heard Watchtower live and believe that would be crazy. But, I was not complaining at that point. Even though the set list was short, it was filled with musical later... Jeff Thompson jthomps34@aol.comTop Permalink
does anyone have a tape copy of last night or tonight's dave show with the orchestra? i would trade [5mkindly[0m for a copy of either of these... the magusTop Permalink
hey now, tine soundboards of DMB. thanx to all who helped me out! right now, i would 11/08/94 Lisner Auditorium, Washington,D.C. w/Rusted Root any HORDE show any and all studio outtakes a copy of the SBD tape that was released of the show w/ Trey Anastasio in VT your cleanest, clearest, crispiest, SBD (complete) DMB show Dave Matthews (solo): 09/11/92 DKE House, Charlottesville,Va SBD 45min ??/??/?? Prism Coffee House, Charlottesville,Va (WTJUben.) FM 45min 11/29/93 JMU, Harrisonburg,Va SBD 45min 12/12/93 Movie Palace, Charlottesville,Va SBD 135min 08/25/94 Birchmere, Alexandria,Va AUD 110min 11/17/92 Trax, Charlottesville,Va SBD 180min 12/31/93 Marriott, Richmond,Va SBD 135min 08/26/94 Marriweather Post Pvillion, Columbia,MD (HORDE) SBD 45min 09/27/94 UVA Amphitheater, Charlottesville,Va AUD 135min 10/09/94 Lupo's, Providence,RI SBD 135min 12/30/94 Bender Arena, Washington,D.C. SBD 180min please send those lists!!! jonathan 1-800-HELP MYSELFTop Permalink
Howdy all! I was just wondering if anyone knew what was going on with the BHT/DMB concert in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. It was listed in the Horde tour file at being at the vets memorial, but it was listed on a concert line in the Quad Cities (Illinois-Iowa area) as only being Big Head Todd and the Ugly Americans. No DMB. Also, no mention of it in the WWW tour file. (Tonite was my first encounter with the WWW and the DMB file in it. Cool stuff, Ben, I enjoyed it). I am hopfully going to be go to the Peoria show (will be my first), if anyone has info about that, too, let me know. Everyone have fun on the 14 and 15. I wish I could be there Thanks. Eric WWTop Permalink
from the Ithaca/south central NY area please. I have no transportation to the show, but I have a ticket. If you can help out please get back to me. I'll definitely help out on all expenses and spin off plenty of tapes. THANKS!!!!! Mike mpowers1@ithaca.eduTop Permalink
to all how do i set my mailing list so i get digests instead of two-hundred thousand individual e-mails? thanks andrewTop Permalink
what was the setlist from last night v-day? i know it's the same as tonight but i'm not going so please send it to me now!Top Permalink
Hey folks, just scan for trades- hopefully some of you remember me :) But I can't hold my tongue about last night. The show at the Carpenter Center was simply amazing. Beforehand I had a hard time visualizing what the show would be like- the only thing I could imagine the symphony doing was Boyd's fiery jump-in after the first verse of "Lie In Our Graves". So when I got my program and saw that JOHN D'EARTH had done the arranging I just got a sort of buzz- my shoulders bunched up and I got sort of tense and I got reeeeeaaalllly excited! Knowing that they had someone who is not only an incredible (and credible) musician but who has also had tons of access to the music do the arrangements, well it kinda legitimized the whole deal for me. It was just great seeing him sitting up front, cueing Dave when to sing and keeping to himself while thirteen year old butts were wiggling all around him. that they were all getting used to being on that stage and playing together. But "GRANNY" BLEW THE ROOF OFF. Period. Maybe it's because it's such a simple song and it gave D'earth more to play with, I dunno, but things happened in that song that I'd never dreamed could happen! And "Warehouse"- OW! Bone-chilling. The drama that was "Help Myself/Dangerous Hours" felt like the overture to "West Side Story" or a detective story or something- wacky and way cool. I am constantly amazed at how into "Ants Marching" all those people get, dancing and singing in unison, and they never realize that Dave is singing about THEM, and he's NOT BEING NICE. (my requisite slap at the little people- insert your favortie here) I'm really glad they played "Lie In Our Graves" (it was the song I was hoping for at the UTTAD premiere amphitheatre show too!) but it left me with the musical equivalent of BLUE BALLS. Remember how I said earlier that Boyd's jump-in was all I could imagine the symphony playing? When Dave started the song I turned to my friend Diana and said "Here it comes! This is going to be great!" AND THE SYMPHONY NEVER CAME IN!!!! Sure they threw some strings on at the end but they didn't play what they were supposed to! You have no idea how much that hurt. I don't think I even heard the entire rest of the song I was so worked up. I had to get drunk when I got home last night just so I could relax. And I'll close this part of my commentary by simply saying "Ladies and Gentlemen- The Boyd Tinsley! bow bow bow". When he started practically squatting on the stage during "Dancing Nancies" I was on fire! And my good friend "Carter Beauford on the drums! Carter Beauford on the drums!" was like a kid in a candy store. How many people did he shake hands with? How many drumsticks went into the crowd? street, and to 9/10s of the people I saw I could say "You poor sap. You've never heard the Dave Matthews Band!" Well after last night I can say it again. And I think Dave was just as amazed as we were, they all were. You could see it in the way that every few minutes someone in the band would turn and smile at someone else in the band, or at D'earth or at George Manahan, the conductor. It had to be a pretty intense feeling, like a proud father or something, that the music THEY WROTE could do THAT. It speaks volumes about the talent of the band and the quality of their songwriting that their songs could scale up from a simple five-man fraternity party jam to this brilliant spiral being played out by a symphony. Let's see Pearl Jam try that. Thank you for indulging me, just had to get that off my chest, P.S. If anybody can get me a copy of the score I'll... well I don'tTop Permalink
Where should I begin? I went to the V-day show hoping to sit back and hear the MUSIC of the Dave Matthews Band scored in some crazy orchestral arrangements. There had been chatter on the net about tunes like Seek Up, Minartets, Blue Water, The Maker, and so on. What I was looking for was to be taken away by an entire symphony with Dave and the boys adding their patented accents. Nope! What I got was a few killer arrangements (Recently, Help Myself (especially the intro). But I also got 700 15 yearolds screaming and running out of their seats obstructing my view of...of, thanks...Ants Marching, Satellite, and Dancing Nancies. Don't get me wrong I love these songs but for $45 and the entire orchestra assembled, I think that they could have picked a cooler set list. Why couldn't they have played really good, old slow stuff. The fans (if they were fans) would have appreciated the music no matter if they knew the words or not. I'm sorry for bumming out so hard but I really had something special in mind for this show and it just didn't measure up. I guess that's how it goes. Mark (mmaloney@acc.roanoke.edu)Top Permalink
you all are way too into this shit-- UNSUBSCRIBE ME PLEASE thanksTop Permalink
whats up everybody- can anyone tell me where to find the label maker program? and what is it called? thanks a lot Tim Hocking x51558h3@usma13.usma.eduTop Permalink
