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GOTTLIEB@BU4090.BARRY.EDU Mon Feb 6 15:35:20 1995

To all,

Whoever mentioned that Dave should cover "Come On, Eileen," that's
a great idea.  Poor Kevin Rowland...wasn't he the lead singer?...
the comeback that never was.

As for Dave content, I got a tape in the mail that supposedly has 
People/People on it...does Dave still play this?

And what about twinkies...do they really have a shelf life 
of twenty years?  Talk about filler...

Mindless drivel with frequent bouts of lucidity,

ADAM
			

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Re: A Dave Story & Newbie Offer

glmillington@ucdavis.edu Mon Feb 6 15:56:15 1995


 What's fellas?
 Thought I'd relay a story of an encounter with Dave my little brother had
 last Wed.  Dave was playing at Lupo's in Prov, RI and my father wouldn't
 let my little bro, 14 years old, go because he had an exam the next day.  So
 he take my bro instead to Lupo's in the afternoon to get a T-Shirt.  As he
 walked in, Dave was doing his sound check and noticed his U Richmond hat
 I gave him for X-mas.  He called him over and asked if he went to UR.  Upon
 hearing that he did not and finding out that he wasn't going to go to the show,
 Dave offered to play a song instead.  SO what does my bro ask for? ANTS!?!?
 I was like you moron!  Anyway, Dave too thought that was a little lame so
 he asked again and my lil bro said that his big bro's fave Dave song, being me,
 is Two Step.  So he played that for him.  It always happens to the other guy
 eh?  I say Dave for Prez.
 
 Also, the first Five newbies with NO DMB boots to e-mail me back with
 their address will get a boot of their own and the address of the others to
 trade between them.  Whoever started that pattern was right on target.  Good
 luck!
 

My name is greg millington and I am interested in your offer. 



ps. I have a mother hips show if you are interested. E- mail me .


			

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Re: background music

cucr3@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Mon Feb 6 16:18:03 1995

 
 
 just another note on the subject of cool music in cool tv shows...
 a few weeks back,
 party of five (great and underrated new show on fox)
 played both big head todd and blues traveler
 in the same episode!
 now i'm just waiting to hear some dave....
 
 beth
 
I agree with you totally on both the quality of this show, and the 
quality of the backgroung music used on this show.  In addition to the 
above cool bands, I've also noticed Michael Penn (anybody remember him?), 
Liz Phair, Freedy Johnston, and Hootie and the Blowfish (I don't care if 
many of you think these guys are lame, I think theyre pretty good.)
Chris
			

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dexy's cover

cucr3@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Mon Feb 6 16:19:52 1995

Come on Eileen was an OK tune, but do you really think Dave should cover 
it.  I always thought the song was kinda cheezy myself.:)
Chris
			

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Re: MTV Commercials

nebulous@panix.com Mon Feb 6 16:23:34 1995

Overnight Dave has not only been elevated to Buzz Clip status but has
received Buzz Clip "Honorable Mention" in MTV's new commercials.  When I
heard about DaMaBa becoming a Buzz Clip, I feared it would soon be
incorporated into a "Plug Into MTV" commercial.  This morning about nine
o'clock I actually relieved to see a new MTV commercial with Portishead and
others but no Dave.  However, by noon they had added a introductory sound byte
of WWYS.  Whether you applaud this widespread attention or not, be assured
that every hour on MTV whether you are watching Sandblast or The Real
World, you can receive your daily dose of Dave on MTV.

Mark Crider
Washington & Lee

actually, this is somewhat interesting... there are TWO new ones... both
are the same... with the stupid diner talka bout waitress or something, but
one of them has dave, one doesn't.  this is odd because all of the other
videos (oasis, some other crappy bands) are the same, but dave is only in 1
of the 2.  weird huh? i've never noticed that happening before...

love baby.....ben


just another memo from the cellar,

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|  ben sterling...          new york, ny...                             |
|          ...friendly neighborhood psychopath...                       |
|                                         ...professional poseur...     |
|  ...five time mr. double dutch usa...                                 |
|                               ...orange tic tac connoisseur...        |
|                                                                       |
|  'curious things still do occur' ...bukowski.                         |
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Re: background music

nebulous@panix.com Mon Feb 6 16:23:44 1995


 just another note on the subject of cool music in cool tv shows...
 a few weeks back,
 party of five (great and underrated new show on fox)

oh my word...great and underrated?  in our country's greatest artistic
forum this is what passes for great?  i'm personally still waiting for

don't dis party of 5 unless you can handle the warth of clare emily.....


yes damn it i'm posting too much
but you see, this is extremely dave related since bht on party of 5 = dave
is touring with bht = bht were on party of 5 = dave will thus be on party
of 5 next week.

don't look at me funny, this is perfectly good logic.


just another memo from the cellar,

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|  ben sterling...          new york, ny...                             |
|          ...friendly neighborhood psychopath...                       |
|                                         ...professional poseur...     |
|  ...five time mr. double dutch usa...                                 |
|                               ...orange tic tac connoisseur...        |
|                                                                       |
|  'curious things still do occur' ...bukowski.                         |
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


			

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Rocky Mountian High...

messierb@ucsub.colorado.edu Mon Feb 6 16:32:40 1995

What's up net folks?  I am still chillin out here with no snow, but wish 
to change that.  I am planning to preform some type of ritualistic pagan 
type of snow dance to entice the clouds to cover me with that soft white 
shit.  And as we all know any worthwhile drumbeating pagan candlighting 
crazy dance type thing needs a good musical soundtrack to help appease 
the Gods of snow.  Since Dave has been bringing me such good karma as of 
late I figure I will use Dave's great vibes to summon my snow.  But what 
song is the question?  So if you have any ideas as to what song best goes 
with this kind of thing (some of you may have experience in these 
matters) please drop me a line.  #36 comes to mind as the absolute 
groovyest, but does it have the crazy spirtual power I need?  Or then 
agian 4 degrees from Tool could do wonders...

Also I really need to get on the Web, how do I go about publishing my 
page?  Anyone who can help me out on this would be greatly thanked, and I 
will dance for some snow for you if you want it.

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


			

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Big fat question from a newbie

Tomczak@aol.com Mon Feb 6 16:45:04 1995

Hey everyone,
I promise no stupid questions.  I just requested the FAQ's out of fear of
being flamed.  I'm from Maine and I am a high school junior student/part time
DJ at a local college.  I have seen DMB twice in what I belive are their only
two Maine appearances at the HORDE and 1/28 at Bates College in Lewiston. (If
anyone knows of any other shows in Maine, I'd be curious to know where and
when.)  Anyway I have a tremendous hunger for DMB tapes, but I have no tapes
as I have only seen the band twice, and have no cash for equipment.  So if
all anyone ever does is trade tapes and tapes for newbies are kept at what
seems to be highly limited qualities, how the fuck is a guy like me in a
state like Maine, oft-neglected by several bands, supposed to hear any of the
stuff that's out there.  I understand people attempting to ward off
teeny-boppers/ poseurs and I suppose there's no way to prove that one is or
isn't in such a medium as this, but I am a fellow DMB fan and music lover in
general.  The only tapes that ever get circulated in my school are Phish, the
occasional Pearl Jam, and if you're damn lucky you might see ONE Allman Bros.
tape.  If anyone wants to help me out I'm willing to give up some of my very
limited funds if that is what it takes.  Or if anyone is into exposing
newbies to good shit I'll pay for postage.  If you've made it this far thanks
for at least listening to a new voice.  
Tom
tomczak@aol.com
"If you could keep me floating, just for a while, till I get to the end of
this tunnel..........."
			

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Edwin McCain Discussion Group

POPEM@tiger.hsc.edu Mon Feb 6 16:48:13 1995

There is a newly formed discussion group for 

THE EDWIN McCAIN BAND


for more info, contact     sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu 
			

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dave doing covers

nrich Mon Feb 6 16:53:43 1995


I always kind of liked "Come on Eileen".  :)  But then again, I find myself 
humming to those embarrasing 80's collection tapes they are always 
hawking on TV.  If Dave wasn't into Dexy, how about a little Soft Cell 
"Tainted Love"?  Or better yet, how about "My Shorona" by the Knack? I 
roller skated to that song at my fifth grade roller rink birthday party, 
eek!  

Before I get my butt flamed straight to hell, please note the sarcasm and 
"I'm kidding, for goddsakes!" quality embedded within this post.  
Although I am unfortunately serious about liking cheesy 80's music.


			

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Big girls on't cry

KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu Mon Feb 6 16:59:39 1995

_I_remember Micheal Penn, I love Micheal Penn.  Anybody who likes good videos
should check out his for "It's a long way down (Look what the cat dragged in)".
That's a great video, in the same style that TOOL later used for theirs as well
as some small band from Wisconsin that I can never remember the name of (No,
NOT Weezer!!!!)  Beth, you are so very kind, your tapes shall be awaiting you
at 3rd street. :)  Mike, I recieved your tapes today and if you want I can put
your show on TDK (explained in the letter) and have it out today! That's right,
out bookstore restocked on envelopes and I bought _every damn one of 'em_!!!! I
thought of a really cool song that DMB should cover, but for the life of me I
can't remember what it was! Well, I still think a Cat Stevens cover would be
the musical equvilent of an orgasm. Goodbye, farewell, adieu!!

P.S.-Does anybody have a copy of _Play_, everythings first cd?  My copy was
stolen two summers ago and they don't sell it anymore (they hated that cd).  I
came across a copy of "Peace Dance" on an old mix I made and fell in love again
with that song.  I am willing to pay a decent price for that cd. Thanks!

