last night was incredible, the end of an era. 'say goodbye' was great! i love carter's drumming in it. world, say hello to dmb! chad grotegut. p.s. it was even tuesday!Top Permalink
hello....can somebody please help me and tell me how to unsubsribe??!! thanks for any reply kwhite@max.muhlberg.eduTop Permalink
I have an actual set list from 2-24-93 (when peter wsa still in the band) which has #36 on it...I'd say that qualifies it as older... WadeTop Permalink
i think it was will foy who said he'd have to disagree with me and say how much he likes #34. i might've confused netland with one of my more recent posts.... i LOVE #34. it is a gorgeous, haunting, and beautiful song.. if i would allow myself to listen to it as much as i'd like, it could possibly surpass 'lover' [as all who know me have their mouths agahst at the thought...since i love 'lover' so damn much...] it is just too emotional of a song for me to listen to it often. and lord knows i'm too emotional a girl to handle listening to it too often. to all of you who have never heard #34 live, or with it's lyrics... the best is yet to come.... from the 3/17/93 version, 'oh i throw myself at your feet laughing....' god what a stunning thought.. to quote my beloved blayk kambill quoting beloved dave singing #34, clare emily ps- christopher dear.. i'm going to give you ye 'olde telephone ring.. ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
Does anybody know what time the band will actually start playing this fri. Doors open at 8. is From Good Homes playing? This is strange I don't recognize any of the old names on this net from last year. Is Eric Hesse still on board- if you are drop me a line and we can trade again seanTop Permalink
show. Everytime I call th georgia theatre I get a recording telling me who played there last night. p.s. If anyone knows how to get from the Athens exit off of I-20, to the Georgia theater,some directions would be great!Top Permalink
I saw that someone already put out the setlist for the UVA Ampitheatre show, but this was the SOUNDCHECK, which noone could tape, since Jeff was too busy to fuck with us at that point-- Soundcheck UVA Ampitheatre, 9-27-94 #34 (with improv-d lyrics) which was about 10 minutes long One Sweet World (which was on the set list to be the first song in the encore, but wasn't due to time constraints and noise ordinances) DRIVE IN, DRIVE OUT (this was just Dave and Carter, but it was phenomenal. As John can back up, I've been on Dave to play this for the past 3 months, and he finally did) In side notes, I talked to Stefan after the show, and he said that they had been working on Drive In, Drive Out, and wanted to get it back in to circulation soon. Side note #2, Dave said that he was re-writing SPOTLIGHT. He said that there were some parts of it that he absolutely loved, and some parts that he thought were just *blech*. So, I'd expect to see a revamped Spotlight soon. Songs from last night which were on the set list which weren't Typical Situation One Sweet World Jimi Thing Lie In Our Graves Upon listening to the tapes (im at Lie in our graves, now) I would have to say that so far the best song is Graves., though, I do remember Minarets being pretty damn phenomenal as well, even they didnt go into Blue Water. That's it! Adieu and Peace, WadeTop Permalink
hey guys sorry about the stupid subject but you know... just heard from my sister that dave is not playing notre dame on halloween cause.......He is going to EUROPE........ what do you think about that......weird.... thanks richTop Permalink
and also how do you get access to to ftp site for dmb and phish. c-ya p.s. the album was great except for #34Top Permalink
I have taped a few shows this year around the south. I record using a D-3 DAT deck, so the quality of the tapes are ueually good. Some shows i did Im always looking for more. ie.- SUPER JAM 94 Would love to trade. Write back to my address P.S. - the Charleston show was great. it was the first or second show after recording the album. It has a great set with most all of the new songs and the usuals like twosteppin, one sweet world, ect. Justin Sonfield S.P.O. 183 735 University Avenue Sewanee, Tn 37383-1000 (615)-598-2190Top Permalink
for those of you not digestified yet, i don't see how you can deal with some 40-50 new mail messages a day. anyway, wanted to talk about taping for dave shows. about a year ago, a freind of mine was promised that a board patch would be available forever, barring any intrusion from rca. there's one problem to universal board patches, though, and that is that there's only one patch. this means that the second person to show up plugs into the next person into the next person into the next person. what this means is that if the first person so much as changes his levels, it affects straight down the line until the last person, who gets shafted with a show that keeps fading in and out. also, if any person along the way loses the signal (such as hitting stop), then everyone below him will have a break in the tape. them. everyone hates audience tapes, but they're really not that bad. my audience tape of phish 12-28-93 is a helluva lot better than my sbd of phish 8-20-93. pretty much, if you have the equipment to make a good audience tape, and you can't get there early enough to get high up on the soundboard patch, then bring your equipment. demand for dave tapes is really skyrocketing, and your service will be well noted. (maybe if someone could start bringing a patch bay to hook the soundboard patch to...) anyway, that's all for now. i'm still working diligently on getting the lyrics file out to everyone. i've gotten over 30 requests in the past 48 hours. it used to take about 2 weeks to get that many, so be patient. i have to send them all out manually. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
I was wondering if Dave will ever play Baltimore Washington area and also how do you get access to to ftp site for dmb and phish. c-ya p.s. the album was great except for #34 see DMB, phish, and lots of other directories (most of which will be irrelevant). --BenTop Permalink
In response to Rick's post - I agree with everything except that at Irving Plaza on 7/28 there were THREE original feeds from the soundboards so there were THREE people with the first feeds and it spread out the load. I don't know how this was done, or whether it had anything to do with the particular venue. Maybe this could be done at future shows as well. Dan EntinTop Permalink
Jeff still provides a 3 way patch as far as I know. I'll worry when tomorrow comes.Top Permalink
That first little riff in Jimi Thing is vaguely reminiscient of the Doobie Brothers' "Listen to the Music." But, once you get passed the first 20 seconds of the song it is entirely different. Of course. It's Dave. I'm going to Raleigh to see the concert on Thursday night. I'll post a set list and a full report afterwards. -Ivan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ivan Snyder "If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle ivans@acpub.duke.edu us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not Duke University die? And if you wrong us do we not revenge? If Box 94132 we are like you in the rest we will resemble Durham, NC 27708 you in that." -----------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
