minarets.net Mailing Archive (page 17)

can someone please send me the moast complete and most recent DMB chords 
file (ben isn't this your department?)

I mean ASAP.


Interesting news coming tomorrow.

--Ben

			

This morning I went a bee boppin down to the store to see if by any 
stretch of my wild imagination they had the new DMB CD.  I live in 
Duluth, Minnesota, hardly the hot spot for music.  Only by pure chance 
did my friend spot r2t at a Best Buy, lodged in the Ian Matthews 
section.  Well, go to this store to see if they would get the new one and 
when.  When I got to the counter I saw 2 DMB sticker and 2 brouchers!  I 
just about shit!  Has anyone else seen this broucher about the band?  It 
says "The band people are talking about." on the cover and is a big b/w 
close up of Dave's face.  It's 6 pages long and has pictures of all the 
band members inside (it looks like they may have computer scanned the 
inside cover pictures of r2t).  Along with the pictures are quotes from 
varoius papers and people about how cool the band is, then on the last 
page it gives a bio about how the band got together and what they are 
like etc.  It tells about the other CD's and the upcoming one due out 
soon.  If there is enough demand I can type out to the net exactly what 
the pages say.  I was just wondering if this was something that others 
have seen or not.  Let me know what you all think, it's pretty cool!

By the way, I didn't find the new CD, nor had anyone workind there ever 
heard of the band.  I'll just have to wait.  Hopefully I can find it 
soon!  It will be mine.

John Pederson


			

Speaking of the 2-22 show, this was my birthday,
so I'd like a copy P-)  Anyone out there willing to
make one for me, if I provide tapes?

John

			

I have a suggestion for the list admins..  lately, there have been an awful
lot of requests here and there and everywhere to the effect of 'when is
dmb/bt/whomever playing near me?'.  I assume these mainly come from more-or-
less newcomers, who either don't have the right info at their feet and are a
bit too new (or lazy) to be able to look it up for themselves.

I think that along with the introductory message to new subscribers, a recent
copy of the upcoming dates file should be included too, if not already.

Also, I think this was brought up before the summer, and this has happened
recently on the bt net with their new album, & I'm sure it will on dmb soon,
but is anyone sending letters to the people who are a bit mis-informed about
the nets?  (ie - Hey guys, I love your new album.  Please put me on your
mailing list as... and when are you coming to New Zealand??)  It would be
nice to nicely tell these people (& the ones who try to subscribe to the main
list) what the real story is...

these nets are some of the most beautiful things to cross this highway.

brett

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Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu
I have one great fear in my heart, that one day when they [the whites of
South Africa] have turned to loving, they will find we [the blacks] are
turned to hating.        - Alan Paton, "Cry, The Beloved Country", 1948

			

 I think that along with the introductory message to new subscribers, a recent
 copy of the upcoming dates file should be included too, if not already.

good idea, however, it would require continually updating the welcome 
message everytime a new date was added...rather what i've been doing is 
sending all the tour dates to anyone who poses such a question.

 Also, I think this was brought up before the summer, and this has happened
 recently on the bt net with their new album, & I'm sure it will on dmb soon,
 but is anyone sending letters to the people who are a bit mis-informed about
 the nets?  (ie - Hey guys, I love your new album.  Please put me on your
 mailing list as... and when are you coming to New Zealand??)  It would be
 nice to nicely tell these people (& the ones who try to subscribe to the main
 list) what the real story is...

i try to take care of some of these but i don't always have the time, 
energy or patience to inform everyone...hopefully the welcome message and 
FAQ are doing their jobs....

alex crothers
			

As many of you know who get the BT letters, there has been a topic on music
to cheese by.  Best Part was nominated by some BT fans.  I want to do a
survey for a week to see what is in fact the best cheese music. Send me
PERSONAL email with your fav's rated on 1-10  where 1 is "bad idea" and 10
can be a "home run" shall we say... and I'll compile the relative
probabilities of an enjoyable cheese with given music.  I'll run this for
about a week after which I'll send in a compiled list to the samples,
minarets, bt, and horde lists.

Hope you have fun, and I'm ready.  

this stuff. Also, "Mr. Chairman, I move that any and all Harry Connick, Jr.
be removed from consideration"  Just kidding, this can be anything you like
to cheese to.  I didn't say hook up to, whatever that means in colloquial
What tugs at the heart strings?

blades of 50 men/ His heart and soul would drive them back/ for the chance to
see Roxanne's eyes light up the sky again." from Sweet Pain on_Travelers & 
Thieves_.   

Or

Best Part, or others.  

PERSONAL EMAIL ONLY

Look forward to reading your responses. And any band is fair game.

Do me a favor if you will and mark your replies in the subject header somehow
indicating that this is a repsonse to the survey. thanks peace, and may the
soulfish be with you.-Will
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RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
"I hear music from your window, but you're not at home. You're a thousand miles
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the 2 shows mike was looking for names for are 1-19-93 and 3-23-93 (peter's
last show)
the 2001--ants is 3-23
llater, kerry

			

Point 1:

Like a bad disease, it appears another few CDs are coming out on Dave
Matthews Typical Tuesday (ugh)... the most notable of which would be God
Street Wine, a band I personally can not stand ('hey, lets sing about *BABES*
and play boring songs underneath!'), but who are a gosh-darn clove-smokin
tree-huggin hippie tye-die-up-the-ass band and I'm sure there are at least 3
or 4 (or 20?) crossover fans out there who this interests. Oh, wait, you
probably already knew. Oh well.

Point 2:

Someone posted on Phish.net about a pretty cool record store up here in NYC
called Venus Records on the
formerly-cool-but-now-just-corporate-hell-wanna-be-punk-place-replete-with-its
-own-Gap St. Marks Place that had and was selling the new cd.
Well, after a few moments of happiness I decided, darn it, who cares, the CD
is coming out on Tuesday.  This is interesting because the guy posting was
talking about how he got the new GSW disc (as prev. stated coming out the
27th too), and my friend got the new BT album a week before it came out at
the same store.

Point 3:

Go out and get the new Liz Phair CD.

Oh, and keep the transcriptions coming.  The next mailing will have some new
ones, but we aren't all the way there yet (major hints thrown at the knight
in shining beer).

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************

			

what's up with the dmb.  will dave be in Portland soon?

			

subscribe minarets@moose.uvm.edu mavelasq@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
			

i don't know the exact date, but it was sometime this spring that Dave 
played in Knoxville.....

a tape of it...

the only detail i know of the show is that it contained a tremendous say 
goodbye....


.........i'd really like to get ahold of this tape...

alex crothers		


			

Today's Marquee (an insert in Charlottesville, VA's Daily
Progress, referred to locally as The Regress) has dave singing
and playing on front, and an article (p3 contd on p19) called
"Dave Matthews Band is no longer `Dreaming'." Author = Mary Alice
Blackwell. (is she on this net?)

I'll transcribe it this evening (have to go teach a class now),

The launch party will be at Crossroads _and_ Max (this is on
recent flyers as well)
Tickets for the Crossroads portion sold out in four hours.
Lauch party attendees will receive the CD insert at the door to
have signed and will get the actual CD at midnight (four
locations).
Includes discussions with Boyd and Dave.
Calls _Remember Two Things_  "RTT" instead of "R2T" :(
RTT/R2T/whatever has sold over 100,000 copies.
From Good Homes will open the amphitheatre show.
Regarding first show (at Eastern Standard in 1991), Dave says,
"The guy who had the idea for us to play there got the shaft."
Anyone know who that was, or how it was that he got shafted?
(Pete? someone else?)
UTTAD produced by Steve Lillywhite, who produced albums for U2
and Peter Gabriel.
Only repeats from R2T are Satellite and Ants, and they're studio
versions (vs. R2T's live versions.)
Also incudes BOWA and 34.
Limited tickets for Lauch Party still available; call Plan 9 at
(804) 979-9999 or the band's management's ticket phone charge
number, 1-800-594-TIXX.
For info on amphitheatre show, call 594-8499.

