Hey now, heading, but I thought this would be a good way to get some free publicity and fill everyone in on what's going on in Charlottesville, home of the one and only DMB. As you can tell, my name is Dominic DeVito, and I am a junior at Notre Dame. I have been on this list since about February of this year. I am originally from Staunton,VA, and I have been listening to DMB since June of 1993, which is when I went to my first and only concert of theirs, at Trax. For the past 2 summers I have been working at a CD/tape store in Staunton called Crossroads. My boss (the owner) is a guy named David Fisher who went to UVa and was in Fiji there. In late July, the big boss man bought the club we have all know and love as Trax and changed the name to Crossroads Concert Hall. I don't know who the parties involved were, but apparently there were 2 guys who owned Trax, and one is the manager of DMB. That person (apparently) decided to bail so he could concentrate on making DMB known to the rest of the country. The other person then wanted to sell as well, so they talked to David and the rest is history. CCH (Crossroads Concert Hall) will be open Sept. 8 with new carpeting, paint, TVs, a new bar, and (finally) air conditioning. David told me that he will have DMB at CCH for one last (yes, last) concert around the time the new album comes out, which I believe is Sept. 27. He is also planning some sort of autograph party/sale thing, too. He told me not to worry, he will still get great bands at the club, such as Cracker, Dinosaur Jr., Green Day, Freddy Jones Band, etc., but it won't be Trax anymore. So if you get some tape that reads Sept '94, Trax, it's probably 90% correct, but not entirely. Just thought I'd let you all know what's going on in C'ville, and if you have any questions, corrections, additions, or constructive criticism, feel free to send 'em along. I just regained net access 2 days ago, so this may be entirely worthless to most of you. If so, my apologies. Take care, and enjoy the show since I can't be there. Regards, Dominic PS anybody got a tape from Trax in late May or early June of 1993? I'd ____________________________________________________________________________ | I'd rather drink muddy water, | Dominic Jules DeVito, Amateur Slacker | | Sleep in a hollowed-out log, | University of Notre Dame, South Bend, IN | | Than stay here in Frisco | ddevito@darwin.cc.nd.edu | | And be treated like a dog. | "Wake up to find out that you are the | | -"I Know You Rider" | EYES OF THE WORLD...." | |__________________________________________________________________________|Top Permalink
I was at some evil, evil mall type of satanic/nazi state, and in some type of nazi/vomit inducing record store, I asked the lady if she had anything by "The Da-ve M-atth-ew-s Ba-n-d", as I had happily turned my friend onto them, and he was itchin' fer some dave (har har), to which she replied "No, but you're the fourth person to ask me about them today." This is weirdo. This is in the middle of NOWHERE, okay? I'm not talking like a New Yorker, where, of course, everything else is a tiny little hamlet, but this really wasn't anywhere. Just a random disgusting lump of metal in the middle of fields. I like taking others constructive time and making them read this, Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
Last spring, there was talk about a souther VA mailing list, that would be for more or less all bands, but mainly DMB/Boy O Boy/everything etc VA and non-VA bands who would be playing in the area (Wmbrg, Richmond, CVille, Norfolk, Hampton). I was wondering if anything became of that net, & if so, if anyone had info on it.. tks. brett -- bmking@mail.wm.edu / bkingswe@nyx10.cs.du.eduTop Permalink
Just a word to folks who are going to the remaining HORDE shows. Check your local paper and with the venue if you can before you head out to make sure that you have the accurate start time of the show. My ticket said 3 p.m. but it seems they started the show at 2. I got there about 2:30 and caught the last half of Dave's set. I was very disapponted and frustrated by this since DMB and Rusted Root were the main reasons I was going. Luckily, he was playing on the main stage. He was plagued with some technical difficulties early on which were getting worked out by the time I got into my seat and settled. The portion of the set I got to hear was excellent. Even though he is not well known at all in this part of the country, he had made a number of new fans yesterday. He and the band were in excellent form and smoked! I hope that this exposure on the HORDE tour will bring them back to a smaller venue soon. klong Information is not Knowledge, Knowledge is not Wisdom, Wisdom is not Truth, Truth is not Beauty, Beauty is not Love, Love is not Music, Music is The Best!Top Permalink
For one, I think there were 3 owners and 2 baileda; not 2 of 2. More importantly, it don't open Sept. 8. It opens tomorrow night (Thursday) with a reggae band. And... FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, ARU and TR3!! Hoorah! To those who thought Trax (as we knew it) is dead, you're dead wrong. ARU is hot, and I'm glad to see them in Cville for a 4th (5th?) time. Also, if you haven't seen them yet, I *HIGHLY* recommend seeing TR3. I have some old TR3 boots, and often use parts of them as filler,esp on Phish tapes. Not sure what the current incarnation is, but the lead guitarist, Tim Reynolds (used to be a trio; get it? Tim Reynolds 3rio = TR3), is grand! Plays with DMB off and on, and sat in for UTTAD in the studio. Makes them strangs do all jazz, sometimes slowing to a milky, soothing groove, othertimes building to a monstrous wailing fury (more or less so depending on the incarnation.) I've only seen them 20 or 30 times, and I'll be there with bells on. DON'T come just in time for ARU; you'll miss the best band Charlottesville's ever birthed (another band, with its own listserv mailing list, has been rained upon with more attention, but.... hey... guess i shouldn't make that comparison here. :) love ya :) Ellis FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digestTop Permalink
hi Anyone know the venue that DMB played 6/26/93? I just got a tape with no venue listed. Filler is three songs from 12/9/92. Anyone know this venue either? I appreciate you help. joe & lauraTop Permalink
Rusted Root is incredible! Some serious dancing was going on when that band hit the Gonzo stage at Richmond. just saw someone mentioned it so thought I'd offer my measley personal opinion... It's good to be back... Jamie CogbillTop Permalink
...until a hungrier time This is very important to McDonalds lovers. This is very important for humanity. I have the official OK batsignal from one of you crazy minarets.legends, so I take no responsibility for this action. All complaints should be sent to the goddess. All compliments, marriage proposals, and the like should be sent directly to me. - - - - - - - - - - What is the BIG MAC (R) index? (or ....an introduction to burgernomics) The Big Mac Index was launched by the London Economist in 1986 as a lighthearted guide to whether currencies are at their correct level. Burgernomics is based upon the theory of purchasing power parity (PPP) - the notion that a dollar should buy the same amount in all countries. Our "basket" is a McDonald's Big Mac sandwich, which is produced locally in the countries listed below. The price listed shows the price of a Big Mac sandwich in dollar terms. The least expensive price is in China, where a Big Mac costs a bargain $1.03. figures suggest that the yuan is the most undervalued currency, the Swiss franc the most overvalued. BIG MAC PRICES IN DOLLARS * US **2.30 Argentina 3.60 Australia 1.72 Austria 2.84 Belgium 3.10 Brazil 1.58 Britain 2.65 Canada 2.06 Chile 2.28 China 1.03 Czech Rep 1.71 Denmark 3.85 France 3.17 Germany 2.69 Greece 2.47 Holland 2.85 Hong Kong 1.19 Hungary 1.66 Italy 2.77 Japan 3.77 Malasia 1.40 Mexico 2.41 Poland 1.40 Portugal 2.53 Russia 1.66 Singapore 1.90 S. Korea 2.84 Spain 2.50 Sweden 3.20 Switzerland 3.96 Taiwan 2.35 Thailand 1.90 * Local currency equivalent calculated using excange rate as of 5/4/94. ** Average of New York, Chicago, San Franscisco and Atlanta. - - - - - - - - - Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
hi. hi hi hi hi. wow.. lots of people are finally back.. hi to ya'll too.. (yes, ya'll, ben.. us suthurners do use that word frequently...) has anyone heard anything about the 'horde' band endorphine? smiles.. 76-hours-and-14-minutes-cigarette-free-clare ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
A Jr. Bacon Cheesburger.........= 99 cents..... nuff said.... I am hoping the new album contains both the mellow, upbeat, dance, and heavy metal versions of satellite..... did you heat eddie vedder was a guest vocalist... to clare, blake and gray...... MAKE SURE I RESPOND WHEN YOU SEND EVERY MESSAGE TO ME......... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.2 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Anyone know the venue that DMB played 6/26/93? I just got a tape with no venue listed. Filler is three songs from 12/9/92. Anyone know this venue either? I appreciate you help. thought i'd go ahead and post it to the whole net..just in case, you know? it's funny that you asked about this tape 'cause i saw the exact copy at a friend's house yesterday night..! the 6/26 show is from the Bayou in DC but i'm not sure of the filler....anyone? alex crothersTop Permalink