taping scene with Dave Matthews is that you must be self-sufficient. If you plan on taping, plan on bringing everything you need. Don't expect to get patch cord, power strips, batteries, flashlights, pens, setlists, ect... from Jeff. He's got his own shit to deal with and we[the taping community] should be greatful that a soundboard patch is still available [if anyone wants a reality check, try to find another signed band that you'll need and one extra [for the guy who forgot]. enough. sorry to go off, but i worked hard and put in my $0.02 often to make sure that taping would remain available to fans. I'm extremely greatful that DMB/Jeff can still allow a soundboard patch at nearly every show--which is something that must have been a very large hassle with RCA. take care. alex crothersTop Permalink
Hey all, planning on taping the DMB show in Pittsburgh on the 8th. I've got a DAT and nice mics but would like to be able to make a soundboard if I'm lucky enough to get a patch. My question to those of you "in the know" interconnect type plug compatible? Or do I need something fancier? I'd be really greatful (i.e. free copy) to anyone that can help me out. Thanks. ************************************************************************* *************************************************************************Top Permalink
Anyone coming in to New Haven for the Toad's Place DMB show on Monday? If so, let me know, and we can arrange a meeting, and possibly a tape trade :). Anyone planning to tape this show?Top Permalink
you'll need and one extra [for the guy who forgot]. I thinks this statement is so insightful and right-on that it deserves to be repeated. thank you alex. christopherTop Permalink
subscribe minarets@moose.uvm.edu awd7u@uva.pcmail.virginia.eduTop Permalink
Newspapers, a chain of dailies outside Washington D.C. I'd like to do an article on Dave Matthews for our computer section. Why the computer section? Because it seems pretty unusual for a rock n' roll band to come out with a screen saver/sounds disk, or to have an email network for fans. The disk is in the newest catalog included in the CD cover. the D.C. suburbs -- about why this net appeals to you and why you would or would not use a screen saver/sounds disk from the Dave Matthews Band. Also, have any of you heard of any other bands coming out with a screen saver? I've heard the Grateful Dead has some dancing bears and that Aerosmith might have one, but these are much older bands with totally different styles of music. Are there email networks out there for other bands? it sometime in the next week, so hopefully it would run in the next couple of weeks. I'd be happy to file it on the net for anyone who wants to read it when it's done. liz szabo, the journal newspapers eas5e@uva.pcmail.virginia.eduTop Permalink
hello all archive.phish.net well i was haveing the same trouble my suggestion is try netspace.org it's the same sight just a diffrent name. just spreading the news mattTop Permalink
I have the resources available such that I can set up a DMB home page if someone can send me information to put in it (pics, sounds, random data, etc). We've offered resources for both a home page and a public access ftp site, both of which we were told are not useful since apparently we're going to be sharing resources with phish.net i've addressed this several times already, however, with such an influx of new subscribers, why not repeat myself... first off, a thank you to all who have offered and are involved in expanding minarets. Minarets, as with any mailing list, is based on the efforts of its subscribers. Nothing that's happen or is about to happen could have come about without the help of many individuals. Topic 1: HOME PAGE Check it out, but, like i said, its still very crude. If you have any suggestions/knowledge/ or contributions for the home page, PLEASE, PLEASE get in contact with Mike Makunas mmakunas@emerald.tufts.edu before this weekend so everything can be ironed out...he's the man. so that's that. Topic 2: FTP Site other addresses for phish.net's computer at brown. You can either FTP there or Gopher, whichever you prefer. If you FTP, log in as 'anonymous' and use your email address as your password. If you have any ideas or contributions for the FTP site, contact me[alex crothers] or Ben Tanen. As of this moment, there are only some GIF files [pictures scanned in to the computer and stored as files]. Within a few days there should be a GIF viewer and all the text files for DMB [ie-lyric, FAQ, tab, article, tour dates, ect..] i'm tired goodbye. alex crothersTop Permalink
just heard from my sister that dave is not playing notre dame on halloween cause.......He is going to EUROPE........ what do you think about that......weird.... ther are no confirmed dates yet, but Dave will most likely be headed over to Europe right before Halloween and stay for a week or two. IMHO, i don;t think its wierd at all. Afterall, Dave was charting in Prague and has a very European/International sound that i could see being accepted by many cultures. there will be a date in Amsterdam around the 2 or 3. more to come. alex crothersTop Permalink
Using anonomous and your email address does not work at teh brown ftp site if someone gets through please let me know thanxTop Permalink
not only does Jeff do 3 way patches (he has this cheapo Realistic signal splitter) but very often he'll give a digital patch. Larry got a coax patch last night and I came out of his Teac pro...maybe we should tree it from a clone of his master. peace, BlakeTop Permalink
didn't see this posted yet... 1 Set Best of Whats Around Satellite What would you Say Dancing Nancies Warehouse Say Goodbye Jimi Thing Rhyme or Reason Pay for What you Get Lie in our Graves Minarets- Typical Situation I'll Back you Up Recently (w/ some people like...pretty pretty girl) Dancing Nancies was rocked HARD. The Halloween was the second best ever and the jam into Ants was _crazy_ peace, god bless, BlakeTop Permalink
didn't see this posted yet... 1 Set Best of Whats Around Satellite What would you Say Dancing Nancies Warehouse Say Goodbye Jimi Thing Rhyme or Reason Pay for What you Get Lie in our Graves Minarets- Typical Situation I'll Back you Up Recently (w/ some people like...pretty pretty girl) Halloween- Ants Marching Dancing Nancies was rocked HARD. The Halloween was the second best ever and the jam into Ants was _crazy_ peace, god bless, Blake absolutely necessary to throw in my two cents about last night. The show was crazy, the place was jammin', everyone was cool (except for the idiots that decided to practice their boxing skills), and I was very high as well (for Clare). when a band kicks ass. The DMB certainly kicked mine last night!Top Permalink
What's the deal here? Certainly, 135 minutes is nothing to complain about, and apparently the band's been sounding great lately. But I kind of like the two set format- gives you that "halftime" to cool off, have a beer, etc. The only non- HORDE show I saw this summer- Hammerjacks- was a one-setter as well. When I spoke to Dave at the Jones Beach HORDE show Sept. 1, he told me they'd be playing two set shows during this fall "tour". I still believe him- after all, he wasn't lying about song #34 being on the album :), but what should I expect?Top Permalink