Cya
Ellis

-- 
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File

			

Are Rusted Root and DMB touring in November together?  Is there an
updated list of dates available?  I saw a Rusted Root schedule that
listed some November dates and it indicated they would be with RR.
I'm particularly interested in the listings for Missouri during
that time frame (if there are any).

klong
			

first of all, to anyone and everyone on the original lyrics mailing list,
i lied.  there will be one more mailing, as the lyrics file has metamorphosed
into something beautiful and flittery (like a butterfly;).  actually, 
i've just split it up into 3 parts, including the lyrics to uttad, as
published.  expect to see it on monday, just in time to go pick up the
cd.  this is also going to people who have recently requested the file.


second of all, the faq is currently in bad shape, so if your waiting for
that as well, be patient.  i'm trying to make it look like remember two
things isn't due out in about a month (which is the way it's been
reading for quite some time).  problem being is that i have two jobs,
15 hours of classes, and i'm a manager at the campus station, so in
an effort to free up some more space in my brain, i deleted the term
"free-time" from my vocabulary so that i wouldn't have to worry about
it.

third of all, on that tape where drive in, drive out was debuted, dave
actually calls it 'smelly shoes.'  that's one of those shows that could
readily be id'd by dave talk if we got a setlist file going.


that's all.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
__________________________________     \_________________________________
			

In preparing the setlist file and listening to the 94 tapes, I decided to 
compile this list in hopes of creating some discusion on here.  I also 
thought that with school having just started again, alot of newbies on 
here may not have ANY idea what some of the hot recent shows are.  So 
here goes...

I'm only listing shows I was at and taped myself...but by all means, 
review some of your own.

2/10/94 Ziggys Winston-Salem NC I,II

kinda like a small Floodzone with cooler people.  First and Second set 
open up with Seek Up and Jimi the respectivly.  'nuff said...

2/22/94 TRAX Charlotesville VA II

sets of the year.  Halloween was positively FRIGHTNING...

2/24/94 Floodzone Richmond VA II

people were outside begging for tickets...I actually saw a couple of 
people crying.  Good jams.

2/25/95 Sweetbrier College, Lynchburg VA I,II

that this was a girls school made this an enjoyable show.  Second set 
rocked.  Pay For What You Get, So Much to Say, EXODUS!!!  Did I mention 
$1 16 oz. beers?  Get this one for the strange noises that Dave makes 
between songs...they scare my cat.  LITTLE BABY!

2/26/94 The Bayou, Washington DC II

shortest.  awesome jams in the second set though.  Lie in our Graves is 
of particular interest...leroi and carter jam around groovily...

4/20/94 Virginia Horse Center, Lexinton VA Phish set II

Somewhere Over the Rainbow during Phish's set was inspired.  It brought 
back good memories of this night when I saw Phish jam it again this 
summer in Maine.

4/21/94  LJVM Colisium, Winston-Salem NC Phish encore

dropped...get this set just for the drum duet between Jon Fishman and 
Carter.

4/24/94 Van Ripers Music Festival, Nelson Co. VA I

Bruce (his last show with ARU) and it made their set interesting.

4/26/94 Towne Point Park, Norfolk VA I,II

Awesome Tripping Billies (don't catch me saying that too often...)

8/13/94 Strawberry Banks, Hampton VA I,II

Around in the first set and Nature-Recently (with both the some people 
intro and pretty pretty girl outro) in the second made this show a 
winner.  And they didn't do Ants!!!  Say Goodbye with Leroi on flute...

8/24/94 Classic Ampitheater, Richmond VA one set

Jimi I've seen this year.  Boyd plays some Baboon Farm psychedelic 
delay shit that blew me away.


well..that's it.  I would have added the Dave and Tim shows at the 
Birchmere if they had allowed taping.  Tapes of these shows do exist, 
although I believe that the one in circulation is an audiance.      

feel free to phlame me personally and please add those shows that you 
feel are hot.

taking a drink, sitting back and relaxing, and smoking my mind (hell, 
it's Friday!)
Blake

			

well, so much for that influx of newbies that we were expecting to get
from the latest newletter.  they mispelled the address.  

we are the proud members of "minaret.net"


yippee....



____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
__________________________________     \_________________________________
			

Ugh, what a crapo subject.  But it says it all.

I'd have to say I like it.  I'm not in love with it, but I wasn't in love
with the six song demo (thank you Ben #2) at first either.  There are a few
changes to songs, some for the worse.  I won't get into them, especially
since I know you crazy fuckers in Virginia will have so much to say (gawd i
kill myself with those) about YOUR band (no, he can't be my band too, hmm?
bastards! you bastards!).

satellite is too slow.
and ants is horrible.
there, i said it.


benjamino, who needs a new quote because lawdy lawd, #36 is getting tired.

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************

			

Please Subscribe me & if any tour info or hotline is available could you 
also forward that info. Thanx - Kevin

			

Howdy,
I was wondering if anyone had extra tickets to the uva show on
tuesday or the richmond (flood zone) on wed.  If so, please let
me now, i'd love to go to these shows.  I was also wondering if
anyone would be taping these shows.  If i can't get to see the
shows, i'd love copies of them.  i have some good shows to trade
for so please let me know....thanks, chad.
cag6u@virginia.edu
later.
			

Under The Table & Dreaming - Best Of Whats Around, What Would You Say (w/
Popper), Satellite, Rhyme & Reason, Typical Situation, Dancing Nancies,
Ants Marching, Lover Lay Down, Jimithing, Warehouse, Pay For What You
Get, #34

speaking of wwys with popper, does popper have his own solo along with
everyone else in the song?  (for those non-initiated bt'ers, wwys is like
crashburn.. each member solos, only it's the same solo more or less)

i think the two bands should combine wwys and crashburn.. that would be an
incredible jam.  that'd be at least 7 different instruments doing the same
solo.  wicked stuff, man.

brett

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Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu
i can hear your barefeet on the kitchen floor..  and i don't have to have
these dreams no more..   i've found someone who can pull me tight.. and
hold the insomniac all night.       - Billy Pilgrim
			

speaking of wwys with popper, does popper have his own solo along with
everyone else in the song?  (for those non-initiated bt'ers, wwys is like
crashburn.. each member solos, only it's the same solo more or less)

The CD WWYS is totally deranged... the song is MUCH shorter (I think it's
3:50 maybe that's a different song).  Anyway, the basic structure for the
verse/chorus is the same, but once it gets to solos they cut the jam WAY off
(dave doesn't even sing those impossible to understand semi-lyrics) and
basically have a little sax jam, then a 16 bar or thereabouts Popper solo.

Overall not a superb use of his talents, but once you're used to the new
'structure' (hopefully they'll only use it for the CD and still jam live)
it's actually a bit better as far as studio concerns go...

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************

			

Okay okay okay I GIVE UP YOU BASTARDS!!  I've heard too much good stuff about
drunk southerners come up with for them.  I give up.

I want a tape or two or 4 of everything.

So.

If anyone out there wants to enlighten a New Yorker (see? that's why i'm so
abrasive) about the wonder that is everything, I would be extremely elated.
odds and ends of Spin Doctors, Pearl Jam, Living Colour, the authority,
hatters, GSW (these are the two tapes I base my hatred of them off of, so I
guess they might not be so good, hmmm?)....



I stick my tongue out at you all,
Ben #2 (fine tanen, you win)


just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************

			

from the Philadelphia area.

			Penn Tapers Alliance

 Do you listen to Phish? The Dead? Dave Matthews Band? The Allman Brothers 
 Band?  The Hatters?  Widespread Panic?  Big Head Todd?  Well, read on.
 
 I'm writing to inform you that the first meeting of the Penn  
 Tapers/Traders Alliance will be held on Wednesday, Sept. 28, at 9pm in 
 the Smith-Penniman Room on the second floor of Houston Hall.
 
 I'm sending this letter to you because I either know you, or know you 
 listen to good music.  It's about time that all the people with good 
 tapes on this campus got together to meet and trade.  I hope you can make 
 it on Wed- it won't take up too much of your time.  Our inaugural meeting 
 will be an organizational session, and we'll find out what people 
 have, what people want, and possibly exchange some tapelists, so bring a 
 copy of yours if you've got one.  When the group gets going in full swing, 
 we'll also hope to be ordering blank tapes in bulk, undercutting the 
 prices of Terrapin Tapes, the Advantage Co., and your favorite music store.
 We're also going to make people aware of the shows coming to town, and 
 someone may even have an extra for you.
 
 We are trying to encourage trading and discourage grovelling, but anyone 
 who is into the music is welcome to show up.  We don't guarantee 
 anything, and if you don't want everyone to have a copy of your list, you 
 don't have to give it out.  We just think this is a worthwhile forum to 
 get those tapes you might have been looking for for a long time.
 
 Please forward this to anyone you know who might be interested in 
 coming.  If you have any questions, you can email me at the address 
 below, or call me at 417-5794, or you can contact Jeremy Zweig at 
 jzweig@sas or call him at 243-0754.  Hope to see you on Wednesday.  Enjoy 
 your weekend.
   						  Ted Kartzman
 


			

Hi everyone.

I'm in a kind of pensive mood today about the Dave Matthews Band.  Monday,
September 26, 1994 is the last day of an era for the band and all its
fans, it seems to me, and thus it's also a time for reflection and
anticipation. 

Now I know some of you folks in the Virginia area have been following the 
band for considerably longer than I have.  And perhaps, you all are 
feeling even more strange about the imminent release of the band's major 
label debut than I am.  

I hope everyone has a good day on Monday.  Stop whatever you're doing at
11 pm, go out to your local record store, and buy the album.  I'm sure
some of you will be at the Dave and friends show.  If you're not at the
show or in the Southern or Western Virginia area, you're probably going to 
have to fight
off all the Big Head Todd, God Street Wine, and REM fans in order to even
get a copy of Under The Table And Dreaming tomorrow night.  It'll be a
small price to pay though, because all around the country, and maybe even
in some other countries too, other fans of the band will be going through
exactly the same things-- Stipe-heads in the line in front of the store,
store clerks who give you a weird look when you ask for the album, and so
on.  We're all going to be out there doing it too.

Well, I've said my fill.  Enjoy (especially 'Best'-- it's intense!).

Bye for now,

Ben

P.S.: If anyone else is going to be at Tower Records Cambridge MA, drop 
me some mail and we can meet up.
			

Open letter to KMSMITH-

it appears I've blown up your account sending out the chords file.  if you
want the second part, get in touch as to when it is possible to send my
harmless little file without exploding anything else...

benjamino

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************

			

Can whomever is in charge of the chords file, please forward a copy to me...
Thanks,
emily
conjuraem@urvax.urich.edu

			

 third of all, on that tape where drive in, drive out was debuted, dave
 actually calls it 'smelly shoes.'  that's one of those shows that could
 readily be id'd by dave talk if we got a setlist file going.
 
smelly shoes---7-8-92 trax

--kerry
			

Chords file?  Yay.  I'll follow this little thread and let everybody know 
that I too would LOVE a copy of the DMB Chords file, wherever it is!  
Please send me a copy of the file!


			

Greetings all, this is a very absurd request and I know it...

I am looking for a show.  It was December of 1992 at the
Bayou in Washington DC.  It was right around Christmas, i think
right after it.  The reason I am looking for this show is that
I'm mentioned in it--Dave says right before his last song (Blood
of Our Children--Xmas song) "Wade gave me a Christmas card tody,
so this goes out to him."  

I would LOVE to get a copy of this show.  This is the second set
(I grabbed the setlist that night)
Two Step, Desperate Hours, Satellite, Dancing Nancies, Lover Lay
Down, Granny, Spotlight, Jane, Minarets, Blue Water, What Would
You Say, Blood.

I would appreciate it if anyone would let me know about this, but
like I said, it's an absurd request and I know it...


Wade
			

Do you or does anyone have DMB playing at Hammerjacks in Baltimore 
Maryland.  It was in late July.  It was a great show.  I'd be interested 
in getting a copy.

Vince
			

well even up here in beautiful vermont with the leaves in peak foliage i 
heard on the radio, "And on September 27th be the first to own REM's new 
album, 'Monster.'  Also check out Big Head Todd's new album due out on 
the same date along with the Dave Matthews Band new release, 'Under the 
Table and Dream.'

surprising that Dave Matthews has promotion even up here in Burlington, 
VT were they've only played once.

not surprising that they mangled the title.....

alex crothers		


			

question- does anyone have a decent copy of the show this past summer at
the Bottle and Cork in Dewey Beach, De. ? It was a great show at a very
fun venue- kind of reminiscent of Dave's days back at the flood zone in
Richmond- no advance tickets needed, small place, etc.

also, if anyone has any DMB tapes from 1991 or 92 (esp. W/ the maker),
i will gladly be willing to put up a fair trade- I have about 15 hours
of dave on tape. please e-mail me personally if you want to respond to 
this request.

thanks,

rich
			

I seem to remember at HORDE a month ago a tune called 'American Music' (if my
lawn seat hearing wasn't that bad) - anyone hear of it - he said it was going
to be on the new album. It was a tune I'd never heard before. Anyone else go
to GSAC Horde and hear that tune? Am I that far off?

Brian Whitman
bwhitman@aol.com



			

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico and Ooodz, 2-3:30 Sunday Nights/Monday Mornings
89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago

9/26/94 (dedicated to Kerry)

Brazil Theme............Brazil Soundtrack
Dedication to Chico--Low Rider (underneathe opening schpeil)....BT 5/13/94
Aragon Ballroom, Chicago
Cavern--Wilson--Cavern--NICU..........Phish, 7/13/94 Big Birch, NY
#36..........................Dave Matthews Band  2/4/94 Athens Georgia
John Popper's Blue Screen Interpretation--
Ivory Tusk...................Blues Traveler 12/31/93 New York City
Terrapin.....................Grateful Dead
Happiness is a Warm Gun......Beatles
Top O' the hour Staion ID by Greazy Fizeek--
Manteca--Caravans...........Phish 11/4/90 Fort Collins CO
Crazy........................The Other Half (Stuudio)
Punch You in The Eye.........Phish 5/14/94 San Diego
Big House Blues..............Ren & Stimpy

Tapes MAY be availible
Thanks for all the support and kind notes

/ \

Brian

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|Northwestern University                   {    !     }  |  BL   SCR    | |
|Bobb Hall #107, 2305 Sheridan Road         ( \    / )   |    UE   EEN  | |
|Evanston, IL 60201                          ( \__/ )    ---------------- |
|Ladies and Gentleman...On Drums..Mr. Ernest Giussepe Anastasio!-Henrietta|
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Hey there all-


The DMB show @ the TLA, October 1, is sold out.  Does anyone have a few 
extras?  I'm looking for three, but if you have _any_, I'm interested.  I 
live in Philly and will be able to meet you before the show.  Have 125 HQ 
hours of Phish/Dead/DMB to sweeten the deal as well....


I'll pay face, only, but with a couple of tapes(your choice) thrown in as 
thanks.


later, dave
			

Continuing in my somewhat annoying habit of discussing more than one 
thing in a post...

1. Could everyone trading tapes with me please drop me a line to inform 
me about their progress?

2. In case you southerners don't understand the scope of what's going on 
with DMB promotion, our local record store, Cutler's, has eight full 
sized posters up advertising UTTAD. They also have a listening station 
reserved for it as of tomorrow- they have about ten stations, usually 
reserved for the ten biggest releases of the last two months. Across one 
of the posters is a sign informing shoppers that they can catch the DMB 
at Toad's Place down the street on Oct. 3 !!! (exclamation theirs). I'm a 
little frightened by the whole thing.

