minarets.net Mailing Archive (page 43)

Alright. you guys have to be aware that many many high school kids are 
part of this net and the more you insult them (not all high schoolers 
think that satellite is the best song performed by dmb ever for example) 
the fewer of them are going to stay loyal to dmb.  Just a note, munch.
			

Hey Gray,


I'm 24 and I am currently working at a law firm in DC.  I went to the 
recent Bender show and for the first time felt old at a concert.  I saw 
Phish in Philly a couple days before and although the crowd was also 
young it seemed to be fairly mature and attentive to the music.

I would like a copy of the NYE show if I am one of the chosen.


Jim DiNatale



			

Anyone else see all of the  fourteen-year-old 
couples  making out on the floor??

Reminds me of I song I know.  Anyone know 
that song "Recently"?

"Kissing all the time . . . "
--Morgan


			

I'm 21, just graduated from college, and in the working world.  At the
moment, I'm a professional peon and assistant editor (just in a Highly
Technical Computer Company), but I think my true profession is writer and
generally opinionated person.

Great question-- I'd love to know how old most of these people are.  And
how come it's high schoolers who jump up and down and scream and lose their
minds for "satellite."  Actually, how come anybody loses their mind when
listening to "satellite."


			

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico, Wisk & friends, 

89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago


1/5/94 

"Brazil Theme--"   .............Brazil Soundtrack
"Wilson"(underneathe opening schpeil)....Phish  5/23/994  Portland, OR
"Frankenstein"...................Phish 7/15/91 Academy, NYC
"Get in Line"....................Dave Matthews Band 10/26/94  Minneapolis
"Low Spark of High Heeled Boys"..Widespread Panic w/ Warren Haynes 10/3/93
"Support Your Local Emperor".....Blues Traveler 8/16/94 GSAC Holmdel. NJ
"Funky Bitch--Jam"..............Phish, 11/22/94 Columbia, MO
"Big House Blues"................Ren & Stimpy


/ \

Brian

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|Bobb Hall #107, 2305 Sheridan Road         ( \    / )   |    UE   EEN  | |
|Evanston, IL 60201                          ( \__/ )    ---------------- |
|Ladies and Gentleman...On Drums..Mr. Ernest Giussepe Anastasio!-Henrietta|
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/////// The problem is that we always want "the good old days" to continue, 
but they never do.  I know people who in 1971 through the scene at Grateful 
Dead concerts was becoming too much so they stopped going to shows.  These 
people moaned about the newbbies coming into the scene and the Dead having to 
play larger halls.  The old timers also thought the new fans did not 
"understand" the music like they did when they started seeing the Dead in 1968 
or 1969. Today the Dead play to 55,000 people in large stadiums.  My point is 
that all you need to do is look at other bands as an example of what 
might/will happen with the Dave Matthews Band.  For those who were into the 
scene from the start it might appear to be going down the drain, or you can 
see it as yet another stage in their development. //////// 

The recent thread about new, young fans, coupled with the above post, really 
hit home for me.  I think the attitude expressed by most of the posts 
regarding these younger fans needs some re-evaluation. 

I started seeing the Dead in 1980.  (think about what you all were doing in 
1980)  You cannot believe how different the scene was then.  You could 
literally walk up to a venue the day of a show and buy a ticket from the box 
office.  They would play venues like Norfolk Scope and University of Maryland 
Richie Coliseum for crowds of under 5,000 and never sell out.  Then over the 
next 5 years, everything changed drastically....Stadium gigs for 75,000 sold 
out in an hour and people scalped tickets in the parking lot.  I can't 
pinpoint each and every cause for this enormous increase in popularity of the 
am partly responsible for the tidal wave of fans that forever ended my ability 
to check out one of my favorite bands in an intimate venue.  let me explain. 

as i passed through high school and into college and beyond, i never missed an 
opportunity to turn on a friend, or a friend's brother or sister onto the 
music always has been an very important aspect of my life and also is an 
important aspect on my relationships with others, i.e. one of the common 
interests i share with the majority on my friends is a ferverent and 
insatiable love for live music.  and due to this passion, i found myself 
spreading the word.  i cannot tell you how many people i have slipped tapes to 
over the past 15 years.  during all that time, i never once thought about 
excluding people or tried to hoard the music to myself.  on the contrary, i 
was determined to turn on as many people as i could. 

school.  i was 22, they were 16 & 17.  not only did i help them with SATs and 
college applications, but i let them have access to all my tapes and taught a 
lot of them how to mail order tickets for Dead shows.  Sure they were young, 
sure they were silly, and you can bet that their first Dead show experience 
was quite a culture shock both to them and he seasoned Deadheads around them. 
into the live music thing.  their experiences with the Dead and eventually 
personal and spiritual growth.  it made them better people and therefore 
made the world a better place.  It is hard for me to even imagine that there 
are those among you who think that turning someone younger than you onto the 
whole peace-through-music ideal could EVER be a bad thing. 

this same attitude of sharing the wealth when it came to music has been with 
me from the moment i got turned on to DMB in the summer of 1992.  I treed 
tapes, I made tapes, I gave tapes.  (a lot of you have tapes in your 
collection that originated from me)  anyone who was interested would get a 
passionate sermon on how cool the music was and how much it deserved to be 
listened to.  i can't even imagine copping the attitude "i want to keep this 
music to myself; i don't want to share this music with younger people because 
they aren't cool enough yet"  it just doesn't seem right., but that is 
basically what the "ban the newbies attitude" is all about...exclusion, 
selfishness, and dis-invitation.  i used to refer to the jerks at Dead shows 
that were so rude to newcomers as considering themselves "Deader-than-thou"  I 
am beginning to be concerned that a number of DMB fans have become 
"Daver-than- thou"  that's a shame....actually. it's more than a shame...it's 
sad  :( 

i think the real challenge is to turn as many people on to the music of DMB 
think extreme amplification of the fan base of these bands would be a very 
cool thing.  i think that  the young people out there who are looking to 
belong and wanting to understand what we get out of the music we love is not a 
spread the word. 

remember, we are all older than we once were and younger than we'll be. 

peace, cjs 
			

     of course some teenagers have good musical tastes...
ben pops into mind.....but if you are the exception, thats cool

heh heh, i just wanted to quote that so anyone that missed it could be caught
up... heeee heee...

..when sattelites is played, some people chill and listen, and some
people lose their fucking minds....

this is true... losing your 'fucking mind' can be done in many ways,
though... it just so happens that stupid kids (which CAN INCLUDE YOU COLLEGE
PRICKS TOO! heh heh) tend to let being stupid and inconsiderate their 'way'
to lose their 'fucking mind'


BY THE WAY...
I have an idea!  I think we should start a dave cover band of anyone that's a
cancer.  heh heh.  see, here's the deal... i'm a cancer, we rock... clare is
a cancer... emily is a cancer... emily told me that chardy is a cancer,
though i guess i can't say this for sure... the way i see it, i play guitar,
i think chardy plays some form of drums, and the gals can just sing whatever
the fuck they want.  any bass playing cancers out there?  how about (yeah
right) a violin or sax?

we can all practice at my house.  since we're all on the same wavelength and
crap like that, we wouldn't need to practice all that much... and then when
dave plays msg, we could open...

:)

happy armenian christmas eve... i think...

ben

btw... 'everything' rocks!  happy happy music.

just another memo from the cellar,

************************************************************************
			

OK everybody,

I would like for everyone to take a long hard look at cjs's message (below) and 
try to understand that these screaming little fans probably mean as much
to Dave as do the rest of us. Then, after you read his message, go to 
the nearest and next DMB show and shake hands with the youngest fan 
you can find and offer to make them a bagby. Later!       

Shug


 
 
 
 /////// The problem is that we always want "the good old days" to continue, 
 but they never do.  I know people who in 1971 through the scene at Grateful 
 Dead concerts was becoming too much so they stopped going to shows.  These 
 people moaned about the newbbies coming into the scene and the Dead having to 
 play larger halls.  The old timers also thought the new fans did not 
 "understand" the music like they did when they started seeing the Dead in 1968 
 or 1969. Today the Dead play to 55,000 people in large stadiums.  My point is 
 that all you need to do is look at other bands as an example of what 
 might/will happen with the Dave Matthews Band.  For those who were into the 
 scene from the start it might appear to be going down the drain, or you can 
 see it as yet another stage in their development. //////// 
 
 The recent thread about new, young fans, coupled with the above post, really 
 hit home for me.  I think the attitude expressed by most of the posts 
 regarding these younger fans needs some re-evaluation. 
 