"The peace dance is calling you so take it by the hand
come trip the light fantastic with the world as your lover and
feel the power of my embrace, read into me my joy
feel the salty wetness of my tears as they begin the clensing of

Only people who actually like this album may smoke in my messages 
			

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Birthdays

BRS97@UNO.CC.GENESEO.EDU Mon Feb 6 17:08:20 1995

Does anybody happen to know any of the band members birthdays?
Just curious.
-Bruce
"And the calm away by the storm is chasen"
			

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a word about dexy's midnight runners

STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Mon Feb 6 17:25:51 1995

at the time that come on eileen came out, the premier place to see videos
was on friday night videos (nbc) and usa night flight, so don't blame
mtv for that one.  nobody knew about mtv back then, and those that did
actually thought it was cool.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
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Miscellaneous Ramblings

hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu Mon Feb 6 17:26:44 1995


1) Party of five Rules (Kirstin is magically babe-licious)

2) I still have not seen the WWYS vid.  I refuse to sit thru all the do-me
hip-hop love pieces of sh** for songs, not to mention all the other stupid
non-music shows they have.  Has it been on VH-1??

3) Edwin McCain will be in town three times(count 'em) in February!!!

4) Who plays harmonica on the 11-17-92 So Much to Say??

5) Anybody know the band's plans for April?? I hear they might be coming to
the Southeast.  Any truth to that?

6) Do they still make Boo-Berry cereal??


Lurking from sunny (but cool) Florida...
Brian

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vday and the impeding gathering

cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Mon Feb 6 17:30:39 1995



regarding the Minarets valetines day gathering....
anyone else possibly or definitely coming drop me a line....
(besides rick and clare, i already know about that)

we just trying to get a head count...i know some of those above are 
bringing more than one person, so you dont have to tell me again...
this is not some crisis situation though, were just curious, it will 
happen either way and you can attend...

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|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96  7 West Preston St.  Lexington Va. 24450	|
|v5.1	 slimmed down .sig for Ben Sterling's convenience		|
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Howdy, Howdy, Howdy!!!!!!!

WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU Mon Feb 6 17:32:08 1995

learned is the only good thing besides the nearby IHOP in my humble hometown
on Winston-Salem.... If anyone out there can name the club that used to reside
down the street from Ziggy's, I'll spin anything in my collection for
you...That's right, a strange but true newbie offer....

Bagby of the Week Trivia Question, for which the winner will recieve a cool
the all time coolest place to see a band, but what is the name of the club
nearby which burned to the ground a few years ago?"

Seriously, the first person to correctly name that club gets a cool bagby, or
a Nichol [ everything boot ], or something else they want... I will restrict
the offer to people with 4 or fewer bootlegs of all sorts...  You can get help
from older fans, in case they know the name...there's no time limit, but it is
only the first person...

here in my suit getting ready to go to dinner, listening to cool tunes...


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RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
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Palace Theater 2/5/94

BaeuC@aol.com Mon Feb 6 17:40:23 1995


Satellite
Tripping Billies
One Sweet World
Jimi Thing
Rhyme & Reason
Lover Lay Down
Recently--
No.36--
Ants Marching
Dancing Nancies


The show smoked, especially from Lover Lay Down on.  The Dancing Nancies
after the expected closer of Ants was a nice surprise, as was the Watchtower
encore( they havnt played a lot of encores due to the double bill, have they)
Any way Watchtower was hot, great show.

Anyone tape it??, I have alot to trade

Later-
Beau
			

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Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings

chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Mon Feb 6 17:45:31 1995

one of the questions in this thread was : who plays harmonica in the 
11.17 so much to say ...
PEEETAHHH !!  peter geiser played harmonica on so much to say 
that was his role ..harmonica and keyboards
his abscence  probably expalins why the band doesnt play the song anymore
he was sortof umm  key

now heres my question 
whats the difference between harmonica and mouth harp?  i  mean i  think 
i know  the technical differecne but in everyday use  .. would it be just 
as normal to hear someone say "popper jams on the mouth harp"  as it 
would be to say 
"popper is a groovin harmonica player"  ??? huh huh 
smiles 
catherine

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If you want to get a sure crop with a big yield, sow wild oats.
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Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings

cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Mon Feb 6 17:46:01 1995

 1) Party of five Rules (Kirstin is magically babe-licious)
Julia...Julia...Julia....oooooo.....
Valerie (Tiffany Aber-Theisen) from 90210 still takes the cake
 2) I still have not seen the WWYS vid.  I refuse to sit thru all the do-me
me either, guess i will now because of buzz clip status
 3) Edwin McCain will be in town three times(count 'em) in February!!!
I'm jealous, thats all i have to say.....way jealous
 4) Who plays harmonica on the 11-17-92 So Much to Say??
Peter Griesar, the keyboardist, i think they should have used John Popper 
on that one....
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|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96  7 West Preston St.  Lexington Va. 24450	|
|v5.1	 slimmed down .sig for Ben Sterling's convenience		|
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Spinnin' Tapes

bpharm!uvm.edu!Kelly.Hale@sadye.EMBA.UVM.EDU Mon Feb 6 18:18:20 1995

Although this post contains no DMB content, a lot of you, especially
"newbie" tape-makers, might be interested in the following helpful hints.  
taping thing seriously, a friend of mine, whom I consider an expert
tape-maker, gave me the following guidelines.  I found them extremely
helpful, so I decided to pass them on.  This is a pretty long post, so if
you don't have time to read it now, print it out or save it for later!


before
each tape, when recording, or every 20 hr. or so of playback. a very small
particle in the wrong place is enough to seriously affect high-frequensy
response, i.e. cymbals, vocal sibilance, the spaciousness of music.cleaning
should be performed with power OFF, using either q-tips and denatured
alcohol(90% or higher, not rubbing alcohol), or cleaning cassette available
at
music stores, electronic stores, and such.using q-tips, swab lightly to
remove
contaminants in direction of tape travel and check when complete to ensure
no
cotton fibers are left behind.
and
always when beginning a taping session. again, there are commercially
available
demag. cassettes for this, and no more complicated than inserting cassette,
pressing play, and removing after 5 seconds. 
equalization requirements. many decks make this selection automatically by
reading notches cut into top of cassette, but if your deck has switches on
front
labeled as above, they must be set to tape type being used

current to be applied during recording(only) to provide flat frequency
response,
bias
required is different for every tape, and should be adjusted to match tape
being
used. additionally, all tapes have differing sensitivities, and front-panel
adjustments are provided on some(more expensive) decks to facilitate
matching(this adjustment more important if dolby noise reduction is used).
i'll
get into making these adjustments shortly, but for those for whom adjustment
is
not possible, a close match is still possible. assemble a variety of
tapes(i.e.
maxell xlii, xlii-s, tdk sa, sa-x, and maxell and tdk metal tapes, if you
want

tones
required for setup. again, some tape decks have tone generators built in,
but
most don't. this cd is available from mcm electronics at ph.#
1-800-543-4330,
unsure of cost(also might be available through local hi-fi shop or radio
shack).
however, the test disc is not absolutely necessary, as i'll explain


first, on a clean deck, record the 400 hz tone  at meter indication of 0 db.
when this is played back, it should be at the same level (0db) it was
recorded,
plus or minus  2 db (1 db if using dolby). if the tone is not available,
record
some fm radio music with peaks at approx. 0 db. when played back, the
recording
should be also peaking at 0 db (or whatever it was recorded at). use
whatever
tape gives you the closest match, and continue on. 
hiss, and record some of that at a level of -30 db on your tape deck's
meters(no
higher). then play it back, and switch back and forth between the continuing
fm
hiss and your recording. listen for differences, i.e., brighter or duller
quality, between the source and tape.(test discs use 10 khz tone, likewise
tone
generators). if they're reasonably close, repeat the process with your
favorite
well-recorded tape or disc--if they're still fairly similar, you're done!...
bear in mind that even minor differences in volume between source and tape
during this comparison will always make the louder music sound
better(brighter).
if your source machine has output level adjustment, use it to match volume
as
closely as possible

up by
using the bias adjustment achieve as similar sound as possible, then repeat
with
music. on most tape decks with this adjustment, turning the knob in the
minus
direction will make tape brighter, plus direction to make duller, but your
owner's manual should tell you what's what; follow their instructions.

always use that tape and you'll be jammin'. this should be repeated every
year
or so, as manufacturers periodically reformulate their tapes; if the
appearance
of the tape you're using(i.e. outer wrapper, printing on cassette itself,
shell
design) changes, it's a good bet that tape itself has also changed, and
should
be checked. 

highest
possible sound quality, be virtually identical to the source(disregarding
tape
hiss), and will also help your tape deck to last longer.   for those who
find
tape hiss bothersome, this setup will also allow dolby noise reduction to be
used without affecting frequency response.  .......discussionof dolby
operation
follows for interested parties....     have fun!!!


low-amplitude, high frequency information contained in music by approx. 10
db.
during playback, low-volume high-freq. info is reduced in volume by the same
amount, restoring natural frequency response to the music. tape hiss is
therefore reduced by 10 db upon playback(not being present in recorded
signal,
it was never boosted). dolby B nr operates over a narrower range of
frequencies
than does dolby C, and is much less finicky. without the assistance of tone
generators anf fine adjustments, i don't recommend using dolby C. 

sensitivity mismatch between deck and tape, primarily, and bias mismatch, to
a
lesser degree. if recorded signals play back at a different level than they
were
recorded(due to mismatch), that difference causes dolby circuits to
mistrack,
causing frequency response aberrations. also, any difference in signal
volume
introduced during the recording process is amplified by dolby circuits,
leading
to the belief among many that the use of dolby "cuts", or reduces
high-frequency
response. in fact, dolby can either cut, or boost high-freq. response,
depending
on whether mismatch makes for a brighter or duller tape by itself.   having
had
much experience with properly tweaked tape decks, i can honestly say that
i've
never heard any dolby-relatedrecording level frequency response problems on
a
properly operating deck closely matched to tape being used.