3. How do you all feel about this? Personally, I was pretty excited for a 
while. Finally, the public gets a chance to hear a phenomenal band, and 
all my friends won't think I'm crazy for talking about some unknown band 
like they've thought for the past year and a half. Now, however, I'm 
having some reservations, brought about mostly by the nightmarish ticket 
sales for the Phish Halloween show- any other NE types deal with this as 
well? Is this going to happen to my favorite band? Maybe I'm being 
selfish- I don't know.

4. Can you Virginia people please do something about this Ollie North 
thing? :)

Sorry for that last bit. Couldn't help it.

			

Well, while browsing the lovely merchandise catalog that came with UTTAD, 
I discovered a rare item that I found to be quite cool, a DAVE screen 
saver and sound byte disc!!!!! Whata deal for $10....obviously someone in 
merchandising is aware of us geeks here on the internet. Just kida blew 
my mind and I thought I'd toss in my 2 cents....Good luck to all at the 
stroke of midnight, I was fortunate enough to get it a few hours early...


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yeah, i've always tried to be up for the band and positive and supportive and 
i'll continue to be but i couldn't get tickets for phish's halloween show, 
either, and well... frankly, i'm pretty bitter about the whole thing for both 
bands.  

dave matthews will be huge.  watch and, by the end of the year, i'd be really 
surprised if they didn't have the album on the billboard charts.  next spring,
mtv unplugged.  by next fall, cover of rolling stone.  you think i'm kidding? 
hahaha.  actually, i'm not.  i think it'll happen.  the only reason why it 
hasn't happened *that* big to phish is because they're still a bit too weird 
and there's still a lot of anti-phish sentiment out there (god knows why or 
where it came from) so skeptical people haven't caught on.  dave matthews is 
more along the lines of edie brickell, paul simon, 10,000 maniacs, that type 
of thing.  they're more accessible, basically, and people will flock to them. 
granted, it's all good quality music but certain things are starting to 
bother me.  

*) dave hasn't written anything new in a long, long time. 

*) phish did not cover themselves with glory when they released hoist.  it's 
not a bad album, but it's the least impressive album they've ever released 
(why are the songs so short?  where are the solos?  why does it contain "if i 
could", that richard marx cover?)  okay, phlame away but seriously, i've seen 
a depressing side of popularity lately.

*) dave is not varying the setlists enough.  this is a bad habit to get into. 
i'd be really, really pissed if phish weren't still playing soooo well live.  
dave is still good live but lacks the spontaneity and creativity he once had 
(just look at the random stuff on old tapes).  

i think one bad thing of popularity is that you sometimes get afraid to be as 
creative and unique as you can be.  this leads you to do things like cut down 
songs so that they'll fit in nice little radio chunks (ugh) and cut out solo 
sections (wwys, down with disease, julius, etc.).  where did blue water go?  
and boyd's wah-wah?  and the delay section that was known once as the baboon 
farm?  things are just getting too normal, too mainstream, not true to the 
things that originally pulled me towards the band.

comments?  flame personally, if you're going to, please.  i love phish & dmb -
- they're my 2 favorites.  however, i like them enough to see their 
respective faults, too.  let's talk about this a bit more but try to be 
analytical; no emotional "they sold out, they suck!" bits.  WHY do they suck, 
HOW have they sold out, WHAT don't you like about their new studio/live 
stuff?  constructive debates are productive.

take care,
reid

ps -- i'm from virginia and i can't explain the ollie thing.  it's 
depressing.  much more depressing than what i'm depressed about with phish/
dmb, certainly...
			

I posted 4 hours ago and it hasn't come back to me yet...
Hmmmm..
sorry to clutter everyones box with this, I just wanna see if somethin's 
sckrewy, if yaknow whattI mean....

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i just picked up the disc.....interesting.....one question....where is boyd?
i know some of you have reservations about his contributions to the band, but
it seems as if he was screwed out of his solos at every opportunity......


and ants is right up there with ollie north....
it's not too likely i'll vote for either. . . . .


brian.
the man in the moon is a musician - 
			

hey whats up people....
its late.

hey coupl of personal things about the disk.....
disappointed about the lack of boyd brian mentioned.
i am pleased though with the way they used the studio.....they defintely feel
the room with stuff...boyd little background stuff (and i mean background) and
leroi doing that whole blues/jazz playalong kinda stuff.
i also feel in a yyear tops they will be HUGE. I think also that Stefan will be 
looked to as a John Paul Jones jkinda bassist. he is great....people will be
able to play it but they will wonder where it came from....if you know what i
mean.....
thats all
thanks 

rich

p.s. anyone got big head todd tapes ;)

years, I have accepted a multitude of false opinions as true, and that what
I have based on principles so ill-assured cannot be otherwise than extremely
doubtful."
			

Hi.  My name is Ben, and I'm selfish.  I like going to relatively small 
clubs and seeing live music.  After the show, I like to personally thank 
the musicians (sometimes they're just hanging around) for a good show.  
Is this selfish of me?  Yes, and frankly I hate going to Madison Square 
Garden to see concerts-- that place is for NBA basketball.

All the sudden everyone seems to think that the Dave Matthews Band is 
going to be a big popular success.  You know what?  You're right.  
Congratulations on creating a monster.

"Me?," you say.  "What did I do."  You did exactly what you think you are 
supposed to do.  I did it too, for over a year.  I told everyone I 
thought would be interested, and a lot of people who weren't interested, 
all about this band from Virginia and they're really cool and you should 
listen to this tape or come with me to the concert blah blah blah.  I 
think I did this because I want other people to like what I like.

However, I have seen the error of my ways.  I take some small partial 
responsibility for the situation in which I will find myself next 
weekend-- lots of drunk New Englanders clamoring to scream "BOYD!" all 
night long at the Avalon.  YUCK!

From now on, I will not hand things to people on a silver platter.  I saw 
this band because I went to see the Samples and there was this cool 
opening band.  Wow, they have a sax player and a violin player and they 
did Dylan's Watchtower (they were way better than the Samples, too!).  

Why am on a personal crusade to make myself miserable every time I go to 
see a band I like?

I was as expected the only one at Tower buying the album.  Free stickers.

Ants isn't TOO bad.  Dave plays with the words by coming in earlier than 
expected on "Take these . . ."  Interesting.  I'll hate the song again in 
a day or so I'm sure.

Pay For and Typical were both nice to hear.

#34 is kind of uninspired in my opinion.  Check the 3/7/93 version for a 
masterpiece.

I do not like Jimi at all.  They could do so much more.

------------------------------

I have class now.

Shh!  Get off the soapbox for once y'all and enjoy the music for yourself.

Bye for now,

Ben
			

Hullo?  Is there anyone out there?  I see posts in the digest but
no one responds to my questions.  Is the digest generated by some
AI machine with an inclination for humorous banter?  Hep me!  Puh-leeze!

Is DMB playing with Rusted Root in the month of October?  This would
be an awesome double bill that I wouldn't want to miss.  Thanks!

klong


Information is not Knowledge, Knowledge is not Wisdom, Wisdom is not Truth,


Truth is not Beauty, Beauty is not Love, Love is not Music, Music is The Best! 
			

 
 Is DMB playing with Rusted Root in the month of October?  This would
 be an awesome double bill that I wouldn't want to miss.  Thanks!

I think they're playing together on October 7 in Pittsburgh at the
Palumbo Center.  It's a record release party for Rusted Root, I believe.
I'm not sure if they have any other dates together.