A quick question for anyone who attended the show at the Carpenter Center last work (ugh!), and with rush and today's 'storm' traffic could be bad. I should make it there by 8:00, but I'd like to know if I have any leeway. OPlease e-mail me directly... Thanks, EricTop Permalink
Could I too, please be set up for digest mode. Its getting hard to read my less important mail. Thanks. By the way, how many Detroit, A^2 dave fans are there out here? Appreciatively, DL Fitzgerald to all how do i set my mailing list so i get digests instead of two-hundred thousand individual e-mails? thanks andrewTop Permalink
Hey all, RSO, and it was quite a memorable experience. It was something that no true DMB fan should have missed, but due to limited tickets and other horrible facts of life I know there are a lot of fellow Minaretters who couldn't make it. This is why I feel it is my duty to tree a tape of the show. tree. I first want to make sure that I have the highest quality seed before treeing it. I taped the show with a Sony D-7 DAT deck and Core Sound mics. The tape turned out great by my standards. My seats were dead center in front of the soundboard. The only minor flaw is that the people around me got chatty at a few points in the show. If any tapers out there in Minarets land, used much better equipment, or simply think that you might have a higher quality tape then please let me know. Also, if the show on the 15th has a better setlist, please let me know if you have a comperable quality tape. simply want to be on the tree, just hold on. I will be making an official tree anouncement in a few days. - Bill ************************************************************************* *************************************************************************Top Permalink
say goodbye is a musical orgasm! new copies of two shows from boulder this fall (great little v-day gift!) and the version of say goodbye is soooooo prime! the last version i have besides this one is from august in nantucket. the added flute solo is beautiful! i'm loving this tune more and more everytime i hear it. someone tell me how the symphony version was! i bet you'll never listen to that one the same way ever again! ;)Top Permalink
Desperately seeking a copy of the FEB. 11th show at the TOWER. can anybody help me... please??? jmheckle@rs01.kings.eduTop Permalink
One of my friends told me that in NYC, From Good Homes will be opening for Dave. Is there any truth to this rumor? Is anyone planning on taping the show and in particular From Good Homes, if they are playing? Someone please write back with info and if anyone has any FGH boots, contact me. Thanks. Also, is DMB still on for Letterman and HOB thingy? Anuj A. Shah Boston College shahan@cleo.bc.eduTop Permalink
I have an extra ticket for the Syracuse show on Feb. 20 I'd love to hook somebody up with for the cost of the ticket ($19.50) plus one really really cool tape. The ticket is for the first row balcony. Please reply by email directly to me. And to everyone, whether you need the ticket or not, have a great day. There is a fine line between eye contact and the piercing stare of a madmanTop Permalink
I've just recently(no pun) heard that Dave is Gay. Can someone either confirm or dismiss this rumor for me. Thanks ---Ian---Top Permalink
I know I'm a bit late with this, but I'd like to make a few comments... rushed the stage during Ants, but they weren't really in people's way and I enjoyed watching the domino-like effect the music had on people, as slowly but surely more and more people got up and started dancing. did anyone really expect to sit in total crowd silence for the whole show? old mind you, found it necessary to sing "Love, love, love" during Christmas Song, which Dave was doing in, yes, relative crowd silence from where I was sitting. I wanted to strangle this guy, but instead turned to him and asked, sarcastically, "Do you know the WORDS to this song?" He replied with a prideful "sure" at which point I told him I believed him completely but I would rather hear Dave sing it "for now". please get a tree going... Only dissapointment was no Minarets. Lover and Say Goodbye...On my way out of the show, my date and I found ourselves in front of a man in the act of proposing to his girlfriend, down on one knee, ring in hand, with 25 or so people silently waiting for her answer under the big DMB marquee. She said yes and cried and the crowd gave applause and it was very happy just being there. you were wearing? Satellite 2...much better than last year, but we need to start playing better defense (ie, less Satellites). Enjoy the show tonight whoever is going.... GregTop Permalink
Is anyone going to be taping Dave with the Richmond Symphony??Top Permalink
I also heard some speculation as to Dave's sexual preference, and the best source I have heard is from a friend of a friend of someone in the band (Carter, I think) who said that Dave was bisexual... but I dont know how much truth there is to this..... but I can always hope....I am gay and I think dave is sexy as hell!!! if anyone has a better source, let us know! peace, love, and DAVEband FOREVER, WendalTop Permalink
on another note, From Good Homes has been pushed hard onto the record buying market by RCA. i went to three stores here in D.C. yesterday, and there were at least 10 copies of their reissued debut "Hick Pop". i think that they are a great band, and am happy to see that they are finally getting what they deserve! I also am glad to hear of the success of From Good Homes. However, are they also going to have a video, be on MTV, and end up top forty like Dave. Is RCA bent on popularizing every band I love? It frustrates me that some people I have no respect for are going out and buying these albums for no other reason than the fact that they are becoming popular. I feel like RCA is marketing Dave Mathews image. People seem to pick up on this without really appreciating the music. Does anybody relate or am I failing to put these feelings into words?Top Permalink
the band had an idiosyncratic singer with the presence to lure Pearl Jam and R.E.M. fans. This is exactly what frustrates me. Does anyone feel my pain or am I all alone on this one?Top Permalink
the band had an idiosyncratic singer with the presence to lure Pearl Jam and R.E.M. fans. This is exactly what frustrates me. Does anyone feel my pain or am I all alone on this one? what is so painful? it is a horrible allusion, but your point is what? you don't want pj or rem fans to dig dave? personally, i would rather have fans at thes how who are more familiar with vitalogy than the new ace of bass album..... eek benny just another memo from the cellar, *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* | ben sterling... new york, ny... | | ...friendly neighborhood psychopath... | | ...professional poseur... | | ...five time mr. double dutch usa... | | ...orange tic tac connoisseur... | | | | 'plagiarize the emotion cause it's easier than the real thing' | | ...shannon worrell. | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
the band had an idiosyncratic singer with the presence to lure Pearl Jam and R.E.M. fans. This is exactly what frustrates me. Does anyone feel my pain or am I all alone on this one? voice...then, out of nowhere, someone STAGEDIVES from the rafters! yeah! a huge mosh pit to lover lay down! Yeah! rock! sorry...once i go into character, it's kinda hard to get back out... bands, but how do you compare dave with eddie vedder? let's see, Blood vs Christmas song...i can kinda hear the mike stipe thing, but please! let dave be dave, and dave alone!Top Permalink