 I started seeing the Dead in 1980.  (think about what you all were doing in 
 1980)  You cannot believe how different the scene was then.  You could 
 literally walk up to a venue the day of a show and buy a ticket from the box 
 office.  They would play venues like Norfolk Scope and University of Maryland 
 Richie Coliseum for crowds of under 5,000 and never sell out.  Then over the 
 next 5 years, everything changed drastically....Stadium gigs for 75,000 sold 
 out in an hour and people scalped tickets in the parking lot.  I can't 
 pinpoint each and every cause for this enormous increase in popularity of the 
 am partly responsible for the tidal wave of fans that forever ended my ability 
 to check out one of my favorite bands in an intimate venue.  let me explain. 
 
 as i passed through high school and into college and beyond, i never missed an 
 opportunity to turn on a friend, or a friend's brother or sister onto the 
 music always has been an very important aspect of my life and also is an 
 important aspect on my relationships with others, i.e. one of the common 
 interests i share with the majority on my friends is a ferverent and 
 insatiable love for live music.  and due to this passion, i found myself 
 spreading the word.  i cannot tell you how many people i have slipped tapes to 
 over the past 15 years.  during all that time, i never once thought about 
 excluding people or tried to hoard the music to myself.  on the contrary, i 
 was determined to turn on as many people as i could. 
 
 school.  i was 22, they were 16 & 17.  not only did i help them with SATs and 
 college applications, but i let them have access to all my tapes and taught a 
 lot of them how to mail order tickets for Dead shows.  Sure they were young, 
 sure they were silly, and you can bet that their first Dead show experience 
 was quite a culture shock both to them and he seasoned Deadheads around them. 
  the 17 year olds are now 25 year olds and for the most part they are still 
 into the live music thing.  their experiences with the Dead and eventually 
 personal and spiritual growth.  it made them better people and therefore 
 made the world a better place.  It is hard for me to even imagine that there 
 are those among you who think that turning someone younger than you onto the 
 whole peace-through-music ideal could EVER be a bad thing. 
 
 this same attitude of sharing the wealth when it came to music has been with 
 me from the moment i got turned on to DMB in the summer of 1992.  I treed 
 tapes, I made tapes, I gave tapes.  (a lot of you have tapes in your 
 collection that originated from me)  anyone who was interested would get a 
 passionate sermon on how cool the music was and how much it deserved to be 
 listened to.  i can't even imagine copping the attitude "i want to keep this 
 music to myself; i don't want to share this music with younger people because 
 they aren't cool enough yet"  it just doesn't seem right., but that is 
 basically what the "ban the newbies attitude" is all about...exclusion, 
 selfishness, and dis-invitation.  i used to refer to the jerks at Dead shows 
 that were so rude to newcomers as considering themselves "Deader-than-thou"  I 
 am beginning to be concerned that a number of DMB fans have become 
 "Daver-than- thou"  that's a shame....actually. it's more than a shame...it's 
 sad  :( 
 
 i think the real challenge is to turn as many people on to the music of DMB 
 think extreme amplification of the fan base of these bands would be a very 
 cool thing.  i think that  the young people out there who are looking to 
 belong and wanting to understand what we get out of the music we love is not a 
 spread the word. 
 
 remember, we are all older than we once were and younger than we'll be. 
 
 peace, cjs 
 

			

W
			

Hey all,

Rumors been flying up here about Dave coming to Rochester somewhere
around the 11th of Feb.  Is this bullshit??  Also, others say he will be
touring around Syracuse, Ithaca, and somewhere else.  Just to calm the
masses, can anyone give me any info?



Seth
Goldberg-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-Goldberg@Rochgte.fidonet.org


That way, nobody can capture me.....They can use the hell out of me, but
there ain't too much they can do to me.  They can mess me up, play the
wrong note, they can play a C, but they can't really destroy a C.  All
it is, is a tone...So I'm gonna come back as a note.


_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-




			

i strongly condone the recent commentary on the changing aura at dave shows.
am i the only one that attributes this to the pounding bass that rca has
given dave and fans alike? i couldn't hear much of anything at fox or bender,
due to the booming new dynamic?!?#@! sound of dmb. i felt myself a guest at
an MTV dance party, as this certain pounding encompassed the audience. i
don't get excited about hearing dave on kicker boxes and bazooka tubes when i
go home next summer. i'm not looking to be critical as much as i'm looking
for an answer. :-)

does anyone have a tape of last summer's dave/tim reynolds jam at the
birchmere? i'd like to trade for it.

saying goodbye,
sara
			

confirm Jan. 26 at Memorial Auditorium in Burlington, VT.  Tickets are 
$22 + ($2 ?)Charge if you order over the phone, and unfortunately, I 
believe BHT is headlining.  Tickets went on sale last Friday, but it is 
general admission and I believe there are plenty of tix left.  I have 
also heard they will be playing at Dartmouth College in Hanover, NH 
sometime that week as well.  Just a note from the North Country-



P.S.  Also unconfirmed at Cornell?
			

I've been trying for some time to get a tape of Dave (and the Band?) playing
Redemption Song. I might be giving away the farm here, but I'm willing to offer
a 
2 for 1 trade to anyone, regardless of how old you are :), who has a good
quality show with this song.

Thanks,
Gavin

			

stupid kids (which CAN INCLUDE YOU COLLEGE
PRICKS TOO! heh heh) tend to let being stupid and inconsiderate their 'way'
to lose their 'fucking mind'
said dmb shows were looking more and more
like frat parties?  its just that....i mean
they look like a bunch of ants
all of em
big ones small ones
fat ones skinny ones
young ones old ones
right on, ben

oh...and
BY THE WAY...
I have an idea!  I think we should start a dave cover band of anyone that's a
cancer.  heh heh.  see, here's the deal... i'm a cancer, we rock... clare is
a cancer... emily is a cancer... emily told me that chardy is a cancer,
though i guess i can't say this for sure... the way i see it, i play guitar,
i think chardy plays some form of drums, and the gals can just sing whatever
the fuck they want.  any bass playing cancers out there?

its not a big stretch.......(sort of)
up in a fire when ben was...lets see..ben was 1)...it says
i was born at 11:57pm on 20JUN.....
but _first_ of all.....my mom said her watch (set to some form
of "official" time, was 5 min faster than the hospitals, making
it 21JUN when i was "released"
i was born in the central time zone.....
and everyone else on the list...ben..clareemily...
..cha...etc....whoever else...is in eastern....so i
was born at 12:57am, edt, once it was already 21JUN.......
...---and, of course, 21JUN is cancer.....

i like to have my parties with hats and blowey things on 20JUN, which
is gemini, but that must be close enough.....and next year, ill do it
on 21JUN....a cancer hat party....

and if *that's* not goood enough...i play bass

i just can't focus on school yet  .......


how about (yeah right) a violin or sax?

shit ...we can do this...


so people can hear what he can do live, etc....and who thinks i
should not do it, because it would be generally a pain in the ass..?

just curious...ive had two people give me both sides on their
own accord......just wondering what everyone else thought...
especially you boofy....
			

Besides CNN, MTV, and USA Today, there is a cool little article in the 
Feb. issue of Guitar Player (p.19) Neato. Actually saw the video last 
night and thought it was pretty cool (air time 1:40 EST)

Also if this age thing is becoming such a big issue, then we wont have a 
problem taping the Richmond shows...how you ask? Well while the mosh pit 
is going on during Tripping Billies we can bring in the stroller 
(someone elses idea I know,) while everyone is distracted. Ive been told 
that there is a stroller section by the board for the newest and youngest 
of DMB fans...then while everyone is either making out ('This is our song 
honey') or waving lighters in the air we can set up shop! That is unless 
some tyke has his 'My First Sony' DAT, or PlaySchool Deck mooched in 
there first by giving a bribe of some bubble gum and a Pete Rose baseball 
card to Jeff...
I really dont care how old anyone is just as long as they didnt have too 
much red Kool-Aid before the show and are so hyper they start to bother 
me. I know it is impossible to sit still during a DMB show but show some 
respect...there ARE people behind you!!!

I guess thats it...
Kyle when do you leave?

Dave
			

January 26 Burlington, VT/Memorial Auditorium
January 27 Hanover, NH/Dartmouth College
January 28 Lewiston, ME/Bates College
January 30-31 Providence, RI/Lupo's
February 2 Orono, ME/University of Maine
February 3 Hartford, CT/Trinity College
February 4 Boston, MA/Orpheum Theatre
February 5 New Haven , CT/Palace Theatre
February 7 Northampton, MA/Smith College
February 8 Albany, NY/Palace Theatre
February 10 Philadelphia, PA/Tower Theater
February 11-12 University Park, PA/Penn State
February 14-15 Richmond, VA/Carpenter Center (DMB ONLY)
February 17 New Orleans, LA/House of Blues (DMB ONLY)
February 20 Syracuse, NY/Landmark Theatre
February 21 Manchester, NH/N. H. College
February 23-24 New York, NY/Roseland Ballroom
February 25 Easton, PA/Kirby Fieldhouse

March 19-April 2: DMB in UK & Western Europe
			

Oh yea Dave, Jimmy Ross(the famous one) always had red kool-aid stains on 
his mouth.  Hence, I've never dranken kool-aid.
Guess what, the heavy step is a huge hit amongst my buddies, we laugh 
until the chitlins come home.  That's my new favorite word CHITLIN.  I 
use it in every sentence cuz' I do not know what it is, i.e. give me some 
of that chitlin, I think that nutty chitlin is following me, I have a 
case of the chitlins, if you don't get that chitlin off my back there is 
going to be a heap of trouble, please give me a chitlin with horseradish 
on the side.   I crack myself up!!
			