Shelly

			

Now is the time when everyone's going to start complaining about how DMB 
will become big and untouchable and that we used to like when they played 
every Tuesday at Trax and that time when they played at Kappa Sig in a 
basement.  Well, sorry everyone, but those old times may be over.  Of 
course we are to blame (although I don't think blame is the right word).  
We all have to admit trying to get our less informed friends to listen to 
a few hissy bootlegs three years ago, convincing them that, "They really 
do have talent.  No, really, the acoustics in Zollman's pavillion are 
much better up front-you shouldn't have been outside drinkin' beer all 
night!"  Well, fame is good for some-it pays the bills.  Look, we'd be 
bummed if they fizzled out and some of us are bummed now.  Me, I'd like 
to think it's great what's happening to these guys.  They made it.  
A neat little tidbit of info (sorry Buford, I know you've heard this 
before) is that among the group of '93 W&L grads, there were a handfull 
of anti-Davers who were basically annoyed with all the DAVE DAVE DAVE 
hype.  In other words, they basically wouldn't give the music a try 
because the rest of us liked it so much.  Well, one friend of mine was a 
long time Green Day fan (since skateboarding days of highschool I think) 
and he and a friend got them to play at Zollman's pavillion in '93 
(January I think).  Granted, they aren't the usual Virginia music scene, 
but there were a handfull of fans there (most a group of guys from 
Baltimore that somehow heard about the show) and then a bunch of people 
who had nothing better to do on a random Thursday night.  It was fun 
except for the beer cans chucked toward the stage and the fact that 
Billie Joe (pink hair in full effect) and the boys o Green were afraid to 
play their rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama" for fear of getting the crap 
kicked out of them by ungrateful southerners.  Anyway, these same really 
nice guys that hung out in Lexington my sophomore year rocked 
Lollapalooza and Woodstock this year.  So here's my thoughtful musings of 
two cool and totally different (to say the least) bands that played at 
Zollman's in January of '93.  

I don't contribute much to the net (I just read and listen to what my 
housemate, the infamous Sir Buford has to say) so if this was kinda long, 
just think of it as my contribution for all of last year.  Some of us can 
be happy or some of us can feel sold out in a big way.  Well, have fun 
and those of you in Charlottesville enjoy the show tonight.  Oh, I'll 
close with a neat little quote from that friend of mine who loves Green 
Day.  He was at the DMB Irving Plaza show this summer (lucky guy lives in 
NY) and he wrote, "These guys are total rock stars now!" I wonder why he 
was there? Reminiscing about his days at school in Virginia I guess (I 
even think he has a Dave bootleg now).  He he, now that I've stopped 
hounding him, I think he's begginning to appreciate the DMB sound.  After 
all, he did see them play a whole bunch of times at Zollman's, Dave even 
played at their senior party, but I think he was one those people outside 
drinkin' beer.

Katharine Adams
			

on Mon vader@wam.umd.edu calmly asked

Do you or doew anyone have DMB playing at Hammerjacks in Baltimore
Maryland.  It was in late July.  It was a great show.  I'd be interested
in getting a copy.

The people working the sound board were kind of rude to me when I asked them
about it because i had equipment so I don'tknow if anyone was able to get
a tape.  It was a different show with only one set but it was the crowdest
Dave show i've ever been to, except for probably tonight.

			

Just gonna share my experiences last night at what is now
Crossroads but what turned out for me and my friend to be the
Max.  Just as Ellis had warded with his post of that tidbit from
the Daily Progress the event wound up being split into the
Crossroads venue and Max which is a smaller, younger room next
door.  So at 10:10 pm my friend and I became the first to be told
"UHhhhh, well we've run out of room so you can go in the Max now
and you'll see the same thing."  Well the bottom line is that we
didn't.  Some blues trio was playing and the rumor finally ran
around the room that Dave had played next door and wasn't going
to play here.  Pretty pissed I was until a little before 11pm
Dave walked into the room unbeknownst to 98% of the people there
(which says something about the band's level of popularity or the
fans that were there).  He went up to the bar to get a drink and
I had a chance to talk to him for a few minutes.  Some Dave words
:  They'll be touring through December then taking a month or so
break, maybe do some more shows and then get back in the studio
to hopefully release a new album in less than a year.  He said
the way the chose songs for the album was just whatever they
happened to sit down and play in the studio first and there was
no real conscious decision to include or exclude anything.
Lastly he said that he HOPED that they would get to a second
single from the album and that it would be Jimi Thing which in
his own words is "killer" on the album.  He then signed my cd
insert.  He wrote some pretty random things on mine and my
friend's inserts and I'd be interested in hearing what he may
have wrote on anyone else's if they were there and got a
signature.

"Upon my head but if" - Dave Matthews

Incredibly psyched for tonight . . . 

Dan Entin
			

 I think they're playing together on October 7 in Pittsburgh at the
 Palumbo Center.  It's a record release party for Rusted Root, I believe.
 I'm not sure if they have any other dates together.
 Shelly

Klong and other in the pittsburg area...you may want to check with the 
Palumbo as to whether or not Rusted Root will be there.

The AJ Palumbo Theatre's phone number is 412.434.6058

As of yesterday, the home office only offered Dave for that date.  
However, they've been wrong before.

alex crothers
			

  I think they're playing together on October 7 in Pittsburgh at the
  Palumbo Center.  It's a record release party for Rusted Root, I believe.
  I'm not sure if they have any other dates together.
  Shelly

 As of yesterday, the home office only offered Dave for that date.  
 However, they've been wrong before.

Dave and Rusted Root **WILL** be playing together at this date...
they will also be playing playing together in Philadelphia at the Theatre 
of Living Arts.

sorry for the confusion..

alex crothers
			

remember to call before you haul....

From Good Homes are opening for Dave at a bunch of these dates...

alex crothers		






			

for the Oct. 1 show in Phili, or knows where I could get some tickets
could you please e-mail me back.  Will do just about anything for them.
















			

Georgia Theater in Athens, Georgia on Wednesday the 28th.  If you live in 
the vicinity and have not had a chance to see them, by all means check them 
out.  If you have seen them, I know you'll be there already.
Peace,
Christopher
			

Whilst in Politics class today, I stumbled on a few thoughts about this 
whole DMB getting big thing....and some opinions on UTTAD

1)UTTAD is great because it focuses on STUDIO work, ie there is plenty of 
shit you can't do live in the studio and vice versa. I especially love 
Tim's killer fills on guitar, the man rocks

2)I would have appreciated more Boyd, but then I thought about it, and I 
don't think I would ever want a killer Blue Water solo made permanent by 
a CD. Kinda like the Seek Up lyrics, which have now kinda stayed the same..

3)I had 4 Phish discs before I saw them, and was blown away the first 
time I did by what I was told was an O.K. show (Richmond H.O.R.D.E. 
summer 93). If Phish had put all its extended jams on disc, the concerts 
would kinda be boring. Yes dave needs to spice it up a bit like the old 
days, but I'm content with a very well studio done WWYS at 4 min with 
cool things like Popper harminica and the other fill shit.

4)Also same kinda comparison with the Dead. Shakedown Street on disc os 
around 4 min. In concert it can be 20 min. 

Basically I'm saying if all CD's sounded like live shows, then we 
wouldn't get cool studio shit and there would be no point in releasing a 
live disc. If they released all the best live versions of the songs on 
UTTAD right now, I'd still go buy it....

Sorry for rambling, but hey, better than an empty mailbox.... 

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 4)Also same kinda comparison with the Dead. Shakedown Street on disc os 
 around 4 min. In concert it can be 20 min. 
 
 |Chris "Boofy" Buford

Granted, this is quite correct, but what I qould counter with is the
unfortunate reality that Dave and company haven't been anywhere near as
adventurous as the Dead or Phish or whatever when it comes to live shows
of the last year or so.  So, not only does the album contain a kind of
stock version of a song-- and this applies to lots of things, not just
WWYS of course-- but the live shows are getting more and more similar too. 
As I asked Barry in private e-mail earlier today, where has the orignality
gone? 

I think this all goes back to the essential point that we haven't heard a 
new song in FAR too long.


On the other hand, when I took the disc out of the case last night at 
about 12:45 and I looked at the picture of Dave and a kid whom I am 
assuming is his nephew, with the dedication to the memory of Dave's 
sister Anne, it all kind of hit home that maybe we should give this guy a 
lot of credit for getting up and singing songs like Lie In Our Graves 
night in and night out (I wish they did that one every night, by the way).

That is a really moving photograph, and on a level far removed from 
whether they are playing Wetlands or Roseland you've GOT to feel 
for him.

Bye for now,

QPW840YPUVBALJDBQO74  The guy formerly known as Ben Tanen
			

Just a few comments on this Christmas Day (except I was my own Santa)

about all these different songs on minarets.  Then when I would see the
band, it seemed like Dave would always take the time to introduce songs
that weren't on R2T.  Well, as luck would have it, I talked to him on the
weekend before they went to NY to record.  I asked about certain songs that
I had heard of but never heard.  He was kind of like apologetic about
sticking with similar setlists night after night - because he knew I just
know when you just get something special happening in a song, maybe the
audience doesn't even hear it, but it is faster or slower in a certain part
or someone else does a fill in a certain part, or a new groove happens, and
you just want to keep working on it..." (paraphrasing by me - run-on

some aspect (I wish they would have inclued Granny)  But just think about
what they did include.  What if they had included a bunch of "new" songs
and could only choose 3 or 4 "standards" to put on the record.  Then a lot
more people would be dissapointed...  The sound is very good, but the
dynamics will never compare to a live show - nor should they.

Okay, I'm done,
Take care everyone,
Jason T.
			

despite the complexity of that subject line, i only have two things
to say.  first, upon picking up our campus newpaper and flipping through
the pages i found an add for our local independent record store and it's
midnight madness sale.  they gave dave band billing over rem.  hee-hee.

and secondly, what's with all the friggin groveling around here these
days?  i really hate to bitch about it, because i'm sure one day i'm
going to be desparate for a hard to find tape, but something like three
posts in a row is a bit extreme.  at least it's not as bad as spreadnet
where i find interest in about every eighth post.

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"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
__________________________________     \_________________________________
			

Hola,
Toby and I were climbin the other day at this dudes garage and wala, DMB on the
radio.  I forget which track they played, but "that last one was from a hot
new band
from Colorado, the Dave Matthew's Band"  Toby funkin flipped (being from VA
and all)
and ran to find a phone book to call the station.
That's about it.  See you all in Noho,

Christian Caslin
Hampshire College Box #303
Amherst, MA 01002-5001
ccaslin@hamp.hampshire.edu
(413)-582-5812


			

a timid hello to you all. i'm not in a remotely good mood today, so i'll
apologize now for my lack of spunkiness. i've got none.

i just thought i'd add a small contribution from this remote solitary area of
va and say a coupla things.
1- i do not like having #34 on disc. many reasons, but the main one being that
2-dmb got billing before rem and all other bands here to, dear rick.
3-my musings on UTTAD (besides what i wrote above.... stop reading if you don't

be good all. any disagreements and marraige proposals directed to me...
love and light..
somebody smile for me and my three more exams this week...
then off for some nightswimming in tha atlantic.
thnx for sticking through this long-ass-motha-fuckin-post.
clare emily


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hey everybody....
forgot to include this in my earlier today post....
but i think the reason boyd is shut out a lot on the album is that in the
studio the band is very different. I think live they are a boyd dancing around
smiling making a fool of himself kinda band which makes their live shows
great..... in the studio they are a leroi and stefan master musicians kinda
band.... i think its like boofy (i think) said that the people who buy the cd
but haven't heard them live will go and be blown away......

thanks 
rich

p.s. even though rick doesn't like it i am going to ask one last time for bht
tapes.....


			

dave matthews will be huge.  watch and, by the end of the year, i'd be
really 
surprised if they didn't have the album on the billboard charts.  next
spring,
mtv unplugged.  by next fall, cover of rolling stone.  you think i'm
kidding? 

wait... MTV UNPLUGGED? How do you figure? Steffan breaks out the acoustic
bass? ;)

I know i know, it doesn't HAVE to be unplugged to be unplugged but it seems
so ridiculous to even call it that anymore.  But then, I remember from a few
years ago that when Poison (remember them? too bad.) were on, the big hair
guitarist guy actually had an ELECTRIC.  Now THAT is sad.  Maybe seeing Dave
playing electric could be fun.  Not forever like Dylan, but it could
certainly be interesting.  Once.

'needle to the vain...'

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

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Has anyone out there seen the After Dark DMB screen saver?  Should I buy
it?  Is it cool?  The new REM album sucks, IMHO.  I like UtTaD... it's fun.
Nice to hear such a well produced studio album.  When I Woke by Rusted
Root sounds real nice for a studio album, too.  I guess I could've used
more Boyd on this one, but oh well... that's their choice I guess... See
you at Toad's on Monday!


P.S.  Have a nice day.
--



			

Anyone realize yet that on the UTTAD CD song #34 is #34.. Check it out.
There's 34 tracks on the disk.  Of course, tracks 12 through 33 are empty
and track #34 is, like I said, #34.  Cool...



P.S.  Have a Nice Day
--
No Roger, No Re-Run, NO RENT!!


			

 'needle to the vain...'

Good idea.

 
 Ben
 

--Ben
			

Sept. 27
UVA Amphitheatre

Best Of
Dancin' Nancies
Warehouse
Satellite
Say Goodbye
Jimi 
Pay For
Rhyme & Reason
Lover Lay Down
Lie In Our Graves
Minarets
Recently

Anyone who has tapes of the show I am definetly interested in obtaining a
copy.

cbc3q@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
			

i hope you two are joking about these needles and veins..

remember..

since i'm feeling much more chipper...
causing the great swings of the galaxies.  the passion of love lighting the
intense energy of the stars.  the fantastic power of growth and reproduction of
all of the life forces of the worlds.  all of these forces are love.  that's
the image.  the beauty of the concept can break your heart.'

thank you evryone for allowing me to make my presence known regardless of it's
non-dmb relevance...
love and light,
clare emily

ps-'lover lay down' played last night... a longing sigh from clare...


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Hi Folks,
I just got back from tonights show.  It was tremendous.  Period.
the fellas are really tight.  I just wish there was more boyd to
enjoy.  One though that came up from a pal that was with me was
...... "He has got a firm grasp of the  obvious."

I think that is a key basis for my attraction to dave and his
sound.
whatyathink?

charlie
			

  'needle to the vain...'
 
 Good idea.
 
 hmmmmm? wha? does ben hate ben? er? i don't get it.
 

Naw.  the VAIN people.  i responded like that since I'm sure you meant to 
say needle to the vein, as in the body, but perhaps by accident you said 
vain as in vain people.

I guess there aren't any english majors out there tonight. ;-

 
 stupid,
 ben
 

ben
			

 radio.  I forget which track they played, but "that last one was from a hot
 new band
 from Colorado, the Dave Matthew's Band"  Toby funkin flipped (being from VA

This is funy, my roomate, who recently made her first post in over a 
year, has  a paper from Vail Colorado when they played, listing them from 
Charlottesville, North Carolina.....

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I usually just st hear and enjoy what all of the dmb fans have to say.  i must
admit that i am a late bloomer when it comes to becoming emphatuated with dmb.
, although i have not been able to give a full listening yet.  as i have been
l become too big for the dedicated fans to enjoy is a bit early and ultimately
wrong.  although i see freat success in their future, i do not see them steppin
g away to what has brought them to where they are today, their fans.  look and
phish, widespread, and big head todd, they have all signed major record deals,
but at the same time have tried to keep playing smaller shows,etc.   i was read
ing tonight about how phish has continued to play  awsome live shows.  Will dmb
seat theatres and playing a shorter   setlist with few encores, and they won't.
the buzz to get live tapes will still be there because nothing beats seeing
dmb live.  i don't know where this discussion has exactly lead me, but i hope
ya'll understand what i am trying to say.  dmb can make it big without us
loosing complete touch with the group.  small club shows can never be beaten,
and that is why we were there when they first started out.  anyway enjoy the
keep jamming
mark d
ps even here in the music wasteland of columbia, sc; dmb received a greater
that store.
			

  
  Ben
  
 
 --Ben
 
Bens repling to Bens replying to Bens.....
I kinda thought this was funny, maybe because its 1:00 am...
			

hey now,

I hope you all enjoyed the CD release show.  It's too bad I'm stuck out
here in the Midwest (the weather is biting big time out here) and not
in Dave's "hometown" tonight.  Anyways, I was wondering...anyone hear
anything about the rumored Halloween DMB show here at Notre Dame?
I've talked to some people here who say it's definitely going down,
but I have yet to hear any confirmation from those in the know on the net.

One part of the rumor I've heard that is that they're to play in the
ballroom here, which only holds @300 people to my knowledge. I know
that that's about the max # of people that would come see DMB out here
(we are THE musically conservative school), but I think it would kick



Anyways, I was just wondering if anyone on the net (Buford, Ellis, Clare?)
could confirm this vicious rumor and keep the suspense from killing me...

BTW, if anyone wants to ship me out a deck and some mics, I'll happily
plug into the board for you (if I can) or I'll make an audience recording.

Thanks for listening,
Dominic

PS the new disc is pretty cool.  I've been alternating between it and


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| I'd rather drink muddy water, | Dominic Jules DeVito, Necrophiliac       | 
| Sleep in a hollowed-out log,  | University of Notre Dame, South Bend, IN | 
| Than stay here in Frisco      | ddevito@darwin.cc.nd.edu                 | 
| And be treated like a dog.    | "Wake up to find out that you are the    | 
|           -"I Know You Rider" |  EYES OF THE WORLD...."                  | 
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been following DMB for about a year and a half now and have been lucky
enough to catch about a dozen or so shows.  I have only been able to
survive on Dave via the live show, R2T, Recently, and now UTTAD.  I don't
any Dave Matthews bootlegs.  I don't mean to be forward, but if any one
would be willing to make me copies of some shows I would be enternally
greatful.  I really don't have anything to offer in return other than my
undying gratitude.  I would pay for the tape and for postage.

What if anything is new on UTTAD.  I know Best, What would you, and Pay
for what are older songes, and of course Ants, Dancing, Warehouse, and
Sattelite.  Is there any new material on the new album?  From reading
today's posts it seems like the anwser is no.  If this is the case, then
what was the last new song Dave wrote.


			

Woah! Just got back from the show. Entertaining as always. Was it just me
or did it seem so short? Noticably missing from the set list was the almost
standard Two Step into Ants Marching. A few of us walked away kinda miffed
at that one. But hey, it was $10. Plus, those sissy Charlottseville noise
ordanances put a choker on the set list too. Was kinda hoping John Popper
might have showed up for the kickoff concert. Eh, it was a long shot.

'Under the Table' is key. The speculation about what was gonna be put on
there is finally over. I've been trying to push it to all my uncultured
acquaintances, most of whom are from the midwest. Ants Marching has really
been changed on this disc. Almost sounds like a new song in some parts. It
would have been interesting to see if they had done it differently in
concert as well.

As for DMB getting huge, it would be nice to see the guys get some national
attention, but at the same time, it'd be nice to keep them on a smaller
scale for a little while longer. That way they can still be 'our' DMB
before MTV and the Top 40 radio stations kill the first single with
extensive airtime.

I'll be at the Avalon show in Boston on the 8th as well. Hope it's a bit
more involved than tonight. Later jackie.

			

I went into the Spectrum at the Student Center of Syracuse U here in
the 'Cuse to get my copy of UTTAD and saw an interesting flyer at the
cashier.  Seems the SU student government is trying to get DMB to play
their auditorium which holds around 1600.  There's a petition for folks
to sign if they would support such a concert.  Tickets would be $8.

This is a huge step for the city of Syracuse.  I'm not joking.  The
one radio station here plays perhaps 1 "new" song an hour, with the
rest being "classics" such as REO Speedwagon and Bob Seegar.  The "new"
songs are ones I heard about 6 months ago in DC.  So, what is the point
of all this?  

I'd really like to see DMB here in Syracuse because maybe it would open
up the music scene a little when people see that there is a population
that would support it.  Right now, we get no bands at the small clubs.
They all go to Ithaca or Rochester-both are an hour or more away from
here.  And if the clubs start bringing in the bands, maybe the radio
stations will play more of their music (I can only hope).  It's probably
a chicken and egg sort of thing-have to have the radio play to get the
bands but it could be a step in the right direction.  (Yes, Phish is
playing here in November and it's sold out-one more indication that 
there are people here to support a music scene in this town.  Don't
ask me about the Halloween ticket scam the TM outlet here pulled....)

So, if any of you are in the area and you'd be willing to drive to SU
to see DMB, send me personal e-mail (klong@nysernet.org) and I'll take
your mail to the SU petition owners.  Please don't send mail if you 
aren't really going to be able to go. 

My apologies for the length of this post.  

klong
			

I need to unsubscribe from minarets for a little while and have been
unsuccessful with my attempts.  Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe?  What
address do I send to and what message?

Thanks much,

Neal

			

Norfolk Va.  He had a film crew with him that was shooting the show for an
upcoming music video.  Has anybody heard about the status of the video?

			

Hey,
ever played in Ohio? or b) are there going to be any more dates announced for
the fall tour??? Any info would help...
Steve
			

         14 Georgia Theatre, Athens, GA 706.353.3405

WHOA!!!!  WHEN DO TICKETS GO ON SALE!?!?!?

Sorry for yelling butthe demand for a Friday night Athens DMB show is 
going to be intense.  Does anyone have information on this?  PLEASE HELP.

 alex crothers		

Alex, maybe you can shed some light?

--Ben
			

Quick Question -

What's The best way to get Dave Mathew's Band Bootleg tapes?
Does he have a recording section at shows a la Phish?

Thanks.
			

Yes, the answer is no.  The newest song they've been playing live is most
likely #36.  They've been working on Say Goodbye a lot in the past few months,
if I remember right, he brought that one out sometime early last year, and
was only performing it by himself for a long time.

It's all starting to blur.....

John

			

 What's The best way to get Dave Mathew's Band Bootleg tapes?
 Does he have a recording section at shows a la Phish?

---as of this point, dave Matthews Band is still allowing soundboard 
patches [i'll assume, but i haven't seen/taped a show since last 
spring]....i.e.-that means there is no need for a recording section since 
you can just come out of the soundboard.  If you go to a DMB show and 
plan on taping, please be considerate.  Jeff Bagby (sp) [soundman] has a 
lot of shit to deal with every night as do all traveling soundman.  BE 
patient and don't pester.

alex crothers
			

         Just wondering after listening to the latest tour dates if DMB a) has
 ever played in Ohio? or b) are there going to be any more dates announced for
 the fall tour??? Any info would help...

i remember Dave playing Denison University last spring...that may have 
been the only time.  

fall tour dates will come sporadically.  they will be posted to minarets 
as they are confirmed.  dave matthews still have not reached 
the point of phish or similiar acts where they release a group of dates 
as a "tour," play them, take time off and then release another group of 
dates as the next "tour."

alex crothers
			

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i imagine minarets will begin seeing more requests like this.  Over the 
past week, minarets has recieved nearly 100 new subscribers. So, let's be 
patient and deal with these message as they come.  There are alot of new 
internet junkies purusing minarets these days and out-of-place posts are 
bound to happen.  


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Don't know the status of the video, but the show was in April , not June.

Gray



I'll worry when tomorrow comes.


 
 
 	This past June, DMB played a free show at Town Point Park, here in
 Norfolk Va.  He had a film crew with him that was shooting the show for an
 upcoming music video.  Has anybody heard about the status of the video?
 
 
			

He didn't know what the video would be, but it would be a live video, unlike
the old Tripping Billies video.

I had never heard nor seen the Tripping Billies video, but I heard from 2
seperate people who hadn't known about the video before they saw it that it
was on Beavis and Butthead over the summer.  I still haven't seen the video
or the Beavis and Butthead episode =(  Anyone have a copy of either? ;-)

John

			

i think the album is great.  the more i listen to it the more it grows on me. 
at first i *hated* the strings (who said boyd was missing? ha), especially on 
satellite.  "could they have used more reverb?" i asked myself.  the answer 
is no, they couldn't have possibly used more reverb on boyd's guitar and not 
much more on dave's voice but the whole album has a bit of a spacey feel to 
it which i really like.  

as a bass player i've never been impressed by stefan.  his lines are solid 
but not really very interesting at all.  they back up the band well but are 
less than creative.  well, last night i was at work listening to the album on 
a portable cd player with headphones and the bass came through loooooud and 
clear (thank you, sony megabass walkman).  for the first time, i'm very 
impressed with some of his stuff.  sounds like he might even be playing a 
fretless on the album as he does a lot of really cool slides and stuff.  
anyway, those are my brief comments.  

i'll probably sound like a sucker, but i really like #34 and ants (*gasp*) 
isn't all that bad either.  in fact, i think #34 is the best thing on the 
album...

reid\
			

if memory serves me right...  #36 has been out a while.. i remember hearing it
for the first time at the flood zone last summer with a ravage jam by oteal
after the richmond horde show... (dave on a tuesday at the fz? yes.. it's
happened)
inception...somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but i really don't think #36 is
newer... (more new?) than ye 'olde quick lay....

hugs and one more exam this week... 
clare emily

ps- excuse this extra shit at the end of my post.. my modem's got multiple
personality disorder.. whonder who it got it from?

after the richmond horde show.. (dave ona tuesday at the fz? ys#36 has
been out a LONg


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Hey,
I think, disc isn't with me right now) pre-vocals sounds like an opening to a
Doobie Brothers song????  Maybe its just me.  Not meant to be a flame or
anything, just MHO.,..
Steve
			

I have the resources available such that I can set up a DMB home page
if someone can send me information to put in it (pics, sounds, random
data, etc).
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Question Authority. Question Reality. Question Me.
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian   | source for information, you most assuredly do.
			

We've offered resources for both a home page and a public access ftp site, 
both of which we were told are not useful since apparently we're going to
be sharing resources with phish.net

John

			

MINARETS, BUT I'VE BEEN A DMB FAN FOR A WHILE AND THIS HAS OPENED UP
A WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR ME.  THE THING THAT SUCKS IS THAT I HAVE THREE
TEST THIS WEEK AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME USE THE COMPUTER OR
LISTEN TO UTTAD.  I HAVE LISTENED TO IT ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT I LIKE
ALL OF THE SONGS THAT WERE ON R2T AND RECENTLY BETTER ON THIS
ALBLUM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WAREHOUSE.  THEY REALLY SCREWED THIS ONE
UP.  THIS SONG WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED WITH DAVE AND A GUITAR AND NOT
MUCH ELSE.  I GUESS IT'S HARD, NOT TO MAKE THE SONG COMPLEX WHEN YOU
HAVE SO MANY GOOD MUSCIANS WHO ALL WANT TO ADD A LITTLE TO THE SONG.
I ALSO HAVE A FEW TRANSCRIPTIONS FOR SOME SONGS BUT I WILL NOT HAVE
TIME TO TYPE THEM THIS WEEK.  IF ANYBODY OUT THERE IS WORKING ON
DANCING NANCIES, SEND ME WHATEVER YOU HAVE, BECAUSE I ALMOST HAVE IT
BUT SOME OF IT IS MISSING.  I'VE GOT TO STUDY NOW.  SEE YOU IN
GEORGIA, I HOPE.



			

Sun will shine, no matter what I do. But it will shine brighter\
if you hook me up. yoyoyoyoyo!
			

O.k., maybe this has been discussed before or maybe no one else thought
anything of it and that it's not worth mentioning but did you notice that
#34 is track 34 on the cd?

klong
			

I agree completely with Butros Butros Smith SPICE@dickinson.edu (Reid
Spice) in his message about popularity.  Where is that (Boyd's)
WAH-WAH??!!!  I LOVE wah and I thought that it sounded cool as shit!  Also,
I really dug the delay on Dave's vocals, that was soooo cool.  Basically
because he knew exactly when not to use it!  Does no one else miss these
unique goodies??  Also, my signature has a quote from some dave mathews
show that I need an ID on.  THAT was a COOL watchtower yes siry-bob!  Who
was playing keyboards on that particular Watchtower?  Someone out there
knows no doubt.  I think that keyboard player should be a permanent member
of the band (or was it just dave playing really slow and loud?)!  That show
also had a cool story about Dave playing guitar in the streets of
Amsterdam.  That tape was the first time I heard Dave and I have been
completely hooked since then!


Walt Blackler       "That's cool!! ...if that's cool?!"  - Josh Fagen of
409 Dryden Road #1                                         TIJUANA CARAVAN
Ithaca, N.Y. 14850
607-272-8037       "When he got there he realized he had circled back around,
whb4@cornell.edu     Roundaback circle, roundaback realized!"  - PHISH

"Since I got a haircut, I don't like to smoke too much green, but now and
then I put a wig on and blow my mind away....." - Dave Mathews  ??/??/??


			

We (minarets) are indeed going to be sharing resources with Phish net, on 
a computer called netspace.students.brown.edu.  See my address, too.

As of right now, you can ftp to this machine (it is also called 
archive.phish.net and ssc.org and netspace.org and some other things 
which I forget).  Available through FTP are some cool pictures of the 
band taken in Athens GA at Superjam back in June.

Regarding a web page, I have been sort of working on one for a while but 
list have been accumulating.

I know you all can't help with the first two (short of doing school work 
for me).


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

--Ben




			

Claire,
I have an article for you that just came out in an October issue of a 
magazine.  Please forward your address to me.  Thank you.
Christopher
			

what they say is true about what they decided to record, then it's okay by
me.



tight in this song

acoustic more, but it's one of my fav's.


redundant as halloween is, it's good to see Dave and Co.'s heart again.

was on teh setlist for the disc.


#34: never heard it before, and I have to respectfully disagree with
madamoiselle claire[ sp? you frenchies correct me], I reallyy like it.  It
too will go on a mix.  I like the mixture of emotions and they way that each
of them feed off of each other.


be eternally in your debt!  .... in my first few listens, REM does indeed
suck, or at least it's not the band I grew up listening to.  maybe jangle is
indeed dead....Big Head Todd is really good, but I can't stomach taking UTTAD
out of the cd player for long enough to give it a good listen. Gotta run!
Peafce, Will
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"I hear music from your window, but you're not at home. You're a thousand miles
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On the topic of the Towne Point Park show that was videotaped in Norfolk, 
Va...please tell me if anyone knows whats happening in that, because I 
was in THE FRONT AND CENTER for that show, and I know my friends and I 
would love to know where we could see our faces, but more importantly, 
relive an INCREDIBLE show(it was a total - FREE - high)...Thanks, Carrie

			

Anybody else out there think that the beginning to song #9 (Jimi Thing
I think, disc isn't with me right now) pre-vocals sounds like an opening to
a
Doobie Brothers song???? 
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though. Listen to the Music, maybe?

Kids said, "yep. Dave's really gonna take off with this one."  Kinda scary.  
and Tim playing at the Wetlands last january.

-Dash

			

wow

the West coast and I am ecstatic that yesterday I could walk down to my
local store and pick up some DMB. Also I get to see Dave live in a couple
of months. 
around out here, so there's a contingent of fans growing in California,
too.
(I have my own theory.)

JOE
        Joe & Laura