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hello do. i don't have a cool name for it yet any ideas? let me know. basically it's just a list of mailing addresses for HORDE bands. along with the mailing addresses is the news groups and email lists where they exist. right now this being the first installment and everything this is really inadequate. if the band isn't on here i don't have info so send it to me. if you see something that's wrong tell me i'll correct it. i'm not sure how often i'll be putting this out. if anyone has any ideas on makeing this run a little smoother let me know. this is my first list so any help will be nice. well now on with the list. first thanks to everyone who has helped so far (with out knowing it). first to Bruce Willner for giveing this little info to start with. also to Ben Tanen, KeithD Martin, Christine M Sandvik, Nole Cole, Darren Cokin luke@rock.net, Dave Engleman, Dabe Murphy, and Eric Budke. well here we go. Allman Bros. Band allman-request@world.std.com Big Head Todd and The Monsters Blues Traveler Dave Matthews Band The Hatters (fomally known as the Mad Hatters) HORDE God Street Wine Jambay Mystery Jones phish Rusted Root Samples Santana Soul Hat Spin Doctors Widespread Panic Well that's all i have now. i'll send another one out when i can get a little more information. please if you know something that isn't here or if you see an error let me know at msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu. thanks and keep grooveingTop Permalink
This show is, indeed, from the Bayou in D.C. The tapes you have probably followed from the tree,the first on this net (though not the first completed :( The tapes were sndbrds offered up by the band. Filler on set I is from 12-9-92. Filler on set II is 10-5-93. If anyone wants them and still doesn't have them, I have the SBD analog master the band's management gave me to run the tree with. I'll be happy to spin copies for anyone who sends blanks (both 100 min!!!) and postage ($1.67 cheap; $2.90 priority) to me. FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digestTop Permalink
Well, I've been in twice now; the place looks _great_! The bathrooms alone will wow you. New carpet. The two brick walls separting the two areas to the side have been removed. The raised platform that was behind the soundboard has been cut 80% in length, leaving _much_ more dancing room in the hall. And, most importantly, they have AC!! The bar arrangements are new, as well, and I was told that there will be new tables and chairs. Work is still proceedign as we speak (I was wrong about a Thursday reggae show; thats next week), and it's all looking grand to be done by the time TR3 hits the stage, in about 23 hours! To note, there will be a DMB listening party, Monday, September 26, at Crossroads Concert Hall (804-295-8729) to "debut" UTTAD. I t is unclear whether or not there will be a DMB show on Tuesday the 27th, as was previously suggested in minarets.net; if there is substantial interest, esp by those who would travel, I suggest snail mail to Crossroads (or to the band; check R2T for address.) Don't be harrassing; they're way busy enough. However, mild encouragement from many pholks at once can have important consequences in some events under some circumstances. :) FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digestTop Permalink
Hey fellow humans, notes... DMB @ Jones Beach 9/1/94 Satellite Rhyme & Reason Ants Marching Help Myself Lie In Our Graves Tripping Billies Fun 'set' despite the general sameness of it. Help Myself was a nice 'surprise'. in the middle of Rhyme we noticed that a few people had gone to the front of the stage, so we went up, from our seats about 30 rows back, and the relatively nice security guard let us go on through, so we were dancing in the front row, literally 5 feet from the band which was fun. Dave broke his G string at the very beginning of Billies, and played the guitar the whole time, which lead to some strange faces as dave tried to figure out new ways to play some parts. Everyone else was pretty good, but another great DMB related highlight was a little jam on this super small stage while the screamin cheetah wheeles or something were playing. anyway, it started with the drummer and percussion player from the allmans along with boyd and steffan. this soon grew to leroi, arnie lawrence, and john popper all jamming straight on one groove for about half an hour. "So long suckers!" -Calvert DeForest Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
There's another Dave show in NYC! Yippee, here are some specifics... Roseland (239 West 52nd Street bet. 8th & B'way) September 30th Tickets are $15 and can be purchased from those ticketpeople as well as at the Irving Plaza box office... I don't know when the show is, but I'd imagine it says on the ticket and will say it sometime soon on the hotline. If any of you need more info on how to actually GET to Roseland if you don' tknow the city well, I can give you some info. I'm kinda surprised their playing Roseland... it is a club of much size. there AFTER they got super popular. Living Colour played there. These aren't huge acts, but at least for now in a different league of popularity and name recognition. It should be cool. Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
I just got the new Phoniex, and DMB is playing at Lupo's, on October 9. From Good Homes are opening. FGH are an excellent band from New Jersey, very folky, I believe they have opened up shows at Trax and the Flood Zone for Dave. Lupo's is part of the Met Cafe, which us DMB fanatics overwhelmed last time. While the Met holds about 150 people legally(There were over 250 there) Lupos holds close to 5 or 600. Pretty big place. Max Creek plays every weekend. Rich Lupo owns both places, and you can enter the met from Lupo's. Hope to see you all there. Oh BTW, anyone know if Dave gives out press passes? Later, MikeTop Permalink
Thanks to all who responded with info on the Bayou tape. This is certainly a generous, helpful net to be a part of. Thanks again. joe & lauraTop Permalink
I have a bit of a dilema here. There is a board on AOL dedicated to DMB, and there are a good number of people who read it (at least 8 or 10 post). So the thing is, do I tell them about minarets? On one hand, we'd get a few new people, but on the other, probably an influx in people who really don't know anything begging for tapes and talking about 'this cool CD i heard about called Recently and stuff'... so it's your call. Personally, I kind of like the vibe in here right now ('this is a vibe alright, you can eat this one with chopsticks!'). Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
Well, once the album comes out (sept 27, right?), and the first couple of singles make their way through the college charts (and maybe more), there's going to be a BIG rush on the net I think. This is of course presuming our boys do hit it off. But somehow, whether or not any of us do or don't want it to happen, I think most of the people on this net believe that it will happen. Ok.. if that wasn't convuluded enough. All I meant to say was that most of us probably think they'll make it big, and when that happens, minarets will get crowded. there. Gotta remember to keep these things simple, brett.. :) So, either see it as a practice run :), or wait till they find out about us along with everyone else. :) take care, brett -- Brett Kingswell bkingswe@nyx.cs.du.edu / bmking@mail.wm.edu to see.. what the madman sees.. in escaping.. the endless possibilities..Top Permalink
Dave broke his G string at the very beginning of Billies, and played the guitar the whole time, which lead to some strange faces as dave tried to figure out new ways to play some parts. I didn't know dave wore a g string. --kerryTop Permalink
I thought I'd share some more news I got recently at Jones Beach- If what I'm telling you all is already common knowledge, could someone please kindly inform me. Thanks. him a few more questions about the album. The following is what I can Ants Marching Satellite Best of What's Around Pay for What You Get Jimi Thing Song #34 Rhyme and Reason Help Myself What Would You Say And 3 more tunes that I can't remember right now, but if you ask about a song it might come back to me. There's nothing "new," that is, all the songs he mentioned were very familiar. He told me they tried to spread out the selections evenly over the brief history of DMB. some otehr stuff that might be interesting to know, however. First, he assured me that the new record contract would not affect the band's current taping policy. I also asked him if he knew about this net group. He smiled somewhat modestly and nodded, and then discussed the possibility of floating a few unreleased songs on the net to those of us with CD- ROM access (I'm no computer expert, so dont ask me). Finally, he told me that at fall shows the band would return to the two set format whenever possible (I was worried after the Hammerjacks show in Balt.). just returned to the net last week, and have no idea what you all know or don't know. Let me know where you all stand.Top Permalink