About that show last night...IF anyone\ taped it and is willing to make me a copy , I would be willing to mail them large sums of money in exchange. That Set list KICKED. I want it Bad!Top Permalink
I want on the DMB list malkus@calvin.covenant.eduTop Permalink
Tonight in Carlisle, Pennsylvania Derryberry & Alagia are playing fer free so if you're in the neighborhood, come on down. The show is at Dickinson College in our student center (the Holland Union Building) and will be fantastic. There's also free food. Carlisle is 30 minutes from Gettysburg, 2 hours from Philly, 2 hours from DC, and about 4 hours from Pittsburgh. It's right on I-81. Call if you need directions, help. D&A, for those of you who don't know, are a great acoustic duo from C-ville. John Alagia produced Remember 2 Things and Recently and sings backup vocals on UtTaD. They play a lot of Dave. Enough said, those credentials speak for themselves. If you need directions, call (717) 249-0943 and ask fer me. Reid SPICE@DICKINSON.EDUTop Permalink
hey all, being the chords file rep/type of guy, i have noticed a huge number of new people asking for it. rick commented on getting 30 requests in 2 days... i can't say my numbers are THAT high (guitar is a specialized department don't ya know), but it's getting large... so there's lots of new guys, gals, and others (bob barker is a sick sick man) so. assuming a lot of these new people don't have a ton of tapes yet, i say we tree the 9/28/94 show, and FAST. no matter how big the tree is, if we limit it to minarets, it can't be mamoth, and it will give everyone a good show to add to/begin their collection. 'needle in the rain...' inside jokes suck. especially when they aren't funny or inside. ben, master of a new sig for each post just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "I can stand brute force, but brute reason * -- Ben Sterling -- * * is quite unbearable. It is hitting below * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * the intellect." -Oscar Wilde * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
Hey y'all, I was flipping through the daily regress on sunday and there was an article about all the new CDs coming this fall. The article was written at The Baltimore Sun, and under Sept 27 there was REm and all the others. And then there was "The Dave MAtthews BAnd proves why it is the hottest unknown band in america with the release of UTTAD on Rca. Pretty crazy. Did anyone else hear about the minor wh got busted "smoking something that did not smell like a cigarette" at the VA. Amphithetar show. I'm feeling lucky considering I blazed a joint in the middle of Jimithing.Top Permalink
I'd just like to share something that I thought was neat. In R&R, at around 0:40, there's a little voice that says something like "Go see your daddy." btw, I heard a rumor that Dave & co wasn't going to be in the VA area for a _long_ time after this stint.. Can anyone lend any validity to or kill this ugly rumor? everyone who's anywhere near richmond, va should go to the Rusted Root concert at Randolph Macon in Ashland this sunday, oct 2.. it's from 6-7:30, and a price you can't beat.. free. i love you guys, brett ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brett Kingswell bmking@mail.wm.edu "turns out not where but who you're with that really matters.." Could I have been Dave Matthews?Top Permalink
I second that motion, that setlist looked incredible.Top Permalink
just heard from my sister that dave is not playing notre dame on halloween cause.......He is going to EUROPE........ what do you think about that......weird.... IMHO, i don;t think its wierd at all. Afterall, Dave was charting in Prague and has a very European/International sound that i could see being accepted by many cultures. there will be a date in Amsterdam around the 2 or 3. more to come. i only thought it was weird cause it seems to me that dave has a very american kinda sound that is fiddle sax acoustic guitar...plus i figured dave to "tour" the west coast before crossing the pond but thats just me..... richTop Permalink
Philly. The signs were out in full about the new REM album, and DMB, BHT, GSW, etc. were in fine print, but all the UtTaD's were sold out in list of tour dates has DMB opening for Rusted Root, while my ticket has From Good Homes opening for DMB. Who knows the real story? Also, now that the TLA has their soundboard attached to the ceiling, is there no way for a board patch? Any info appreciated. kaleidoscope that was playing on my eyelids. Show times at 1, 3, and 5 pm."Top Permalink
hey everybody... just wondering if anybody has a copy of 4/21/94 or 4/24/94? i heard they were really good shows and i would love a copy of them. if you can help me, please email me personally and hopefully we can work something out. thanks peace mikeTop Permalink
If anyone has a tape of one of his shows and could make me a copy I would greatly appreciate it. I am willing to send tapes. email me thanxTop Permalink
Let's not get carried away now. I'll worry when tomorrow comes. About that show last night...IF anyone\ taped it and is willing to make me a copy , I would be willing to mail them large sums of money in exchange. That Set list KICKED. I want it Bad!Top Permalink
Let's not get carried away now. you didn't hear the jam from Halloween-Ants...my head almost exploded.Top Permalink
Well, it's nice to be back on the net, and good to see some familiar names (and a whole shitload of others too - wow has this thing grew!!) In any case, I'm at Wesleyan now and looking to reconnect with any one I lost touch with while I was moving to resume trading, so if you're still out there, drop me a line. Now, some Q's...does anyone know what the band gets to do a show, money wise, trying to book some bands here and have a small budget. Also, what is on the screen saver, anyone have it? Finally, in response to the Doobie Bros thread, I have had a tape for a while now with a song called "Doobie Thing" on it. It's just a short ditty like the one that opens the Jimi on the album, I'll check the date of my tape and post it later. Once again, good to be back, Ian Ian Bassin Box 4067 Wesleyan Station Middletown, Ct 06459-4067Top Permalink
Well, it's nice to be back on the net, and good to see some familiar names (and a whole shitload of others too - wow has this thing grew!!) In any case, I'm at Wesleyan now and looking to reconnect with any one I lost touch with while I was moving to resume trading, so if you're still out there, drop me a line. Now, some Q's...does anyone know what the band gets to do a show, money wise, trying to book some bands here and have a small budget. Also, what is on the screen saver, anyone have it? Finally, in response to the Doobie Bros thread, I have had a tape for a while now with a song called "Doobie Thing" on it. It's just a short ditty like the one that opens the Jimi on the album, I'll check the date of my tape and post it later. Once again, good to be back, Ian Ian Bassin Box 4067 Wesleyan Station Middletown, Ct 06459-4067Top Permalink