My buddy Ryan and I are getting a copy of the valentines show this coming weekend, so anyone on wake's campus, or anyone interested, I'd be willing to make copies (next week) of the first 4 people that email me! I've heard nothing but incredible things (except for the random screamers during ants) about the show from friends who attended...this virginian wished she'd been there. that's all for now....back to biology hell. Later on, my friends...CarrieTop Permalink
but I can always hope....I am gay and I think dave is sexy as hell!!! if anyone has a better source, let us know! Why the hell are you telling me your sexual preference? I should care because . . . ? Keep your personal crap to yourself! To end this damn debate, at the Symphony last night he was talking about it being Valentines Day and he said HER when talking about not getting HER a gift. So if that helps good, if you need more, a few post back someone said they saw Dave with his GIRLFRIEND after the show. So hopefully that helps you crusaders. Stefan told a friend of mine, while I was there, that Dave told people in Charlottesville that he and Stefan were gay just to screw people up. So see ya and does it really matter? Scott Miller- Virginia Tech 529 Shanks Hall Blacksburg, VA 24060 sctm@vt.edu "Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"Top Permalink
Ok, I just wrote a real detailed account of my take on the V-day show, but my fuckin' computer cut me off right as I was finishing!!!!!I'm not writing it version!!!! blocking my view...if they're going to dance and (gasp) _clap_, at least do it in _rythem with the song_!!!! It was nice to meet y'all at 3rd St., it was a fun time. I'm glad to see that people got copies of the show!!! My ass is gettin' on one of those trees!!!!! While most of you were groovin' to Catfish down at the Floodzone, I spent my post-DMB evening in the emergency room. While waiting for me grub at 3rd st. I suddenly got dizzy as hell, tried to go outside but fell down the last few steps, sumbled to the door and collapsed on the sidewalk. So needless to say I have a few reasons not to forget Valentines Day 1995!! Oh, and I wasn't drinking!!!! I was supposed to get two free tickets to the show tonight, but I was at practice when the call came and he left when I got back!!! Accckkkkk!!!!! I'm going to sulk.... "We're sellin' crap in the back. we got crap" I'm bummed, I'm not even going to smoke in my message.Top Permalink
Check out what he says about he Dave Matthews Band, Coolness, Groovy Beaness!!! Getting Back to Their Roots By Nevin Martell and Josh Nicotra As a child Rusted Root's drummer Jim Donovan danced to his mother's Sly and the Family Stone records. Today thousands of people are dancing to Rusted Root's 'primal, aggressive body-moving' music. After five years together and the independent release of their first album Cruel Sun they were signed by Mercury records. They were signed mostly because of their incredible live show and dedicated cult-following that has grown from the confines of Pittsburgh to spread across the country. Having just released their major label debut, When I Woke, the band are in high spirits. Their first single "Send Me On My Way" is being played by everyone from aging hippies to alternative rock radio DJs. They have been touring for it constantly since this fall, including a sold-out show at Poughkeepsie's own Chance. Starting later this month they are going to go out with the Spin Doctors on a month long trek. And they've submitted a video to MTV, let's hope it doesn't do to them what "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong" did to the Spin Doctors. We had a chance to talk to Jim Donovan while he was in San Jose, California about life on the road, bootlegging, success and the Indigo Girls. Misc- So you guys are about to go out on the road with the Spin Doctors; are you excited about that? when you get to hook up with a band whose been through all of this before. You get to learn a lot of stuff, I mean these guys have been touring in a pretty big way. Doctors did? They got so big so fast. together for five years. For us the really good thing about it is that our album has been out since August and we have been selling it really steadily, there hasn't been a big explosion anywhere. What our concept is to go out and play live and get a base of people that have already seen you. They know that it is real, not a TV fabrication. I think our strength is our live performance. It's really reactive. When people see it, they want to get the record. how do you feel about taping and trading? people who want to tape, as long as their not selling it bootleg, I think that's the coolest thing. There are lots of tape trees going around with some our largest shows. That helps us more than anything-spreads the word. The concept is to get the music out there to everybody, not to make a million bucks. If it was, I wouldn't be here. your band to be? pretty hard right now. I would like to see us as high up as you can go. That's not only in a fame sense, but also in a spiritual sense. I want everyone that needs to hear the music to have access to it and have a really good time doing it. Pittsburgh on New Years Eve. What's it like to play in front of thousands more people than you used to? energy shift that happens when you have 6000 people that you know love you and are screaming and having an amazing time, it's a rush. There is an element of chaos to it, because there is not a whole lot of control. The crowd can do whatever they want, they are the mass, the majority, and when they are on your side they can lift you to amazing places. Everywhere] tour, do you plan on going out with the H.O.R.D.E. again? certain. I think we are going to go out with the Black Crowes. I haven't seen them, but I like their stuff a lot. friends that it wouldn't be fair to name them all, you wouldn't have enough paper. loved Sly and the Family Stone. It's kind of funny, up until a couple of years ago, I hadn't heard him on the radio or had any of his music for a long time. When I heard some of his music again, it kinda took me way back to being an infant because she would play it every day. So I went out and got the stuff and its incredible music. That's the first thing my family ever saw me dance to, so I would imagine that it had to be an influence. that you've really had a good time on the road with? Any musicians you've enjoyed jamming with on-stage? exceptional human, always smiling always has good things to say about everybody. A very good example of what a person can become. going to be on the road with him? got. They've been hitting it really hard. They've been touring non-stop and it can only do good things for us, because people lump us in the same genre as them. Big Head Todd and those guys, we've got the same audience that goes to them. For them to have a Buzz Clip opens up the doors to have the same sort of thing happen to us. It's already happened on a radio level, there's a format called Triple A that we've been in the Top 20 for nine monthes. we're concentrating on the live show and the album. I know personally people are writing all the time. I know personally I write all the time. material there is. re-release Cruel Sun [the first independently released album]? creatively one iota. They've been very supportive of us financially, they've helped us stay on the road, which is a very expensive thing. The record label helps us foot the deficit, because they know that if you're out and people see you, then they're going to go buy the record and they're going to get their money back. don't have any radio play in either of those places. It's just a big word of mouth from the papers, people on the Internet sending good word to everybody. don't have a concept of what it means, the only thing I know is that