Hello there-- I tried to send a message to Rick Thompson, stu_thomps@vaxl.acs.jmu.edu, to get the FAQ, but the mail is bouncing. Could someone w/ a FAQ send me a copy? mucho thanks, dave droush@sas.upenn.eduTop Permalink
i just sent out the faq to a coupla people, and realized that the faq has not been updated in something like 8 months, which means it has absolutley no mention of the new cd in it. so, if some kind soul could forward me a copy of the setlist along with any info you might have on it, i'd be much obliged. as far as the lyrics file goes, i'm working on getting it all tied together. don't have much time for these things this semester, but i'm making a few corrections, and i've added rhyme or reason, a version of #36 and drive in drive out, and i'm still hoping to get a good two step before too long. the problem with two step, though, is that he only sings 3 different verses during the song (repeating as he feels necessary) but has 4 or 5 different verses written for it, and i'm trying to figure out how to interpret it. hmmmmmmm. (not to mention the fact that i or somebody else actually needs to sit down and work it out.....have you done that clare? i forget) ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
The following is courtesy of Ben Sterling (nebuious@aol.com) Help Myself ----------- Intro e-------------- -----------------------------| B-------------- -----------------------------| G--------0----- -----------------------------| D--2--4--0----- etc --------4--2--------4--2--5--| A--2--4-------- --2--3--------2--3-----------| E-------------- -----------------------------| Verse e-------------------------------------------------| B-------------------------------------------------| G-------------------------------------------------| D-----------------3--------4--2--------4--2--5----| A-----4--5-----4-----2--3--------2--3-------------| E--3--------5-------------------------------------| Bridge "oooh colder grow the days" e-------------------------------------------------| B--2-------------------2--------------------------| G--2---1---------------2---1----------------------| D--2------2-----2------2------2-------------------| A--0---------4-----4---0---------5--5--5--4--2----| E------0-------------------0----------------------| Pre-Chorus For some reason I can't seem to get the chords to sound right... "summer's here..." e-------3---2----3-----------| B---2---3---3----3-----------| G---2---0---2----0-----------| D---2---0---0----0-----------| A---0---2---0----2-----------| E-------3---2----3-----------| Chorus "Dangerous hours" Same as the intro Ben (new owner of the chords file) just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
topic #1 I talked to Dave again at the Jones Beach HORDE show, and asked him a few more questions about the album. The following is what I can Ants Marching Satellite Best of What's Around Pay for What You Get Jimi Thing Song #34 Rhyme and Reason Help Myself What Would You Say And 3 more tunes that I can't remember right now, but if you ask about a song it might come back to me. There's nothing "new," that is, all the songs he mentioned were very familiar. He told me they tried to spread out the selections evenly over the brief history of DMB. Well, let me add, just for the sake of completion, the following three tunes which will likely appear (or definitely, as the case may be) on _Under The Table And Dreaming_: Say Goodbye (they worked it into a full-band version, right?) Warehouse (trust me) Dancing Nancies (trust me again) -Adam Incidentally, I STILL can't believe #34 and Best of What's Around are going to be on an album. Ah, ain't life grand? ----------------- topic #2 (this is a post of mine from 8/31 which I don't think ever got to the net): Hi everyone. I went to the HORDE at Jones Beach today. Dave and the guys played for only about a half-hour (maybe a little more). A rather uninspiring set in my opinion-- they were just getting going when they finished with a stock version of Ants Marching. Anyway, after the set was over, it began to get interesting. brought them today to show the guys. ARU got a kick out of the ones I took of them that day when I saw THEM last week, so I figured why not! I got to Boyd first and he flipped through them quickly, complained about how bad he looked, signed one, took two others, and he was off. Later I got Carter's attention and we wound up talking for a while. He signed a picture for me and then he asked me to sign one of the one's I took for him. While we were just shooting the bull, he told me one particularly They'll be a doing a sort of 'fall tour' after the album comes out. Tim Reynolds WILL be joining the band for this entire tour! I specifically asked about Boston and Carter said in early November they'd be up that way. Cool. It should be really interesting how the band develops over the course of this tour with another player night-in and night-out. Not much else to report. In my opinion, the HORDE tour is a mere shadow of the extravaganza it was two years ago. That's life. Bye for now, Ben That's all. --BenTop Permalink
I am hiccuping like a champ, but amy way Say good bye on disc, should be killer, I say compare it tp Hampfen Sydeny 1rst tume, no lyrics the same, just lookd through lrgs, and found Satellite (after her ) best fucking shit anyone got a date on that .................. ??????????????????????? *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.2 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Once again I called the hotline whilst sitting at my Mac. I can't type so fast, so here's what I managed to get . . . Asbury, and someone else whose name I didn't recognize . . . 9/27 CD comes out! YIPPEE! [all these w/ From Good Homes opening unless otherwise noted] 9/27 UVA Amphitheater 9/28 The Floodzone 9/29 The Ritz 9/30 Roseland [a Theater of the Living Arts, Phila. PA date in here!] 10/3 New Haven 10/5 Montreal 10/6 Toronto 10/7 Pittsburgh (opening for Rusted Root) 10/8 Boston 10/9 Providence 10/11 Northampton 10/12 OOPS! Missed it. Enjoy you all. --BenTop Permalink
that's german, i am such a scholar... (ps- it helps having lived there for many years [wink]) okay... here's my point. 34? nope. so my venture is to say 36 has a better chance on the album than 34. but i'll call again, on the honorable rick to give clarification on the little discussion that pursued on this topic... oh... say month ago, maybe? (you remember this one, don't you bss?) say goodbye? nope. not on the album, although it has been worked into a beautiful bongo sounding full band wonder. but nix on it being on the album. pay4: mmmmmm.... maybe. (remember, i made this guess back in may) if it's on blake is here shouting in the background about #34. he adamantly wants me to make his point clear. he say's 'bullshit'. buford... what's with the frequency of your inebriated posts? okay.. i've rambled enough.... smiles, hugs, pancakes, and evian... ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
Through a friend that works at RCA, I have heard a promotional of the new album. The songs on the promo are wwys,warehouse, jimi thing, R&R, best of..., and dancin nanacies. it sounds really good, althogh it takes a little getting used to. There seems to be a synthesizer track on wwys and on warehouse. John Popper makes an appearance on wwys. Tim can be heard on warehouse. R&R is the best in my opinion. I think that everyone will like it. I think that I may be getting the entire CD in a few days. I'll let yall know the rest of the songs. GordonTop Permalink
So there I am. 15th street & Union square... The Wiz. My friend over somewhere probably deciding between aerosmith, ace of base, or some other friendly little mtv band, and i'm scanning new CDs for no reason. So, somewhere between The Division Bell and Voodoo Lounge, my heart stops. It's sitting right there. Tons of them. They're crawling with yellow SALE $11.99 stickers. Remember Two Things, in all its Bama Raga Glory. Now, the only explanation I can think of is that the Wiz sponsors shows at Irving Plaza, and Irving Plaza is about 300 feet away from this particular Wiz, but I still can't believe I saw it. This place doesn't have Lawn Boy (by Phish), but they have R2T! Giants Stadium, here I come... Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
oh.. two more things... 1-lover lay down.. yes, on the album. and carter says that he feels it's the 2-i am still running the article/interview file... but as of present i am hugs adn kisses, clare emily ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
Just thought I'd add that Dave did say on 7/28 at the Irving Plaza show (which I have audio proof of) that Say Goodbye would be on the new album. Just trying to help. DanTop Permalink
no clare. your WRONG! ;) i would sooner believe that #34 will be the one, because it's such a beautiful song that has no exposure. i think that's why he wants to put it on the cd, as well as the fact that it's a much more solid song than #36. it has a more defineable form as well as set lyrics, whereas #36 is just a free-for-all jam with made up lyrics, not to mention that it gets repetitive. repetitive can be cool at a live show when your watching how much fun the band and the audience are having, but it doesn't work to well on disc. #34 was (is) a song that doesn't grab the audience right away, it just kind of grows on you, so it never really got a tremendous reception when he wrote it. it was after a few tapes got circulating and people could really listen to the song that they really started to like it. more or less, he's specifically saved this one (as well as rhyme and reason, imho) for the cd, so he could get the song out to people so they can hear it. ps- for all you people who have asked for the lyrics file in the past two weeks, i'm just about ready to send a copy to everyone who's signed up for the mailing list over the past year, and then you'll have a full set of dmb lyrics (sans two step, currently. i think someone sent two step to me, but i lost it. (don't ask me how i lost ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
I thought #36, altough the lyrics are pretty random and not developed, was about Cris Harmony, a civil rights activist in South Africa who was killed. The story I heard (don't remember how, though) was they they heard this during a sound test before a show and 'wrote' the song then. Or maybe it was just dedicated to him. Anyone know the real story? Also, Say Goodbye. Wasn't the name (assumed to be) Quick lay and Goodbye, then I thought it was heard officially that it was Just For Tonight, but now everyone's calling it Say Goodbye. Did I miss something over the summer? :) thanks. brett -- Brett Kingswell bkingswe@nyx.cs.du.edu / bmking@mail.wm.edu i don't know why people are so stuck up and only write songs about people. this one's about my dog.Top Permalink
thanks, rick... i love you dearly, too... maybe you're right, maybe you're not.. but i agree with hatever it was you said... cause it was mostly right. #36... actually.. we already discussed this earlier on 'summer-net' but i'll give a mild re-hash... say goodbye... officially is called.... say goodbye. straight from the horses mouth... and still, (personally) i say no to it being on the album. although they've coordinated it into an awesome song (even as great as it is solo), it's still not got difinitive lyrics in the way, say, r&r has taken on in all the shows i've seen since the band started playing again this summer. ALL ARE WELCOMED TO DISAGREE IF SO FELT!!! but i'll still love you all anyway... i just might curse you and stuff...... keep on rockin in the free world... (hee heee.. i'm to damn silly..) cec ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
I thought #36, altough the lyrics are pretty random and not developed, was about Cris Harmony, a civil rights activist in South Africa who was killed. The story I heard (don't remember how, though) was they they heard this during a sound test before a show and 'wrote' the song then. Or maybe it was just dedicated to him. Anyone know the real story? actually, that story is right on the money, though his last name is hani, as clare mentioned. the thing is when one writes a song about a deceased individual who means a lot to you, regardless of whether you acutally know the person (and i think consensus has it that dave knew chris hani the way we might know bill clinton), it will have a lot of emotion (i would think). as any songwriter can attest, deeply emotional songs are somewhat easy to vary lyrics on, because one has so much to say (hey, there's a lost classic;), so i doubt we'll ever see anything more than a groove, there. Also, Say Goodbye. Wasn't the name (assumed to be) Quick lay and Goodbye, then I thought it was heard officially that it was Just For Tonight, but now everyone's calling it Say Goodbye. Did I miss something over the summer? :) (humperdink is marriing the prinzess in leetle less than hav an hhour...) actually, it was originally introduced as quick lay and goodbye 'cuz dave couldn't think of a name for it. he even entreated his first audience (which would be in lexington, i believe) to come up with one for him. it was on the net the people started suggesting all sorts of crazy things, but the favored (aside from quick lay and goodbye) was just for tonight. i don't know if say goodbye started here, or just found it's way here. some people were calling it that before dave actually introduced it as that, though. actually, that's prolly more of an explanation than a summation. oh well... ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
Hey Minernetters! The other night I went to see Derryberry & Alagia play at the Grog &Tankard on Wisc. Ave here in DC. And thought I'd let y'all know that they're still doing some great covers of DMB tunes. They played w/ a band called Vertical Horizon (a popular Gtown band and also a contributor the the latest AWARE cd). At the end of the night they all got up on stage together and jammed to Best of What's around...it was great. all four musicians alternated singing out the verses. I'd highly recommend both these bands if ya get the chance. It's funny cuz they were talking about Dave all night. At one point doug Derryberry jokingly said, "we refuse to do any more Dave Matthews songs until Dave Matthews starts to do some covers of our songs." Then they went on to play "Satellite." Oh well, dat's it. Jamie CogbillTop Permalink
I think that Say Goodbye is on the album. At the Nashville show at 328 on the 11th of last month Dave said that it was on the album. I like the new version with Leroi on flute, nice to hear a new sound. I guess this doesn't matter. We'll find out soon enough. OH, LET ME OPEN THE PACKAGE MOM, DID I GET THE TRAIN SET I ASKED FOR? Xmas cheer, GrahamTop Permalink
I've been looking over my own personal list of songs I expected to see on UTTAD, and the only one I haven't seen any mention of is . . . What happened here? Is this song not worthy? Also, does anyone remember talk back in January about Dave going up to write some songs with John Alagia? Did that fall apart when Dave was called away by events surrounding his sister's death? Frankly, we've only gotten one new song in the past year. Bye for now, BenTop Permalink
lost your name/address, but we had talked of a future trade. 11/3/92 (the election night show) 9/1/92 II and some others... --WillTop Permalink
I've been real quiet on the net for the past few months, but all of the sudden i have an urge to toss out some musings. (what im getting at is I am actually posting but i dont have the slightest clue if im doing it right..excuse me if i screw up please) yesterday i was cathcing up with some of my buddies and listenin to some dave tape (dont ask me which..youll soon understand im clueless) and dave's deep mumbley, rumbley, voice cuts through our conversation, " this song's about a quicklay and goodbye." Which got us talkin'. Some people thought saying that and calling it 'say goodbye" kind of ruined the song. He sings it with such passion and heartfelt emotion that we'd all gotten sucked into the song's story. Before the name "say goodbye" it was so easy to imagine that the 2 lovers were freinds that had always been in love and that night was the one night when the 2 finally got to share each other. Ya know? Like, the would have always been lovers only somthing wasn't right with the situation..timing or something trivial. But, calling it "say goodbye and throwing out a comment like "quick lay" ruined the idea that there was some sincere loving passion between the two. so why the passion in his voice when he sings..especially towards the end? i cant conclude anything.. and i know im not supposed to. I guess that's why i like caliing it "say goodbye"--- IT MAKES YOU THINK. there is still room for persanal interpretaions of the lyrics and the meanings can change for dave and for all of us listeners too. it lets you imagine and play with a little paradox. well thats whats on my mind ..now yall can ever so kindly point out my mistakes. casual grins and some yawns..hope i didnt waste too much of your time! catherineTop Permalink
I have two different things to discuss, so I'll go one at a time, and you can skip ahead if one bores you. First- I went to buy my tickets for DMBs New Haven show at Toad's Place. The price- $7.50. VERY reasonable. The club is also within a thirty second walk (literally), so if anyone- a. Wants me to get them a ticket to this show (it's half the price of the NYC show, not to mention parking, food and drink savings) b. Needs directions to the theater c. Needs a place to stay d. wants to get together for dinner, drinks, other substances, whatever, before the show e. Wants to know good places to eat, hang out, etc. in New Haven, or f. Wants to arrange a tape trade to be carried out at the show (thus saving on postage and hassle), let me know and I'll be more than happy to discuss matters with you. The only one I'm not sure about is (c), but it shouldn't be a problem. Now for a question- Does anyone know how I might rent or borrow a portable DAT or hi quality portable analog machine? It seems that DMB and God Street Wine are playing here on consecutive nights- a taper's dream, but I don't have any decent recording equipment. I was thinking of calling Terrapin Tapes and seeing what they can do for me, since they are located only 40 minutes or so from here. Any input would be greatly appreciated (I don't want to buy a machine and then return it after the shows.) Now for the second matter. I posted a few days ago that Dave told me song - Dave confused the two songs - Dave was lying - The drugs are beginning to wear on my memory, or - Song #34 IS on the album. Any of these are possibilities, but only the last one seems really likely. If I'm wrong, so be it. Another enjoyable DMB tune will be there in it's place. If I'm right, one or two folks out there owe me an apology. I must say, however, the general mood in this group is a friendly one. Nice to see after visiting the phishnet.Top Permalink
Incidentally, I STILL can't believe #34 and Best of What's Around are going to be on an album. Ah, ain't life grand? ah yes, funny you should mention that. this cd came out today (widespread panic, for those who don't know), and i heartily recommend it to any and all wsp fans on this net, that net, or any ol' net a person could choose to be on right now. lots of new, diverse tangents from this seasoned athens band, with lots of great, rocked out widespread that we all know and love. if you've never heard of them, you have now, and you should hear more of them, so go check out this cd and kick back and enjoy. (icehouse, anyone?) ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
where is the virginia amphitheater and will dmb be playing there on the 27th? brian. "I should only believe in a God that would know how to dance."Top Permalink
well, i just sent out the final lyrics file. if you didn't get it, dupuy@virgo.hks.com who bounced because he/she doesn't exist. and shanker@pop.cis.yale.edu who bounced because his mailbox is full. (that's actually a new one for me.) i just sent it out about 15 minutes ago, so i may not have all the bounced copies, yet. if i get any more, i'll post and we can track everyone down. once again, the mailing list is no more, because the file is chock full of songs. the only songs are heathcliff's haiku warriors (personal name for a song with no name), two step, and #34, the last two i think were sent to me, but became victims of one of my occasional mail purges. when those are sent to me, if it's not via the net, i'll post them, and then you'll have everything. (yippee!!) also, for those that want an electronic copy but don't have one, i do keep the lyrics to r2t filed in my account, so let me know if you want those, too. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
hello exchange (tori amos on the cover). inside is an article on the band i haven't had a chance to read it but if the guy putting together the article file wants it or if people want it posted let me know and i'll type it up. also if ellis could send me a note i need to talk to you about phish at uva and i'm to lazy to look for your address. oh well see you all around. just counting the days till the 27th mattTop Permalink
out in about a week and will contain, among other things, minarets.net subscription information...so be prepared all...there may be a large influx of new subscribers soon. here are the latest tour dates..straight from the horses mouth...: remember to call before you haul.... From Good Homes are opening for Dave at a bunch of these dates... alex crothersTop Permalink
where is the virginia amphitheater and will dmb be playing there on the 27th? brian. ___ "I should only believe in a God that would know how to dance." -nietzche Brian and all- The amphitheater is on the grounds of the university of virginia. If you come in off of University Ave, and drive down the throughway through campus, passing the library and the admissions office on your right, and the LAwn and the Range on your left, right before you go through the bus gates, you will see the amphitheater on your right set below the sidewalk--- any how, just go to the grounds and ask someone- I heard they will be playing there! KristinTop Permalink
To help clear up some speculation, here are the songs listed on my ---------(stop reading here if you'd prefer to continue to speculate :-)----- (side A) 1. Best of What's Around 2. What Would You Say 3. Satellite 4. Rhyme & Reasons 5. Typical Situation 6. Dancing Nancies (side B) 1. Ants Marching 2. Lover Lay Down 3. Jimithing 4. Warehouse 5. Pay For What You Get 6. #34 I like it a lot, but I'd like it even better without the repeats from the first disk. (Any reason for the repetition?) ShellyTop Permalink
6. #34 oh well...forget that I said (or rather, YELLED groggily...) "Bullshit" I still won't believe it until I hear it... lean upon me, I'll lean upon you, we'll be okay... BlakeTop Permalink
yes.. in reagards to matt who was looking for the 'guy' who is article/interview COE... i, clare emily, be that 'guy'. smirks and femimity... clare emily ps. matt.. that means... send me the article. :) ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
Hey everyone, it appears many of you are drifting back to school and minarets, so I might as well give a Chords File Update. Shawn has handed the file over to me. So. If anyone out there would like to be on the distribution list or would like to TRANSCRIBE a song or two... just send me some mail. Right now the song list is as follows (I have taken Shelly's word for what is and isn't on UTTAD) R2T = Remember Two Things (Bama Raga Records) UTTAD = Under The Table And Dreaming (RCA Recods) u = Unreleased Most of UTTAD is transcribed, but certainly not all of it (no Lover, no Rhyme, no Nancies, and only the intro of Satellite). Oops, now I'm in a hurry. Later everyone. Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
Please resubscribe me to the net.Top Permalink
Incidentally, I STILL can't believe #34 and Best of What's Around are going to be on an album. Ah, ain't life grand? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hi, I wrote that a few days ago but since it was interspersed with Adam's wise comments Rick (or was that Gregg, or someone else from JMU?) confused us. Just to complain for a minute, Tower Records didn't have Ain't Life Grand today, and neither did the Wiz. Plenty of R2T though. --BEN --immanuel kant Kant-- another WSP fan.Top Permalink
Hey there y'all! ticket for DMB at the Ritz, and I'm very psyched, cos I've never caught them live, just keep spinning my couple of tapes again and again. and other "special guests" that was right after Dave flew back from S africa after his sister's death. Was this some benefit concert, or was it for his sister's memory, or what? I've been curious. I also want to mention that the address for this list has been posted on the Phishnet and the dead net more than once, so if people were going to flood the place, I think they would have done it to some extent by now. I hope they don't too much. This is quite a friendly place. :) Take it easy, -DashTop Permalink
when i went to see dave at trax on nov 9, he played this peice of music twice, both times acoustically. the first time was with his acoustic opener set, the second time just moments before the band joined him for an encore. all i can say is that it was not the same song both times. yes, it was the exact same peice of music that we all know and love as say goodbye (or quick lay and goodbye), but the first time was a very dark, sinister, and downright evil tale of a cheap hook-up. the second time was the more soothing freindship based version that has become the song known as say goodbye. personally, i like it the way it is now, but i also know people who prefer the more sexist version as being more dark and really provoking emotion the rhyme and reason does. of things in a single post. is simple. it sucked on r2t. yes, that is subjective, but it's subject to a lot of agreement. it wasn't as powerful as dave fans know it can be, and that really, DULL, thing that carter did had a great way of annoying people who've never heard the band before. as for satellite, well, i'm one of the few and far b/w people who was annoyed by the song when i first heard it, so it doesn't matter to me anyway. your guess is as good as mine. your mail bounced. if anyone knows him or his correct address, either send it to me, or send him a copy of the lyrics file. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
When asked after his 1994 WTJU Folk Marathon appearance what the name of the song was, Dave replied that it was Say Goodbye. When questioned as to why it wasn't called Quick Lay & Goodbye, a much cooler name, Dave responded that since the song was about a good friend of his, that name wouldn't really be appropriate. Is that about right, Chris? Latah... DanTop Permalink