okay you silly freaks... i'm so UTTERLY relieved for your inebriation status reports... be good. (like it even works when i try to enforce it...) you all have my love... everyone of you! cec 'mad? we're all mad here! i'm mad! you're mad.... WE'RE ALL MAD!' -smiley c.cat ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
Ok, speaking of new releases...I got the Big Head Todd, the God Street Wine and UTTAD all on Tuesday, and I've been listening to them non-stop and I think that UTTAD is really good, but it will never replace vintage Dave. I do like how Dave is mumbling less and so you can understand what he is saying, but in the same token, it takes away the mystique of wondering just whatt it is he said. As for BHT and GSW, I like them both alot. I think the new BHT is more upbeat than their last album, and it's based on a single theme which is a neat touch. As for GSW's latest, I'm really quite impressed. This is their first CD on a major label (Geffen), and they recorded in a studio (their last CD was live), and so in a lot of ways the transitions in their songs are similar to what DMB went through with the release of UTTAD. So, I would get the BHT and GSW CD's if you don't already have 'em. And I'd like to know how good the new REM one is... SueTop Permalink
okay you silly freaks... me? a freak? i'm so UTTERLY relieved for your inebriation status reports... [clare emily gives a grateful curtsey and respectfully extends her ass for kissing]. tempting... be good. (like it even works when i try to enforce it...) no, no, no....be SAFE...no one ever had any fun being GOOD... sorry for this complete waste of bandwidth. growing out (thank gawd...) drugs drugs drugs...and blocks of green and orange wood, your child of the universe, BlakeTop Permalink
#1 Who is Anne? Just curious #2 Is anyone willing to send me tapes? Any good show - it doesn't matter. I have only one (yes I am new at this) The one I have is last New Years Eve. Also - a response to the Doobie Bros. question - my roomate is convinced that it is the Bee Gees. She is not sure why she thinks that though. Please e-mail me back about the tapes.Top Permalink
I am very interested in the Floodzone show tapes. If a tree does get formed for distributing tapes of it, place me on it. I have many friends here at Virginia Tech and abroad that have tapes and we are very interested in getting more and distributing the few we have. Thanks and the album release party at The Crossroads was pretty good. Take it easy and God bless. Scott Miller- "The neon lights they glow so bright on Broadway!"Top Permalink
#1 Who is Anne? Just curious Anne was Dave's sister. She was killed by her husband, who then turned the gun on himself, leaving two orphaned children. tragedy... peace, BlakeTop Permalink
anne was dave's older sister. she was killed (in jan or feb, i think) while dmb was doing colorado tours with the samples. i care not to elaborate on the curcumstances of her death. it's a painful story. regardless, the child in dave's arms on the back of teh cd is one of her children (both of who were orphaned after she and her husband's death) whis ensued in s africa. love one another. let your souls soar---------------------- cec ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
Does anyone know if Rusted Root allows board patches? I'll worry when tomorrow comes.Top Permalink
some DMB, some Traveler and a whole lotta phish. Email me if yer interested, I'll send ya a tape list. Bye! DanTop Permalink
new album "Three Wishes". According to the flyer Dave, Leroi, and Tim Reynolds all play on the album. I am tempted to send in my 14.50 for the album, but being a college student... 14.50 is pretty hard to come by. I am not familiar with Worrell's music. Has anyone heard her or her album? Should I get "Three Wishes", or spend the money buying groceries for the next week.Top Permalink
provided the blank tapes and the postage. I accidentally erased your addres I know I'm a moron. Could you please mail me your address again.Top Permalink
The Shannon Worrell album blew me away... Some woman from channel 29 was interviewing Dave on the UVa ampitheatre after that awesome soundcheck. She told him to please try to give full answers to questions, and not just answer with yes or no. To which he replied (more or less): "How does it feel to have your first major label release out? Anyway, Carter couldn't stop going on about his new drum set... I had to admit it kicks pretty hard. The soundcheck at the ampitheatre was the first time he'd gotten to play it... Anyway, on spotlight, everything Wade said was quite correct, but I don't expect he'll get around to rewriting it soon (much to my dismay), mainly because it's been gone a looong time, people have been saying he's planning on redoing it for a while, and basically because he didn't seem to be in so much of a hurry to revamp it. JohnTop Permalink
I talked to Kristen Asbury tonight, and happened to mention the Peter thing and a few sgs, and we got into a LONG discussion about the DMB. To make a long story short, she was talking to Peter, and told him that SHE wanted to record People, People on halbum, and he said "OK" just as long as he gets to play on it. Wade Bringer of useless tidbits of side shit thateans very littleTop Permalink
Hello everyone! I new to this awesome list and I wanted to introduce my- self. I am from Rochester NY and started to listen to the DMB early in the summer. I went to see them play when HORDE came to Darian Lakes near Buffalo. While the concert was awesome, not many people heard him play. He was first to play and only a handful of people were there listening. That was real good for me however! Because nobody was there, a real ape of a security guard told me and my friends we could go up front, close to the stage. We are pretty poor so we only had shitty lawn seats. Since that concert, DMB has really taken off here in Rochester. All you hear in my school parking lot is DMB, and it ridiculously easy to get bootlegs. Everyday is "Dave Matthews Day" at my school! You wouldn't believe how fast they caught on since August! rare stuff, but I really don't know for sure. I have one bootleg that was recorded at Woodberry Forest School, a private prep school in Virginia. Dave played at a private party and a awesome recording was made. I happen to friends with a student there, and he set me up with copy. Is this bootleg rare? I have no clue. I would be more than happy to trade. Rusted Root just came last weekend to the Horizontal Boogie Bar in Rochester. I was lucky enough to get tickets a week early because they sold out both shows they played. They were absolutely amazing! If anyone has any tapes of them, let me know! I'm also looking for any God Street Wine tapes. They are coming in a week or so and I plan on seeing them. Does anyone have any Tim Reynolds tapes? I am looking for any good tapes that have any version of "Stream" on them. I've been babbling for too long now, so I'll won't let you suffer any longer! email me at Goldberg@Rochgte.Fidonet.org if you have anything to trade! Seth :)Top Permalink