sometimes we get printouts, people bring us them to show what people are saying. It's just so weird to hear people talking about you in such a personal way. It's almost like an invasion of your privacy, but it's not really, because people really don't know what your private lives. They really don't have a clue, they can just speculate. And speculation isn't going to hurt us. personally? the band, because they are. As they should be. It's really no one's business if someone has a girlfriend or not. It's about the music. Although, when you choose an occupation like this you do sacrifice some of your privacy. you take stress out on? things like reading. I try not to watch TV ever, that's a really huge trap to fall into. I write letters, talk on the phone. I just got engaged a couple of months ago. you're on the road you're busy doing things like this. Interviews, sound check and what have you. A lot of times we'll get to be in a really nice town and get to check it out. their guitars. I was never into them before, but my fiancee is, I got tickets and we went. It was splendid, they were just so comfortable with themselves and being in front of a whole bunch of people, they made you feel real comfortable. your wits are about you can use it anyway you choose. And that's what we're doing, we're using it for the music, because the music is the bottom line. on the eighth of March. It was great talking to you. Thanks a lot. to everyone up that way for us. See ya. Scott Miller- Virginia Tech 529 Shanks Hall Blacksburg, VA 24060 sctm@vt.edu "Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"Top Permalink
If it doesn't matter ..... Then why do you write this .... Keep your personal crap to yourself!Top Permalink
Rick and others- you but only had your old email address. I just got my shipment of blanks from Terrapin and shit will be sent out soon....... 1)rick- you'll get your tapes by saturday (12.31.93/1/,11.9.94(2), and the otherI still have to look it up) 2)Andy Goldberg- your Floodzone and Trinity for my Horse Center and Irving Plaza 12.10 3)Mac Dave - I owe you 1.29.94(2) and UVA..... 4)Greg- 2 CC tapes for my 1.29 and 7.28.94 if i owe you tapes, besides these 4, email me. I always (although i am a little slow sometimes) follow up on my trades. Please show some patience with me and the other traders on the net. Rick, if you don't get your tapes by Sat or anyone else on my list (with the exception ofa few newbies that I'll be a little longer with) doesn't get them by the following Saturday....feel free to flame me on the net, but if you can, ask me about the tapes b4 you post that I am a bad trader to everyone.Top Permalink
If it doesn't matter ..... Then why do you write this .... Keep your personal crap to yourself! it's not something people want to hear. I mean, the teenage girls who scream "i love you dave" get flamed on this net...Top Permalink
! ! Hey. ! ! In regards to your groovin (sorry about earlier poor spelling) bagby ! offer (if it hasn't been met by another Carolinian), the club near Ziggys ! that burned down was Baity's, unless you meant Penelope's which also ! burned, but isn't close to Ziggys. Oh my, someone got it, and got it on the button, spelling and everything... We really have a trivia buff on the net....It warms my heart... So minarets, the offer is now closed, but I'll be back with another offer soon... ! Say, about your "Dave in Baker Sports" idea, think Terry Holland would ! wear flannel or a tux? Hey, this is great, she even knows basketball heroes... Yeah, if you're trying to figure out where this is coming from, it's from an old venerable minarets about 20 or so digest ago... Where I referred to the Tonight's Bagby of the Week trivia question is....that one.... ! ! If you're ever by the econ department, say Hi to my dad. Gee, Doc Appleyard taught me Eco 101 [ don't tell him but I burned my notes after the class was over. [ I later took micro and am close to double majoring in econ and math...]] ! ! Go Wildcats. DITTO, see you at the big dance, so we hope.... Peace, and watch for more cool newbie offers...Will ! ! ______________________________________________________________________ ! ! Karen E. Appleyard University of Pennsylvania ! School of Social Work ! ! appleyrd@dolphin.upenn.edu I am who I am who I am ! Well, who am I? DMB ! ! ______________________________________________________________________ ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
Hey folks. Thanks for all that responded...sorry I can't help you all, but I'm sure some tree or fellow friend will...my four folks are Y'all should have messages from me separately by now..keep in touch about it....later on, my friends..Carrie ***IF YOU GET A CHANCE, EVERYONE SHOULD CHECK OUT THIS "ABB" GUY FROM UPENN - HE'S GOT MORE BOOTLEGS THAN JEFF BAGBY, I'D BET..(not all Dave, though)*******Top Permalink
You've got to be kidding me? Well... I guess you have obviously never been to after show parties... I have not either, but a friend of mine went to see Dave and after the show he came out onto the streets and there was Dave chatting with a FOX of a girl... he got to shake his hand and say hi... All Dave wanted was to get them outta there so he could hook up! Gay... yeah right...Top Permalink
Dave on the Billboard Charts... this week 90 eek! broke 100 again! last week 107 2 weeks ago 107 weeks on chart 17 DaveTop Permalink
world is full of ups and downs. Tiesday i have no ticket to the RSO show, Wednesday I have one, Thursday I can't go due to transportation problems. Oh well, roll with the punches I guess. Right? Jeff--- looks like you're becoming a little bit of a cult leader, granted no one knows who the hell you are. Kev is starting to make you famous. Too bad you have so much work to do but 4th year at UVA does that to people. You should try to come up on Saturday, should be fun....'nuff said. And yes, sorry but I just got to say this. I don't think you should all be getting worked up that Dave is selling albums and becoming popular. One of the main reasons that bands become popular is because they make good music. No one buys music if it is bad. People are jsut becoming aware of what you and I have known for a long time now....DMB is a damn good band and worthy of every bit of praise they get. So what if teens are jumping up and down at the shows and having a good time. If they like the music, let them be. How would you like it if someone told you you couldn't listen to a particualr band because you didn't know about them when they were first starting out. I would be a little pissed off. Everybody has different tastes in music and DMB appeals to large range of listeners. Let them listen and enjoy DMB knowing that you were able to see him play "back int the days of the $1 shows" and be happy. Sorry, I just had to say it. With that I will bid you all farewell. In the semi-words of the Milkman (sorry Kev), "Hey everybody, get up on the train. We're goin' on a ride to justice But we'll never make it, never see that day. Things won't ever be that way" TugTop Permalink
LISTEN YOU GUYS. DAVE IS NOT GAY. I'M IN A FRATERNITY DOWN HERE AT ROLLINS COLLEGE AND OUR SWEETHEART'S BEST FRIEND DATES OL' DAVE. KATHY, OUR SWEETHEART, HAS BEEN TO NUMEROUS SHOWS AND HAS HUNG OUT WITH THE BAND MANY TIMES. SO, LET'S CLEAR UP THIS NASTY RUMOR ASAP! DAVE ISN'T GAY.Top Permalink
I've just recently(no pun) heard that Dave is Gay. Can someone either confirm or dismiss this rumor for me. Thanks ---Ian--- WHO CARES? man, this is nobody's business, it's no one's concern, it's irrelevant and it's rude to ask. why does this piece of trivia need to be supported or refuted? why does it matter? why are you so caught up with what a person choses to do in their bedroom? is it going to change your impression of the music now, depending on what dave's private life is like? eeks, these things just REALLY get to me... carlyTop Permalink
Howdy Howdy, around 2 years, and although I'm in Virginia (William and Maryt), I'd never seen a Dave show until last night. The 3 times last year when they played W+M I had to lead camping trips and I couldn't get out of it, and I had 2 tests the day after Lexington last fall. Anyway, I came in with huge expectations. learn so much music but when Dave said at the beginning of "Say Goodbye" they were gonna play one more tune with the symphony, I assumed they'd kick the symphony out after that and play for another hour. I saw Bob Dylan last fall and even he played for 1.5 hrs. a very non-positive karma situation.... it was with the symphony, but except during a couple tunes, my feet weren't tapping that much. Mellow's good, but not for a whole show. Then again, I'm not much of a symphony fan..... reminded of this one album I've heard that is muzac covers of Grunge tunes, "Recently" just didn't work. "Pay For What You Get" was just horrible. I could've heard that version in an elevator and not recognized it. If DMB is ever turned into Muzac, "Pay For What You Get" is what it's going to sound like. white-boy imitation of Snoop Doggy Dog during Satellite. At first it was funny but then it got annoying but I got rid of them. And the people in the upper left hand corner screaming during most of the show. him wandering out on stage with everyone else about 2 seconds later? I'm sure he didn't plan it that way, it just struck me as funny. silent. Worth the $22 alone. in Our Graves. considering the complaints that there hasn't had enough body in the tune since Peter left. I also was hoping they'd play "All Along the Watchtower" with the symphony, that would've been incredible. And I wanted the "Maker" and "Cry Freedom" Wah! did. I just wanted to see more energy, more of the tunes I wanted to hear, and more than 1.5 hrs. I guess I'll have to go see them again and again and again.... it'll be out. Anyone else with '91-92 boots, send me your list and I'll send you mine. I've got 70 hrs of assorted, mostly low-gen stuff.Top Permalink
There are rumors flying around here at Duke that Dave will be performing here on April 7 for our annual Springfest concert. Can anyone confirm or deny these rumors for me? Ivan SnyderTop Permalink
We are looking for a drummer to play original music. We have been playing for about six months, off and on, and we will be regrouping this summer (mid-May to late-August). Influences include jazz, Phish, DMB, Dead, Sting, Liberace, Zappa, basically anyone who just jams. We like to play, just set-up and play a whole day if we can, tape some of it, chill and listen to it. The band make-up is guitar, piano, and bass, and singing is fun. Our current drummer will not be around this summer, and he's not too serious about playing as it is, so we're looking for someone who'd like to make this a long term thing. We hope to get some gigs at places in Westchester and possibly the City this summer. We need someone with experience, excited to just play, ready to get serious. If we can find him, and he's willing to help, maybe we can hire, the drummer. Sorry. If you're interested and able, please let me know as soon as you can. Thanks, Russ. rmg@acpub.duke.eduTop Permalink
On my way home from Sweet Briar tonight I had a revelation. What's missing from Dave. He hasn't sold out....he maybe playin "flat" these days but that's not the problem his music has lost it's passion I consider myself a very passionate person if i like sumpthin' I love it with all my heart... if I dislike sumpthin' , I hate it with everything I have A good groove is like a good wave in surfing You can catch part of it, but you won't necessarilly get a good ride but if you catch that good wave, and you get that good ride, the wave will carry you with it's power, all you have to do is enjoy it. a good groove will carry you through a show with it's power, and you won't have to do anything to sustain it...it should leave you buzzin' for many an hour afterwards too. Dave just doesn't do this for me anymore. Used to be that a Seek Up would leave me close to tears Halloween would lose me in it's madness Tripping Billies would leave me with a smile from ear to ear but no longer... I realized this while listening to Janis in my car... ...her passion, her power I'm always seeking passion and emotion...but it just doesn't exist anymore, or at least not in the majority of music. Edie had promise but didn't fill out Cat Stevens had it, but he liost it with age R.E.M pissed it away for popularity, but you wont hear them say it. I can't express it, it cannot be grasped by those without the passion I have. It's not something you can hear, or detect by ear or eye, it has to be felt.. and I just don't feel it anymore. This explains why I love my old Bagby's more than my new shiney 1st & 2nd gen ones. The quality of the performances has gottenn better...the band has gotten tighter, but they just don't draw the emotion anymore. I had it at V-day, but I lost it into the show. There are no more Janis' left in the world... No Dave quote tonight, it just doesn't seem right. As always, I'll be smokin too much in my messages tonight.Top Permalink
On Thu, 16 Feb 1995, shaft wrote On my way home from Sweet Briar tonight I had a revelation. What's missing from Dave. He hasn't sold out....he maybe playin "flat" these days but that's not the problem his music has lost it's passion I consider myself a very passionate person if i like sumpthin' I love it with all my heart... if I dislike sumpthin' , I hate it with everything I have A good groove is like a good wave in surfing You can catch part of it, but you won't necessarilly get a good ride but if you catch that good wave, and you get that good ride, the wave will carry you with it's power, all you have to do is enjoy it. a good groove will carry you through a show with it's power, and you won't have to do anything to sustain it...it should leave you buzzin' for many an hour afterwards too. This explains why I love my old Bagby's more than my new shiney 1st & 2nd gen ones. The quality of the performances has gottenn better...the band has gotten tighter, but they just don't draw the emotion anymore. I had it at V-day, but I lost it into the show. There are no more Janis' left in the world... followin' the cult of Jeff, No Dave quote tonight, it just doesn't seem right. As always, I'll be smokin too much in my messages tonight. What a sad message... your MESSAGE brought me close to tears tracyTop Permalink
SO, LET'S CLEAR UP THIS NASTY RUMOR ASAP! DAVE ISN'T GAY. Well, I say, even if he was gay (and I haven't been to any after show parties to find out), would there be anything wrong with that? Everyone seems to be trying to protect Dave. Stop trying to protect him! There's nothing wrong with being gay! MattTop Permalink
So, ever had a hangover for 2 days?? Damn, I didn't know I could drink that much and live. Oh yeah, what am I talking about..... I saw Shannon Worrell out here in Colorado on what is her first tour ever. I must say I was pretty impressed. Definitely a folksy person. Got a good sense o' the humor too. Likes to chat lots while on stage. At least these are things I think I remember. I went up to see her at the Fox Monday night. Silly me, I gotta remember to stay away from places that will serve me alcohol 'til I'm deceased. I enjoyed her short but sweet set. She couldn't play too long. Disco Inferno started at 11PM. Anyway, I talked with her a bit after the show. Asked her various obscure questions, half of which I can't remember. She says she owes a lot to Dave, 'cause if it weren't for his support, she wouldn't have the guts to do what she does. I also asked her about computers and nets and such, she thinks it's pretty cool, and says she needs to get online one of these days. I told her I'd post to the Minaretters that she says "HI!" I hope I didn't do what I tend to do when I mix booze and speech, and make a complete fool outta me-self. She's playing again Thurs. night in Boulder. I told her I'd try to show up, but now the work situation is looking like it'll screw up those plans. I asked her if it was cool with her if I were to tape the show that night, and she said that it would be kinda neat. She told me if I had any problems trying to tape, to get her right away and she'd clear it up. I thought that was really nice!! Hmmm, anything else.....real cloudy thinkin' back. I'm surprised I made it back to my friends place to crash for the night. Ever wake up in the morning and not remember where you went to bed the night before?? I have now. So, since it appears that I can't remember anything else about the night's activities, I'll just shut the hell up. If any of you see me with a beer in my hand, please, please, take it away. j-Top Permalink
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I just have to say it, once at least. The band or the Symphony did not allow taping at the shows. People got tapes with Stealth setups. This sounds a lot like Bootlegging to me. I think the band or symphony had reasons for not allowing us to tape the show, we don't have the "right" to tape, just a great "priveledge" I can't see the band, managment, or symphony being very happy at netters or tapers or fans ignoring their wishes and taping this show. And spreading it around with trades only makes it worse. Enough preaching here, just had to speak my mind. Hope the tapes came out well in case we get word it was cool 8-) Peace & Out... Japhy Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.Top Permalink
I'm going to try to remember all the stuff I wanted to say so I can just post one message. But it's early in the a.m. and I probably will forget something. Anyway, here's a few thoughts on random subjects. First, if anyone is in Binghamton or Wilke-Barre/Scranton and they are planning on seeing the Syracuse show, Mike Powers (who is a very nice person) needs a ride from Ithaca. It's pretty much on the way to Syracuse and he'd really appreciate it. Mike, maybe a little incentive (tapes, gas money or beer) would help intice someone in your direction. Mike's email is MPOWERS1@ithaca.edu. Yes, the list is getting incredibly huge and the digests are becoming cumbersome. I too, went away for 3 days and came back to 7 or 8 digests, all way too long for me to read with all the other work related mail I have. Eric is right in saying that no one can prevent a call for discussion to propose a newsgroup but it takes more than just 300 votes. There is some ratio of yes to no votes which decides if a group passes. At this point in time, if a digest could continue without the newsgroup being funneled into it, I would vote yes to a group and stay on the digest in hopes that the 'important' stuff (to me) would still get posted and all the peripheral stuff would migrate to the newsgroup. The list usually does die down considerably in the summer-heck, there are even posts like 'am I still on the list, it's been so quiet' during that time. But I am still of the opinion that making a group for DMB would only intensify the problems we see now (spamming, flaming, unrelated discourse) and not really solve anything. I definitely don't have time to read a newsgroup and there is no way to set up kill files to weed out things, nor will just checking the subjects insure that I'd get to read the stuff that want to see. And the magus did some really cool stuff on his last post which was neat to see-least on my system. He asks for a copy of last night's show. Is it possible to tree one of these shows? klongTop Permalink
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O.K., this is meant as a serious question, and is not intended to be simply take it that the rest of the country is catching up to your superb musical tastes, and not as someone trying to take away "your band"? Just because some of us, who admittedly are newcomers to the Dave Matthews experience, want to see him play live, and only have access to such a show by going to see him with this "Big Head" group that many of you seem to dislike (I think they're great, and don't care what anyone says), does this mean that we fall into the category of all those mindless "fans" who only go to hear the song from MTV? and popular success, and still remained true to their vision. Look at the Beatles, can't get much more popular than that. For more current examples, what about Peter Gabriel, REM (i have to disagree with shaft on this one), the Replacements (never really became too popualar, and mellowed quite a bit, but still rocked), and I'm sure there are many others that should be named, but its early in the morning as I write this, and can't think of anymore. should matter how popular DMB becomes. To paraphrase someone's comment bands to come along in a long time. I love their music (isn't that what's most important anyway?), and I think anyone who likes good music should be able to enjoy Dave's. If this means picking up a few people who like it for some other reason, so be it. Thanks for listening, ChrisTop Permalink
alt.music.bootlegs as a source of discussion for trading Dave Boots... I tried to find it and it doesn't exist... does anyone know of any other newsgroups that might handle the same topic? Not just about Dave, but about all Boots? -AndrewTop Permalink
I think our buddy victor wandres had a little too much to drink......Top Permalink
Same set list except for the encore. Instead of Say Goodbye, Dave & Co did #36 without symphonic backing. Absolutely incredible. I was somewhat disappointed they did the exact same setlist, but it was a beautiful show. The symphony just adds an incredible amount of depth and texture to the music. The layers of sound from the strings were so thick you could almost touch the music as it passed through the air. Dude, check out the clouds. Help Myself became very scary with the double upright basses. Christmas Song was great to see in a much more quiet atmosphere than your typical DMB concert. Carter gave us a great intro into #36. Real rocking, drum stick breaking drum intro. Sticks were flying everywhere. The venue was way cool. Neat classic Greek architexture. The ceiling had pinpoint lights on it to look like stars. And, somehow, they use spotlights or something to make it look like clouds are blowing across the ceiling. A really cool effect. If sometime during the show you didn't sit back-look up-and let the music absorb you, then you missed a big part of the evening. Kinda dissapointed that Dave didn't dance. They forced him (?) to remain sitting. All he could do is shake his one leg around. I have the feeling he wanted to be up there bopping around like at any other concert. Of course, no one could stop Boyd from stomping around a bit. I can't help but brag a little --I did get to go backstage. (Thanks Dominic!) I met Dave and probably said something pretty inane, but he was nice. Then we went upstairs and met Stefan quickly. He seemed shy but friendly. Then met Carter. He was really cool. Dominic mentioned we were from Minarets and he was thanking us for being such a big part of the scene! He expressed