hello people keep seeing these posts about the net being flooded and getting hostile. I don't think minarets has anything to worry about. Look at some of the other nets that are getting somewhat known. finewine, blues traveler net, horde net. not bad places. haven't seen any problems on any of them except when someone attacks a member of BT then the people on the blues traveler net get defensive but that's just loyalty. I think what it has to do with is the fans. Now i haven't been on minarets for to long acctually i've only been on a matter of weeks. but i've heard from other people and seen my self that this is a cool net. one of the problems with the phishnet is that the fans are hostile to a point (not talking about all of them i subscribe my self). you have those who have been with the band since the begining and don't like new comers because it means they can't just go to a club pay a cover charge and walk in to see phish. so i think if you just keep the real nice vibe you have here and just remain nice then you'll keep it real cool here. and think of it this way with new people comes new tapes :). and to those who are worrying about subscribe me posts well finewine has very few if any of them. the BT net only had a problem with it when the newsletter gave the wrong address (and dabe set up some kind of filter to knock alot of those out). not to mention i've never seen the address for the net with out the subscribe address as well. so just keep everything as groovy as it currently is and i think this could be a blessing in disguise. sorry about the length of this post i felt i had to express my views bye bye mattTop Permalink
Hey now, been around Phishnet and Deadnet a bit over the last year, so I'm not completely clueless. It seems pretty cool so far. My main point of this message is a GROVEL. Yes the G-word. I have absolutely 0 hours of DMB, ,although I do have over 250 hours of Dead, Phish, Widespread, and the Samples. If there are any kind sould out there (I know there are), I'd appreciate some help in getting started. My roommates and I are really interested in scoring some tapes. Also, any chance of a trip to the Midwest during the post-album release tour??? A show in Ohio/Kentucky/Indiana/Illinois/Michigan would be quite cool. Later, later, later, and thanks for listening.Top Permalink
Hello All, It's time for a tree of the following show : 5-27-93 : One Sweet World, Satellite, Recently, Typical Situation, Minarets, Dancing Nancies, Lie In Our Graves, Stream, Pay For What You Get, Warehouse, Help Myself, Tripping Billies, Christmas Song, Tim Jam, Two-Step, Granny, Ants Marching, Best Of What's Around, I'll Back You Up, Watchtower, So Much To Say, Angel From Mongomery I belive the show is from the Prism, but I could be wrong. I takes up 99% of a 120min dat so it means were looking at 1 dat or 2 cassettes. If interested please fill out the cut & paste form and return to grayp@pinn.net by Saturday Sept 17. -----------------------------------cut here----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- enjoy, grayTop Permalink
I must venture a chance to agree on two counts. The Ants on R2T sucks. What happened to just the no-intro Ants, or the Ants that was spurred by the 2001 theme??? Or the Ants that was bred out of Gooey Thing??? These annoy me, and I really, REALLY hope that this Ants is much better. Secondly, to those of you who were able to catch Satellite when Peter was with the band can remember the power and drive it had, not to mention the fact that it was just plain FAST! The Satellites they've been doing are about 1/2 the speed of those that I have on tape from when Peter was with them...not to mention it was much more fun to experience on stage. Oh well...we can always hope, and for those of us who are stuck in the past, well, we can listen to our tapes with Cry Freedom, Spotlight, People People, So Much To Say and Eyes of the Maker, and reminisce in the days when the highest amount of people at Trax on a Tuesday to see Dave were maybe 75, and we could sit on the floor if we wanted to... WadeTop Permalink
Seeing as that I didn't start classes until today, I had the pleasure of going down to Hollins tuesday night to hang out at their infamous apartment parties. I was standing in this one girls apartment, when in walks carter with his girlfriend, who lived their. Turns out they are on vacation for a few weeks. I chatted breifly with him on unimpartant topics like his cool drums on say goodbye and an unplugged show they didi in late 92, then he had to use the bathroom and I never saw him again. He wasn't getting horded by people when I saw him, but I hear he was signing socks and beercans at another apartment, Oh well...... till next time.. *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.2 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Hello, greetings and salivations! 1) It's great to be back to hear from fellow followers of the great quintet. 2) I can't wait for the album! 3) I heard a possibly nasty rumor [if it's false] that REM's "Monster" is coming out on the same date as the new DMB disc. If that's the case, or even if it's not, is there the possibility of a "Midnight Madness" sale on that Tuesday? sol.id, but also some off of _Labrador_ and it all rocked! I tried to get a tape of the show, but a) even though I live in W-S while not a student, I'll admit Ziggys' board is fairly old and getting slowly obsolete, and b) I made the mistake of not getting my tapedeck to record the show. I did talk to the guys before and after and they enjoyed it and said that PiKA at Davidson was in their fall plans. Any fans out there who haven't heard "everything" should not pass go, collect about $14 bucks and go buy Labrador, or get more money and get sol.id too! If anyone wants to ride down for the possible show I have sadly but one poor quality show here in 93 and I'm still looking for my Samples boot from the board here.email me! 5)Lastly, I have only been back for a short time, but DMB is still a rockin' groovy cool place to netsurf and communicate. Let's keep it that way. I think any administrator's worst nightmare is seeing a flamewar develop and understand DMB in a positive friendly environment. Hopefully, we'll keep it that way. Hope ya'll had great summers and I look forward to reading and posting on the best run mailing list (except Rush's The National Midnight Star, but it has a huge budget for over 3000 subscribers) for the coming years. Peace!- WF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
I've been looking over my own personal list of songs I expected to see on UTTAD, and the only one I haven't seen any mention of is . . . Typical Situation What happened here? Is this song not worthy? typical situation is on the album.... Also, does anyone remember talk back in January about Dave going up to write some songs with John Alagia? Did that fall apart when Dave was called away by events surrounding his sister's death? Frankly, we've only gotten one new song in the past year. this is a big gripe i have with the dave matthews band...where are the new songs??? i remember Boyd saying more than six months ago that he was working on a new one, but......? things are going well, let's keep them rolling..... alex crothersTop Permalink
To note, Kristin very well identifies where the amphitheater IS, but those aren't the best directions for parking, esp. since Central Grounds is closed to thru-traffic during the day (perhaps til 5:30; sometimes varies.) Also, there is NO PARKING in Central Grounds, besides the fact that if DMB plays that Amphitheater there will also be NO WALKING space anywhere nearby. The amphitheater is very open. You should be able to stand at the upper levels or just outside and have a great view, not to mention better sound, and not have to pay to go down into the thing. Actually, the bigger events at this amphitheater often overflow to the point that you cant get inside anyway. I HIGHLY recommend coming early. UVA (eg not up the ramps into central grounds), to JPA, and park in the lot across from the C-shaped Old Cabell Hall. From here, it is a 2 minute walk (across the street and up the hill). You may get ticketed (towing unlikely; never seen it) if you park there before 5 (actually, i think the guy checks no later than 330), but youre also allowed one ticket per car per year in Cville. ellis P.S. I agree with Shelly RE repeats. I don't get it. Starting to remind me of the Spin Docs and their repetitious release of the same songs, live from different places. Argh. So much more material. People'll find the great early stuff once they catch on, and they're less likely to buy both if they've already got a chunk of the material (aren't they?) FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digestTop Permalink
Now for the second matter. I posted a few days ago that Dave told me song - Dave confused the two songs - Dave was lying - The drugs are beginning to wear on my memory, or - Song #34 IS on the album. #34 is on the album..instrumental of course alex crothersTop Permalink
(side A) 1. Best of What's Around 2. What Would You Say 3. Satellite 4. Rhyme & Reasons 5. Typical Situation 6. Dancing Nancies (side B) 1. Ants Marching 2. Lover Lay Down 3. Jimithing 4. Warehouse 5. Pay For What You Get 6. #34 I like it a lot, but I'd like it even better without the repeats from the first disk. (Any reason for the repetition?) _what would you say_ is with Popper and Tim Reynolds plays on many of the other songs [all?] alex crothersTop Permalink
This is just a notice for those of you who have yet to get the Recently cd...PLAN 9 records, here in Ch'ville, is selling all of the copies they have to get rid of them. Evidently, due to a conflict with RCA records, production and sale of the Recently cd must be halted on FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 9. For those of you who have yet to get your copies of it, you have one day. I dno't know if it will still be available over mail order or at shows, but my assumption would be that it is NOT. Record companies have ways of fucking with bands like that. I do remember talking to Dave about Recently the night they recorded Watchtower and Halloween for it (after the show) and he said that they -might- be able to put out an ep with some stuff on it, if RCA would let them, and well, they did. But as recordcompanies can do, since Recently came out as an indie ep, after DMB had signed, RCA holds the rights to have it pulled off the market. However, who's to say that it might never be re-released after UTTAD comes out, and then as an RCA release, not Bama Rags. So the main points-- 1) If you haven't gotten Recently yet, get it. 2) If you have gotten it, get another, cuz it might be worth some money one day, if DMB is around for like 15 years. You all know how much old Aerosmith and Zep bootlegs are worth these days, I mean the ones on album, not like Dead tapes. Just thought you all would like to know, WadeTop Permalink
the prism show that just got treed is from 4-22-93, not 5-27-93. llater, kerryTop Permalink
Can anyone send me any confirmed dates for DMB. Is it true that DMB might be coming up here to Montreal??? A reply would be greatly appreciated. KwonTop Permalink
COuld somebody please mail the address to get signed up for the Dave/Tim tree recently posted? I thought I sent it to the right address, but it bounced and I deleted the original message...Thank you. BrianTop Permalink
To clarify, the show that I am treeing is not from 4-22-93, I have both and it is definatly a different tape. As we know, 4-22 is the prism, I am speculating that 5-27 is also a prism ----------------- i'm with stupid- ----------------- the prism show that just got treed is from 4-22-93, not 5-27-93. llater, kerryTop Permalink
The new REM CD is indeed coming out September 27th. Oh my. What does this mean? I can't think of any implications... Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
Any chance that someone who lives in an area where Recently is available could pick one up for me before it's taken out of circulation? I'll happily send an appropriately-sized SASE & a check...or a Phish cd, if you prefer. ;-) ShellyTop Permalink
yep, monster will be out on the 27 of november. should be interesting nights at record (cd) stores in h-burg, lexington, c-ville and richmond, to say the least. one cool thing about that, though, is that every damn city in the nation will have at least one midnight madness sale, so places where dave isn't as well known will still be opening to have a major cd sell-a-thon. i recommend getting to such places early, 'cuz we're going to have to deal with a lot of stipeheads (for that matter, does anybody have $32 i can borrow to by a coupla new cd's coming out in about 2 weeks?:) kicked assholeman off. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
kicked assholeman off. I beg your pardon? I've never "kicked off" anyone from the Phish.Net. Could you clarify that remark, please? Thanks. ShellyTop Permalink
yup. he's a fool. i think our silly freak meant to say that monster and under the table... blah blah blah will be out the 27th of SEPTEMBER. yes, that's right, folks... 21 days. i know you all know this, but there's gonna be _somebody_ out there to send freak mail in freaking out cause he (or she.. i do not neglect that there are females on the net like some do) read that dumb rick wrote nov instead of sept. are we all straight? good. and let's all be nice. this IS minarets.. it's like FRAGGLE ROCK minus the doozers and gorgs. can i be red? i always did love wimbley so.... silly 'ole me.... ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
with all the talk of the new album and what's to be on it, isn't anybody else out there upset that granny is yet to be released? ben even forgot it on his list of songs and what albums they were or weren't on. i just think it's a great song and i would have much rather found that on the new album that the repeats. just a thought though. jaimeTop Permalink
Well, but o'course I know Rick, and his shovelhead couldln't mean to much harm... Clare's always peaceful presence could divert huge breakouts of anoimosity... speaking of Granny...I had heard back in late 92 ish- early 93 even before I had comphrended a dave cd, that Granny was the first single, and when I saw them at Zollmans in 1993 I swore I was told I had heard a studio mix of it reverberating from the now long gone Ford Red Van "tourbus" with the uhaulit on back. Maybe I was an overanxious dave-head, but this is what I remeber, I do like the song (sorry rick) and have enjoyed its growth from 11-17-92 (david you're a nunu --- for those who own this tape) to the crowd pleasing love-baby version... who knows.. if dave put every song I've ever heard him do live on a disc the five disc box set would be out now... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.2 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
"Hope everyone is having an enjoyable evening on the town, down in the Flood Zone.... Down in Shokoe's bottom Who is Shokoe anyway? And how did they conclude that this was his bottom.. Or hers actually, I'm not sure If Shokoe is a boy or a girl.... hey hey hey (into minarets)" Dave Flood Zone 12/2/92 After multiple ramdom Dave statements like this, maybe a Dave quote file??? I know I got plenty of 'em.... P.S. Clare this is the tape I'm sending you *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.2 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Notice once I read my own post that Shokoe is Shockoe, i think, i mean I only live there, what the hell would I know, either way, still a concept to ponder... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.2 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Actually, this is not about UTTAD. There was a post made by somebody on here, who mentioned that this net was second only {to RUSH'S NATIONAL MIDNIGHT STAR. What I would like to know is who made that post, and how to get on the National Midnight Star. I apologize for not doing this privately, but I deleted the message. So if the kind soul who made this statement would kindly get in touch with me, I would be most appreciative. I used to be on TNMS a yearago or so, but I've changed email accounts...oh well. Thanks~r!!! WadeTop Permalink
First- I'm usually a pretty nice guy, but I just can't resist. Sorry. OK- a while back I put up a post for trades for the Dave/Tim Birchmere show. Well, the tape is here. It all fits on one 90 min. tape, so I'm going to ask that people get another tape from me as well and, in return, I can get a full show from them. The tape sounds good, considering that it's an audience tape, since the Birchmere was so quiet. BHT set- HORDE 8-26-94 Merriweather Post Blues Traveler Set- 8-26-94 (sbd) 2/3 of DMB set plus some Allmans- 8-26-94 DMB- 12-11-93 Williams College (full show 100 min) Try to avoid the DMB show unless you don't like any of the other bands- it's a 100 min tape, meaning extra time and $ from my end. Due to time restraints, this offer is open only to- EWHESSE@amherst.edu CLIFFORD@urvax.urich.edu btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu mxgall@mail.wm.edu wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu These are the people who responded to my original offer. Sorry to close it. Persons listed above- Please keep in mind that you are the 3rd through 8th tape traders to have a copy of this show. Please keep it sort of under wraps. Even though we got permission from Dave and Jeff to tape and trade copies of the show, the Birchmere folks must've taken us of the board for a reason. As I said before, my 1st trade request is the Phish 4-20-94 Lexington show, followed by any recent dmb. If neither of these is plausible, make me another offer. I'll be in touch soon.Top Permalink
was that you Ben? ****Also a quick note since there have been alot of new subscribers lately...if you want to receive minarets in a package [about once a day set minarets mail digest TO listproc@moose.uvm.edu alex crothersTop Permalink
i am officially preforming the first net-knighting on chris. because he has a beautiful soul that shines, and cause he's good to everyone. (even though he does send me SERIOUSLY drunken mail quite often...) [tap tap] love and light, clare emily ******************************************************************************** ********************************************************************************Top Permalink
On the way home from work yesterday, I heard the wwys with Popper on the radio. Really took me by suprise, but great to hear it. Off to the Norfolk blues festival.Top Permalink