I'd spend the money if I were you...Shannon Worrell plays beautful music. Tim Reynolds plays banjo on a couple of cuts and to me, that's worth the $14.50. She sounds a LOT like Shawn Colvin... BlakeTop Permalink
when derryberry & alagia come to your area -- GO. go because they are wonderful musicians, go because they play a few dave songs here and there (they played a sick dancing nancies last night and a satellite), go because they write great music, go because they're the nicest guys you'll ever meet, and go because they can hook you up with great dave matthew's news! so, since i was with a dave authority/expert, i picked alagia's brain a bit "we [minaretsnetters] heard that you and dave were supposed to write some songs around christmas but did that fall through after dave's sister died?" worked a lot of things out in the studio. he wrote four or five new songs around then. here about a song named, "doobie" or something? anyone heard of this?] dave just wrote a song _ONE WEEK AGO CALLED "LET YOU DOWN."_ [this is where i began to lose my mind. we're standing outside our student center next to his car. he reaches into his glove compartment and pulls out a tape.] ago? this is a preliminary mix-down from the 24-track digital recording i made onstage... so he plays the most incredible-sounding tape i've ever heard and plays me the "lie in our graves" from the show, as i told him that this is my favorite dave song. several other very interesting things came up and they also let me tape their set off the soundboard (which came out sounding incredible -- write if you'd like to trade for a copy, though it's only about an hour... hell, just send me a tape if you want a copy). i'll send along more exciting info i learned from these guys as i remember it -- what excitement! reid SPICE@DICKINSON.EDUTop Permalink
jimi thing and listen to the music? maybe not. as far as songs sound alike, i think it's easier to look at the band identical chords. (and look at the middle section of antelope and runaway jim by phish. talk about redundancy...) but jimi thing and listen to the music? i can't see it. as far as ftp'ing goes, most ftp sites, and i doubt phish.net is any different, there's a limit on the number of users allowed direct ftp access at any given moment. for uwp it's 30. so obviously spots are going to be in high demand. try early in the morning when you think most people are asleep. it me seem silly for me to tell everyone to this, because then everyone will try early in the morning, but it usually works. and as for a 135 minute set with no break, first, that's not really that much shorter than a two set show of old (roughly 150 minutes after encore). and most of phish's sets this summer were 70 minutes long, making for maybe 165 minutes after encore. also, how is uva amphitheatre in terms of being logistically sound for the band to take a 20 minute break, and lastly, those bands where the fans get so intent on being near dave that the people in the front row were getting crushed, as i would understand it, which may have led the band to cut the show short in the interests of said fans. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
to anyone who has a copy of tuesday night, if you could sit down and transcribe what dave said about tripping billies, i'd like to put it in the faq and i'm pretty sure blake will want it in the warehouse, too. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
He said what he's said before (not that I have a copy of Teus night) : and that's what the song's about was the gist of Teus night. He's said Before he was on too much LSD on the beach in a towel, when a cop came up to him. He gave the police officer his towel thinking it was a gun... JohnTop Permalink
Rick made a point about people crowding up close to the stage, even to the point of crushing and being crushed. This is a disturbing trend. When the band played out here in Vail a month or so ago, it was in this pretty cool little ampitheatre. It was G.A. but there was seating in the front. We got there pretty early and got seats in the 1st and second row - everything was cool for the first two bands (Jackopierce and Freddy Jones) but then before DMB, people started to move in front of the front row of seats (i.e. in the flower beds that seperated the stage from the seating. By the end of the show the thing had been leveled. Kind of pissed me off, it wasn't like there was no other space available... Anyway, if these people are such big fans that they must be up front, why don't they make an effort to get there earlier? I also had a number of people crowd in off the isles in front of me and my friends, who then turned as if to apologize and said "But these guys are from my hometown..." As far as I know, this doesn't count for much, we all bought the same ticket. Or have I been missing out on special seating when I go to se Big Head Todd or Leftover Salmon, or the Samples somewhere outside of Colorado. Sorry to rail on, and it isn't just the DMB. Had a bunch of obnoxious people but in front of us during soulhat las weekend who said they were from Austin (soulhat's hometown) and it brought back bad memories. Adios, I promise to be in a better mood soon, JasonTop Permalink
Here's the set list from the concert in Raleigh last night. It was wonderful. Dave really has a lot more freedom to play more material with Best of What's Around Satellite Dancing Nancies Warehouse What Would You Say Song That Jane Likes Lie in Your Graves Pay for What You Get Jimi Thing Tripping Billies Minarets Typical Situation Two Step Ants Marching Rhyme and Reason Recently (awesome extended version) My friend Jeff and I tried to compile this list in order on the car ride home, so the order of songs may not be completely correct, but these are great lead-in from Two Step to Ants Marching and they jammed on Recently for like 15 minutes. It was a real rockin' show. -Ivan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ivan Jay Snyder "If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle ivans@acpub.duke.edu us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not Duke University die? And if you wrong us do we not revenge? If Box 94132 we are like you in the rest we will resemble Durham, NC 27708 you in that." -Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
Blues Traveler is playing in Charleston S.C. on Oct. 4 and Big Head Todd is also playing there on the 16th for free at Free Fall Jam, along with Hootie and the Blowfish, the Meat Puppets, etc... If you want to go you still have to have a ticket to get in. later, CliffTop Permalink
As far as the setlist that Ivan gave there are a few revisions- Best Satellite Dancing nancies warehouse wwys song jane likes jimi lie in our graves pay for what you get tripping billies minarets typical situation two step--ants -e- r+r recently Anyone interested in the show- I would love to trade it with the first couple of people that are interested- The tape came out really well except for the second half of best when Daves mike screwed up and his voice became muffled-Top Permalink