Howdy all.

I'm back in Tejas after 10 glorious snowy days up (relatively) north.  For
those who have yet to see the video and don't want to wade through hours of
Boyz II Men like I did trying to catch it these past few weeks, I believe it
is on a pretty set rotation on MTV.  Go to bed at a decent hour (10:00 or so
since this is break time), and set your alarms for 1:45 am eastern time.  I
caught it three times while I was home at this same exact spot -- During the
"Dream Time" show.  (Brett, darling, I know you can stay up this late).

Some quick thoughts since I didn't see too much chatter about it in the 172
much like a bad Peter Gabriel video rip-off to me.  I had brief nightmare
visions of it ending up on Beavis and Butthead (although that show does amuse
me at times, I don't want to hear what they have to say about the harlequin
makeup).  But after seeing it again and then taping it, I have to say that it
did grow on me.  I thought the brief live band/crowd shots did a passable job
at capturing the spirit of a show, and of course I'd watch this any day over
Bon Jovi's new one, so... we'll see if it moves out of Dream Time.

Anyway, happy '95 to all.

Beth
			

 at capturing the spirit of a show, and of course I'd watch this any day over
 Bon Jovi's new one, so... we'll see if it moves out of Dream Time.

The one with Cindy CRawford......oohhh i LOVE htat one....
anyway.....
Kieth....if you want to tree the tape on other nets, thats cool. I think 
it is  a good quick way to cover all aspects of DMB, past and present...

BTW the rarities tape is still pluggin along.....dont fret..

Tanen or other computer geniuses, The next step we need on the Homepage 
is quicktime/mpeg videos. As we speak i am ftp Tori amos playing God on 
Jay Leno. I can also get NIN videos. THis stuff is the shit and i need 
more things to procrastinate with. If we could upload the video, then 
everyone with Mosaic could se it :-)

anyways...latr.
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A little late, but thought I would wish all of you a happy new year!  
Anyone else catch that crazy Phish show?  A giant flying hot dog!  I 
nearly lost it!  Hope the Dave show was just as tremendous for all those 
who saw it.

Now, down to bussiness, I need Max Point sheets!  I am in dire need of at 
least two Max points sheets to send my little points in.  If anyone can 
hook me up with these I will spin you your choice of a tape from my huge 
and crispy Phish collection.  And for the hell of it I will spin the 
first 3 people who respond some tapes if they send me blanks.

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.

			

so i'm sittin here, listening to the fuzz on my 4th Generation Soundboard copy
of DMB at TRAX 3/23/93, and i hear #34-- with words.    


lie upon me i'll
lean upon you
we'll be okay


lie about it
cry about it
we'll be okay

the rest sounds like gibberish to me.

the really cool thing is Carter's drumroll-type stuff during the break section
(even though Boyd sounds SO out of tune).

it ends, not on the suspended chord (as on UTTAD), but on a nice resloution in
A.

has anyone else heard this version?   if so, were you able to figure out any 
other words?!

-anyoneotherthanme

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
read.    listen to dave.    nap.    read clare's .sig.    eat.
read.   read.   listen to dave.   hear dave.    write.   read.

repeat until you are content and dreaming (_I_ have been)...
----------------------------------------------------------------
Dominic Sagolla '96    dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College     dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081   sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

 so i'm sittin here, listening to the fuzz on my 4th Generation Soundboard copy
 of DMB at TRAX 3/23/93, and i hear #34-- with words.    

#34 has had words as long  as i've ever heard the song, 
which was why those netters who were present over the summer
upon hearing that #34 would be on the album (not #36 as one
would have expected) that, indeed, #34 would be in instrumental.
i'm still shocked that the words weren't sung on the album, 
but then again, 
the album version of #34 is about
two minutes shorter than the song is usually.
maybe this has something to do with it.

this, as well, should be in the faq. 
PLEASE make sure you read your faq's.
they kick ass with the info and lots
of people have worked very hard on them 
so that they are up-to-date and full
of neato tidbit info on stuff like
the evolution of the names of songs, 
and who people like miguel valdez and chris hani
are... 
education is astounding, isn't it? 
just to think... college.. wow...
 
 lie upon me i'll
 lean upon you
 we'll be okay

lean upon me
i'll lean upon you
we'll be okay


 lie about it
 cry about it
 we'll be okay

lie valdez 
cry valdez
we'll be okay....


 the rest sounds like gibberish to me.

actually, it's not.
i've got a vrey clear version
from 3.17.93 (a stellar version from which the sub line 
of this post comes from and it's also my fav line from this song, period)


 has anyone else heard this version?   if so, were you able to figure out any 
 other words?!
absolutely... 
as i said, until uttad, this was the only way #34 was ever performed.

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
 listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
 read.    listen to dave.    nap.    read clare's .sig.    eat.

i'm not sure i like 
my name being in people's sigs.
people.. i am but a simple girl
liek you all.
all this freakage is making me have recurring dreams
of beign stalked.
not good, eh?
love thy (den) mother..
cut me some slack...

'give me these moments, give them back to me.. give me that little kiss, 
give me your hand.....'

smoking is an order in this message..

love and hugs and wool socks, 
clare emily

*******************************************************************************
'i could turn and walk away or i could fire the gun staring at the sky staring
at the sun... whichever i choose it amounts to the same.. absolutely nothing'
*******************************************************************************

			

name in my .sig.    i'm sorry that you feel stalked.    i'm not that guy.    
i'm the other guy.   the one who Two Steps all over Mr. Prying Eyes.

i just like your .sigs, that's all.

i READ the FAQs.    i ADDED to the FAQs.    i 1 the FAQs... i 2 the FAQs... i 
8 the FAQs.

tasted alot like chicken...

-anyoneotherthanme

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
read.    listen to dave.    nap.    strum... strum.    eat.
read.   read.   listen to dave.   hear dave.    write.   read.

repeat until you feel better for a small time...
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Dominic Sagolla '96    dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College     dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081   sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

For those looking for the video, try catching Darcy's Music on VH1 if you 
get it.  It was on a few nights ago and that is how I caught it.  

It totally reminded me of Peter Gabriel, too, BTW, but I liked it.  

Melissa
magar@knox.edu

			

 Now, down to bussiness, I need Max Point sheets!  I am in dire need of at 
 least two Max points sheets to send my little points in.  If anyone can 
 hook me up with these I will spin you your choice of a tape from my huge 
 and crispy Phish collection.  And for the hell of it I will spin the 
 first 3 people who respond some tapes if they send me blanks.
 


Actually, you only need one Max Point sheet because they allow 
photocopied sheets to be sent in.  

Melissa
magar@knox.edu

			

I was reading the faq again and i saw mention of an archive in the works 
but in the last 5 months i've seen nothing about it.....i have about 8 
great tapes that only have set lists and no other info...i don't include 
these in my tape list because any serious tapers want all that info ....
anyways there are probably a plethera (hehe) of peoples out there 
including myself who would live to help put together an archive

any thoughts.......please post

if the phish net can put one together from the last  9 years can't we ...

"I don't do          *T.J. Palvino**********   at a dollar bill,man? There's
drugs- I am drugs."  *p.o. box 131 *********   some spooky stuff going on in
-Dali                *Lexington VA 24450****   there, and its GREEN too!!"

			

is the greatest day in the whole world stop shitting on my birthday.

Thank you,

Molly

			

Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I can't stand it-they are going to be here in
the midst of this cold, snowy winter and *I* get to see them.
I am so excited that I can't wait.  Tickets don't go on sale until
1/20 according to the Landmark office.  Ticketbastard here in
the 'Cuse can be reached by calling 315/472-0700.  There might be
an 800 number but I don't know it-sorry!  oh, yes!  Something to
look forward to.