high as
possible without saturating the tape, which occurs when more energy is
applied
to the tape during recording than it is capable of storing. this is
especially
important when dolby noise reduction is not being used, to keep tape hiss
from
becoming bothersome. the first signs of tape saturation are  a dropoff in
high-frequency signals(cymbals and such), followed by the onset of audible
distortion and rough sound. this point should correspond to a meter
indication
of 0 db or a bit higher, but in reality is often as high as +5 db or more.
an
easy test of high to record is to record some clean, well-recorded music
starting at peak indications of -2 db, and increasing level in increments of
2db
or so every 30 seconds until recording level peaks are reaching =7 db. then
play
tape back, listening for the point at which tape becomes duller or
distortion
starts, then set levels 2-3 db below that point(more, if additional safety
margin is needed).
... also, keep in mind that premium type 2 tapes(xlii-s and tdk sa-x) can be
recorded at 2-3 db higher levels without saturating, and metal tapes can be
recorded anywhere from 5-8 db higher than standard type 2's. benefits from
recording at safely higher levels include increased signal-noise ratio (tape
hiss is relatively quieter, less audible), and increased tape longevity
before
the inevitable deterioration of magnetic media becomes significant (your
tunes
tapes and can be erased to varying degrees by any magnetic fields. proper
storage away from ANY possible magnetic fields is crucial to ensure tape
life.
an hour spent on the top of a boombox, a favorite temporary storage place
for
many, will cause noticeable, permanent dropouts. things to stay away from
include speakers, receivers, tv's, microwave ovens, virtually anything that
uses
electricity, and even the areas in walls where electrical wiring is hidden.
if
you want to be sure, pass a compass through storage locations under
consideration and check for any pointer deflection from true north---stay
away
from those. for the truly paranoid, magnetic shielding can be used to line
your
case; it's called mu-metal and can be had at elecronic supply houses.  

effort pays off both for years to come and every time you pop your favorite
tape
in ---happy listening.
Let the taping begin!!!!!!!!!!!

			

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Re: MINARETS digest 45

TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu Mon Feb 6 19:05:56 1995

Hello In Dave Land,
could you please Email me ASAP. Also, is it just me or could you
imagine seeing in a few months "DAVE MATTHEWS.....UNPLUGGED" on
fucking mtv???
			

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Re: Birthdays

nebulous@panix.com Mon Feb 6 19:09:21 1995

Does anybody happen to know any of the band members birthdays?
Just curious.
-Bruce
"And the calm away by the storm is chasen"
                               tthews

well, heh heh i think bagby's birthdya is 12/10 but they could've been
joking... those crazy kids...

(see? this one actually had dmb content... and i'm not a geek youknowwho,
i'm just misunderstood)


just another memo from the cellar,

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|  ben sterling...          new york, ny...                             |
|          ...friendly neighborhood psychopath...                       |
|                                         ...professional poseur...     |
|  ...five time mr. double dutch usa...                                 |
|                               ...orange tic tac connoisseur...        |
|                                                                       |
|  'curious things still do occur' ...bukowski.                         |
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


			

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sub minarets jeff killberg

kill6818@uwwvax.uww.edu Mon Feb 6 19:18:52 1995

hopefully this is the correct subscribe address.  our vax has been down since
december so i have missed A LOT of dave news.  if this is the incorrect
address please write me and direct me to the correct one.
			

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Opening Songs

bpharm!uvm.edu!Kelly.Hale@sadye.EMBA.UVM.EDU Mon Feb 6 19:24:37 1995

Ok-
drive from Burlington to Portsmouth then to Boston thru a major blizzard to
see DMB.  After 7 1/2 nail-biting hours in the car and not being able to see
5 ft in front of the car (now I know what "white-out" means) we made it safe
and sound to Boston.   Well, of course we were psyched for the show (and to
be alive), but we needed a few drinks before hand to calm our nerves and
numb the pain from our bleeding fingers, so we skipped Ugly Americans (not a
big sacrifice) and almost didn't make it for BHT.   But, we made it and
actually BHT played much better than they did in Burlington!!!  Or was it
just the atmosphere??  The Orpheum Theatre is much more appealing to the eye
and ear than Memorial Auditorium (aka gym).  Anyway, the point of this post
is to share my disappointment in the choice of opening songs (Seek Up). 
Don't get me wrong, Seek up is one of my all time favorites!!!  But
unfortunately, this was the third time in 4 months that I had the
opportunity to see DMB and guess what??  It was the third time they had
opened up with Seek up!!!  Bad Luck??  Has this happened to anyone else?  Am
I just an ungrateful, complaining, whining fan?  I mean, really.. it could
have been Satellite that I heard 3 times, but it was Seek up, a song that I
think really characterizes DMB and a song that I was so excited to hear the
first time they opened up with it!   Well, the point of this post was not to
over dramatize my road trip (although I must admit, I did) and not to bitch,
but to ask if anyone has had similar experiences??  And also to ask if
anyone knows the setlist for 4/?/94 @ Metronone in Burlington.  It was my
first show so I don't remember what they opened up with but I betcha it was
Seek Up!!!!
Later,
kelly

			

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Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings

matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU Mon Feb 6 19:24:58 1995


 now heres my question 
 whats the difference between harmonica and mouth harp?  i  mean i  think 
 i know  the technical differecne but in everyday use  .. would it be just 
 as normal to hear someone say "popper jams on the mouth harp"  as it 
 would be to say 
 "popper is a groovin harmonica player"  ??? huh huh 
 smiles 
 catherine

I'm pretty sure they're exactly the same. I believe mouth harp might
be a more British way of saying it, and harmonica may be more continental.
On early Beatles releases, John is always said to play the "mouth harp".
And I know he's playing a harmonica.

Rusted Root was awesome the last couple of days in Santa Cruz and San
Francisco. There's going to be a surprise show tonight (not a surprise
anymore) in San Jose at the Cactus Club. Pretty cool.

Later,

Matt
			

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every word is nonsense, but i understand...

CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu Mon Feb 6 19:25:37 1995

party of five?
no no...
let me just add a little
reminder to those females on our net.
we're talking babe-licious (i dont' remember who said that...)
i've got one word.

charlie.

boom. that's it. hottness incarnated. 
and yanno? toole is a pretty close real charlie.
toole? tooole?
toole even gives out lollipops.
that's BETTER than charlie.
one gold star on the fridge.

i walk on water every chance i get..
clare emily

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Re: every word is nonsense, no dmb

chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Mon Feb 6 19:57:41 1995

ahh clare .. i must definately agree .. but then we've talked about this 
who cares about the chics on party of 5 
but charlie man .. he gets my undivided attention for an hour every week
hottie hottie 
if only he  he were a real man  in my real life 
thank god everythign in life is a perception and i can create my own 
reality .. least for a lil while
ok .. nuff rambling
cat

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Re: Palace Theater 2/5/94

axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu Mon Feb 6 19:58:21 1995


 
 Satellite
 Tripping Billies
 One Sweet World
 Jimi Thing
 Rhyme & Reason
 Lover Lay Down
 Recently--

Dave played some little thingy in between here... Anyone know what it was?

New Haven seems to have gotten lucky the past two times... decent show, 
more variety than some of the other setlists I've seen (Lover, diff. 
opener, interesting segues- actually drawn out a bit.)



 No.36--
 Ants Marching
 Dancing Nancies
 
 
 The show smoked, especially from Lover Lay Down on.  The Dancing Nancies
 after the expected closer of Ants was a nice surprise, as was the Watchtower
 encore( they havnt played a lot of encores due to the double bill, have they)
 Any way Watchtower was hot, great show.
 
 Anyone tape it??, I have alot to trade
 
 Later-
 Beau
 
			

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Help for a new member

LarCZAK@aol.com Mon Feb 6 20:21:45 1995

I just joined Minarets two days ago.  I've seen DMB twice,  at the HORDE and
1/28 w BHTM in Lewiston ME.  But being from Maine I have little connections
to the outside world as far as shows, tapes, etc go.  Being a high school
student doesn't help the situation either.  Anyway, I was wondering if anyone
could do me a favor and let me know how the bootleg tapes situation runs.
personally or post if anyone wants to lend a hand.
Thanks from a new member,
Tom
			

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Hello.

jfrench@ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu Mon Feb 6 21:05:48 1995

Can I be put on the DMB mailing list.  Thanx.

			

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A little help . . .

McMoe@aol.com Mon Feb 6 21:57:13 1995


First of all, all law-enforcement officers and/or bouncers stop reading now. 

the next couple of months, though.  How strick is the security at the shows?
know what I mean?)

I really hate to crash Dave's shows when it is 18+, but when I am 17 and
deprived my God-given right of seeing a show, it frustrates me.  I have
practically every piece of DMB possible.  Gee, I guess I can listen to live
shows on my boots . . . but it isn't the same.

Sorry for all of you who are offended by my wanting to see the show.  DMB is
very popular at all around me.  I guess I should probably go see Green Day's
Dookie tour with everyone else my age, but I guess I need more.  Only one
other person who lives in my city, practically, likes DMB and we are trying
to get to the concert.

Just some thoughts
Lying in my grave!!!!
			

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Re: Opening Songs

jcrother Mon Feb 6 22:39:52 1995


 but to ask if anyone has had similar experiences??  And also to ask if
 anyone knows the setlist for 4/?/94 @ Metronone in Burlington.  It was my
 first show so I don't remember what they opened up with but I betcha it was
 Seek Up!!!!

Indeed, it was Seek Up.

The show was on 4.13.94

alex crothers
			

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NEW TO DIS

toddy@cyberspace.com Mon Feb 6 22:49:22 1995

I am new to the DMB trading seen but I have been a fan for a while. I am 
looking for LIVE DMB tapes. I have none totrade but I am willing to buy 
them or send you blanks    THANKS A LOT--toddy@cyberspace.com

			

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Re: every word is nonsense, but i understand...

jugular@rhf.bradley.edu Mon Feb 6 23:40:20 1995


 party of five?
 no no...
 let me just add a little
 reminder to those females on our net.
 we're talking babe-licious (i dont' remember who said that...)
 i've got one word.
 
 charlie.
 
 boom. that's it. hottness incarnated. 

yeah, and i've got one word for charlie...razor.
for God's sake, somebody give that boy a shave!  i mean, he's got five 
o'clock shadow from the moment he wakes up, until he finally wanders off 
into some girl's bed...
;)
			

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Heathcliff and Haiku Warriors

KARYME@aol.com Mon Feb 6 23:49:14 1995

Hey,  



I have heard this song before -  and i wasn't at,  nor do I have those shows
you mentioned.   It is on  another tape I have -  I am looking for it -  I
think I might have edited it off the cover - thinking it was bullshit -

I will keep my ears open!!!!   I think he has played it more than three
times!


Also,  

Anyone Know about "Down Where The Drunkards Row"   -  this is on a show of
mine -  i haven't listened to it in a while-  i am  ffwding right now-  

Anyone recognize it?  


_________________________________________________

LONG LIVE THE SONG :   "PEOPLE,PEOPLE"   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHANT FOR IT AT
YOUR NEXT DAVE
SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
_________________________________________________

Later,

T

			

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Dave Video Info

KARYME@aol.com Mon Feb 6 23:49:51 1995


I was listening to my new Boulder show of 11-17-94  and it has some great
chatter on it.  

He plays through his list and gets out for the encore-  he talks about MTV -
on MTV,  but then he says he is shooting video for it the next day in Boulder
-  and to come on out and party with them.  

So,  the live footage (at least some of it)  was shot not in good ole VA  but
in COLORADO -   he says though ,  this doesn't mean he has lost his "grass
roots"     -   lets hope not :-)   


11-19 are some of the best shows from '94 that i have heard -  lots of
chatter and excellent tunes!)   

******Any body know the song on 11-17 after  Christmas Song -  it is  a
familiar song but i have heard so much-  it could be something that i have
heard him experament with before.  (Set 2)  

It is labled "Talk To Me"  on the case -  but is that the name of the song?

Thanks,  
T 
			

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NEWBIE

BRS97@UNO.CC.GENESEO.EDU Tue Feb 7 00:11:43 1995

Being a newbie, i am also wondering how to get on the DMB mailing list, and
also how to begin obtaining boots of shows so that I may begin a collection,
and trade with others.  Any info or offers would be greatly appreciated.
-Bruce
"And the calm away by the storm is chasen"
			

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what would you say lyric..

jugular@rhf.bradley.edu Tue Feb 7 00:38:23 1995

hi all-
i've got a question, that i'd like some opinions on...for the line that's 
listed in both the liner notes and the lyrics file as " i don't 
understand at best, and cannot speak for all the rest..." i swear he 
says, "i don't understand that the best, cannot speak for all the 
rest..." anyone else have opinions?
now that i've typed this out, i realize how trivial it is, but it's been 
irking me for a while, and i think it's kind of a key line in the song...
-bill

---
words, words, words...    -dmb
jugular@rhf.bradley.edu


			

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Boston: (setlist) revalations and a grovel

Harry_Hood@fourd.com Tue Feb 7 00:39:59 1995

Holy Shit. Attended my first DMB show on Saturday. On Sunday I gave up on
Phish. I realize they don't even come close to comparing to DMB. It was
easily the best concert I have ever attended. It blew away Phish's NYE show.
I liked Dave alot before the show, but not nearly as much as Phish, however,
after that show my opinion has completely reversed. That was my first
revalation. My second revalation was that Stefan is a god. He is simply
incredible, and he's only what? 19? I went with very few expectations, but it
was amazing. This setlist is what I remember them playing now, a day after
the concert. I did not write it down during the show for lack of pen, so if
there were things left out, please don't flame me.
DMB 2/4/95 The Orpheum, Boston, Ma.
Seek Up
Dancing Nancies-
Warehouse
One Sweet World
Satellite
Typical Situation
Norwegian Wood? Can this be?-
Recently
Ants Marching

Seek Up was absolutely amazing, and that was what made me realize that Phish
is a joke compared to these guys. I think there might have been something
played after Recently or Ants that I'm forgetting. Anyway, it was an
incredible show, something that I would really like to get on tape...
*******Grovel Alert********
If you hate grovels, read no further, if you are a kind person who feels like
they want my love, then read on...

PLEASE! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!!! I NEED A COPY OF THIS SHOW! IT WAS MY
FIRST DAVE EXPERIENCE, AND I NEED TO RELIVE IT! PLEASE HELP ME!!! 
Unfortunately, I have little to offer except for one HQ DMB show and many
hours of boring old Phish (including the bum NYE show I recently attended,
2nd gen)
PLEASE, I can feel the love. Help out a newbie who will be reduced to tears
should he not receive a copy of this show. Help me.

Steve
Milk. Help Yourself
(I am not responsible for anything that may appear below this line...) 

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seeking ticket info

suzi@teleport.com Tue Feb 7 08:40:47 1995

Hi there. I have tried calling several places without any success.  Does 
anyone know when tickets for the chicago and St Paul shows go on sale? 
Would hate to miss this opportunity......thanks for your help.
Suzi

			

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A few misc. ramblings

pkkernan@netcom.com Tue Feb 7 08:41:24 1995


Hola,

Just a few inquiries today.... 

Is anyone heading to the show on March 1 at Michigan State University?  I 
also may have a few tickets availalbe for people interested .  They are 
sixth row , so just email me if you like....

I am glad to see that party of five is getting the praise it 
deserves...I thought it would be cancelled like all the other good shows 
end up/.

I also shudder to think about having DMB Unplugged.  After that we will 
see Dave on Sandblast as the new host....Stranger things have happened.  
:)  BTW I still have not caught a single DMB video on VH-1 or MTV.  I 
will have to keep trying though.  

Peace to all and have a good day........

pk -- 

_____________________________________________________________________________
Patrick K. Kernan        pkkernan@netcom.com
Everybody's happy Everybody's free
We'll keep the big door open Everyone'll come around
			

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Dave on VH-1

ewazorko@logsun01.med.osd.mil Tue Feb 7 08:44:07 1995


I realize that the WWYS video being on VH-1 is not really news to anyone readingthis.  But I found the DJ's comments last night after the video quite 


Hmmm, quite a comparison...  

See y'all at the 2/15 show in Richmond (or is it ya'll??).  Maybe I'll
revert to my Yankee roots and say just say 'you guys' from now on.  By the way,
any fellow Washingtonians can check out Everything at the Bayou on Thursday.

Eric

			

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Saint Valentine by the numbers

bmking@mail.wm.edu Tue Feb 7 08:45:05 1995

1 - Someone should post deerekshuns to 3rd street from 95 (295 too?), and to
the Carpenter Center as well.  I can get to Main and 18th, but somehow
showing up at the FZ would be like a bad twilight zone episode..

2 - Who's wearing what?  c'mon.. let's hear it..  the more elegant the
better.

3 - times.  5:30 @ 3rd?  8pm @ CC?

4 - did anyone eat eggplant today?

5 - I am so full of hope and expectation and dreams and hope and excitement
over this show, it's like a date with an old girlfriend who you haven't seen
in a long time but you know you get along so beautifully you can't wait to
see her again and when you get back together the feeling comes up through
your toes to your ankles to your head to your soul and you're blown away.

um, on a personal note, beth, in the name of our lord, dave, please find the
tickets.  and bring them, too.  that would be good. in fact, yeah..

6 - bring your tickets.

I surface but for a moment to breathe the air of dave, then submerge once
again to obscurity.

brett ..  no, wait, that's too confusing..  brett from w&m ..  nope, still
not good enough..  brett "insert your name for me here" kingswell from w&m.
that should do it.

take care all,
brett

--
you don't have to worry about me
i might have been born yesterday
but i stayed up all night
			

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can someone pay me to sit around and make bagbys..

cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Feb 7 09:00:05 1995


i always think im maxed out with bagbys and i find more new shit to 
listen to...anyway

version that started with carter hitting toms then stefan with the funky 
bass line, then dave hittin the lick (the one with the cool jam at the 
end) like on 3-6-93 to the current version (which i think i first heard 
maybe horse center in may?) im trying to date something....like put a 
date on a tape not date a person...its too late to be coherent...

oh yeah...those with to much time on their hands (a previous thread)
Useless WWW Pages  (yes thats the title)



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Re: Palace Theater 2/5/94

cfreeves@minerva.cis.yale.edu Tue Feb 7 09:32:39 1995

  Recently--
 
 Dave played some little thingy in between here... Anyone know what it was?
 
 New Haven seems to have gotten lucky the past two times... decent show, 
 more variety than some of the other setlists I've seen (Lover, diff. 
 opener, interesting segues- actually drawn out a bit.)
 				-Adam
 
  No.36--

the song between the two was norweigan wood
and i must agree that new haven has gotten lucky
it makes this va girl a little less homesick
another shameless grovel for anyone who taped the show
thanks again
cameron



			

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just saying hi

<@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:AHOLLAND.97@DIANA.HCHS.HUNTER.CUNY.EDU> Tue Feb 7 09:45:11 1995

I just wanted to write in and say how much I love this net.  i first 
heard DMB at a horde show this summer, and was completely floored.  I 
couldn't get over how good they were.  Anyway, this net is great, and 
is much better than others I have been on.  To show my appreciation 
right now, I have only 3 dmb tapes.  I will copy them for the first 5 
people to respond and who will send blanks/postage/sase.  I was just 
hoping some people out there will help me out, since I am basically a 
newbie myself.  Any thanks is appreciated...
--Adam
............Smoke my kind, make me feel better for a small time.....




















			

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Re: >Opening Songs

bpharm!uvm.edu!Kelly.Hale@sadye.EMBA.UVM.EDU Tue Feb 7 09:56:21 1995

AAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!  
I've only seen DMB 5 times and 4 of the shows they opened with Seek up!!!
What are the chances???? 
Do I have the shittest luck or what???!!!!!
kelly

 but to ask if anyone has had similar experiences??  And also to ask if
 anyone knows the setlist for 4/?/94 @ Metronone in Burlington.  It was my
 first show so I don't remember what they opened up with but I betcha it
was
 Seek Up!!!!

Indeed, it was Seek Up.