hello do. i don't have a cool name for it yet any ideas? let me know. basically it's just a list of mailing addresses for HORDE bands. along with the mailing addresses is the news groups and email lists where they exist. right now this being the second installment and everything this is really inadequate. if the band isn't on here i don't have info so send it to me. if you see something that's wrong tell me i'll correct it. i'm not sure how often i'll be putting this out. if anyone has any ideas on makeing this run a little smoother let me know. this is my first list so any help will be nice. well now on with the list. first thanks to everyone who has helped so far. first to Bruce Willner for forwarding most of the information in this to me and to everyone else who has sent me mail. note the address change at the end. some of you just forwarded mail last time to this account and that's where it's supposed to go for now. I'm still waiting for them to unlock my other accout so if you mailed me at the muselab.ac.runet.edu account i might get your mail i might not so if you could mail it to this one it would be better. should be at the permant Acoustic Junction Allman Bros. Band Aquarium Rescue Unit The Authority Bela Fleck & The Flecktones Big Head Todd and The Monsters Blindman's Holiday Blues Traveler Dave Matthews Band God Street Wine The Hatters (fomally known as the Mad Hatters) HORDE Jambay Mystery Jones Omar Saeed Quintet The Other Half Other People Out of The Blue phish Rusted Root Samples Santana Soul Hat Spin Doctors Widespread Panic Zero Well that's all i have now. i'll send another one out when i can get a little more information. please if you know something that isn't here or if you see an error let me know at msweeney@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu. thanks and keep grooveing matt sweeneyTop Permalink
as you all can see i've gotten this account finally working... if there is anyone out there who has an article about the band, or an interview (on paper or on tape)... send these things to me now. NOW. if you'd rather not take the effort of transcribing either of these things to send me email wise (lazy bums...) then feel free to send these things to me snmail. 609 north main street #5 blacksburg,virginia 24060 and if absolutely necessecary (and you're willing to rack up $ to ma bell) 703.552.11819 once i've got the influx of articles in my possession and net-ready, i'll send out the whole file to the net. (alex, tell me if you think this might pose a problem) smiles to all.. and my university of richmond account is still active and i'll be basically using it more often... but still send all zany mail to either address... clare emily *************************************************************************** 'i was wondering where the ducks went when the lagoon got all icy and frozen over. i wondered if some guy came in a truck and took them away to a zoo or something. or if they just flew away' ***************************************************************************Top Permalink
1) The National Midnight Star is still in existence and churning out much mail for RushFans [tm]. To get the digest, send a message with subscribe as the only text to rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu . It may take a few days since that part of the list is not automated and last year the syrinx drive had troubles. POOR college student with two cool discs and a great weekend to show for my money [ we have homecoming the weekend before]. 3) Did anyone else notice, or did every cool band release an album this month[ or at least just about every cool band] (i.e. DMB, Blues Traveler, the Samples, REM, Widespread Panic...). At this rate, I will not even be able to pay my fraternity dues! Argh! I would not like to play with a fool holding a hand with a one-eyed jack of spades, unless I was shooting the moon and I had the queen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples "The boy pulls down his baseball cap and covers up his eyes."-NP in Analog Kid --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
After EXTENSIVE research (i.e. 2 minutes going "uhhhhhhhhh this one") I have come up with a list of 10 songs that really need to be transcribed. I'm only sending this to the list because (a) it's been dead the last few days (b) I'd like to remind everyone of the curious statistic that of 21 people who receive the chords file, only 5 people have ever transcribed a song... Tripping Billies Recently Satellite (besides the intro) Dancing Nancies Rhyme & Reason Spotlight Eyes of The Maker Drive In, Drive Out Granny True Reflections Ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************** * "We shed a tear that one day we * -- Ben Sterling -- * * may no longer need them." * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- * * - Dave Matthews * -- New York, NY -- * **************************************************************************Top Permalink
I don't know if there is a setlist file somewhere or not, but I need the setlist for the subject show. I could use the venue name too. Thanks, -Joe DohenyTop Permalink
5-27-93 (not sure of the venue)-One Sweet World, Satellite, Recently, Typical Situation, Minarets, Dancing Nancies, Lie In Our Graves, Stream, Pay For What You Get, Warehouse, Help Myself, Tripping Billies, Christmas Song, Tim Jam, Two-Step, Granny, Ants Marching, Best Of What's Around, I'll Back You Up, Watchtower, So Much To Say, Angel From Montgomery. This show is not 4-22 despite the similarity. Sound quality is awesome (clone of the master dat). If interested fill out the form and return to grayp@pinn.net by friday. ------cut here--------- # copies you can make (what format): ----end------- ----------------- i'm with stupid- -----------------Top Permalink
well i've now really annoyed everyone on the concert committe here at school. here is the deal. as the first line indicates i'm on the concert committee here at Radford Univ. (near VA TECH right on 81) today I went to the second meeting. Missed the first one. I found out today that DMB is in our price range but only about four people on the comm. have heard of them. And since the first show has to do really well no one will listen to me when i go "but dave mattews....". so here is my call to minarets. how many of you guys would be willing to come the distance to Radford Univ. to see the guys. The deal would be as such. THe deadmon center(sp?) holds 23,000 people so we need a lot of people for this to work. Average ticket prices are $14-15. UM no ticket master. also information desk (where tickets are sold) don't take phone orders (but with the management do that ticket thing i heard they do). um i can't think of anything else. If you think this is pointless let me know if you would come let me know and about how many people you would bring. please only email me if you there is a real chance of you coming or if you think i'm just grasping at straws here (hey i've never seen them and can't find a ride to UVA [hint hint]). oh yeah Radford is right on 81 first exit after christiansburg when your going south. if I can get alot of address and interest from people I plan to take it to the next meeting in one week on the 18th. well i guess i've rambled enough bye bye and sorry but I had to do this (we can't book phish or Blues Traveler so this is it). mattTop Permalink
after I posted the post about DMB at radford i got to thinking 23,000 is big really to big acctually. so i did some checking. as it turns out I was wrong. according to some book my roomie has deadmon holds 5,000 for concerts. now I swear hearing 23 something about capacity but the book says 5,000. so if that makes a diffence let me know. mattTop Permalink
I tried to reply to this but it bounce, so I figure I'd have to post it... Sorry to fill up you boxes, but we've been so inactive lately guess it dont matter anyhow I don't know if there is a setlist file somewhere or not, but I need the setlist for the subject show. I could use the venue name too. The possiblities for a setlist file has been discussed by a few netters, but so far none is in existence. The only help I can give you is this. If dave followed his normal Tues nite at Trax, Wed nite at flood Zone, you're show would be at Trax, (Charlottesville, Virginia) because I know ther3e was a 11-24-93 flood zone show. I can't confirm it, but a logical guess... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ | | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | | | |v3.2 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
after I posted the post about DMB at radford i got to thinking 23,000 is big really to big acctually. so i did some checking. as it turns out I was wrong. according to some book my roomie has deadmon holds 5,000 for concerts. now I swear hearing 23 something about capacity but the book says 5,000. so if that makes a diffence let me know. matt i think that makes a pretty big difference....Dave will not have nearly as much trouble filling 5000 seats as 23,000.....in fact, having Dave play at some venue that held 23,000 is a little ridiculus [even if it's in Virginia :) ] a 5000 seat Dave show in Virginia would be a great idea..... alex crothersTop Permalink