And btw, cjs is right on about this fan thing.  The best thing to
do is just remain positive about it.  Don't let the negativity
overtake it all.  

klong
			

is the greatest day in the whole world stop shitting on my birthday.

how can anyone possibly read that much negativity into that post i made....
shit, i even like the day.....

relax
and *you* stop shitting on the fun that makes this net what it is.....not only
informative, but enjoyable...and interesting...all elements..

if you don't chill out i might have to send 800 obnoxious messages to
the net about how i must unsubscribe, because this is too much mail and,
how awful it is that no one will tell me how to unsubscribe, even though
it is written in the intro letter that i forgot to read, and didnt save, and
how pissed off i am that i have to ask so many times even though listproc@moose
isn't that hard to remember....and how the command "unsubscribe minarets"
is so awfully confusing, and how someone needs to help because this is getting
rediculous, and how awful and tragic it all seems, etc....

and how someone (any volunteers???) needs to wave their magic wand to get
me happy agasin....and on and on and on and on and on and on..........

and, molly, please don't send me a message asking me to stop shitting on the
unsubscribers

loved the stamp story clare, ill mail ya when i wake up!!!

yes, people, i am asleep now.....
no way negativity, no way!




oh, and ben-- does this rash outburst disqualify me from the "hey, I'll
shit on any day to be a cancer" band???? hope not...

mmmmmmmmmm..........snapple

keith
			

Tickets for DMB and BHT playing together in Boston February 4 are going on
sale, I hear, this Saturday, i.e. tomorrow.

Does anyone else know anything about BHT/DMB tour dates this year, or
whether this is all just a nasty sweet little rumor?

			

just when i finally threatened to hybernate for a while,
alas....hark....i am awake...

but only for a sec.... i just wanted everyone to know that
molly and i have sorted things out, and ............

i have a new friend!   sort of....  well, were peaceful, anyway

i knew that would be of concern to you all....judging from that
rediculous amount of flameing due to the sandy/jonfro episode of
last month....

were down
were cool

a pinch of sarcasm makes a trek up a mountian, a jog up a molehill

just another piece of arbitrary philosophical bs from the cellar,

			

 From minarets@moose.uvm.edu Fri Jan  6 12:55 EST 1995
 
 is the greatest day in the whole world stop shitting on my birthday.
 
    ooooh give me a BREAK, molly
 how can anyone possibly read that much negativity into that post i made....
 shit, i even like the day.....
 
 relax
 and *you* stop shitting on the fun that makes this net what it is.....not only
 informative, but enjoyable...and interesting...all elements..
 
 if you don't chill out i might have to send 800 obnoxious messages to
 the net about how i must unsubscribe, because this is too much mail and,
 how awful it is that no one will tell me how to unsubscribe, even though
 it is written in the intro letter that i forgot to read, and didnt save, and
 how pissed off i am that i have to ask so many times even though listproc@moose
 isn't that hard to remember....and how the command "unsubscribe minarets"
 is so awfully confusing, and how someone needs to help because this is getting
 rediculous, and how awful and tragic it all seems, etc....
 
 and how someone (any volunteers???) needs to wave their magic wand to get
 me happy agasin....and on and on and on and on and on and on..........
 
 and, molly, please don't send me a message asking me to stop shitting on the
 unsubscribers
 
 loved the stamp story clare, ill mail ya when i wake up!!!
 
 yes, people, i am asleep now.....
 no way negativity, no way!
 
      sarcasm, serenity, and snapple
 
                           keith
 
 
 oh, and ben-- does this rash outburst disqualify me from the "hey, I'll
 shit on any day to be a cancer" band???? hope not...
 
 mmmmmmmmmm..........snapple
 
 keith
 
I,m really lost, here.  Is this message (the part from molly) something
concerning that nasty message a few days ago aboiut wanting to unsubscribe?
I guess it's really not that big a deal, I just wanted to know...

working, wishing for snow, and dreaming of being under the table

shug

			

but you see i'm tangled up
i've got a kitten kitten
kitten
kitten in my hair...



hee hee i'm a cancer.
hee hee i'll play moraccas.
and other funsey kinds of stuff.
like spoons, and uh... pots adn pans
and glasses of water (or snapple)
ben on guitar, keith on bass, 
chardy on DRUMS!
emily on uh.. we'll figger out exactly 
what emily adn i'll do..
we'll pretend liek we have some kind
of musical talent. 
emily on vacuum cleaner. yeah yeah.
we'll have lots of our own songs, 
but we'll do cool tori covers, too..
we need a cancer piano player!! here here!!
apply within!
but yunno what keith? 
i wasn't born in EST!!
ha! (fooled ya, didn't i?)
good ole vir-geeeen-eee-aaaaaa
is only the eighth state i've lived in 
(not counting the three years in europe)
and so i guess that makes me born in mountain standard time.
i dunno.. is phoenix mountain standard time?
hmmmmm
'the worms crawl in the worms crawl out'

here's a happy story for everyone who does
(and doesn't know me)
cause we all love one another and you'll
feel happy when you read it.
i went to the post office yesterday to (finally) 
mail jason dear jason't tapes (which have been ready adn in the package 
for over a month now.. i just had conflicting schedules with teh post 
office during holiday times. who'd have known they'd be closed the four 
times i actually GOT there.. ok.. on with my story....
post office wanted to get 3200 three cent stamps.
can you believe that?
the man said,  i'm sorry ma'am, but we're out.
and she said,  i havebills to pay!
the man said,  i'm sorry ma'am, but we're out.
and she said,  if you don't want to sell them to me just say so.
the man said,  i'm sorry ma'am, but we're _out_.
and then he sold me four three cent stamps.
hee heee
(i'm glad i dont have that many bill's worth of stamps to pay!)

'i drown at night in your house...'
love light jubilance lollipops gumdrops marshmallows (rick says i smell 
like marshmallows? but he'll tell ya the story of seeing me with out my 
pearls.. hee heee do telll you sweet thing rick you! i somehow remember 
them ending up on him, and somehow ice was involved.... discuss!)

go bop bop 

cecececececececececececececececececececececececececececececececececececececec


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'i could turn and walk away or i could fire the gun staring at the sky staring
at the sun... whichever i choose it amounts to the same.. absolutely nothing'
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 stupid kids (which CAN INCLUDE YOU COLLEGE
 PRICKS TOO! heh heh) tend to let being stupid and inconsiderate their 'way'
 to lose their 'fucking mind'
      ummmmm...yea..who was it that
 said dmb shows were looking more and more
 like frat parties?  its just that....i mean
 they look like a bunch of ants
 all of em
 big ones small ones
 fat ones skinny ones
 young ones old ones
 right on, ben
 
 oh...and
 BY THE WAY...
 I have an idea!  I think we should start a dave cover band of anyone that's a
 cancer.  heh heh.  see, here's the deal... i'm a cancer, we rock... clare is
 a cancer... emily is a cancer... emily told me that chardy is a cancer,
 though i guess i can't say this for sure... the way i see it, i play guitar,
 i think chardy plays some form of drums, and the gals can just sing whatever
 the fuck they want.  any bass playing cancers out there?
 
     ok-- im down with this....but you have to use your imagination a little
 its not a big stretch.......(sort of)
   ok i talked to my mom....she says that
   according to my birth cert., (which, incedently, burned
 up in a fire when ben was...lets see..ben was 1)...it says
 i was born at 11:57pm on 20JUN.....
 but _first_ of all.....my mom said her watch (set to some form
 of "official" time, was 5 min faster than the hospitals, making
 it 21JUN when i was "released"
 i was born in the central time zone.....
 and everyone else on the list...ben..clareemily...
 .cha...etc....whoever else...is in eastern....so i
 was born at 12:57am, edt, once it was already 21JUN.......
 ..---and, of course, 21JUN is cancer.....
 
 i like to have my parties with hats and blowey things on 20JUN, which
 is gemini, but that must be close enough.....and next year, ill do it
 on 21JUN....a cancer hat party....
 
 and if *that's* not goood enough...i play bass
 
 i just can't focus on school yet  .......
 
 
 how about (yeah right) a violin or sax?
    how about a clairanet?........or tablas?
 
 shit ...we can do this...
 
                          keith
 
 so people can hear what he can do live, etc....and who thinks i
 should not do it, because it would be generally a pain in the ass..?
 
 just curious...ive had two people give me both sides on their
 own accord......just wondering what everyone else thought...
 especially you boofy....
 
			

Yes the WAREHOUSE will happen. RIght now i am trying to register, 
drop/add, finish the rarities, and work on the warehouse, and fiond a 
lost trade......gimme time...
anyways.....
latr cheers.....

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|Washington and Lee       Lexington, Va. 24450	Richmond, Va.23221	|
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...was in NYC for new years eve, and there i am, out of my element but 
happy as a clam, driving down 42nd street in a cab, half drunk, and i 
think i see a halucination, but no, it was real, i swear, a big tall 
lighted advertisement box in the window of a record store with the UTTAD 
cover brightly glowing...a bit of home (Va) right there in the big apple. 
cool, huh?
just a tid bit of warmth for you all
kristin


			

I'm a newbie to Minarets.  Could anyone help me out with some good 
shows?  I don't have any.  I have Phish, Wide Spread Panic, and Percy 
Hill boots to offer.

Pete
Afd@christa.unh.edu

			

I really have nothing to say...miles davis is a god.......wow what was 
that???? 

fungi starts with f-u-n .........kinda cool......


what time is it???????

later...