The show was on 4.13.94

alex crothers



			

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Re: A few misc. ramblings

cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Feb 7 10:00:17 1995


 I also shudder to think about having DMB Unplugged.  After that we will 

Well, technically it has happened, and it sounds quite good. I speak of 
the 9-6-93 ( i think this is the right date) show where carter hurt his 
hand and he and miguel played percussion. Of course Miguel is no longer 
with us to help on such and event, but the two tape show is incredible..


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re: just saying hi

HarrisJD96%CS25%USAFA@cadetmail2.usafa.af.mil Tue Feb 7 10:36:10 1995

Hey,
like one of those tapes.  My address is 

Thanks alot,

			

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Can you Tape Catfish Jenkins???

sctm@vt.edu Tue Feb 7 11:07:43 1995

Catfish Jenkins is coming to Tech this week and I was wondering if they 
allow taping.  I like their song on the Aware CD's,  and would love to tape 
this show,  any help appreciated!  Thanks and as always,  Groovy Beans!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"

			

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Re: Saint Valentine by the numbers

cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Feb 7 11:27:16 1995


 1 - Someone should post deerekshuns to 3rd street from 95 (295 too?), and to
 the Carpenter Center as well.  I can get to Main and 18th, but somehow
 showing up at the FZ would be like a bad twilight zone episode..

hmmmmm thats clares area, im  purely a 64 east/west kinda guy.....willing 
to pay the downtown expressway toll too much cuz 95 cunfuzes me...

 2 - Who's wearing what?  c'mon.. let's hear it..  the more elegant the
 better.

Tux with mickey mouse cumberbun/bowtie and combat boots
 
 3 - times.  5:30 @ 3rd?  8pm @ CC?
yep.....correctamundo as far as i know....Clare?
 
 4 - did anyone eat eggplant today?
yeah right!
 5 - I am so full of hope and expectation and dreams and hope and excitement
 over this show, it's like a date with an old girlfriend who you haven't seen
 in a long time but you know you get along so beautifully you can't wait to
 see her again and when you get back together the feeling comes up through
 your toes to your ankles to your head to your soul and you're blown away.
yep.....me too........
 um, on a personal note, beth, in the name of our lord, dave, please find the
 tickets.  and bring them, too.  that would be good. in fact, yeah..
Clare, i have yours
 6 - bring your tickets.
duh!

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AWARE toll free number

Matthew.S.Bruno@williams.edu Tue Feb 7 11:46:41 1995

included a toll free phone number where the disks of the bands could be 
bought.  In my haste, I erased the message and now have lost the phone 
number.  If you have the number or any other info on how to get a disk 
from Leftover Salmon, etc. please let me know.  Thanks ahead of time.
			

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2/4/95 Orpheum offer

khg@oitunix.oit.umass.edu Tue Feb 7 12:22:30 1995

O.K. folks - for those of you still reeling from the recent revocation
of soundboard access - here's the deal....

One fat crispy Aud master from Boston is waiting for you -

Please Trades only - 

I Plan on bundling this show with tonight's (2/7) Northampton and will 
use New Haven 2/5 as filler on both tapes  = 2 90MIN 

What can you do for me? I have a few specific wants but am open to any 
low-gen pre 94 cripys

11/17/92
11/09/93
01/26/95
So Please once again - TRADES ONLY -  XLII preferred
Since many of you are digestified or will be @ tonight's show  This offer 
will remain open until tomorrow afternoon.

Take these chances - Kevin
			

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changes in R&R

chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Feb 7 12:52:09 1995

im remembering rhyme and reason as a songthat jsut dave and boyd did.   
but its very likely i ccould jsut be making that up.  what i know for sure
is that i thought that whatever version I heard of R&R with the whole 
band at the horsecenter last spring was a treat.   actually i think 
wayland was standing right next to me during that song. Wayland .. do you 
have anything to say about how the spring horse center version was 
different?  
im curios .. but curiousity aing gona kill this Cat
catherine

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Re: Spinnin' Tapes

morgan_dailey@spacemail.jhuapl.edu Tue Feb 7 12:52:49 1995

Hey Kelly & others,
A well done little piece. Very informative and
helpful.  There are several items that I think
need clarification or whatever.  First, I should
begin by saying that what sounds good is very,
very subjective.  What sounds best to some people
will sound like garbage to others.  Fortunately,
the stuff that makes a good or bad copy is pretty
easy to finger.  (ie anyone can pick out a tape that
has too much hiss, a lot of high freq fallout, ect)



       When I recently bought 2 tape decks and started taking this whole
taping thing seriously, a friend of mine, whom I consider an expert

Just because someone has two decks doesn't mean they will
always make better tapes than someone with a dubbing deck.
Some of the high end dubbing decks have better specs than 
single well decks.

   tape heads also occasionally need to be demagnetized--every 
50 hr. or so, and always when beginning a taping session. again, 
there are commercially available demag. cassettes for this, and 
no more complicated than inserting cassette, pressing play, and 
removing after 5 seconds. 
On a another newsgroups I heard talk of how this is a farce.
Apparently, somone in the manufacturing industry came out
on rec.audio.high-end and admitted that the whole demagnatization
issue was a ploy.  Some company advertized a new permanently
demagnetized tape head.  To combat this advertizing ploy
several companies issued hand held demagnetizers and 
demagnetizing tapes.  The whole thing was a set up to get
people to buy things they didn't really need.

After all, why would tape heads become magnetized? Sure
the sound is recorded on magnetic media, but there is no 
way for the magnetization to "wear off" onto the tape heads.

and playback equalization requirements. many decks make this 
selection automatically by reading notches cut into top of 
cassette, but if your deck has switches on front labeled as 
above, they must be set to tape type being used

Type 1 tapes are more or less useless for tape traders (they were
made for recording speach).  Metaltapes do give a better frequency 
response and have a highersignal to noise ratio than type 2 tapes, 
but are also muchpricier.  General concessus has always leaned 
toward type2's.

good stuff about setting biases snipped


   dolby noise reduction operates by first boosting the recording level of
low-amplitude, high frequency information contained in music by approx. 10
db. during playback, low-volume high-freq. info is reduced in volume by the
same
amount, restoring natural frequency response to the music. tape hiss is
therefore reduced by 10 db upon playback(not being present in recorded
signal,it was never boosted). dolby B nr operates over a narrower range of
frequencies than does dolby C, and is much less finicky. without the
assistance 
of tone generators anf fine adjustments, i don't recommend using dolby C. 

Comercial dolby B operates in four frequency bands centered around 1000 Hz
(or is it 10000 HZ? --I can't remember)  One of the biggest problems
with Dolby B is that when DolbyLabs first introduced it, they were
very liberal in granting rights to manufacture decks with the Dolby B
feature and very loose in creating a standard that everyone had to follow.  
Many low end decks were made that didn't quite match the highest of
standards.  From what I understand dolby is being much tighter with
the licensing of Dolby S.  Where dolby B operates in 4 freq. bands, dolby
S operates in 8 or 12 or whatever (exact number escapes me now).  Then
signal to noise ratio is boosted by another 2 to 5 dB over dolby B.  Plus
tapes recorded in dolby S can played back using dolby B (not the case for
dolby C).

i can honestly say that i've never heard any dolby-relatedrecording level 
frequency response problems on aproperly operating deck closely matched 
to tape being used.

I'll second that.  Whenever I tape something for myself, I use dolby.

              a couple last thoughts -- recording level should be set as
high as possible without saturating the tape, which occurs when more
 energy is applied to the tape during recording than it is capable of
storing.

Saturating the tape is *bad*.  The recording will sound horrible (fuzzy and
muddied)

tapes and can be erased to varying degrees by any magnetic fields. proper
storage away from ANY possible magnetic fields is crucial to ensure tape
life. an hour spent on the top of a boombox, a favorite temporary storage
place
for many, will cause noticeable, permanent dropouts. things to stay away
from
include speakers, receivers, tv's, microwave ovens, virtually anything that
uses electricity, and even the areas in walls where electrical wiring is
hidden.
if you want to be sure, pass a compass through storage locations under
consideration and check for any pointer deflection from true north---stay
away from those. for the truly paranoid, magnetic shielding can be used to
line
your case; it's called mu-metal and can be had at elecronic supply houses.  

Ok, this is getting a little stupid hard.  First, there are no magnetic
fields
setup around microwaves. (Still keep those tapes out of the micro ;-)  There
are magnetic feilds in speakers (actually some are shielded esp. center
channel
speakers for home theatre setups) and TV's and some receivers.

Other electrical equipment should be fine.  Electrical wires have currents
going in oposite directions causing any magnetic field to cancel itself
out. So go ahead and leave your tapes on your power cords.  It's also 
AC current (if its from the wall), so that's another reason why there
is no significant mag. field.

   this may all seem like a big pain, but the relatively small investment in
effort pays off both for years to come and every time you pop your favorite
tape in ---happy listening.
Let the taping begin!!!!!!!!!!!


As they say, YMMV.
Most of what I added comes from my (not-so-good) recollection of
a Stereophile Magazine article from last Oct.  (I recommend this
magazine to any one into good sound equip. --much, much better than
Stereo Review).  Oh yeah, last March's Stereo Review had a nice piece
about how to make good quality tapes if you want further reading.
The upcoming March issue will contain information (specs and stuff)
about all available recording equipment and media.

Bye,
--Morgan



			

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clarify R&R

cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Feb 7 12:55:16 1995


to clarify what im askin here.....
i know for a fact...
3-6-93 R&R full band.....funky version im talking about
7-14 or 21-93 R&R solo-he did this alot this summer
spring horse center R&R as on UTTAD

im trying to see if a tape labled april 94 is correct cuz it has the 
version like on 3-6-93


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|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96  7 West Preston St.  Lexington Va. 24450	|
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Edwin Group

LAW0001@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU Tue Feb 7 13:19:15 1995


sonfije@seraph1.sewanee.edu and my mail came back.

Is this right or did I misspell something.  Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
			

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11/8/94

BOBBSTEPH@urvax.urich.edu Tue Feb 7 13:30:03 1995


in Washington, D.C.  If anyone has this please let me know as soon as possible.
I would really appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.

			

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mailing list

maynej@laird.ccds.cincinnati.oh.us Tue Feb 7 13:33:11 1995



			

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Re: A few misc. ramblings

cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Feb 7 13:35:27 1995

 No doubt you mean 9/6/92.
Thats what i meant...
92-93-94-95 there all beginning to blur...
 
 DMB unplugged is cool, but DMB Unplugged is not.

I agree, i didnt mean to say that DMB should hope for a slot, i just 
think the concept is still a good idea, especially since DMB is basically 
unpluggeed anyway....

Of course i would LOVE it to see Stefan on an upright!!
absolutely love it...
wow...

1 week till the symphony, which reminds me...

the syphony themselves are playing here on Feb 21....anyone think they 
might do a dave tune since they just did the shows and are a t a college 
or am i just thinkin too hard...?

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|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96  7 West Preston St.  Lexington Va. 24450	|
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Catfish Jenkins at Tech!!!

sctm@vt.edu Tue Feb 7 13:37:56 1995

To all those who responded,  Thank You!  Catfish is plyaing Thursday night,  
Feb. 9 here at Tech.  They are playing in a tiny little bar called Pedro's,  
which is actually kind of a cool place (good cheap buffalo wings!).  I'm 
planning on taping it and having a great time.  My Accounting midterm will 
be that night at 7:00pm,  I'll finish and head straight to Catfish!!!  What 
a plan,  couldn't turn out better.  See ya and,  oh yes,  Groovy Beans!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"

			

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digestify

JThomps34@aol.com Tue Feb 7 13:38:26 1995

Hello all,
but what is the method to change to digestified?  I just had to sign up again
and I forgot the proper method.  You can just email my personal account if it
is better that way.  

PS- anyone who is trading with me right now...my address has changed.  Please
send me a message letting me know what your address is again (i.e. Miah Van
Hecke)  I sent your tapes out, but haven't gotten mine yet.  

Jeff Thompson
jthomps34@aol.com
			

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i'm not losing my mind.....well, maybe not!

JPETERS@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Tue Feb 7 14:02:48 1995

with dmb in it!  i saw it once and then posted the news here and then every
other time i've seen that damn commercial there's been no dave!  there are two
commercials and this is wierd, but it's good because i was beginning to think
that i was hallucinating and had sounded a false alarm.  i feel better, but i'm
still not sure if alka-seltzer plus cold formula is a hallucinagenic......

			

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Dave, Edwin

JIMMYP123@aol.com Tue Feb 7 14:12:16 1995

Back to the cover thread. I was sitting around listening to dave the other
day, and this popped into my head-beatle's  Happiness is a warm gun. I don't
know why, I just thought it would be cool. I can definately hear Dave
growling in the Mother Superior part. Well, whatever
Anyway, can give me some info on Edwin McCain? I see posts about this guy
constantly, but I know nothing about him or his music. You may want to post
this on the net, I'm sure there are other who are wondering the same
thing.....thanks

+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+What
your SPIRIT is is what you are, what you breathe upon your fellows. Your
+internal and elemental volition.....
+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+Jim
Palma
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HOSS REVISITED

BRS97@UNO.CC.GENESEO.EDU Tue Feb 7 15:17:41 1995

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE BLANK MESSAGE PREVIOUSLY SENT.  PROBLEMS WITH OUR
COMPUTERS.  THIS IS JUST A GENERAL E-MAIL QUESTION.
I NOTICE THAT MANY OF YOU REFER TO OTHER MAIL PEOPLE WROTE IN A FORMAT LIKE
ON MAY 10 FRANK WROTE..... AND THAN THERE IS A DIRECT QUOTE.
HOW IS THIS DONE?  MANY THANKS. DMB ROCKS.
-BRUCE
"AND THE CALM AWAY BY THE STORM IS CHASEN"
			

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Dave

tracys@umich.edu Tue Feb 7 15:28:48 1995

Hey!
My brother forwarded your posting to me, and I'm interested in trading 
some DMB shows with you.  I only have about four, but one of them is this 
really cool acoustic set that Dave played for some public radio's 
fundraising effort.  It's just Dave and a guitar...he plays about five 
songs-- so it's short but sweet.  The other really good one I have is of 
his Ann Arbor show (10/29).  Maybe I'm partial to this one since I live 
in Ann Arbor but I still think it's an excellent show.

I'm going to see DMB on 3/3 in Detroit (they're OPENING for Big Head Todd 
which really sucks.  The tickets were $23.  I'm used to seeing DMB for $5 
at a local bar, and being 2 feet away from the band.  oh well)

Well, if you're interested...email me back.  I'm really interested in 
trading bootlegs/info/cool stories.

Tracy Sinclair
tracys@umich.edu


			

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about the technical taping mumbo jumbo....

STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Feb 7 15:51:14 1995

as far as taping goes, take a peak in the phish faq.  it gives a much
more detailed dissertation on decks and such than what i originally
included in the minarets.faq.  goes into things like azimuth, and
taking apart your deck for really stupid reasons.  go take
a peak.  it's at netspace, so you can get to it on www or ftp, or
gopher, i think.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
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Re: i'm not losing my mind.....well, maybe not!

matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU Tue Feb 7 16:14:53 1995


 	hah!  i'm sooooo glad that someone else saw the buzz clip commercial
 with dmb in it!  i saw it once and then posted the news here and then every
 other time i've seen that damn commercial there's been no dave!  there are two
 commercials and this is wierd, but it's good because i was beginning to think
 that i was hallucinating and had sounded a false alarm.  i feel better, but i'm
 still not sure if alka-seltzer plus cold formula is a hallucinagenic......
 	plop, plop, fizz, fizz....oh look, it's dave on tv! 8S

On the same vein, yesterday in the car I was listening to one of the better
formatted radio stations in the Bay Area. After one of the songs finished
they played a clip from one of Tom Petty's new songs, then said something

Then they played Cowboy Song by Sting and say


THEN, in the same breath, they play a clip from What Would You Say, and say


And I'm thinking, that's just about the wierdest thing I've heard ever. All 
three of them were mentioned in the same breath as equals and as a hook for 
the radio station.

I was very shocked. But nicely. Although I think Sting and Petty are
overplayed just about wherever you go nowadays, they are less pop-like than, 
say, Green Day or Nirvana Unplugged's "About a Girl (?)". 

So, someone out there thinks they're very marketable on the West Coast.
Marketable enough to rely on people recongnizing the name "Dave Matthews".
Trippy.

Bye bye for now,

Mattboy

I like listening to Rusted Root and Morphine today.

Matt Thompson
Ecosystem Ecologist
Carnegie Institution of Washington
Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
290 Panama St.
Stanford, CA  94305
			

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Strangefolk and Networking

<@uvmvm.uvm.edu:RGENAUER@maple.uvm.edu> Tue Feb 7 16:18:56 1995

This is it. Our generation, our lives, our futurs, and our music. I 
suggest we take the bull by the horns and make something for 
ourselves.

some of us are graduates of UVM.  So this discussion group is close 
to home for us.  We are trying to make things 
happen for ourselves and they are.  We have actually opened 
for The Dave Mathews Band and other national acts such as 
Accoustic Junction and The Band.  Currently we are touring all 
across the east coast playing our style of Accoustic rock. (see the 
end of this message for tour dates.
screaming guitar. Slowly but surely we are building a network of 
bars, schools, bands and fans.  
us.  If you are in a band, own or work in a club, work or attend a 
school, write for a newspaper, work at a radio station, record 
company or potato chip factory, touch base with us.  We are each 
others greatest resource.  You need not have a gig or a record deal 
to offer.  You must only have interest!!!!!  (slow and steady wins 
the race)
Please write to;
Strangefolk, 1402 Spear St. S. Burlington Vermont, 05403

or call
(802) 849-2691



Thurs.   2.       T-Birds Asbury Park, NJ
Fri.     3.       Nightingales, w/ 1st House, N.Y.C.
Sat.     4.       Valentines w/ Percy Hill, Albany, N.Y.
Thurs.   9.       Sunday River Brew Company, Sunday River, ME
Fri.     10.      Unity College, Unity ME
Sat      11.      Sun Mountain Cafe, N.Y.C.
Sun.     12.      McGoverns N.Y.C.
Wed.     15.      Club Metronome, Burlington, VT               
Thurs    16.      Diana's Oneonta, NY
Mon.     20.      Plantation Club, Worcester, MA, w/ Moca Java        
Thurs    23.      Causeway Club,  Boston, MA                   
Fri      24.      Club Three, Somerville, MA                   
Sat      25.      Milton Academy,  Milton, MA
26.      27.      28.


Please feel free to call each venue to confirm the gig!!!

T-Birds (908) 681-8900                                       
Club Metronome (802) 865-4563                                
Nightingales (212) 473-9398       
The Causeway Club (617) 232-1538
Valentines (518) 432-6572                                    
Club Three  (617)  479-7688
Sunday River Brew Company  (207) 824-4253                    
Diana's  (607) 432-0800
McGoverns (212)  627-5037                                    
The Plantation Club (508) 752-4666

Or call Strangefolk at (802) 849-2691


Take care
Sincerely,
Reid Genauer and Strangefolk

P.S. I know I am a awful speller, sorry!
			

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R&R, 11/8/94, watertight frog's asses

KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu Tue Feb 7 16:21:55 1995

I know this whole R&R thing was about Boofy trying to get a show dated, but I
have a li'l sumpthin' to throw out.  Every copy of R&R I have (pre-spring 94)
has different lyrics, infact the entire meaning of the song is changed.  I
don't mean a word or two different, I'm talkin' totally different lyrics.  So
the whole band playing isn't the only change.

Boofy, I have showwith a similar R&R, but for the lifwe of me I can't rermember
which show it is.  I want to say the Miguel Valdez Benefit, but I'm fairly
certain that that's not it.

revolving solo jam in the middle and just smile and remenise (-Bad, bad
spelling) :)

Mike I got my tape in the mail, great show, although I have to agree with
whoever said that they're better now without Col. Bruce.  They just have a
free-er, jazzier sound now.  But thanks, supergood show!!!!!