some concern about the guy selling bootlegs. We told him the guy apologized and he was relieved. Dominic asked if copies of the show would be around. Carter said that he was certain that copies would be available to the band. He might have insinuated that copies would make their way into the public eventually, but he was rather vague. I got the idea that it wouldn't be a big deal if people traded this show. Carter also mentioned how great it was to work with the symphony and how great it was to have such devoted fans. What a great guy. We had every intention of just thanking him for a great show, but he wound up thanking us and making it seem like we had done a great favor for him. Cool. Oh yeah, I asked Dave if he was wearing bowling shoes. He said no, but he really likes bowling shoes, but he never had the guts to take them. He said something about always finding the most comfortable shoes at bowling alleys. Neat. Ok, did I cover everything I wanted to? I think so. Oh yeah, while in the hall, I passed a couple of older ladies who said something to the effect of, "This is the greastest fund raiser we've ever had." Hee, hee. Maybe Dave & Co will be invited back. Later, --MorganTop Permalink
All I have to say about that one (if you missed it, he's pretty pissed) is enough said...CarrieTop Permalink
If the person who wrote FUCK DAVE MATTHEWS has come back down from the clouds, lets talk about something. Obviously you have no idea how business works. This convention you are talking about is not the same as the little shows that dave has been putting on for years. He has attained his goal, to make it big and become popular. You see, that show may be full of execs, but you have to remember, its probably an arena for him to show off his talent. That show is not meant for everyone out there too see, its a showcase for the dave matthews band to the corporate big boys. What do you think Dave is going to do now, stop and go back to Cville. After working this long and hard to attain his goal. NO. Hes going to show the people of the music world that he is all that people say he is. Its not called SELLING OUT, its called passing his music along to another generation of people and an expanded audience of the world, not charlottesville,richmond, and lexington. Also, to you people who talk about the kids screaming and yelling during the concert, why dont you go to the shows with dmb etiquette flyers or something like that to explain how things work. I guarantee that wont work though. Thats just the way it will be, because the new generation of dmb fans will be them. They simply dont understand that you people are the one and only authority on how dmb concerts should be. Why dont you just let it go. Dave will now get those screams from little girls and dancing in unison because he is really famous now. Really famous people get those responses. Have you ever seen a concert, a bigtime one at least, without this type of stuff. Let it go and let the kids have fun, thats what dmb is all about anyway, right? GavbaccaTop Permalink
I'm going to the feb 23 show and on my tic it says that Big Head Todd and the Monsters are opening. Anyone else going?Top Permalink
Since I have not seen any info on the show I give my (short) review... out a bunch of the glitches (off-timing, etc. from what I heard from other people). They played a kick-ass Warehouse, Dancing Nancies, Lie in our graves, etc...(much like what other people said from the night before). BUT- the highlight- what made my night- the encore was #36!!! I couldn't believe it- it was great. They came back on for the encore and everyone was standing up and clapping and all excited and Dave said something like "This is a song that WE really like" and started playing it...everyone continued to clap and yell, etc. but when the song really started they looked really confused like "what the hell is this?" Ha, Ha! Go Dave- way to separate the men from the boys (or the women from the girls =) And who said that they've sold out and only play what "the crowd" wants to hear?? I must disagree. bad as the night before. Almost the whole crowd stood and danced during Ants (WHY?) and some people stood up during Dancing Nancies...and everyone pretty much stood for the encore (me included but that was really because we were giving them a standing ovation and then they came back on- I did NOT stand during Ants Marching and Dancing Nancies!)...people were yelling YEAH DAVE! during Christmas Song which really pissed me off....Oh well. I know that this all sounds bad, but for the rest of the show people were pretty respectful and there weren't people trying to get up front, etc or crowd the aisles. It was nice to see them and not have to fight people to get to a place where you could see the band...I'm beginning to like reserved seating (I never thought that I would say that.) It was in all respects an amazing experience and I feel sorry for all those who missed it. That's all that I have to say. Please excuse and misspellings or facts that are wrong... ps- It was really neat to watch some of the old couples that were there (I'm guessing) because they have season tickets to the symphony or something and see them actually get really into the music and smile and bob their heads...I love stuff like that!Top Permalink
First of all, this "dave is gay" crap. this is NONE of our business. we are here to discuss music, not to talk about someone's private life. we should not be talking about dave's sexual preference out of respect for his privacy, and yet we should not not be talking about it out of our own fear-driven homophobia. i have no idea what dave's sexual preference is and consider it none of my business, but some of the ignorant bullshit i've seen posted here really needed responding too. I can't believe that people actually have posted on here saying that we shouldn't talk about dave's preference, because of what that preference may be. wake up people, it is 1995, and homophobia will not be tolerated. how can you listen to dave's music, which is filled with messages of peace, love, tolerance, and understanding, and yet post this crap? have you killed one too many a brain cell? let's stop this discussion now, but for the right reasons. shows of yesteryear, but to me there seems a marked difference in attitude between R2T and UTTAD. they are both great albums - i appreciate the live, honest feel of R2T just as much as the production quality of UTTAD (although i'll admit i listen to the former much more). yet, it seems to me that R2T, lyrically and also musically, presents a certain view of the world in songs like seek up, (which has some of the most brilliant lyrics i've ever heard from anyone - think about what a compassionate society we could have if every politician listened to seek up and "got" it) billies, christmas song, and one sweet world. this, folks, is REAL family values. UTTAD, however, though it still is dave and represents him, and has similar songs like ants, warehouse, lover, etc. just seems to be on a different plane, with a much darker world-weary feel. anyone else feel this way? next, ROSELAND! (i'll be honest here - my first dave(let's chalk this up to a series of events of great stupidity and ignorance of dave's music), except for a bt set break a few years ago - i'm soooooo psyched) nyc people (and anyone traveling?) where are we going to gather? roseland area? upper west side? columbia? i have many suggestions, i don't know if we want to do this privately, or discuss it on here, but let's discuss. oh yeah, and marianne, tony, ben - does anyone feel particuarly generous and want to hook me up with some stuff this week so i can hear stuff like #36 or granny b4 the show? that would be tres kewl. and finally (secret hidden grovel) - anyone want to spin me an RSO show? i would be deeply indebted, and could provide in return something from my small but growing phish collection (or my sole dave show - w/ tim at wetlands - thanks again dash!) sorry for all of that venting, but i had much that needed to be said, and it's hard to reply individually when digestified. pppps, y'all ****************************** ben gardner bdg11@columbia.edu ceci n'est pas un .sig file ******************************Top Permalink