"I don't do          *T.J. Palvino**********   at a dollar bill,man? There's
drugs- I am drugs."  *p.o. box 131 *********   some spooky stuff going on in
-Dali                *Lexington VA 24450****   there, and its GREEN too!!"

			

Anyone else going to the 1/27 show at Dartmouth College?

Pete

			

okay my sweety pies... i have a question or two...


1) are roseland (feb. 23 & 24th) on sale yet? if not, does anyone out there
know WHEN they go onsale?  if they're onsale NOW NOW NOW, then, well, i best
get crackin' with my peoples...

2) please don't tell me bht are headlining... i guess maybe they'll switch
off or something for those 2 shows... ack...

ben

p.s.... goddamnit clare, that IS how you spell 'poser'!!!!!!!!!

just another memo from the cellar,

************************************************************************
			

The entire tour is a co-headlining tour, meaning both bands will receive
equal billing in every city they play.

For those who insist on heirarchies (or on knowing how late they can arrive
and still catch DMB....), DMB will close the show for all eastern dates,
which includes all dates listed in the "Pt.1" tour dates.

For ticket info on the Roseland dates, call (212) 247-0200.
			

and how someone (any volunteers???) needs to wave their magic wand to get
me happy agasin....and on and on and on and on and on and on..........

ta da! happy happy dave dave 2 nights at roooooseland...

oh, and ben-- does this rash outburst disqualify me from the "hey, I'll
shit on any day to be a cancer" band???? hope not...

no no no... isn't that one of our character trait thingies? clare needs to
post all this crazy shit her mom gives her... because i forgot what i'm
supposed to be. heh heh. 'i strive to conform to what you try to condone'...
shit i think that's the line from NICU. tanen????? do you know the line?

just another piece of arbitrary philosophical bs from the cellar,

BACK OFF KEITH that's MY LINE! ;)


lighted advertisement box in the window of a record store with the UTTAD 
cover brightly glowing...a bit of home (Va) right there in the big apple.

yeah, there are a few of those... i think i know the one you're talking
about.  gosh... but honestly, it's probably only because it's selling
MODERATELY well, and RCA was eager to send them out, yunno? wouldn't that
make sense?  because, believe it or not, dave is NOT very big in new york
(even if a few 12 year old girls love him...for NOW), and putting him up in
one of those displays doesn't really mean very much.  But it's still both
cool and strange to see them...



And and and and... the roseland phone number does not help for when tickets
go on sale, as they're only telling me dates through january... i suppose
i'll just swing by irving plaza and find out (yes irving plaza sells roseland
tickets, confusing yes...).

i'm ready for the bigtime is it ready for me?

ben

just another memo from the cellar,

************************************************************************
			

Hello, How are you doing today-
it comes, because my other account is down for a couple of days.  Thanks 
in advance.

			

Let's see...DMB sold out Roseland (cap.3,200) on their own in October...and
now they're headlining 2 nights....so I suupose they're pretty big, actually.

Unless of course your standard for big begins at Madison Square Garden...
			

just another piece of arbitrary philosophical bs from the cellar,

BACK OFF KEITH that's MY LINE! ;)


really....

oh--who wants to tell me when most people
get back from break.,....
i dont want to stop these tree thingys too early

and my other question (since the warehouse is
still being furnished)........

im looking for the date of a show in oxford mississippi
something, ants, jimithing, best o wa, satell
r&r, recently, minarets, true refl.....any
help will be very appriciated and quite lovely indeed

			

#of respondants : 59
average age : 21.72
low age : 16
high age : 42
most common age : 22 (12 respondants)

high school : 5
college : 22
graduate school : 8
working : 19
unspecified : 5

hope you find this trival information somewhat interesting.

gray

--
I'm not from here, I just live here.

			

low age : 16
high age : 42

just to draw out the trivial information even more, on the rare dave tree forms
, someone was 15, and someone else was 53.....but i cant remember who..
			

Whilest i was on South Street today, i heard a radio promo about the 
Tower theatre show.  The radio guy clearly said, (insert radio anouncer 
voice here..) "Big Head Todd!!!!!! with david matthews band.."  and some 
other band which I don't remember.  Also of note was the fact that they 
played BHT snippets, but I didn't hear any dave.  Alas! My point here is 
that it definately sounded like BHT was the headliner.  Anyone else?

On a totally unrelated note, the sandwich i got after standing in the line 
where i heard the promo was the best sandwich i ever had in my WHOLE 
life.  Turkey with cole slaw and rusian dressing on wheat.  It gets the 
TB seal of approval. I strongly reccommend it.

Later.
_______

Todd Beauchamp (toddb@chopin.udel.edu)       
Quit School;  make music.
_______                        


			

how many people are subscribers to this list?
do we know? can we find out?
how many people receive all the random babble i post?
this age survey stuff got me curious...
catherine
			

January
13 knoxville
14 athens
16 oxford
17 new orleans
18 tuscalusa
20 tuscalusa (frat party)
21 atlanta
23 charlottesville
24 richmond
25 richmond (tentative)
26 ashville
27 winston salem
29 sewanee
31 blacksburg
Feb
1 boone
2 chapel hill
3 dc
4 new york


--
You can close your eyes, as long as you can still see the sun



			

Can anyone send me the phone # for Burlington
tickets? 

Also, I can make copies of the Bender show for
the first few digestified people who ask. Just 
tell me what topic # this message was under.

Gracias,
Kwon

			

bullshit in my email every morning, but I just do not have the space or 
time anymore. I really only wanted tour dates. 


			

Just spoke with someone regarding DMB. "Oh,yeah...don't they have that 
circus thing on the cover?  They sound like the Outfield"


um = yeah...
BK


			

Does anybody know who is signing back up on Satellite on the Demo Tape?  
It sounds like a woman, maybe Shannon??????

Just Curious,

Pat
			

please dont be mad, i rarely post and take up "bandwidth" as you all like 
to call it...

I am interested in getting my hands on the words to "Say Goodbye" This 
past summer  I was sent the lyrics file, but the words arent the same as 
the version that i have (from Ziggys, this past August) I am also 
intersted in getting the chord file for a friend of mine if that is 
possible. My problem is i realize you all will probably tell me i can 
find it in some FTP location, however i have NO idea what that is or how 
it works... so, i am at the mercy of some kind soul out there to send me 
the current lyrics to Say Goodbye and the guitar stuff. Thanks in advance!
Kristin :)




			

Let's see...DMB sold out Roseland (cap.3,200) on their own in October...and
now they're headlining 2 nights....so I suupose they're pretty big,
actually.

Your point being?  Blind Melon sold out Roseland, Candlebox sold out
Roseland, I'm sure Megadeth will sell out 2 nights at Roseland... none of
these bands are unusually large in New York.  I find your tone rather rude.

Besides, you are the one that just a day or two ago was reminding me that
Dave isn't HEADLINING, he's just GOING ON LAST, which of course is the same
thing, but stick with your own opinions, please...

Humph.  It's a pleasure to meet you too.

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

************************************************************************
			

First a brief hello from the man, the myth, the legend who introduced me and
several other die hard New Yorkers to DMB.  A word now from our hero,

Just wanted to say hello to all the DMB netters out there.  This is my
first time on MinaretNet, so's  I guess I'm called a newbie.  Is that
uncool?  Anyway, I hope to be on again soon b/c there's a lot of cool stuff
there who are also drummers b/c that is what I am.  Would be interested in
corresponding with you and talking about  Carter and what a fuckin' bad ass
drummer he is and just about drums, music, life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness.  Much to peace you all.  Talk to you soon, hopefully.  

Hey Ben T--we just checked out your web page .  Sound and pics are AWESOME.
say?

Anyone who can, definitely should take a moment to appreciate the
brilliance created by ben--i.e his http site.  You think I'm over stating
til you've been there.  Kudos.

Gray--I was confused by the Feb 4 NY show.  Thought they were in Boston. 
Do you know something new???

Gavin here (our little Jamaican friend) wants to know if there are any
other Yardies/Trinis/Bajans out there.

About this whole younstas thang...we just want to say, "hands and feet are
all alike but age between divide us..."

Marianne
Gavin
Jonathan (newbie freak)



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anyone know the names of the girl and the guy on the cover of Recently? I 
swear i know that girl, is her name dierdre?

thanks
Kristin


			

Dave on the RadioL"::

Im out here in SOuthern California and there is a new radio station 101.9 
(Album Alternative) out of Los Angeles that plays Dave just about every day.
Ive heard Sattaallitteiliteellite, What Would You Say, and Best of What's Around about
10 times.  Ripass...

How come it doesnt seem like Dave everMB performs Best of What's Around in concert?

Oh, and about the age s of the fans changing....I saw DMB at the the coachCoach
House in San Jauan and I was about the youngest one in the arocournd (17round (17).
Oh well, ll....eat and dt, drink and be merry.  For tommowrow we die.

Mike
			

dear david michael bell

to cancel your subscription you must send a msg to
listproc@moose.uvm.edu
saying

'unsubscribe minarets'

smiles and hugs, 
(even thought i'm one of those virginia 
people who's bullshit is probably causing you to 
unsubscribe in teh first place...)

clare emily

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December and I have not had a chance to read all of the posts, but I
did scan through a lot of them and I was suprised to see that no one
mentioned what I think was a new song that was not only played in
Charlotte on the 29th but was created there.  Dave asked the crowd
if it would be alright if they just jammed for a minute.  What he
played on the guitar part was very repetitive and I didn't watch him
really close, but I didn't see him even change chords.  He then begin
to sing something and he seemed to be making it up as he went because
he repeated something over and over.  After it was over with, someone
from the crowd asked what it's name was and he thought for a minute
and then said something which I could not understand.  If anyone has
any info. about this please write me back.  I would love to get this
tape if anyone has it.  After the show I heard Carter say that
they were soon going to be touring with Sting or Paul Simon or both of
them, but if this is true I can not imagine that I am the only one
who has heard this and I do not know why I am the first one to
mention it.  Anyway I've been sitting in front of this computer for
way to long.

later,
Cliff










			

In Billboard magazine with the Year in Video cover, the music reviews section
reviewed Jimi Thing.  It said the song was avaliable on cassette single.
with the sax solo at the end left off entirely. I wonder if the cassette
single does the same thing.
Don't remember much about the review other than it said UTTAD was an
"underappreciated album."
			

How come it doesnt seem like Dave everMB performs Best of What's Around
 in concert?

-----i was actually wondering the same thing until then...

oh----and kristen?//???  @wake forest...how many different versions of the
say g'bye lyrics do you want?  when i asked him (dave) about why the h'wween
lyrics are different at different shows, he said it was a mood thing, like
say goodbye and something else...he just replaced arbitrary lines periodically

the lyric file might be the best you'll do, short of transcribing em yourself

			

does everyone make a wish on a shooting star?
if so.. why?
is it due to that glimmer of hope
of what
'could be'?
just bein curious i am... cause i once knew someone who didnt' wish on 
stars or wish on anything cause he said that his wishes ever came true..
it's scary.. cause i look at it and none of my wishes have ever come true..
hm.... tell me i'm not a nihilist!!!!?????

'i know what this means, me and jesus few years back used to hang...'


Does anybody know who is signing back up on Satellite on the Demo Tape?
It sounds like a woman, maybeShannon???
Pat

hm.. this might also be kristin ashbury.. 
from alma and a member of the former c-ville allstars...

let's see..
kristin foster asked about getting a copy of teh say goodbye from ziggy's 
and it not being the same as in the lyrics file.
well.. 
no two versions of say goodbye, still to this day, are teh same.
i heard it twice last weekend and both times it was useless to sing
along to any of teh verses. they weren't the same. 
regardlesss... you might be able to decipher the lyrics froma particular 
show if you want them, but no one else will be ablel to shed any light on 
any formal lyrics... sorry...
(i think [correct me if i'm wrong rick] but that the version that's in 
the lyrics file was because it was a) a lyrically kickass version of the 
song, and b) also it is from when the song was still referred to as 
'quick lay and goodbye'.  anyone? anyone?)
nebuIous@aol.com   (by the way.. nice new sig benjamin dear.. smooth..)

hm.. what else?
oh yes.
played in concerts anymore..
hm... 
i'm not sure about the rest of you..
but i saw the band twice last weekend, and best was played both nights.
then the two times i saw them in november, best was played both times..
maybe i'm not seeing tham enough.. anyone think
best _is_ getting its' fair shsare of concert-play? 
(not that that's BAD?!?! i love to hear best at a show... no complaints.. 
this was not a complaint [clare doesn't complain] this was.. oh who 
cares... [clare smiles big at everyone....how many smiles does this count 
for mr.toole? huh? huh? better than a girlscout?])

ok. i've done my time.
speaking of doing time..
did you know there's a prison in oregon that manufactures bluejeans?
yup.
their motto is, 
'made on teh inside to be worn on teh outside'
heh heh heh 

i made parole... 
i'm outta he-heeeeeeeeeee-heeeeeeee-heeeeeerrrrrrrrrrre....

clare 'could i have been holden caulfield' emily


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After the show I heard Carter say that
they were soon going to be touring with Sting or Paul Simon or both of
them, but if this is true I can not imagine that I am the only one
who has heard this and I do not know why I am the first one to
mention it.

wanted to tour with paul simon.....but that was after mike said something
about taping something with sting......mike said it would be cool....carter
said yea.....see, but then again, he didn't know they were playing a second
night with the symphony....sooo......plus, this was in birmingham, the night be
fore charlotte-----  i highly doubt they got something worked out that
particular day......
			

i suppose i wasn't clear enough because there have been several questions,

those dates were for leftover salmon and not for dmb

sorry for any confusion,

gray


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It's ok to close your eyes, as long as you can still see the sun

			

Once again i had the pleasure of seeing and taping Edwin McCain last nite.
But the crux is this, we were talking with him before the show and he 
wanted to hear my copy of his band at Browns Island (before Dave) anyways 
he came back to my house and drank some beers and played nintendo with my 
roomate......the man is hilarious!
anwyas ive rambled on about edwin before....his Watchtower rocks also...

oh yeah a new thought on the best comment. I was at the same four shows 
with Clare and heard best all four times, but when i first read the 
comment, i took it as do the really PLAy it. like whneever ive seen it 
recently, it seems uninspired and BOyd does nothing, i mean ABLSOLUTLEY 
nothign except go hey hey lala hey hey la la oh oh, etc . youknow what i 
mena. NO FIDDLE at all. 
anyways..

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oh yeah a new thought on the best comment. I was at the same four shows
with Clare and heard best all four times, but when i first read the
comment, i took it as do the really PLAy it. like whneever ive seen it

recently, it seems uninspired and BOyd does nothing, i mean ABLSOLUTLEY
nothign except go hey hey lala hey hey la la oh oh, etc . youknow what i
mena. NO FIDDLE at all.
i mean, generally i agree with you boofy, but
and in atlanta, the same thing was true.....but
in birmingham, well,.....boyd didnt rock during the somg
or anything, but he played a little, and hey hey l;alalala etc...
but...dave _really_ mumbled ...worse than ive ever heard, and
i know what the words are, and i didnt know they were the same
words....absolutely beautiful....and leroi did jam....no shit...
and stephan even danced a little......they actually seemed
happy to be playing it....reminded me of
warm kittens.... which is a feeling many dmb tunes dont elicit

			

Monkeys, gorillas, orangutans everywhere.

National geographic explorer, tonight reminded me of something that 
all work and no play makes jack a very dull boy....

Playful monkeys, running around, knowing nothing better...
happy with their existence...just playing...what a life!

Man, I gotta be a monkey...real soon!

Playing under the table like a monkey....

Shug


Apologies for the lack of dave content, but I'm sure we'll all survive.
			

david
			

The Jimi Thing single is a promo-only piece, not available for sale. The CD
version (provided by RCA directly to radio stations) is the edited version
(with the sax solo removed). There are also two cassette singles, both
featuring WWYS and Jimi (full CD version on both); one of these was given
away free in west coast stores for a breif period in December.

Anyway, the only edited version is on the radio single, which also has the
full CD version, plus All Along The Watchtower (Recently EP version) and
Christmas Song (R2T version).
			

I am fairly new to email and all that it has to offer.  I have
subscribed to quite a few band mailing lists.  I am also an avid fan
of the Dave Matthews Band.  Unlike most of you fricking jackasses, I
try not to disect every minute aspect that the band, it's fans, where
they hold their concerts, who they open for and any other part that
people who have too much time on their hands and are a little too
disgruntled can't seem to understand that a band that has a really
good sound and are quite entertaining will not stay underground
forever.  Also there shouldn't be an age limit as to who attends a
Dave Matthews Band show.... who gives a rat's ass.  So what if a
person can appreciate good music at the age of 14 or 15 instead of
finally coming around to good taste at a much more 'older' or
'mature' age.  More power to the younger generation.  Why can't you
freaks just enjoy the music... then again you are freaks so you can't
help yourself.  I really don't want to stereotype and throw out all
this negative shit but all I read off this list is a bunch of
candyasses bitching about anything and everything. I might be a
hypocrite, but in reading the lyrics from the disk let me quote from

might find your missing all of the rest.

Well, I must be going because I am starting to frighten myself... I
think Email is getting the best of me.  Quit crying, just enjoy what
this band has to offer.  I'm open for some feedback....to a point,
because I don't want to let this whole ordeal bother me more than it
apparently has.  Peace, love and collagreens.
			

Hey .... if you dont like it.....
Un fucking subscribe ok....
if you want tourdates only, sign the frekain mailing list...
if you want conversation, maybe heated, and jsut rondom cool people...
subscribe...if not go home..

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bitter, bitter, bitter.....

i've seen cops without their doughnuts who were in a better mood than you...

brw

***************************************************************************     "i am breaking the silence........." - diet grover
***************************************************************************

			

and this is irritating you?  well then theyre
not as good, imho....
thats the thing....the inho is understood...we are
people talking about whatever the fuck we want, and
its all our honest opinions....

this is as close as youre going to get to a dave.fact.net
so either stay or go....you arent going to hurt our
feelings either way.....

and you want feedback?!?!   fine...
email me personally and give me your damn
phone number....you'll get feedback...

as for the general feeling of your post.....

mail listproc@moose.uvm.edu

keith
			

enough to put it in such a nice, heart-felt message this early in the
morning.....

brw

***************************************************************************     "i am breaking the silence........." - diet grover
***************************************************************************

			

 From minarets@moose.uvm.edu Mon Jan  9 02:21 EST 1995
 
 I am fairly new to email and all that it has to offer.  I have
 subscribed to quite a few band mailing lists.  I am also an avid fan
 of the Dave Matthews Band.


 Unlike most of you fricking jackasses, I
 try not to disect every minute aspect that the band, it's fans, where
 they hold their concerts, who they open for and any other part that
 people who have too much time on their hands and are a little too
 disgruntled can't seem to understand that a band that has a really
 good sound and are quite entertaining will not stay underground
 forever.

Man, talk about a run-on sentence...just exhale, you'll get rid of hot
air much faster.

 Dave Matthews Band show.... who gives a rat's ass.  So what if a
 person can appreciate good music at the age of 14 or 15 instead of
 finally coming around to good taste at a much more 'older' or
 'mature' age.  More power to the younger generation.  Why can't you
 freaks just enjoy the music... then again you are freaks so you can't
 help yourself.

First off, there's NOT an age limit on the shows, it's just that it sometimes
gets annoying when the little kids start moshing and running into people who
came to "enjoy the music", not wrestle.   Secondly, you obviously have a very
broad definition of "freak"...who are you to call anyone a freak...go join the 
KKK or something, I hear they share the same feelings toward "freaks" as you.

 this negative shit but all I read off this list is a bunch of
 candyasses bitching about anything and everything. I might be a
 hypocrite, but in reading the lyrics from the disk let me quote from
 
 	And if you hold on tight to what you think is your thing, you
 might find your missing all of the rest.


Actually, this quote, help me out minaretters(spelling) if I'm wrong, seems
to be referring to narrow-mindedness...how it can keep you from seeing what's 
really out there...or something like that (sorry, guys, it's early).  anyway, 
you're right, you ARE a hypocrite...calling people freaks who you don't even
know hardly qualifies you as OPEN-MINDED.  Go rent a video on monkeys or
some form of primate that leads a very active lifestyle...soon you'll find
yourself smiling and you'll probably find it in yourself to make an apology
to everyone on this net, who, because they are open-minded, will accept, and
go about their merry way, like happy little monkeys.

Coffee, smokes, yawns, and happy monkey thoughts...

Shug



 Well, I must be going because I am starting to frighten myself... I
 think Email is getting the best of me.  Quit crying, just enjoy what
 this band has to offer.  I'm open for some feedback....to a point,
 because I don't want to let this whole ordeal bother me more than it
 apparently has.  Peace, love and collagreens.
 

			

Well, well, well... if this net hasn't become bitter.  I'm not talking 
about any particular people either.  First off, I could say that I've 
been on this net longer than most of you have been in college, but then, 
that would call for all of you to proceed to bitch me out, telling me 
that there`s nothing wrong with new fans, etc. ,etc...  Well you're 
perfectly right.  There is nothing wrong.  The more the merrier.  I mean, 
what the fuck was that comment about that guy calling us freaks and 
someone replying that he should go join the KKK???  If you all would 
bother using, oh, context clues maybe you wouldn't be so quick in yanking 
a random word out of someone's post and bashing them. Sure he used the 
word freaks, I think I'm intelligent to figure out what he meant.  Jeez, 
people say things when they're blowing off steam.  And also this teeny 
bopper thing has gotten way out of line.  It's not a question of age.  
Period.  I know plenty of college kids and graduates that are moshing 
fuckups, for lack of a more appropriate term.  And yes, some of our 
younger friends do that too.  Let's just say they are concert etiquette 
impaired.  Too many trips to Lollapalooza if you ask me.  Anyway, I'm 
sure many of you would like to make some big nasty comment on something 
I said, take it way out of context, andmake yourself look like a badass, 
but please direct these comments to me, personally.  Please spare the 
rest of the net from this bullshit, and have some respect for others.For 
some (that was SOME, not ALL, got it?) of you, these keyboards offer you 
some twisted sense of power, huh? Probably if you had met the person that 
you are currently yelling at at some Dave show a year or two ago, you all 
would be talking about that really cool show way back when, deciding when 
to trade tapes, and telling drunken tales of hanging out with Carter and 
the boys last New Year's eve, but I digress.  I've said enough.  
Sometimes it's really disconcerting to see how cruel people can be.  Oh, 
and for those of you that think this was directed toward or originated 
from a particular persons post, you are right.  About 100 or so since 
about spring of `94.  Later.
Katharine Adams
kadams@wlu.edu
P.S.  I hope that alll of you that have been ablu to see the band since 
Nov. (poor me) have been enjoying yourselves.  I'm living vicariously 
through you and your comments.  Anyone know when there coming back 
this-a-way?  
			

Olah,
into what i hoped it wouldn't.  Excluding people on net, and others that listen
to the music because it emtionally moves them. I'm just afraid that DMB if
turnoing into a fad. Got i hate to fuckin; say it but it's true.  I have not
been to a show since the video came out but i suspect it is even worse, now.
Everywhere i go people say cool hat(DMB tobogan hat), and say that video's
awesome.  I hate to sound like i'm better than them, but they have no idea what
the music is about and act like die hard fans. Fuck i know i sound like i'm
back talking but my concern is toward the overall enjoyment of the music for
the fans as well as the band. If i was Dave i'd flip if people started moshing.
Grow up, and enjoy. In a sense i feel to blame because i ayways told people
about DMB when they had a small following and now it is,(atleast for me) to
much of a following.  Can anyone say influence of RCA and BIG BUSINESS. So to
help i no longer tell people about the band. Hell it might do nothing, and it
might be top late. I just want it to be back to the way it was a few years ago.
And KIETH if you are reading i'm one of those fraternity guys who as in your
words "turning it into a frat. party."   NOT.
Well we all knew this was going to happen, DMB is to good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
			

please.
thanks.
tim
			

My absolute favorite DMB song right now is Say Goodbye which I have on a 
boot from the Fox Theatre show in April (I think.  Don't have the tape on 
me).  Is this available on an album or are there any plans to include it 
someday?  


At our local K-Mart, they have this thing where you can push a button and 
watch a 30 second clip from a video or film.  The selection varies from 
month to month.  When I was there yesterday, they had a video clip from 
"What Would You Say" right there between Des'ree and Boys II Men.  Weird.


Lastly, I want to apologize for helping to fuel the great age debate.  I 
took things out of context and was generally bad.  Sorry.

Peace to everyone,

Mel
magar@knox.edu

			

or reason has changed since it's beginning?  i know i don't have the first time  
it was played but i do know i have  a copy of it in it's beginning form....dave  
plays it solo opening on 1.19.93.  at the end of the song he says something  
like, "i don't know that one either" or something like that.  The lyrics to  
that version and 3.23.93 or pretty similar but when you compare them to a more  
recent version, say the cd, they are worlds apart.  Come to think of it, there  
aren't many of the same words in the 1.19 or 3.23 version and the cd version at  
all.  i only have 5 or 6 versions of the song so i can't follow it's  
transformation too well, but i was wondering if there was a middle version  
between these 2 that i've mentioned...or even a version that was different  
before 1.19.93.
winter, between, i think it was rick and spice...if i am wrong i  
apologize....but i do remember part of it had to do with rhyme or reason,  
wasn't it?  i know there was more to it but i thought rhyme or reason was in  
their somewhere....
			

when did after her "turn into" satelite?
			

Boy oh boy, all this nasty talk makes me think I am still on Phish.net or 
something!  I agree that there is some serious potential for things to 
get ugly at Dave shows, moshing, kids yelling, too many kids in general 
(if you think that is a problem), etc.  But, alas, there is still hope.  
For all of you people at NYE did you get harrased by hundreds of cops 
after the show, just cuz you were there.  Well I was at Phish, and for no 
good reason.  Things could and might be a hell of a lot worse.  I think 
we just need to keep calm level heads about this and try and work things 
out.  But then again I used to think that way about Phish too :-(

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.

			

TIM REYNOLDS IS TAKING TR3 ON THE ROAD!!!!!!


1/11/95 @ Ziggy's in W-S, NC
1/12/95 @ THe Raven & Crow (Have no Idea Where this is..HELP!)
1/20/95 @ Miller's in C'Ville (The birthplace of DMB!!!)
1/21/95  "      "       "     "



See you there!
			

I am a big fan of DMB, but I have never been to a show(how embarrassing!).
Anyway, I was just curious, what song would people mosh to at a Dave
show?  I guess moshing can be a tad annoying if you're groovin' to
a tune and someone puts their size 12s in your butt.  I remember when
I was at the Univ. of Pittsburgh, they had this band that we used to
see all of the time called "The Affordable Floors."  People used to
mosh to one of their songs called "Wedding Ring," and we used to run
for the hills.  One time a waitress was caught just as the song started
and ended up in the middle of a feeding frenzy.  Man, it was ugly.
Here's hoping there are some considerate, sensitive moshers out there.
How about the highland fling instead?

Out of the farmland and into the grid,

Adam


			

To all who were offended (especially the person I flamed),

I apologize for the rash outburst earlier today, all that shit about KKK and 
whatever else (I'm sure all of you remember that post) was a bunch of early-
morning frustration that had built up from a long night of programming...
sorry folks, i'm a schmuck....and sorry to the person whose message I ripped,
if you could, please, forgive I would be eternally grateful.  I've been
on this net for some time (not as long as some others, granted) and I've 
never felt the need to(or saw the point in) flaming someone for their opinion.
I still don't, I'm not sure why I did it...but anyway, I was bad :-(

I'll be good from now on   :-), I promise.

Hiding under the table,
Shug
			

predictable actually, as a feeling of deja vu comes over me.  I've been on the
Spin Doctors net since late 1991 and with the rise of a cool jamming 
obscure band to pop stardom (DMB;s not quite there yet), I've heard and seen 
the same thing. 
acoustic sets, wait a year or so for the dust to settle when the newbie band
wagon people jump off,failing to realize that there is much more to DMB than
Satellite and Ants, just as there is a lot more to the Docs than Two Princes 
and Lil Miss. Look at the Docs now, back doing a club tour with Rusted Root,
off MTV, and a sophomore album that has "only" sold 500,000 copies.     
the situations of DMB to SD, but as seeing this happen to both bands, 
many similarites exist, although I'm sure people will be quick to point out
the differences...Just a thought

Waiting for Dave to come the sun...
Brian
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I'm sorry if this has been asked before but I was unsubcribed over break
so as not to get swamped, but could someone email me the New Years Eve 
setlist.  Much appreciated.

			

 
 TIM REYNOLDS IS TAKING TR3 ON THE ROAD!!!!!!
 
 
 1/11/95 @ Ziggy's in W-S, NC
 1/12/95 @ THe Raven & Crow (Have no Idea Where this is..HELP!)
 1/20/95 @ Miller's in C'Ville (The birthplace of DMB!!!)
 1/21/95  "      "       "     "
 

the raven and the crown is here in lexington --see ya there!!!
tjp
			

to all that may be interested in seeing dave on tv, he is supposed to be 
doing a walk on on vh1 (darcy's music, or something)

the walk on was supposed to be today so i would suspect it would be aired 
tonight.

might be worth checking out.

gray


--
It's ok to close your eyes, as long as you can still see the sun

			

She will be playing in lexington at the raven & crown this tues at 9:30

also tr3 (tim reynolds kick ass jazz gig) will be there thurs night

I'll see you all there..at least at the tr3 show - i have a radio program 
to do tues night tune in if you can..


"I don't do          *T.J. Palvino**********   at a dollar bill,man? There's
drugs- I am drugs."  *p.o. box 131 *********   some spooky stuff going on in
-Dali                *Lexington VA 24450****   there, and its GREEN too!!"

			

As previously stated but to add to it...

At the Raven and Crown in Lexington Va...
which is a small basement type pub....the bands will take up 1/4 of the 
space...
Jan 10 Shannon Worrell and friends...ie when i tlaked to her on NYE at 
the marriot, she said it would be her and some other chicks, doing what 
she called a "fun garage type band thing"
Jan 12 Tim and TR3.....tim usually plays here solo, but if someone has 
said TR3 will be there, then all more the better....
Jan 10 me and clare emil and emily a in the audience at shannon worrell
heheheheh
anyways....

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I've been trying to unsubscribe, but I cannot do it.  This is what
I've been doing, tell me if it's wrong..


Unsubscribe Minarets



If this is wrong, someone please tell me.  I'm sick and tired of
everyone bitching and moaning about every little thing.  And also
that one letter that started all of the flames is a guy from my
school.  In some ways he is totally right!  As a matter of fact, in
most ways he was totally right!

			

I'm looking to get together with other guitarists in the DC area who 
would like to get together for some laid back jamming.  Right now the 
music I listen to & play the most- Phish, DMB, G.Love & Special Sauce, 
& Nirvana.


Jim DiNatale

			

Hey there all - 
UTTAD.  I saw its cover on one of those pages of "stamps" they send to new
people to seduce them into becoming members.  I'm sure you all know those
10 for the price one deals.  Well anyway, just thought I'd tell you it's 
not often I like their new material - It'd make me sign up if I didn't 
have the album yet.



			

hey all, i finally figured out how to use ftp (hurray!) but now dont know 
what software i need to listen to the sounds and view the pictures.. i 
have a powermac 6100/60   can anyone point me in the right direction?
thanks.
Kristin


			

HEY guys, I am still here, just chillin' with a few new tapes...what is
all this _shit_ I see in our digests?  From some guy telling _US_ to quit
bitching-I live in Missouri(yes, there is more than farms here) and am so
psyched when I see a new little tidbit on our band or someone who mentions
a new(or just improved) part of a song.  Maybe alot of you will think it is 
uncool, but I suggest we just drop this topic-it is obviously another one
of those BORED people who _LOVE_ pissing other people off!  Give him hell 
and ignore him...if it happens again, lets _ALL_ send a copy of the lyrics
file to his mailbox, along with the FAQ, maybe even throw in the Dead lyrics
file-you know....until he wont be able to login?  Just ignore him, if he 
still doesn't get it, LETS BOMB HIS ASS!  Sorry to all you guys who are 
pacifists-but this is so uncool(not to mention simply DUMB).
What do you guys think-we could all get together if it happens again-but
chances are he wont read all of our bitching at him, unless it is private
mail.  In a nutshell, let's keep the net free of bitching, and FULL of our
little disecting of each and every aspect of the band.  
This was just my two-make any flames constructive(please).
Thomas

			

I just obtained twenty five new Mother Hips tunes which are studio 
outtakes all of which are unreleased.  Of friend of mine is close to the 
band and somehow got a hold of the material.  For those back east who 
might be unfamiliar with the Mother Hips, they are definitely the coolest 
band out her in northern California.  They hail from Chico, Ca. and their 
self produced cd is to be released nationwide on Feb. 14.  You may be 
aware of the band through AWARE which sets up booths at the HORDE shows 
and pushes bands like DMB, Jackopierce, etc.  If anyone is interested 
write me back and we can work some kind of trade, if not when presented 
the opportunity check out the Mother Hips you will definitely enjoy 
them.  
			

 hey all, i finally figured out how to use ftp (hurray!) but now dont know 
 what software i need to listen to the sounds and view the pictures.. i 
 have a powermac 6100/60   can anyone point me in the right direction?
YES....you send me your powermac, and ill send you my outdated LCII..
no just kidding....
you will need JPEGview or some other picture viewer to look at the gifs..
these should be available somewhere to ftp, although i dont know where..
to hear the sounds you need SoundMaster..which is available at netspace.org.
if you access the sounds through the html page
did and its a great little program. JPEGview is realatively easy to find 
i think....check on school macs, thats where i get alot of neato programs.

I know Ben Tanen can tell us what netspace has. check /pub/software (i 
think) next time you ftp....
Chris (i spent two weeks figureing out ftp and http during exams) Buford
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as to all the recent bickering.....my arms _can_ reach around the country
and if anyone continues with anger i _will_ show up at your doorstep and 
hug you till you giggle or toot. :)
yep, i said toot

jeez that's a pretty big hug eh?

i've asked this before but i'll ask again.
anyone know what harmonica peter is playing on so much to say?

has anyone's power gone out so that the blinking time is the correct time?
does that mean that my alarm went out exactly at 12?
boy i'm confused.

a smile from clare vs. a smile from a girlscout?
hmmmmmmmmm
clare, that girlscout was pretty darn cute.....heh heh

oh, i still haven't seen the video yet but my granny says she has.  i 
think she's just trying to spite me because i won't take her to a show.
and she's dying to hear the song named after her.....:)

really tight hugs and really messy lollipop goo in my beard

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