Here is the final results of the mood music survey. conjuaem@urvax.urich.edu tcsaarva@fedex.com 2787Macintyr@vmsa.csd.mu.edu 80382@strauss.udel.edu misha+@cmu.edu lmpautle@artsci.wustl.edu sarah.h.reynolds@dartmouth.edu cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu medicus@unicscvm.csd.scarolina.edu aphorg@mail.wm.edu midey@chem.chem.rochester.edu smithce@kenyon.edu TaperCMK@aol.com _______ Samples that is classic, but I can't think of the title right now, and a number of the ones on Stratagem.: BHTM #34 too & more! Smithereens the effect. I make lots of mixes for my friends and most of these have appeared on many of them [well, sorta, I mean in the set of mixes from me, there's going to be a significant percentage of these.] That's my $1.65 on the subject. Sorry for the long post, but maybe someone out there, including me, might benefit from these efforts. Peace, and may the soulfish swim with ya! Will -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples "I hear music from your window, but you're not at home. You're a thousand miles --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
And what kind of drums comprise Carter's new set? P.S. Have a Nice Day -- No Roger, No Re-Run, NO RENT!!Top Permalink
If anyone would be kind to tape me dmb and/or blues traveler I will send blank tapes and money for postage. I could never tape Dave but have been to alot of concerts. please e-mail me at vespa@wam.umd.edu thanx vespaTop Permalink
Hey there, songs. I have them on tape but do not know what they are called. mouth and all..." when we fight over our borders,then we, our brothers and sisters divide, tell me why is it so" Please help me out here, and please forgive my ignorance Feel free to e-mail me or post to minarets Thanks in advance, GregTop Permalink
...I'm just not sure what yet. The show. I don't have a setlist, but I have a reasonable guess at what went on... the beginning, end, and encores are all in right order, but the rest...er...i'm probably missing a few Best of What's Around Satellite (more on that later...) What Would You Say Rhyme and Reason Dancing Nancies Jimi Thing Warehouse Typical Situation Pay For What You Get Say Goodbye Minarets Recently (w/ super cool percussion guy &) Now. The crowd. Disgusting. Simply disgusting. It made me sad to be a dmb fan... first of all, the pushing and shoving was particularly violent and mean spirited tonight, people were moving around in huge packs through the middle of crowds very slowly... And now to Satellite. Oh god Satellite... I should have known when he started playing the riff (at 1/10th speed) and the place simply erupted in a huge burp of applaus and shrieking. Then the lyrics came in. That was the first time I noticed the girls... 7..8...9...10 of them! Somewhere in the 12-14 year old range. "SAAA-TA-LIIIIIITE IN MY EYES!!!!! WOOOOOA! LIKE A DIAMOND IN THE SKY!!!! !HOW I IWO)OWOW NOLFJWNEO WONDER!!!!! AYEEEE!" oh god it was 10 times worse than it sounds. besides that, there was the shrieking after every line... i don't want to sound like a guy that gets easyily annoyed, but this was as close as it comes to a realization of a nightmare (I remember telling clare about a bad thought i had that involved ants marching, giants stadium, and a bunch of shrieking girls). as far as DAVE, it was good. it wasn't a show that had anything spectacular... nancies had a super awesome wacky cool dave intro, typical situation really was lackluster... they skipped the hits, and basically did the album version with a worse flute solo... pay 4 was pretty good, those girls i mentioned go (really loud of course) satangirl #1: "I DON'T LIKE THIS SONG!" satangirl #2: "YEAH IT'S GOT NO BEAT!" satangirl #1: "DAVE IS CUTE WHEN HE SINGS!" grrrrrrr. i loved rhyme, it's growing on me, best sounded a bit empty, i think wwys should go back to the old jam, everything else was pretty much great. sorry for the length. well, no i'm not. ben thoroughly... just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "Kicking his mother until she let go of his * -- Ben Sterling -- * * soul has given him a healthy appetite" * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - W.H. Auden * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
Hello again, program messes up the return address! Also, anyone else that wants to trade with me, please just send your address in the body of your letter!Top Permalink
This came across horde.net. alex crothers ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Ok - I took everyone's advice and I went out and bought the new Dave Matthews band CD. And - I suppose this comes as no surprise - I thought it was totally cool! I've already listened to it three times, and I faxed in an order for their other two CD's. Thanks for exposing me to this great band! BTW - I finally recognized them after hearing the first song, which I have heard before on the radio but never knew who it was...Top Permalink
Hey all... ive been reading this list since early summer- you all are a great group of people. Im pretty bummed right now.... sighh..... i used to see DMB all the time in 92-93 at trax, and would have loved to go see them at the amphitheater at my alma mater, but alas am in jail (i mean grad school) here at Wake Forest (NC sucks. If anyone lives in this grand state, please tell me what there is to do in Winston Salem) Anyhow, im depressed and wanted to vent my frustrations... you all have been great, ive been experiencing DMB through your colorful posts. I have a tape (from trax i think) from sometime in early 93 (i think) and was wondering if anyone could give me a date... some of the things he 1)"my cousin is here tonight, neither of us are named nancy, but this is Dancing Nancies" 2)he does a slow version of Two Step and before beginning talks about Peter Greisar (sp?) and how he was "Stricken... with something. Nothing is missing.. this song would normally feature Peter Greisar but today it features..ME uhoh! This song is called Two Step yeah..." any ideas? thanks for listening to me bitch! KristinTop Permalink
I'll admit to being biased, but the Halloween encore was kickin'. Carter's solo was one of the best I've heard him do . . . he carried me through waves of, well exctasy is a strong word, but man--he was on fire. Doesn't ANYONE have lyrics to this most intense of songs? I thought the set was solid considering that this is the first time I ever saw 'em play to a crowd this size. I thought all went well. Saw a girl pass out in the front row and get hoisted up, over, and around by security. Any news on her health? And finally, I didn't hear anything about Dave's sister dying. What's the story? Ciao. MarianneTop Permalink
---------- Forwarded message ---------- hey, tell all your friends............ You can call Capitol Hill to tell your Congressperson or Senator what you think AND charge the religious right for your call. Far-right Traditional Values Coalition leader Rev. Lou Sheldon paid for a toll-free number so anti-gay supporters could call congressional members and express their political views. Well, progressives can use the same number and give the opposite views directly to DC. The 1-800-768-2221 phone number connects you directly to Capitol Hill. Spread this post and the phone number as far as possible. Let's make some calls and push up the phone bill for the religious right.Top Permalink