Lee I also got your tapes today, I'm listening to election night and loving
every minute of it!

Does anybody know if the second book in the Celestine prophecy series has been
released yet? It's called _The Tenth Prophecy_, I'm not going to let them leave
me hanging like that!

What's all this nonsense about a Dave & Tim cd being released?

Eric, it's y'all. 

Does anybody have a list of shows in New Orleans during the week of March
10-16?  I saw some posted on the horde net but I erased them forgetting that
I'll be there that week.

Any newbies going to the V-day gathering, you bring blanks, I'll bring a list.
'nuff said.

Personally i think Seek Up is one of the best openers.  But I can understand
your situation, I guess seeing it that many times can get frustrating.  The
absolute best opener has to be the 8/13/94 Two-Step, no contest.  Of course I
think that the best ever would be for DMB to open with Christmas
song-Warehouse, but I don't see that ever happening. Just the quiet-noise
change would blow me away.

Ok, I've now entered the land of the gigantic post!!!! Althought this isn't the
first time. :) Thanbks for reading this far, I love you all for doing so!!!!

"Ya' know, the police have been watching us alot lately"


Only those who finished my message can smoke in my message.
have a li'l sumpthin' to throw out.  Every copy of R&R I have (pre-UTTAD
r
			

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Feb 12th PSU show?

<@dungeon.Microserve.Net:Merta@Microserve.com> Tue Feb 7 16:47:23 1995

Hey everybody,

Im looking for some info on the DMB show at Penn State on the 12th.
Is this show with BHT or is it just Dave?
Also if it is just Dave will the patch be reinstated?
I sure hope so cause rec hall is a hard room to make an aud tape in.
Any info will be appreciated.
If any netters are going to be in town for this show they should definately
check out Grinch who will be playing the night b4 at the Cafe 210 in State
College.  There a Delaware based band that those some smoking originals plus
some phish and dead covers.

Ill be at both shows it should be easy to pick me out I have long hair a beard
and glasses  :)




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aware

cucr3@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Tue Feb 7 16:56:20 1995

As matt bruno posted, there was a toll free phone# floating around, that 
i also mistakenly erased.  i would appreciate if someone would be kind 
enough to repost this info.
Chris
			

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Re: Edwin Group

sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Tue Feb 7 16:56:46 1995

the list is on its way.  further instructions will come soon
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190

			

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Michael Penn

Tomczak@aol.com Tue Feb 7 17:02:24 1995

_I_remember Micheal Penn, I love Micheal Penn.  Anybody who likes good videos
should check out his for "It's a long way down (Look what the cat dragged
in)".

In response to the above comment I must say I am psyched to see other MP fans
exist.  I think he is an excellent songwriter/singer/composer.  His music has
a very textural quality to it.  He second, (possibly last ever :( ), album
"Freeforall" is amazing.  Long live Michael Penn!
			

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Re: help for a new member

Tomczak@aol.com Tue Feb 7 17:02:45 1995

Please disregard the message under the name LarCZAK (Message 23 digest 46),
if any of you read it.  By mistake I wrote the message using my dad's E-Mail
address and then when I went to send it later under mine it wasn't there
obviously so I rewrote the message and sent it under my name and called it
"Big Fat Question from a Newbie."  Sorry for posting similar message twice.
to  tomczak@aol.com and NOT larczak@aol.com    sorry for the inconvenience.
			

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Re: Spinnin' Tapes

chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Feb 7 17:06:50 1995

on the dolby subject
ill let you decide which dolby setting you like tto record in   if you 
decide you like dolby at all 
but  PLEAASSEE
note if the master  was recorded in dolby of if you have used dolby 
because
recording in dolby snipps off a section of the upper sound spectrum
playback in dolby expands the sound spectrum back to its original size
(ie : if youve recorded in dolby you would really want to know to play it 
back in the same dolby so that you dont have empty sound space  .. i cant 
describe this well ..sorry)
you need to note if dolby has been used because dual cassette dubing 
machines record EXACTLY what was on the master to the child tape no 
matter what you try to do to change the sound siggnals (attempts to boost 
singnals on a dual cassette (unless the industry has made changes in the 
past year and half)  doesnt work ...   this is one of the benefits of 
having to singal decks, you have a stronger ability to change the sound 
signals from the master to the reocording)
dubbed your tapes so that future listeners can play it back and get the 
strongest fullest possible sound

hmm maybe illl go play with my conga drum that the cat just knocked over
beat on drums
catherine 

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MINARETS digest 48

tomwa@jsbus.com Tue Feb 7 17:30:08 1995

I am a west coast guy who just found out that he will  be in NY around the time of the 
Roseland shows.

Does anyone have one  extra ticket for either night???  It would make my trip.

Thanks, Tom




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JSB Corporation                                   Scotts Valley, CA 95066
408-438-8300 ext 209; (in U.S. & Canada) 800-359-3408    FAX 408-438-8360
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edwin!

bricker@acme.highpoint.edu Tue Feb 7 17:58:38 1995

hi all
i know this is the dmb net, but if you don't like edwin mccain, please do
not read further, if so please read on




edwin is from south carolina, greenville to be exact and his music is
somewhat similar to dave's. he is very cool and the words he speaks in his
music are moving to say the least. everyone in his band is super nice and
so is he. i interviewed him last semester for my college radio station and
he totally hung out and partied(drinks). he rarely smokes marijuana and has
never taken acid. this he told me last week, but i had already knew. maybe
it's irrelevant but i don't care.
every once in a while he'll do some seal tunes or an occassional police
tune. he loves sting and has written a lot of new music and really changed
up his setlist since last i saw of him.

gotta go, i have class.
ps
tonight
the samples
ziggy's winston-salem, nc.

-bruce ricker
			

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Leaping People Symbols?

channel1!bryan.cook@coyote.channel1.com Tue Feb 7 18:04:25 1995


People tshirt mean?


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the rime and reesun of it all....

STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Feb 7 18:06:49 1995

to clarify what im askin here.....
i know for a fact...
3-6-93 R&R full band.....funky version im talking about
7-14 or 21-93 R&R solo-he did this alot this summer
spring horse center R&R as on UTTAD

im trying to see if a tape labled april 94 is correct cuz it has the 
version like on 3-6-93

i'm pretty sure that the modern version of the song made its debut
about a week before lexington.  in fact, i'd say that lexington is
the second time they played it the way they do now, but i can't
really remember.  i do know it was mentioned on the net at the
time.

the most recent version of the old version i have (painful clause) is
11-2-93, which, i might add, is the first time he ever played
say goodbye for the c-ville audience.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
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V-DAY TICKET AVAILABLE

fad4y@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Tue Feb 7 18:13:21 1995

Hey everyone
I was looking through the school paper here at UVa
and noticed in the classified ads
an add that read like this

SEE DAVE MATTHEWS! with the Richmond Symphony.
February 14 at 8 p.m.
One ticket

I Luckily have a ticket for the 15th
but i thought for sure that there would be someone
on this net who might be interested
(i don't know what gave me that idea)

anyway the nunber to call is (804)295-1373

good luck 
hope that one of you snag it

*************************************************************************** chip dorsch                                                            
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A few things to say

uu0924!icculus@uu10.psi.com Tue Feb 7 18:14:32 1995


Hello phellow Minaretters!  Im a newbie on the DMB.Net.  This is my
first post, and Ive been reading it for about 2 months.  I just went to
my first Dave show at the Orpheum 2/4/94.  All I can say is "WOW."  This
was by far the best non-Phish show Ive ever been to.  It actually even
compared to the Phish shows.  I was suprised to see a huge abundance of
14 or 15 year old girls.  They were all over the place.  My two friends
and I were in the first row balcony so we had a ton of room to groove.
I was suprised to see that it seemed like we were the only people
dancing for Ugly American and BHT.  The crowd loosened up about halfway
through dave.  If anybody had a HQ tape of this show, please email me.
I brought a hand help taper so i have a really poor tape of it, but i
missed ants and tripping billies.  Before I go just a few questions.
Did anyone else get asked by young girls if they had pot?  About 10 or
15 girls came up to us asking us in a high voice "Hi..do u have pot?"
They must have figured college-aged boys that are into the music..they
must have drugs.  Also, did anyone else see Messy Boy at the show.
There was the once kid that just ran all over the theatre tripping on
his face.  Well, this is my first post, and I hope you all like it.
Mike
			

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nothing exciting happened to me today....

STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Feb 7 18:26:15 1995

(just thought yall'd like to know...)

sometimes you have one of those days where you can't quite figure out
what's eating at your psyche.  and then, after molling over your manic
depressive state for a few hours, you finally start to come into focus
and you think you're ina  good mood, but only to fall down a flight of
stairs.

literally.

sunday night in an effort to finish up my laundry, i fell into my 
basement.  not something many people here can claim they've done,
i'm sure.  and you know what profound revelation i had as i sat there
bleeding to death all over my dave matthews shirt? 

"i need to get my clothes into the dryer."

i'm debating whether i should wash the shirt before wearing it to
the symphony show on tuesday.  what does y'all think?

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
__________________________________     \_________________________________
"that didn't hurt...that didn't   \             rick thompson
hurt...that didn't hurt........    \    stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
........................that hurt." \____________________________________
			

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Re: R&R, 11/8/94, watertight frog's asses

btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu Tue Feb 7 18:33:20 1995




 I know this whole R&R thing was about Boofy trying to get a show dated, but I
 have a li'l sumpthin' to throw out.  Every copy of R&R I have (pre-spring 94)
 has different lyrics, infact the entire meaning of the song is changed.  I
 don't mean a word or two different, I'm talkin' totally different lyrics.  So
 the whole band playing isn't the only change.

Incidentally, even DURING early april 94 Dave was playing w/ the R&R lyrics.

There's a great version with the character having a majorly mess-up
paranoid personality.  Interesting, and a nice break from all that 
'needle to the vain' shit he sings now.

Of course, in 93 before the song was brought back it had very different 
lyrics altogether-- "what you do on your time," etc.