To all of the HOMOPHOBES freaking out about Dave being gay...First of all, this discourse is ridiculous. But if it must be addressed. It is commonly known (or at least frequently rumored) in Charlottesville that Dave is BISEXUAL. We all know he has had w women but supposedly his likes the boys as well. Who cares, I mean really, this is so fifth grade.Top Permalink
whoa...i have never sat in front of this computer feeling so downtrodden... got back last night from my lovely lovely dave vaction in richmond... feeling joyous and rested after dressing up... curling my hair... meeting all sorts of new (but not really new) and interesting people... coming away rich with new bagbys and having shared a special show. and now i have just finished reading 137 sad and scary posts........... when the strongest thread on this net is people shouting about who dave sleeps with.... and there's more usenet bickering..... and rusty's dissappointed in the symphony show... andvictor says fuck the whole band for selling out....... and kevin (who's such a nice guy :) ) doesn't feel the passion anymore....... i'm suddenly very blue. and so i think i'll just stop reading for now.... and think about the way this band still (despite their obvious weariness) has the power to punch a hole right through me sometimes. and i'll wait for them to take the break that they need..... and when they write new stuff or bring back the old... i'll be there and be excited with them and for them. i'd rather wait in anticipation than frustration.... bethTop Permalink
in the /pub/gdead/ibm/ dir is the most recent copy of WinTaper.... "wtaper10.exe"Top Permalink
Hey all! the prodigy who started up the AWARE cd's. If you think that there is potential for a discussion group that focuses on the bands involved in that, please post and let me know. There seems to be a lot of overlap, like Shannon Worrell, Jackopierce, From Good Homes, etc... or is it better that way? Also, if you are interested in getting these cd's, or the cd of one of the particular artists, let me know; even in Chicago it is difficult to find Shannon. Thanks all...Top Permalink
shit......i left on mon for richmond and i come back and have 319 new messages...... ahhhhhhhh oh well, if you sent one of 'em then i'll get back to ya the show was fun but chillin at the floodzone with what.....about 25 people, watching catfish for free, then going to 3rd st. with boofy and clare and catfish and whoever else ....i guess it's the little surprises that make 13 hour trips funfunfun oh well.......i have A LOT of reading messages and shit to do....so....... i'll do it alll soon.....but dont be surprised if i'm a littl slow responding...... keithTop Permalink
can someone help me to organize all of these dmb messages into some digest form so my e-mail is not such a mess. i didn't wear flannel to the rso show on tuesday, greg. "Celebrate we will." - daveTop Permalink
Excuse all of my posts...I usually never post, but I'M BEGGING YOU ALL My Richmond Symphony is CLOSED! I'm not going to give special preference for any amount of pleading or bribes or "favors" - (i got some strange ones...). I've written most everyone back that's asked me, and, well, I'm about to punch a hole in the screen - I'm not angry, just extremely tired. (an 8am biology lab will do that to most folks. i got shafted at registration) SO, eager folks, wait around for a tree to be proposed...I'm sure the RSO show will spread like Country Crock. good luck to all of you. sincerely. Time to catch some intense ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ's. CarrieTop Permalink
I was wondering if anyone knows where the Freddy Jones Band is playing now. And if they will be in Athens GA anytime soon or even anywhere in the Georgia area? Now my thaughts on the Dave being gay issue.(hey everyone else has had their turn.) personally I agree that everyone should keep their private crap to themselves. and I could careless if Dave is gay, but(and i know i'm gonna get tourched for this one, but hey its the truth) being gay is very WRONG! rEplies aare welcome.(especially abou FJB) later,Top Permalink
One question, Where have you been? one comment, who cares... -patrickTop Permalink
Watch what you say--you might just be wrong. I know several people from the radio station here who are going to see Dave, only because they're going to work at the booths for an hour or so at the convention. NOT ONE of them is a radio exec or anything like that. I think that a lot of people who might not otherwise get exposed are getting a chance to see Dave. I wish I could have gone, but I have conflicting plans. I'm betting you won't see too many people with ties and coats there, though. I do agree, though, RCA buying most of the tickets is kinda shitty. -w THAT'S RIGHT ---- FUCK THE WHOLE ENTIRE BAND....... the reason why i can't get tickets to a band that sets my soul on fire is not because that there are thousands of DAVE fans walking around....... it's not because i waited till the last minite to buy.... it's not because the venue is too small to accomodate more than 200 people. ----- the reason is because the GAVIN CONVENTION is in town and the DAVE band is headlining. no wonder they sold out in 2 days, RCA bought all but 100 tix. the GAVIN CONVENTION is a "major music industry confab named for the San Francisco-based radio trade magazine that sponsors it", according to the Times Picayune, the local and only newspaper in new orleans. on the front page of the MONEY section today there is the standard COLOR photo of DMB that takes up 1/3 of the page. RCA RECORDS' DAVE MATTHEWS BAND, TOP, MAKES A REPEAT APPEARANCE AT THE GAVIN CONVENTION -- GLAD- HANDING THE PEOPLE THE PEOPLE WHO CAN PUT THE BAND'S SONGS ON THE RADIO. fuck that. the only people at the show are gonna be schmooze record-execs. when a fan cant get tickets because corporate rock execs bought them all --- THAT IS SELLING OUT. fuck them. if anybody wants to say HI to me on thursday, find me at the blues traveler show. i'll be smiling. if anybody wants to find me FRIDAY, i'll be at the MORPHINE show the howling wolf. watching them for a second time. their performance tonight was great. excellent bar-band music. laid-back. a repeat performance is friday. i'm happy. at least they haven't sold out to big business corporate rock. all flames welcome. fuck you too. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- victor wandres wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
hey...just wanted to tell a little tale. on valentines day i went to give blood for my first time ever. i was fully nervous and almost backed out just before i put myself on the bed to give my plasma, but decided to keep on... nausea and all. the only thing that got me through the 15 minute experience (i had a very low blood pressure) was that i brought along my disc player and popped in my dmb disc. ohh the sweet sounds. dancing nancies pulled me through. yes indeed, donating to dave in my ears. well it turned out to be a wonderful experience that i will definitely do again.Top Permalink