Rick made a point about people crowding up close to the stage, even to the point of crushing and being crushed. This is a disturbing trend. -------- getting pushed around. I got there late, due to getting entirely turned around on the Beltline (what a crazed road!). I was kinda sad I wouldn't get a good spot on the floor. for From Good Homes. I liked them, will have to give them a better listen soon. Once their set ended, I went to get a beer, and by the time I came back, I could see there was no point in getting back to the front. Couldn't breathe in that crowd up by the stage, let alone dance. I stood off at the edge on the left side, and had a blast; lotsa room to move :) the stage when the room is so small to begin with. I still felt "close to Dave," even on the edge of the crowd. What we don't need is people getting trampled one of these days. Take it easy, -Dash :)Top Permalink
This came across horde.net. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- BTW - I finally recognized them after hearing the first song, which I have heard before on the radio but never knew who it was... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ particularly check out this part. Yeah, I saw that and was wondering too. I think he might mean Recently, which got a lot of airplay down here at least.. so much, it's one of those 'skips' on the cds now.. don't think he would mean bowa, since I doubt that's gotten any airplay. who knows.. i just hope that dmb concerts aren't going to turn into moshing bt concerts of occasion. dmb is a lot slower and not nearly as hard, which is a _good thing_. (tm) but, who knows.. plaster a band all over town, and just look at the weirdo's you'll attract. :) brett ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brett Kingswell bmking@mail.wm.edu "what a beautiful day to celebrate life"Top Permalink
Hi all, Chicago?? I'm very excited--I haven't seen the band since the summer Horde shows. Tix are only $7 (aah to be back at the Eastern Standard for FREE). How does that compare to elsewhere? A friend of mine in Boston said he was paying $20something --Jeff ____________________________________________________________________________ Jeffrey Liszt---The University of Chicago "Every sixth American needs our help. There are five of us who should help him." --RFK ____________________________________________________________________________Top Permalink
I know Steve Lillywhite has produced U2. Who else has he worked with in the past??? - andy -Top Permalink
The spin doctors played at my school the other day, and a review of the concert came out in yesterday's paper (I didn't go). Being that the sd's are compared a lot to bt, and there's a lot of worry about dmb becoming big, I thought I'd try to theorize on this.. There's been talk on the bt net about people going to see the sd concert only for gin blossoms (we also had cracker & another here), then leaving before the sd's came on. The article mentioned this happened en masse the other night, and that a lot of people weren't happy when the sd's played songs they didn't know... could bands making it big be causing their own demise? I mean, with bands that take the song and jam and be creative in that horde kind of way, when they make it big, the people going to their shows don't want that, they want the top-40 single they know. so, the band changes accordingly. call it a loss of integrity or whatever you'd like, they're just playing to their audience (which dmb does all the time; slow or fast..). I don't know.. the article just spoke about people being all fussy when they didn't play album cuts and a couple friends of friends were upset when they played two princes too fast.. when to me, playing songs faster or slower is the sign of a dynamic band (at richmond, va horde BT played like lightning, and it was incredible).. anyway, just rambling on in williamsburg, va. (where the phone never seems to ring...) :) brett ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brett Kingswell bmking@mail.wm.edu "what a beautiful day to celebrate life"Top Permalink
steve did all but the last Pogues albums on island. for those who haven't heard the pogues they are an interesting group from ireland that combind traditional irish folk and "old" punk rock (the old late 70's british punk). the linear notes for the album essential describe it as mixing the cheiftans and the sex pistols. I don't know i'm just rambleing i recomend the pogues but hey i recomend a lot of things bye all matt who has way to much coffee tonightTop Permalink
Howdy. I just started playing the guitar about 3 weeks ago. And I am looking for some simple easy to read/understand sheet music for Dave. A few days ago some Dave music was posted but I just didn't understand it, and I'm teaching myself, so I've got nobody to ask help from. But I'll stop ramblin on.... Please Help Me. Graciously, Alix :)Top Permalink
Whoever it is, that has the chords file could you please forward it to me Thanks a bunch, SteveTop Permalink
I don't know if you can dare compare the Spin Doctors to the Dave Matthews Band. IMHO the Spin Doctors are a lot cheesier and they are not half the performers that DMB are. Even if Dave and the gang make it big, they can't lose that wonderful aura you feel when they perform. DMB is more of a Phish, Grateful Dead type band, you can never really tire of them. As for prices, I paid 10 bucks for the show in Raleigh, and around 15 for the show I saw at Brown's Island in Richmond this summer. Let's hope these prices don't go too high with Dave's future success. -Ivan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ivan Jay Snyder "If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle ivans@acpub.duke.edu us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not (919) 613-0017 die? And if you wrong us do we not revenge? If Box 94132 we are like you in the rest we will resemble Durham, NC 27708 you in that." -Shakespeare ------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
Whoever it is, that has the chords file could you please forward it to me Could I get the latest, most up-to-date, most comprehensive, most expanded version of the Tab file as well? alex crothersTop Permalink
Does anyone have a tape of Dave playing with Tim Reynolds at the Birchmere this summer? I'd love a copy of that.Top Permalink