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Looking to trade some Salmon

AMZENDEL@unca.edu Tue Feb 7 18:37:48 1995

I want your leftovers, if you have any to trade.  I have one set of a LoS show
in Chapel Hill this fall (sorry, don't have exact date on me) and lots of dave
to trade to anyone intersted.

Email me directly, for I no longer subsrcibe to minarets.

Alex
amzendel@unca.edu

			

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Setlist help, message to my newbies, ...

awp3@columbia.edu Tue Feb 7 18:58:51 1995



I don't think this got through yesterday, if it did I'm sorry.

i need the set list for the 2-5-94 DaMaBa show at the Georgia Theatre in 
Athens. Also if anyone know which songs were recorded during the 
Rudabegga (sp?) sessions can you please let me know. I think I might have 
it as filler and was wonderin if I had the whole thing or not...

Thanks to anyone that could help.

Anyone that is in on my newbie offer. I only got four packages of tapes 
so far and I got them out the same day they came. Also I fucked up one of 
the e-mail addresses in the list I sent you. I will contact you all later 
today or tomorrow as to the correction. In the mean time get those tapes 
in to me and I will get them back to you within a few days. Contact one 
another and start trading. I figured it out so all of you will get a 
different show of A- or better quality. I am not going to give any of you 
guys the 7-30-94 Browns Island show because I know many of you are on 
that tree.

Eric..I lied, never played soccer..give me a week, then I will be able to 
set you up with some c.bad artillery....hahaha..is the world ready for us?

marianne are you back yet?..
columbia netters lets get together..
columbia ben ..nice article in the spec..minarets mentioning..

i feel like eric posting personals to the net

what's up with the warehouse?

Tony






			

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BEN TANEN I LOST YOUR Address

bmcwilli@skidmore.EDU Tue Feb 7 19:02:30 1995

Hello ,
BEN TANEN, I think that hows youspell it. You were so nice to offer to
copy some tapes for me and I lost your address. Please send me the
information again and I'll get those tapes out right away,.
THANK YOU soooooo much.(this was the newbie offer made four or five
posts ago-I hope you get this)
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Feb 21st show

csantill@abacus.bates.edu Tue Feb 7 19:04:20 1995

I've heard that DMB is playing on Feb. 21st in Manchester, NH at NH College ... 
is anyone selling tickets or can anyone send me information on how to get them? 
I'd love to drive up from Mass. and chatch that show!  Thanks in advance

Chris
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Edwin McCain Net

bullard@coral.bucknell.edu Tue Feb 7 19:18:37 1995

It seems like whenever I send a message out to try to get the information 
about the Edwin McCain Net, I get a message saying user unknown from my 
server.  If someone could post the info to the net, or get ahold of me 
personally I would appreciate it very much.  Thanks a lot.

Waiting eagerly for Lafayette the 25th............

Andy Bullard
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Dave Tix on sale!!!

JThomps34@aol.com Tue Feb 7 19:22:13 1995

Hey All,
purchased a few tickets too many.  I am offering 3 tickets to the first
people who contact me.   The friend I am going with goes to Penn State, and
said that we can stay at his place Saturday and Sunday nights.  The tickets
cost $18 and will be sold for the same to you all!  
soon and we can set up the details.  
ride.   Oh, on the night before the show, Penn State is playing Michigan in
hoops and we can go to the game for practically nothing if my friend gets the
word soon enough.  







(814)862-2404 if you want to contact him directly to find out venue details,
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re:Dave Sightings

Chewie77@aol.com Tue Feb 7 19:43:11 1995

Some of these may be old, but I've been away awhile so here goes...

 Dave sighting number 1...  Over Christmas I was up in New York and I saw a
 commercial for the Wiz (a cross between Circuit City and Blockbuster
 Music).  They were advertising UTTAD and showing a clip of Tripping
 Billies.  They showed about 30 seconds of it.  I was nly able to here bits
 and pieces of the song because of the voice over plugging the album.  Has
 anybody seen the entire video?

There is a video to Tripping Billies too??? !!! ???

i believe this was probably just the promotional video that they did a
while back... tanen maybe knows more about this than i do... anyway,
whoever saw it... it was all live, right? then it was probably the promo.

hey shit i live in new york and i haven't seen that ad yet...

I don't live in NY either but I think I know what is being referred to.  When
the album first came out I went to a listening party hosted by the label (BMG
I think) and they showed a live video of tripping billies.  I should have
asked if I could keep it, since none of the bastards that  were there knew
nothing about DMB.  Well, anyway it was fantastic.


			

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deary me (video watch)

nebulous@panix.com Tue Feb 7 20:03:59 1995

oddly enough, i had just finished reading minarets when i turn mtv on, 8 pm
tuesday, and you know what was playing... not only scary, but sort of
sad... because i can see this becoming a bad bad bad bad thing... i don't
care what you call me, but actually seeing the video being played at night
on mtv is just shitty.

at least i don't think bill bellamy has said his name yet...

ben


p.s.... the next song was 'i'll make love to you'. boyz ii men in the houuuse...

ugh


just another memo from the cellar,

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|  ben sterling...          new york, ny...                             |
|          ...friendly neighborhood psychopath...                       |
|                                         ...professional poseur...     |
|  ...five time mr. double dutch usa...                                 |
|                               ...orange tic tac connoisseur...        |
|                                                                       |
| 'plagiarize the emotion cause it's easier than the real thing'        |
|                       ...shannon worrell.                             |
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


			

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The Video

ROOPC@tiger.hsc.edu Tue Feb 7 20:22:56 1995

OK I just saw the video at for the first time and I saw some pretty
interesting things.  First of all I thought it was pretty cool that they
showed so much of the crowd.   Did anyone that was at
that show see themselves in the video.  I thought I would ask and see.  Also
I haven't seen if anyone has made the comment about the weird doctors and
cops interviewing the dead person on the scene of the death.  Think about it
, It would make things a whole lot easier if they could just ask"What Would
You Say" about what happened to you.  Anyway, that is just my view of the
video.  I know that everyone else has been making comments about the video
so I just thought I would through my $.02 in.  There is no way to stop the
video from airing know so why not look at some of the cool things in it.
in Charllote, NC.  I have posted this before but I would really like this
show.  It was an all day show with Edwin, Hootie, And DMB.  I would really
like to get a Bagby of this show.  Could someone please help me.
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We get press

simon@acpub.duke.edu Tue Feb 7 20:43:01 1995

Hey my friends-
(the Dead zine) does a nice little writeup.  Nothing earthshattering.  In 
response to a question having something to do with the fame and fortune 
that goes along with debuting #34 (the rank, not the song, hmm kinduv 
ironic though...) on Billboard Dave replied (sumpin like) "I just bought 
this pair of pants and this shirt, Cool huh?"
Leftover Salmon gets a writeup too- actually its a good issue.


though. just sumpin like ... "DMB even has internet....."

woah. now that we're starting to get real popular and all maybe we should 
make a video for ourselves. maybe it'll become a buzz clip.  who would 
like to be in it. howbout everyone that unites for the 15th. lets make 
sure our popularity doesn't go to our heads.
people might call us sellouts...   
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Re: re:Dave Sightings

sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Tue Feb 7 20:46:55 1995

Some of these may be old, but I've been away awhile so here goes...

 Dave sighting number 1...  Over Christmas I was up in New York and I saw a
 commercial for the Wiz (a cross between Circuit City and Blockbuster
 Music).  They were advertising UTTAD and showing a clip of Tripping
 Billies.  They showed about 30 seconds of it.  I was nly able to here bits
 and pieces of the song because of the voice over plugging the album.  Has
 anybody seen the entire video?

There is a video to Tripping Billies too??? !!! ???

i believe this was probably just the promotional video that they did a
while back... tanen maybe knows more about this than i do... anyway,
whoever saw it... it was all live, right? then it was probably the promo.

When i was home over break, the small record store I had order R2T about a
year and a half ago said that they had received the video and asked if I
wanted it.  Now I have it.  It is tripping billies live with a little dave
talk in the beginning and a little watchtower.  
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190

			

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Re: deary me (video watch)

KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU Tue Feb 7 20:47:43 1995

sad... because i can see this becoming a bad bad bad bad thing... i don't
care what you call me, but actually seeing the video being played at night
on mtv is just shitty.

satellite  on an adult-contemporary
soft rock station commercial, in
birmingham......

b/w manilow and tears of a clown
while some women are talking in the
foreground about how rap and that
metal stuff are noise

all music all the time

keith
			

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penn's demise

cucr3@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Tue Feb 7 20:59:25 1995

For anyone who was wondering about the future of Michael Penn's recording 
career, I recently saw in Rolling Stone that he played an AIDS or 
somthing benefit, so I would have to assume that he has not called it 
quits yet.  It would be a shame, because I think he is one of the most 
talented singer/songwriters (except for Dave Matthews, had to make sure I 
got some DMB content in there somewhere).  Although Free For All was 
great, I think that March is a much better all around effort.  My .02 worth.
Chris
			

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how long has steffan really been playing bass?

sctm@vt.edu Tue Feb 7 21:18:10 1995

in all the interviews I've seen and heard,  Dave always says something like 
Steffan had only been playing bass for a year.  So the question is,  is the 
FAQ wrong?  is Dave wrong?  or are both right?  or did I read the FAQ wrong 
and make all this up?  I guess Dave could just mean that Steffan had only 
been playing electric bass?
in Charlottesville would march down to Coran Capshaw's little office deal 
and ask where we could get a copy of the Tripping Billies video,  being 
Dave's manager (maybe ex-manager,  I don't know?) he could probably point us 
in the right direction unless he's a jerk.  That would be cool.  Side note,  
is Bama Rags dave's own label?  Like he personally started it?  Is anyone 
else on it?
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
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eyriccc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Tue Feb 7 21:47:14 1995

I would greatly appreciate if someone could quickly type up the info. on
how to subscribe.  It is for a friend, one who won't flame.

Thanks,
Courtland

p.s. i changed my password so there won't be any more problems from my computer


			

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