In response to Greg's questions, this is what I've come up after relistening to some old Dave stuff that I have from a show at Trax, May 26, 1992: mouth and all..." According to the dub that I got, this song is "Blue Water". I'm not sure if this is the offical DMB title, but it songs as good as any other. I haven't heard this tune done since summer of 1992, so I don't know where it is now. when we fight over our borders,then we, our brothers and sisters divide, tell me why is it so" Yet again, I'm unsure if this is the right title, but I believe Dave has referred to this as "People, People". Again, this song seems to have disappeared into nothingness, which is quite a shame. For all who are interested, I'm new to minarets, just found out about it a couple of weeks ago. I've been listening to DMB since early May, 1992 (first show for me at Trax). However, since they've left the C'Ville scene in pursuit of greatness, I have to admit I'm a little bit behind the times. Only saw them once this summer at Horde in Richmond and caught first few tunes at UVA Amphitheatre. I've got 5-6 tapes with good music, although tape quality is questionable. I'd like to work a trade if there are any takers. Of particular interest is one with an ultra-first version of Warehouse (Dave talks about cats scratching eyes out, lyrics are completely different with same music). Also, I have a tape of Dave (with occasional help from Boyd) in the studio, I think, just kinda playing around with some tunes. Other stuff too from Flood Zone. Thanks for Minarets. I'm enjoying the catching up!! Steve Marazita smm7k@virginia.eduTop Permalink
or somewhere else in net-land offering to help someone set up a www page/ftp site for their fav. band. I want to do that!!!! SOMEBODY please HELP! All I need is a contact, or a phone number, or an email address, please help me!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples "I hear music from your window, but you're not at home. You're a thousand miles --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
This is my first post in a long time, but i wanted to give some feelings this past weeks shows. But, first...went up to Philly from Richmond and saw dave last night... The show had some good points and was overall pretty good Setlist- TLA, philly, 10/1/94 One Sweet World Best of What's Around Dancing Nancies Warehouse Say Goodbye Satellite Tripping Billies JImi Thing WWYS LIe in our Graves Lover Lay Down Rhyme and Reason Typical Situation Ants Marching There was no encore because they had to be off the stage by 11 and dave said they would play straight through and screw the tradition of the encore they ended up going over and playing until about 11:20 Unfortunately during Satellite, some very very drunk girl puked in front of the tapers....luckily it didn't hit all the dats...she then continued to puke during a HOT Tripping Billies and passed out on the floor....anyway... dave had a nice jam in lie in our graves and dave and carter had a sweet jam in jimi before r&r dave said" you mean to tell me that if you were getting fucked for 24 hours a day for a week and a half you wouldn't be happy?" carter then added afill in like after a joke on a talk show, carter then pumped his fist like arsenio hall and dave said waht is this "the fucking arsenio hall show" the theatre of the living arts was different and sold out around 800 people, lots of high schoolers... anyway, wednesday night was the show of the week, it has to go down as one of thbest two shows i have ever seen maybe i should have gone to raleigh and roseland as well...oh well WaylandTop Permalink
on tuesday carter sat down behind a brand new drum set...from what henry told me it is a Yamaha Studio Series, all maple. 5 mounted toms and one floor carter said he loves it...the set sounds good and carter had a hot week... WaylandTop Permalink
Sorry Blake... after sound check on saturday night dave got a haircut! it is short... WaylandTop Permalink
It still needs work but at leat ther's something there. If anyone wants to help me out let me know. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-Mike Makunas-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- "This species has | mmakunas@emerald.tufts.edu |"There's no way to amused itself to | mmakunas@jade.tufts.edu |delay that troubleTop Permalink
through October 92: +30 songs through October 93: about 3 new songs--granny, rhyme and reason, say goodbye through October 94: 0 new songs. --kerryTop Permalink
could bands making it big be causing their own demise? I mean, with bands that take the song and jam and be creative in that horde kind of way, when they make it big, the people going to their shows don't want that, they want the top-40 single they know. so, the band changes accordingly. call it a loss of integrity or whatever you'd like, they're just playing to their audience (which dmb does all the time; slow or fast..). Take a look at Phish, obviously there are enough people out there who enjoy long jams...It's up to Dave I guess to stick with his earlier playing style.... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford '96 | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | it won't give up it wants me dead | | goddamn this noise inside my head nin | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.3 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Does anyone have a tape of Dave playing with Tim Reynolds at the Birchmere this summer? I'd love a copy of that. Chris Chris- apparent). If so, welcome! feeds, but my friend got a decent audio tape on his DAT, which I recently offered to netters. I'm a little backed up on the whole deal now, but if you hang on to this message, and reply in 10-14 days, reminding me of who you are and what you want, we'll see if we can work something out.Top Permalink
To anyone who is in va and didn't go see rusted root tonight, or anyone anywhere who hasn't gone to see them when they're around, stop it and go next time. [ btw - i'd like to apologize to the people I met briefly tonight.. had but, I did find out something, thats, well... kinda neat. :) mike glabicki (lead singer type) told me they'd be back in the area in about a month, and they'd be playing with (ta dah) dmb. a few people around him dropped their jaws and started drooling at the mention of dave, which kind of frightened him I think, but that _is_ going to be one incredible show.... hope to see y'all again soon. take care, brett ps- hellos to austin and gambier, where two very jealous people live. ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brett Kingswell bmking@mail.wm.edu "hey.. i think you're all allowed to come up to the front of the stageTop Permalink
Ahh the stories we could tell.....here's my 2 cents At an usually crowded Trax in, I think, spring of 94, I had somehow secured a spot about 3 feet from the front, which meant I could never go to the bathroom, but anyway, these multitude of girls, all fairly young looking, were near the front. Before a song, this one girl yells "Dave I wanna have your baby!" or something to that effect. He says "This next song is about babies" and plays the XMas Song. It gets worse. These 4 or 5 girls, since they could obvuiously read the inside of R2T, new all the words, and proceeded to sing most of it at the top of there lungs, esp the "I want to be your girlfriend/wife" lines. This was topped off by the fact that some girl on crutches thougth it was her right to barge all the way up to the front. Kinda makes me laugh listening to bootlegs when he talks about lack of attendance, etc...anyways *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford '96 | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | it won't give up it wants me dead | | goddamn this noise inside my head nin | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.3 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink