sorry to post this to everyone, but i'm looking for chris vaught...if you're out there, how come i never got my tapes?!?!?!? i'm sure you're long gone with my tapes by now, but just in case you just forgot, drop me a line! bill ---- i will boast in my brokenness, i will revel in my defeat, i will let you kick my ass, if that's what you need from me jugular@rhf.bradley.eduTop Permalink
comes to DMB. So new, that I'm afraid I'm hhaving trouble figuring out WHY I like thhe band so much. Their music is so unique to me. I have yet to see or hear them live, which I guess leads me to this not so clever segue.... The 2/24 show at the Roseland ballroom is sold out. If anyone has extra tickets, could someone please contact me? My timing with VH-1 is pretty bad. All I seem to catch is either Tom Petty or REM. Can u say OVER-PLAYED? Well, that's all you'll get for now outta me, Pauly {pauly@li.net}Top Permalink
first i would like to apologize to all those who were offended in anyway by my chatisement of purple-haired asian folk...i really didn't mean anything harmful at all by it..i think if you just *knew* this moron you would understand why i don't hold him in high regard...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!...we have left the Year of the Dog and are in the Year of the Boar...lunar calendar are neat, huh...once again, sorry about that last post...i was wrong...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!...Top Permalink
I must break my silence. To the Deininger buffoon, ye know not of what ye speak, inbred buggerer of dead horses. The first concert I ever attended, bumbling oaf, was the Dave Matthew's Band in St. Louis, MO, a 6 hour trip from Lexington, KY, which is where I go to school. Here at Transylvania, I have learned grammar, which has obviously escaped your simian mind. Your brain is obviously composed of something other than functioning neurons. The diarrheal excrement of rabid turkeys, perhaps? But this is of no import; I digress. The fans present at said concert exhibited respectful behavior towards an excellent performer and perfor- mance. I could understand your criticism were it based on actual know- ledge of the DMB. However, listening to ABBA and masturbating while reading Swank magazine and swilling Beast does not make you an expert. You must also learn to see out of your anus, as this seems to be where your head spends most of its time, or so it would seem when one reads your "letters". As one of the assholes who disagrees with you, I would suggest cleaning the shit from your ears the next time you listen to or see the DMB. Yes, that's right. Remove your hand from your pants, your finger from your nose, and the diseased goat sperm from what you attempt to pass off as a brain. I must apologize for the ad hominem retorts and immature epithets, but, as they say, fight fire with fire, eh, little chum?Top Permalink
maybe it's just me, but i fail to see how this post is any better than the other...both are ignorant hateful attacks, and have no business being on the list, good grammar or not. -bill ---- i will boast in my brokenness, i will revel in my defeat, i will let you kick my ass, if that's what you need from me jugular@rhf.bradley.eduTop Permalink
I have two, is anyone interested in them? The show is Feb 4, next weekend. -- Chris Southern -- RIT Computer ScienceTop Permalink
Anybody else out there in Minarets-land notice that during "Hannah Jane" on House of Blues [Unfortunately sponsored by Pontiac] had a serious case of loose strings. During the middle, he turned around for about five seconds to tighten it. =20 I saw H&BF about 3 months ago when they were touring with BHT and in their ~ 1 hour set Hootie had a new guitar brought to him in the middle of about 5-6 different songs. I assumed this was because of broken or badly out of tune strings. I understand broken strings occur frequently, as the guitarist in my bad breaks strings all the time, but to this extreme in playing that was not too intense really had me wonderin'. Has anyone else noticed this. And then when BHT came on, Todd had the same thing during 4-5 songs, although he was playing much more intensely. Just wonderin' PhilTop Permalink
1. i know i am going to sound like a rookie,but can someone please tell me what the hell this newsgroup is all about,i would like some details on advantages , disadvantages Well, a newsgroup is a form of posting things than can be browsed through but not necisarrily subscribed to.... alas...as far as i know Prodigy, CopuServe and AOL do not offer newsgroup access yet...i know prodigy (i think) just released a WWW browser to its customers, openbing up th eworld of homepages and hypertext links....anyway....its kinda hard to explain... either. a good example is new years 94-95, the surfing began during jimi thing and dave was obviously before which was much worse.....i also didnt notice anybody surfing.... maybe i was really spaced.... oh yeah Universal REsource Locater=URL *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | "The future is no place to place your better days..." | | | |v3.1 |-) David Matthews | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
I heard that the Feb. 14 DMB concert with the Richmond Symphony is going to be made into a cd. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this rumor?Top Permalink
14 days left everyone. i can almost taste it. but just so everyone knows, dave matthews is not pioneering this contemporary-music-with-the-richmond-symphony type thing. last week some random, cheezy country band had their moment in the spotlight. the richmond times disgrace didn't have very kind words for it, either. i highly suspect that valentine's day will be..........well.................indescribable? BUT..... i'm a bit screwed. i can get to the show if i want, but i'd rather get to richmond a bit early so i can make it to this ever so publicized net gathering that's actually partially my own creation. sooooooooooooooo....... if anyone is going from harrisonburg or passing through harrisonburg on their way to the net gathering at 3rd st diner on february 14th, might you be so kind as to give me a ride? i can provide gas money, me out, please, then, help me out. i'm free at 3:00 on tuesday's, but if need be i can skip anthropology (though, honestly, that would be a bad thing, as i have to skip it the thursday following the show, so if you can leave h-burg at 3:00, that would be better...) i don't need a ride home. just a ride to the gathering. so send me a note if you can help me out......... ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
every three months or so someone asks if we should set up a newsgroup and every three months or so we shoot it down, and rightfully so. newsgroups are just an inherently bad idea, and are simply for people who have entirely too much time on their hands, which i for one, don't. newsgroups allow any person, even a person who has never heard of the dave matthews band, to come on and say things that are really annoying. basically, it's a first class way to _GUARANTEE_ that minarets.net becomes a very hateful, annoying, fire infested hell-hole. just my somewhat outspoken thoughts on the subject..... ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
Hey all, The order is more than likely pretty slopy. Started around 11:30 ended a little after one, hence no encore. Boyd really let loose on Tripping Billies and Say Goodbye had the sweetest flute solo before the first verse. High energy levels throughout the whole show. Some crowd surfing (too distracting). Near the end of the set the crowd started to thin out during the songs that weren't on albums and left more room to dance.Top Permalink
i have a bad habit of reading liner notes cover to cover, particularly acknowledgements and all the pointless stuff at the end. (if you ever get the chance, find a copy of fighting gravity's boy o boy o boy o boy o boy and read the cd itself. pretty funny stuff there....) anyway, when i tackled the liner notes of under the table and dreaming one night this weekend (yes, i have _no_ life), i discovered something mighty perplexing...... dave matthews plays vocals (of all things to play) and _left_ acoustic guitar. now, take my word, if you don't already know, dave matthews is _not_ left handed, nor does he play his guitar in any way shape or form that could be construed as left handed. in fact, aside from an overwhelming propensity to use his pinky in ways most rhythm guitarist can't imagine, he's pretty much just a rhythm guitarist. so, the next most logical thing to assume is that someone involved in the production of uttad is pretty goofy. the next most illogical thing to assume is that person is none other than steve lillywhite. i checked, and sure enough, the guitars coming from the left and right speakers are distinctly different. try playing with the balance during the wwys jam, just after all the yelling and pretentious blues traveler-ish yelling and carrying on, and you'll really see that it's two completely different guitar lines. i'd have to say i'm a bit surprised that it took anyone, including myself, this long to notice this, but i'd also have to say that it's a bit of creative genius on lillywhite's part. any thoughts on this subject? any thougts on any other subject? any thoughts...... ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
I heard that the Feb. 14 DMB concert with the Richmond Symphony is going to be made into a cd. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this rumor? to my knowledge, no one on this net can verify this, but to me it seems pretty logical. it would make for perfect timing for another cd from the band if they released it towards the end of the summer, perhaps mid september. i realize that is 7 months to commit the show to cd, but it's probably how long it will take to get the legal hassles of the symphony members contracts and all. BUT THIS IS HIGHLY SPECULATORY (sp?)!!!!!!!!!!! i'm am by no means any sort of a authority on this subject. but this is going to be one of the most highly prized shows of all dave matthews time and the symphony is strictly forbidding all taping, so they are the only ones who have the rights to it (and also are in line to make a pretty penny off of it, so let's hope the symphony sells out...:) ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
Hey everyone, I am begging for a ride to the Providence show tonight- is anyone in the Boston area going? Let me know if I can bum a ride. Boyd and Dave have mentioned wanting to get on the net and maybe write a which would undoubtedly be through someone else's account, WHO WOULD BELIEVE IT? I mean I'm going to see him on Saturday and I'm goona post a setlist of the show, and I could tell everyone that Dave stopped by to write to the net, and who would know ? Of course I would never do that, but ...how would we know? Sorry if I annoyed everyone...about that ride... have a good week and I'll post on Sat (and tonight if I go) JenTop Permalink
Howdy Howdy, "Life" section of USA Today (on Jan.17 I think) and right on the front page of the section there was an article on big spring tours. One of the sentences said something to the effect that "The Dave Matthews Band with Big Head Todd (erasing any doubts of who is headlining) is touring the east coast and that shows are selling out incredibly quickly." I think the order of the article was that it talked about Pearl Jam, Lollapalooza w/Neal Young, DMB, then everyone else.Top Permalink
i checked, and sure enough, the guitars coming from the left and right speakers are distinctly different. try playing with the balance during Well, i noticed this as soon as i got the cd, cu z im cool... no really. I did read that and figured dave was panned left most of the time. Its really obvious that there are two guitars in alot of stuff, especially the beginning of WWYS, at first i just though dave would do 2 tracks becaus esometime its the same riff. of stuff of the 2 studio tracks and some ven on the live tracks on R2T. There is guitar that pans from left to right in Seek Up, i noticed in one sweet that alot of ryhtm guitar was mainly right, every now and then adding the left to make it fuller. carter in pay for cuz all the drums are one channel, all the guitar the other.. positive (+) (usually red) wires from each channel and plug them into the same speaker.....it does neat stuff (especially to #34) latr.... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford '96 7 West Preston St. Lexington Va. 24450 | |v5.1 slimmed down .sig for Ben Sterling's convenience | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Last weekeend I was flipping through channels and heard a familiar name. Went back and guess who I saw on TV? None other than Va's very own Fighting Psychic Friends hotline? yeeeaaa...no. They were on that virtual conecopia of talent Star Search!!! Yes Ed McMahon and the boys were groovin' it down "All I needf is a holiday..." Actually as I'm posting this, I'm beginning to think that I already posted this news, well, it's the middle of the afternoon and "I don't care at all" --I'm going to see how many diff. bands I can quote in one post. Ok, i give up, I'm old, and the wolves are after me. Aoooooooohhhhh!!!! Emily, it was wonderful meeting you, sorry we didn't have more time to talk. I'm a much better conversationist before consuming mass quantities of beer. Boofy, I finally got into Boofyweb, cool pictures, one could spend days browsing the Murpleweb. For those of you who missed ARU this weekend, pppppphhhhtttttttt!!!!!!! It was a GREAT show and I, in all likelyhood, will be getting a copy. I think it will be sans TR3 though. I really have something important to say, I really do, but I just can't think of it, so I'll babble s'more. Dave, thanks for the shows, you don't know how long I've been after the Lake Matoaka and PBC shows. I'm wearing my Lake Matoaka Music fest. shirt right now!!!!!! And those of you who haven't read this far will never know!!! For the rest of you, it'll be our li'l secret. I'm almost to the 9th insight, I can SEE it y'all!!!!!!! "Could I have been mugged in Norfolk" "I have been mugged in Norfolk" As always, for your convenience, fire, tobacco (or all-natural product of your choice), burn, inhale, exhale. Repeat as necessary.Top Permalink
i sent the 07.30.94 tree structure to minarets and horde net last night.......and this morning, is was in my horde digest..... but it never appeared in my box, from minarets as things customarily do........... so if i have not unraveled the problem and gotten it to you by tonight then start emailing me..... oh....and will someone tell me where ashland is in relation to richmond....actually....ashland and chapel hill.... cause after ticketbastard screwed up and copied my address wrong, then sold out of tix (oooooo i was sooo pissed) for the show on the 15th........yea... someone gave me some the other day :)/./...so now i get to be up there both days................ that should do wonders for my grades.... thanks.... keithTop Permalink
In an article in the Richmond Times Dispatch, Dave said that on the UTTD album, Tim Reynolds plays the exact same thing Dave does on every single song, plus some fills. So basically Tim is overlayed onto every song. It sounds cool, gives it a full sound, or so I think? Scott Miller- Virginia Tech 529 Shanks Hall Blacksburg, VA 24060 sctm@vt.edu "Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"Top Permalink
I wanted some minaretters to have a stab at these. Peace - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hi there, I am currently holding TWO great (orchestra section) tickets to see DMB in Philly's Tower Theater for Feb. 10. I'm not sure quite yet if I want to go or not. But I'm leaning towards the not. If you are interested, contact me personally at yxb100@psu.edu. ASAP --YacTop Permalink
Rick mentioned that in the liner notes, dave is credited as the left acoustic guitar. now, i'm sitting in the library and don't have the cd in front of me to check but doesn't tim play guitar on most of the songs on UTTAD? I guess that would make him the "right" acoustic guitar, which would make sense considering that is where the rhythm guitar is usually coming from. kisses, daveTop Permalink
Anybody else out there in Minarets-land notice that during "Hannah Jane" on House of Blues [Unfortunately sponsored by Pontiac] had a serious case of loose strings. During the middle, he turned around for about five seconds to tighten it. =20 I saw H&BF about 3 months ago when they were touring with BHT and in their ~ 1 hour set Hootie had a new guitar brought to him in the middle of about 5-6 different songs. I assumed this was because of broken or badly out of tune strings. I understand broken strings occur frequently, as the guitarist in my bad breaks strings all the time, but to this extreme in playing that was not too intense really had me wonderin'. Has anyone else noticed this. And then when BHT came on, Todd had the same thing during 4-5 songs, although he was playing much more intensely. Just wonderin' Phil I also saw the House Of Blues show and I saw the loose string thing but I believe that it was just the camera effect. I've seen this before on other television broadcasted concerts, and I don't think that it's a coincidence that everybody has that problem. There is also no way that Hootie could have turned around in the middle of a song and tightened his strings, then continued to play the song in tune. Anyways, maybe I'm wrong, but who cares. GeebsTop Permalink
To all, I was just wondering if anyone had any Dave bootlegs with From Good Homes opening, or any bootlegs of them alone (willing to trade) . I saw them open for Dave in Boston at the Avalon show last fall and thought they were great. Caught them again, by themselves (& the Sparta H.S. choir) at their Christmas show in Morristown, NJ. I have their album, but at the Christmas show they sang many songs that I didn't know but the crowd seemed to. If anyone can help me out it would be greatly appreciated. Also, just wanted to say that not everyone at Boston College is like that clown who can't spell for shit. waiting for Dave Matthews on Saturday (but not BHT or Ugly fucking Americans), A. A. Shah shahan@cleo.bc.eduTop Permalink
I figured that since there was so much talk about forming a newsgroup, besides the fact that everyday people are asking to be sent some file, it would not be unwelcome if I posted how to access the ftp site. If you already know how to do so, just press D now, but if not, this hopefully will be a help. I only learned how to do this over Christmas, so I'm rather new at this and don't know all the shortcuts, but I have a good enough idea to write instructions... To access the DMB ftp (file transfer protocol) site you must be able to get connected to the remote site (a system other than your own). I know how to do this two ways. The first is using UNIX. UNIX is just a program that many computers operate on (that's the extent of my UNIX knowledge). Many times when you login, it tells you that you are using UNIX, or you have the option to choose to use UNIX. Anyway, you need to find the UNIX prompt, a dollar sign ( $ ). It may just be a dollar sign, or it may have your system's identification before it. If you find a dollar sign with the cursor next to it, you can be fairly sure that it is the UNIX prompt. Once you find the prompt, $, you type ftp netspace.org it will look $ ftp netspace.org You will then be told whether or not you've been connected. If you have, you will be asked for your name, at which time you type either 'ftp' or 'anonymous' - I think that both work. Next you will be asked for your password. You should use your own email address as a password (you could type anything, but it is common courtesy to type your own address so that the remote site can keep track of who is on their system). If all goes well there, another prompt should come up, it would look like this ftp at which time, you have choices. If you want to go through each directory and see what your options are, you can type cp pub The command 'cd' stands for 'change directory' and will take you to the ftp cd pub You will then be told if your command is successful. At any time, you can view what is in each directory by typing dir which, surprisingly enough, is short for directory. For new users, everytime you change directories it is probably a good idea to see what your options are in each directory, so after the cd pub command, type dir (ftp dir) and press enter. You will then see a list of bands, including Phish, God cd cdStreet Wine, Widespread, etc. (see for yourself). To get at the DMB site, type cd DMB at the ftp prompt. You can then find what is in that directory, for example, the text-files, which include the FAQ, chords file, etc. So at the ftp prompt, type ftp text-files You can see what is in that directory with dir From here, since, for example, chords.txt is not a directory, but a file, you need to download it to your local site (your computer). You do this by typing get filename and it will be downloaded. When you get ftp get chords.txt It will say that the command is succesful, and it took a certain amount of time - some larger files take more time, several minutes for some. I said that when you got the ftp prompt you have several options. Another is if you know you want the chords file, you could type at the prompt cd pub/DMB/text-files which would take you to the text files directory - you view this with the dir command, and you can type Once you have gotten the files you want, to get out you type bye at the ftp prompt, which will return you to the UNIX prompt. To see the files that you have downloaded, type ls (list) at the UNIX prompt. You should see the files that you have downloaded. $ ls To view a document, type more filename and use the spacebar and/or enter to make your way through the document. To leave type 'q' and you will be taken back to the UNIX prompt. A command to view a document would $ more chords.txt You must type everything as it appears, in lower case letters, etc. These files do take up space on your memory, so to remove a file, use the command rm filename and make sure it has been removed by listing the files in your directory. To get the graphics, which are incredible, the best way is through Mosaic. I don't think it is possible through UNIX (though it may be if you have the proper software). When you get into Mosaic, open the URL (I believe that clicking on the word 'file' in the upper left corner of your screen will give you this option). You will then be asked to give the address, and then you type for the graphics, though you can also access the other files this way. You then simply click on the graphics you want, and they should eventually come up on the screen (downloading such huge files as graphics takes time). Once you open the URL you can also access using http, but I don't know the differences, so I won't touch on that. I hope I have not forgotten anything, the best thing to do, of course, is talk to people "in the know" at your school or work, etc. If you are at a school ask someone from the computer science department, they will tell you all you need to know. I forgot to mention that it is also common courtesy to do all this ftp'ing at non-business hours. Downloading, etc. takes up space or something, but they recommend/ask that you don't do it. If you have any questions or if I forgot to explain something, don't hesitate to write me and I'll try to help you find what you want. Sorry to take up so much room... AndrewTop Permalink
newsgroups allow any person, even a person who has never heard of the dave matthews band, to come on and say things that are really annoying. basically, it's a first class way to _GUARANTEE_ that minarets.net becomes a very hateful, annoying, fire infested hell-hole. Hear Hear! I concur! If anybody doesn't believe the wisdom this man imparts via the internet, please take a few moments and check out rec.music.phish, rec.music.rem, or rec.music.gdead. Man, I adore all 3 of those groups and depend mightily upon those newsgroups for free advance info and trades/grovels, etc., but there are some real JERKS out there who have nothing better to do with themselves than screw around with them, and then silly flamewars erupt, and you have to find yourself thanking God daily that you have a newsreader with a KILL file or else you could never wade through some of the crap that gets posted there. I do NOT want this to happen to minarets. IF people want to find us and get on the bus, it's extremely easy to find, especially with WWW. Just say NO to a newsgroup. just my somewhat outspoken thoughts on the subject..... Just adding a couple more. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ to possess...plain common sense." \ dave matthews band --immanuel kant \ lyrics extraordinaire __________________________________ \_________________________________ \ rick thompson \ stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu \____________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And so, ever the iconoclasts, we're gonna stand up." --Bobby Weir, BCT, 9-24-94 Dominic J. DeVito, student, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Notre DameTop Permalink
OK. The first 8 nebies with NO DMB tapes to respond to me will get a different show or shows (depending on length of show; 2 tapes) for blanks and postage. Once I find out all the people involved I will send each of you (in the newbie offer) the names and e-mail addresses of each other. This way you can then trade between yourselves. The only thing I ask is that if you are interested in this offer you be willing to trade with the other people once you get you tapes from me and thus everyone ends up with 16 tapes each. Tony c.bad, now its public marianne, i did it....Top Permalink
Anybody else out there in Minarets-land notice that during "Hannah Jane" on House of Blues [Unfortunately sponsored by Pontiac] had a serious case of loose strings. During the middle, he turned around for about five seconds to tighten it. =20 I saw H&BF about 3 months ago when they were touring with BHT and in their ~ 1 hour set Hootie had a new guitar brought to him in the middle of about 5-6 different songs. I assumed this was because of broken or badly out of tune strings. I understand broken strings occur frequently, as the guitarist in my bad breaks strings all the time, but to this extreme in playing that was not too intense really had me wonderin'. Has anyone else noticed this. And then when BHT came on, Todd had the same thing during 4-5 songs, although he was playing much more intensely. Just wonderin' Phil I play a little geetahr, and from my experience, snapped strings are MORE likely to occur with extra light (small diameter) strings. Many musicians use them because they break through other instruments tonally, esp. with acoustic guitar. Unfortunately, what you makje up in sound is lost in durability and integrity. They're harder to keep in tune, and they brreak pretty easily... just a theory...clink,clink(my $0.02)Top Permalink
scott miller says... In an article in the Richmond Times Dispatch, Dave said that on the UTTD album, Tim Reynolds plays the exact same thing Dave does on every single song, plus some fills. So basically Tim is overlayed onto every song. It sounds cool, gives it a full sound, or so I think? it's a good idea, but it's sort of pointless... on one hand it's cool because dave put an old friend on the (_entire_) album, but it's also a waste of tim's considerable talent to play the same thing as dave. i'm sure tim could have done some fucked up shit without being too jazzy or overplaying... for instance, the beginning of warehouse, what i assume is tim (i haven't checked which speaker it comes out of) does that neat drone over the basic warehouse lick... stuff like that is cool, and makes buying a CD of a live band worth it. he also could have been spotlighted on #34 without hurting anything......oh that would have been diviiiiiine... spin the turnstyle and watch me go round... just another memo from the cellar, *************************************************************************Top Permalink
If anybody has a copy and wouldn't mind spinning a copy; that would be great. I have some nice shows that I could trade for. Thanks a lot! ChrisTop Permalink
bad and I will stay on despite some of your wishes. Skidmore for their spring weekend, I heard rumours but I do not know if they are true. I do not go there but I have friends that do. summer(94), I was at a couple of shows and they were hot,Top Permalink
If you don't go to the University of Richmond, go ahead and skip this message. If anybody knows if U of R has a home page, could they please send me the address. Thanks. Brian ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________Top Permalink
Howdy, newsgroup. I am sure anyone who is on Phish.net will attest to this. It seems that every 5th post on Phishnet is about DMB. I know that there are many phishheads that are pissed off about this. Just think, if there was a DMB SteveTop Permalink
which would undoubtedly be through someone else's account, WHO WOULD BELIEVE IT? I mean I'm going to see him on Saturday and I'm goona post a setlist of the show, and I could tell everyone that Dave stopped by to write to the net, and who would know ? Of course I would never do that, but ...how would we know? if it's boyd, we look for a cowboy hat and some dread's in the header. if it's dave, look for some random, senseless garble in the header like that'll clue us in.... ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
Hey kids, I may be shooting myself in the foot as far as chances for getting tix are concerned, but I just talked to TIcketbastard, and here's Show is on March 7, at 7:30 at the Embassy. Tix are $17.50 (ack! I paid $7 for DMB in Chicago just 3 months ago), and they go on sale THIS FRIDAY (yes, Feb. 3) at 10 am. I also talked to Michigan ticketbastard, and they have no info about the rumored March 8 show in Kalamazoo, but I will post if I hear anything. I am trying to get a contingent of Notre Dame students up for one or (hopefully) both of these shows, but since it is during Midterms, I may be the only one willing to just let my grades go to the dumpster (where they presently reside) and go anyways. If anyone else has any pertinent midwest show info, feel free to post or send private email. Peace, Dominator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And so, ever the iconoclasts, we're gonna stand up." --Bobby Weir, BCT, 9-24-94 Dominic J. DeVito, student, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Notre DameTop Permalink
Rick- Call me crazy, but isn't that Tim(i.e. the "right" guitar)? I know he plays on the entire album, but then you would know more than I...Peace - this is the first response to my realization that dave is playing through the left channel on under the table and dreaming, and i think this is what i was trying to say, though i do remember not mentioning tim's name. basically, i think it's dave placed through only the left channel, and then tim reynolds playing dave's material as dave wrote it through primarily the right channel, but not completely drowned out of the left channel. listening to it, the right hand channel is exactly as dave matthews has always played these songs, but i still think it is tim doing the playing, because that way dave and tim could play at the same time during recording and build from there. if i'm not mistaken, uttad was recorded "live" in studio, with overdubs later by boyd and leroi. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
Does anyone know how to get to the Carpenter Center for the Valentine's Day show from Williamsburg? Obviously you have to take 64-W (for those in the area of W & M) but after you hit Richmond I am clueless. Any help in finding my way would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. PaulTop Permalink
Hello everyone in minarets land, I'm just sitting here listening to my new 1st gen. copy of the NYE show and realized that you who don't have it deserve a copy. So here's my plan...the first 5 people to email me will get a copy for blanks and postage. I will pick one other person to receive a copy for free but you must mention the # of the Digest this appears in. Take Care Trey THOWL91834@aol.comTop Permalink
no one give rick a ride to valentine's day. that's an order. cause i'm gonna kidnap him. i am officially closing his request for a ride. (hee hee i'm allowed to do this.. i have the authority..) besides..i need my dosage of rick. i can never get enough.. hear this rick? you're road-trippin with me to the v-day show. got it? good. write it in lionel's new filofax and put it in your green purse. 'i am not overly concerned' (besides.. since it'll be about the first rip back to richmond i've made since fall semester w/out boofy.. i'll need company so i dont' start singing sesame street songs and hanging my head out of the window.. tongue slobbering..) 'every word is nonsense but i understand and oh lord, i'm not ready for this sort of thing...' yearning for a trip to peru to swim in the energy.. clare emily ******************************************************************************* behind the veil of 'sanity'. the purpose of life is to bring us closer to those secrets, and madness is the only means.' -k.gibran clare emily clifford molecular genetics dpt of biology virginia tech & state u *******************************************************************************Top Permalink
oh that immortal question.....well...heres moi.... OOOOHHHHHHH. my......infidelity....no its just variations...i'm not a good little boy any more...once i tasted of THE woman...."variety is the SPICE of life"....oh man it is....our souls live forever...therefore we love forever...we are love...anybody need some lovin'???....Top Permalink
Hello everyone, it's been a while since I last posted but I have some q's and c's. First off, im trying to take my friend to a surprise b-day concert at Trinity on Friday but have been given the run-around by every trinity organizer I have spoken to. I am a wesleyan student, part of Trinity's 3-college consortium where Trinity students are allowed at our every event, yet I can't go to the show there. I need a trinity student to purchase me a ticket in order to go. And then, each trinity student may purchase at maximum, 1 $10 ticket for his/herself and one $20!!! ticket for a guest. If the issue were space, and trinity wanted to guarantee that everyone from the school who wanted to go could, fine, but apparently the Fieldhouse is big enough to hold plenty more then the school so im a bit peeved. Does anyone have ideas about how to get tickets for the birthday boy and a bunch of his nontrinity friends? Secondly, I love DMB but..... Higher prices, shorter sets, repetitive lists, no patches, obnoxious crowds, shitty venues, campus shows closed to the public.. I mean, this band is getting harder and harder to follow and enjoy without getting constantly agitated and pissed off. I still love 'em, and will still go see them, but is anyone seeing my frustration?Top Permalink
hey, 1. BHT is scheduled to appear on the Conan O'Brian show on Friday the 24th of Feb. This is obviously when the tour goes through NYC. So keep your eyes peeled for Dave on Letterman either the 23rd or the 24th, as this would be their only chance in the near future to appear on the show, if at all. 2. Check out the new 'Relix' magazine. There is a full page article Salmon. Pretty basic stuff though. 3. To the guy wondering about the patch for DMB. They have one available now. It is a 3 inch circle patch of the 'Fire Dancer'. No words or anything, just a circle with the figure in the middle. Its $6.00. Also, with Fire Dancer Logo $60.00, 'Long John' material long-sleeved shirts with Fire Dancer Logo $30.00 & $32.00, 'New band T-shirt' (pictures of DMB with 'Dave Matthews Band' behind the pics. Pretty cool. I forget how much those are...$16.00 or something. And for the youngest of DMB fans, the 'Just For Kids' T-shirts. They have the 'New band T-shirt' and the 'Stick Figures' You can pick up a flyer describing all of the above at the show. I don't think they had any of that stuff with them though. Or call Bama Rags, and I'm sure that they would be happy to take your money. 5. Thats all for now. DaveTop Permalink
Good day all, 1) In the liner notes for uttad who is Anne (the women in memory of?): 2) Are DMB and BHT coming back to the midwest? Preferably Detroit? 3) I would like to get my hands on some DMB show tapes but alas I have none to trade. The only thing I can off is money....any takers? Thanks alot,, pk-- _______________________________________________________________________________ Patrick Kernan pkkernan@netcom.com NETCOM, the West Coast's Leading Internet Service Provider. (408) 554-8649Top Permalink
I heard that the Feb. 14 DMB concert with the Richmond Symphony is going to be made into a cd. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this rumor? to my knowledge, no one on this net can verify this, but to me it seems pretty logical. it would make for perfect timing for another cd from the band if they released it towards the end of the summer, perhaps mid september. i realize that is 7 months to commit the show to cd, but it's probably how long it will take to get the legal hassles of the symphony members contracts and all. I specifically asked Mr. M. about this before the Houston show in Dec. He said there were no firm plans - but that he was pretty sure they were going to be taping it with some ADATs. He also mumbled something about having Steve Lillywhite at the show to handle the recording, but that was more like a "Wouldn't it be cool if..." We talked for a little bit about the idea of trying to release live and studio albums concurrently - especially when it was an event like this where the live would be dramatically different from the studio versions of the songs. Here's hoping... take care, JasonTop Permalink
I mean, this band is getting harder and harder to follow and enjoy without getting constantly agitated and pissed off. I still love 'em, and will still go see them, but is anyone seeing my frustration? Yes. I have to agree. Especially since they're not coming out to the West coast any time soon. Hmph, MattTop Permalink
ok. everyone hang tight. i just saw the first inquiry to the net about how to get to the carpenter scenter for the valentine's day show.. dontcha wanna come to the net gathering before-hand?!?!@# ok. stay tuned everyone.. cause i'll soon be posting more info about the v-day netgathering at third street diner (with boofy's help) and i will be posting directions (highway-wise) how to get to richmond, to third street diner, to the carpenter center.. whatnot with rick and boofy's input..emily's too.. and that way we'll all know that we've all got you all going in the right directions to geth where your'e going.. ok. i love ya'll. stay tuned. film after my bioenergetics/cell physiology exam at 9am tomorrow.. cec ******************************************************************************* behind the veil of 'sanity'. the purpose of life is to bring us closer to those secrets, and madness is the only means.' -k.gibran clare emily clifford molecular genetics dpt of biology virginia tech & state u *******************************************************************************Top Permalink
it's in nelson county, about 20 minutes outside of c-ville grayTop Permalink
Yee haw! My DMB tix finally came -- Roseland, 2/23, me and nine of my friends -- yes, I actually got nine DMB tix in the mail. That was a thrill. Is anybody else going to be there Thurs? Also, how early should we be there to get good seats? General Admission, you know. WIth regard to the newsgroup -- I think a Web page is much better. Prodigy has a browser, CompuServe will have one RSN (Real Soon Now), and AOL will have theirs up in March. This way, we can avoid repetetive questions; maybe somebody could get links for RR and other tour dates that people request. If we need an FAQ chapter on how to access URL's, I'd be happy to write one= As a member of PhishNet, I think that "Minarets" as is remains far superior 1) We don't need to utilize kill files. How many Phish posts deal with which band member uses drugs, etc. Lest you think that Dave is impervious, we had somebody ranting about Dave having AIDS, and his sexuality. Obviously, reading thirty posts by cool people a day is better than scrolling through 200 posts, 40 of which are remotely interesting, and the other 160 grovels or dumb stuff. [not to be judgemental, of course :-)] 2) It's really easy to post to a newsgroup. This leads to people not thinking about what they post, and suddenly we have a switch from a bunch of remote friends chatting about DMB and life's mysteries to anybody's guess. 3) With the band's video, and exponentially increasing airplay, how long before we get people that really should read the FAQ asking the same questions over and over again. My two centimes -- go foreign currency! Also, flames, and responses really can be kept to e-mail. It seems to me just silly when somebody comes on to defend himself regarding a spelling mistake. IMHO, those that waste bandwidth rambling about what's "right" ;-) look just as silly as the person that made the typo in the first place. All the same, I'm gowing to chec this ovr for typos before _I_ send it. =93Can one be a saint without God? =97 that=92s the problem, in fact, the only problem I=92m up against today.=94 David Schoppik philos@ritz.mordor.comTop Permalink
I haven't heard any notice of this on either net (although I am only a week on minarets) but in last week's issue of Time Magazine there is a blurb about the Dave Matthews Band. It is in the issue about the Kobe earthquake (just a quick thank you to whoever posted the info about sending tents to the shelterless in Japan-my fraternity has raised over $200 in two days to purchase tents to send. Support humanitarian causes! Back to DMB) Anyways, for those of you who don't read (Time that is), I will post the entire thing (I'm procrastinating writting a paper). FAME, WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY EMBRACE YOU Combining plantive alterna-rock lyrics with a Graceland-period Paul Simon sound, Thr DAVE MATTHEWS BAND has become the rage of college radio. Under the Table and Dreaming, its major label debut, has also made the quintet an MTV favorite and poised its genteel hometown of Charlottesville, Virginia, to become the next Seattle. Lead singer-songwriter Dave Matthews, a hobby painter and self-proclaimed mamma's boy, harbors no Eddie Vedder-ish loathing of fame, though. "I'm grateful as hell. I wouldn't mind people knowing our songs in Tahiti," says Matthews, "or even in Outer Mongolia." Just thought that you all would like to read this. There is also a picture of the band . Its in Time Jan 30, 1995, page 91. enjoy ericTop Permalink
After a few posts about broken strings and such, I thought that I would share a story or two. First the Dave Matthews Band content and then a little tidbit for those of you who don't hate Big Head Todd & the Monsters. breaking their strings, it really picks up the show. This applies to other musicians as well. At the Vail show last November, when Boyd really got going, so did the fibers on his bow. It was really sweet to see him wiggling all over the stage with half the bow flying around. the side of my face if you have it on tape and have a real good, clear pause on your VCR). Anyway, about halfway through the filming, Dave really starts jamming and broke a string or two, which was cool considering that the song was being played off a tape and they were just playing to see their fingers move. ago, they were putting on one of the best shows that I have ever seen. Todd was switching guitars about twice a song because he was breaking so many strings and the best part was that I am sure that at two different points in the show I saw splintered drum sticks fly up from the back of the stage! I don't know how common this stuff is but it was a really intense show! -TYTop Permalink
Hello to all- May your feet guide you to a humble place where curious george and that small guy from WILLOW are play on banjos. Opps actually thats a nightmare. or is that oops. Listen guys Newsgroups suck. Secondly, what is up with all these angry people? This is a dave net. Specifically dave said during a recentshow (during Bluewater): Hey, Hey! Fellas, chill the fuck out. And to those of you who want to beat each other up, just get the fuck out. IN THINK THIS SHOULD APPLY TO OUR GROUP TOO! IF YOU WANT TO STOP RANDOM MESSAGES, STOP TRYING TO USE DEGREDIVE AND ELABORATE CUT DOWNS AND FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP POSTING THEM!!!!! WHAT WOULD DAVE SAY IF HE EVER DOES LOG ON, AND THE FIRST THING HE READS SAYS LIKE THE SHIT THATS BEEN ANGRILY POSTED THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. Thirdly, I don't think spelling should count on minarets,so don't worry about it. I love ya'll. Swag. Swag.Plus (thats 93 octane)Top Permalink
go through.......hopefully it wont post both structure posts for some stupid reason ......... ======================================== ======================================== as promised yesterday here, again, is the info and structure for the 07.30.94 dmb tree........ there are a few changes...... these came about primarily due to the addition of one entire analogue branch........ this is a combat boots tree, thus, to effeciently do so, we must distribute this show to everyone who wants one, in order to thwart any desires to actually purchace the cd boot...... which reminds me.....earlier today, malachi asked what he should do with phish cd boot he has........my answer.... send it to shelly culbertson.....or, go out on to the beach and play frisbee.........just kidding.... rick thompson had offered to assist anyone who sees a dmb bootcd and wants to get it off the market........ i dont know for sure, but i assume that offer still holds true for any dmb bootleg cd's you find..... additionally, i accepted many more people after the structure was posted, and simply added the changes to a new branch......... i did, however, make a few more changes in the interest of keeping people happy campers ANYBODY who has emailed me since the structure was posted first, benjamin sterling, marianne, ben gardner, john longmire morgan dailey, ryan prosser, brw, sean (fishfood), cliff@tamu and myself........... these people have either 1 different child, or a different parent...... in the event this causes any problem (which it may) just get in touch with me, and we'll work it out somehow......... again, the important stuff........ this fits comfortably on a 100 minute tape, but there are those who say it fits on a 90..... this is your choice.......as I am told 100 min. tapes are harder to work with during trades, but I, personally, never care about giving a 100 and getting a 90......that's just not enough of a difference to create a problem over....but that is up to you to hash out.......... again...................... i apoligise for those of you that wanted to be branches, and didn't get to be........as it turned out, i had abot 3 extra branches.......sooooo i made some people leaves next..........................if i fucked anything at all up, then contact me...........i will definately accomidate for any blatent screw ups....... in fact, if you are not on this tree, and want to be, then I hearby dub thee.....my child/leaf..... im not totally insane, i just dont want to have to re-post this structure again...... but this counts only for analogue and metal people... and, again, oh.....and OOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo yea yea yea.,.... thanks seed thanks seed thanks seed!!!!!!!! **************gray pollux*************** wooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooo seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (everyone hug the seed, gray) OH and one more thing................ like normal.......A means analogue (plain ole tape) and D means DAT.......... it means that person wants a metal tape......... NO HIGH SPEED DUBBING................. for those of you that dont understand this........ it severly deteriorates the quality of later generations, even if your dub sounds ok..... if you dont like this contact me.......................... _________________________________________________________________________ GRAYP@PINN.NET (gray) (DDAT to longmire...) GRAYP@PINN.NET (gray) (DMetal to koliver1 (me)...) if you have any questons, complaints, or KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU i am willing to continue my part to see that it does....... i guess we should contact our parents and/or children...... hehehe oops.....THEN...contact your leaves and branches////.... well, yanno what i mean.//... as soon as possible... and...next, i am going to attempt to tree the wait show and root nye show and rare dace (3 different trees) at the same time...... so, if you have any questions regarding this tree structure, make absolute sure i know which tree you are referring to...... that way, i wont get confused........ and give me a couple days or else i will have to send you all oone of those looong 'drinking' messages...... keithTop Permalink
If any one has a copy of the 12/30/94 show from D.C, can you get in touch with me....Id really appreciate it .Top Permalink
hey all if there is anyone out there that knows when dave is coming back to the southeast, especially tennessee or nearby, i would really like to know. also, if anyone has a tape of the 12/28/94 birmingham show and would be interested in a trade i have a few shows to trade. so if anyone knows about any shows in the southeast or wants to trade anything write me back.thanks. danielTop Permalink
Specifically dave said during a recentshow (during Bluewater): wanna clarify the date of this 'recent show' where they played blue water babboon farm? i'd definitely be much obliged... you might have lotsof us netters jumpin in our seats and swingin off vines for no reason at all... i just need a little clare clarification... IN THINK THIS SHOULD APPLY TO OUR GROUP TOO! IF YOU WANT TO STOP RANDOM MESSAGES, STOP TRYING TO USE DEGREDIVE AND ELABORATE CUT DOWNS AND FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP POSTING THEM!!!!! WHAT WOULD DAVE SAY IF HE EVER DOES LOG ON, AND THE FIRST THING HE READS SAYS LIKE THE SHIT THATS BEEN ANGRILY POSTED THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. Swag. much uncoolness with the caps. eeeek! don't make my hair stand on end.. it would look evil. for those of you who don't know.. typing in all caps is like SHOUTING!!! it is also much hurtful to the eyes.. and it's like fingernails on a chalkboard. to the recent minaretter who inquired about anne on UTTAD, anne was dave's sister who died last january (jan '94) back in south africa. her husband shot her, and then turned the gun on himself leaving both their two young children orphaned. dave is holding one of anne's children in his arms in the picture you mention. this is in the FAQ, right? nonbeliever in the shift key, clare emily ******************************************************************************* behind the veil of 'sanity'. the purpose of life is to bring us closer to those secrets, and madness is the only means.' -k.gibran clare emily clifford molecular genetics dpt of biology virginia tech & state u *******************************************************************************Top Permalink
I have heard that the tour is going to Kansas City. If this is tour, can anybody help me out with some info, such as the date, when tickets go on sale, and ticketmaster's phone number in k.c.? ThanksTop Permalink
1) In the liner notes for uttad who is Anne (the women in memory of?): ack, not to waste bandwith butt............... sincc obviously the little faq-y type of thing that gets sent to people who sign on isn't doing its job, why doesn't someone take on the responsibility of being the anne faq person... basically have a nice little simple to understand paragraph that this 'afp' as they shall be called will kindly send it out to the guy or gal with the question... seems simple enough.................... though maybe sort of pointless... :) also... obviously dave is a big beatles fan... well, maybe someone else has noticed that best of what's around is basically while my guitar gently weeps, in some parts almost chord-for-chord chorus of each... dave... A C#m F#m A/C# D A E (w/ G# leading back to A) beatles A C#m F#m C#m Bm D E (w/ F#, G#, and A leading back to A) you know... i could have that D chord wrong after the Bm... but anyway, it's just interesting... i'm too lazy to go through the verse, but you get the idea...just a random tidbit from the chords.guy..... you know, i'm not a bad haircutter... at least on myself..... just another memo from the cellar, *************************************************************************Top Permalink
i'm trying to tag (well, sort of) with three people at one time right now, two of whom are on this net and one of whom isn't (not that that is important right now), and so i feel like wasting time. so, it's stupid question time............. how do you all think steve got best of what's around to sound ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
I have been collecting tapes for some time now, and I have never understood the logic in adding fillers. I love to look at my collection, and see just what shows I have, not all the bits and pieces of shows next to other ones. Does anyoneotherthanme hate filler? Hundreds of hours of Dave................ TTop Permalink
Barenaked Ladies here at Colgate lst weekend and i liked them so much i bought the company! actually i just bought the cd, which is primo! the band itself is two acoustic guitarists who both sing (great harmonies!) and a percusionist who plays bongos, congas and a tambourine. they were fantastic! they put on a very high energy show and i haven't taken the disc out of my player in four days! tufts, so maybe they were students there. if anyone else out there is into these guys, get in touch with me and let me know more about them, please and thankyou. if anyone's interested, you can get discs and merchandise by group out! i honestly haven't been this excited about a new band since my friend lionel sent me warehouse, granny and i'll back you up on a mix tape two years ago! ps can someone let me know the date of "BIG LEAGUE CHEW" please? i'm confused ;)Top Permalink
Ponder, ponder ponder...I do believe that someone here 'bouts posted a li'l sumpthin' 'bout RCA or the Symphony recording the show. Not just this thread that's currently upon us, but a few weeks back. Sounded real detail like, too detailed if you ask me ;) I lost my lighter this weekend and now, strangely, I miss that invigorating burn as the flesh is removed from my leg (that's what we call an alusion folks) I ned, sorry that's NEED (Hens love roosters, geese love ganders, everyone else loves Ned Flanders!) a copy of the 4/94 show at Town point park in Norfolk, Va. I was settin gup a trade for this but lost the address, I think it was Kevin of KevTad fame. If so, please write me back! :) I have a very far fetched grovel, and I'll post it everyday until I find out if this show exists. 3/93-4/93? at Randolph-Macon Women's College, big fun show, free and very li'l crowd. This show has some very fond memories for me, so if you have it, know someone who has it, have seen someone who has it, heard of someone who has it puh-leez (please, please) send me SOME info!! Even if you don't have it, but know that it exists send me some info. I have some niceness to trade (and I think I can scrounge up a Bagby somewhere 'round here :) David Hirko...you're the next contestant on the Price is Right!!!! Well, no, but I just listened to the 12/30 show and super-duper quality!!! I only have a coupla first gens so this sound berry-berry nice. "Beisbol been berry-berry good to me" That berry-berry flavor in new berry-berry Kix, a berry-berry-berry-berry bunch. "Say can I have some of your purple berries?" "Yes I've been eating them for six or seven weeks now haven't got sick once." "Probably keep us both alive." Oh, I kinda go toff the point...sorry. "A friend of mine is here visiting from Africa. So we're gettin' all kinds o' fucked up" -Dave P.S.-The Muezzins are coming, oh yes... they are. And your life will never be the same. Until I reach the 9th insight, smoking will be allowed in my messages, but ONLY if you can bask in the energy.Top Permalink
hey all, concert...please email me if you are interested.. thanks alyssa alyssa.moskos@mail.trincoll.edu ****************************************************************************** I remember thinking Alyssa Moskos sometimes we walk Trinity college box 700852 sometimes we run away 300 Summit St. but i know Hartford, Ct no matter how fast we are running 06106-3100 some how we keep some how we keep up with each other ******************************************************************************Top Permalink
anyonetherthanme LIKES filler. you get ramDom stuff, sometimes dave sometimes other cool shit that someone else is really into and wants to spread around sometimes, it's like mixing shows... hitting two in one weekend or something... or think of it as the junk they play BEFORE the show. or not. -anyoneotherthanme ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ read. bike. read. listen to dave. read. eat? sleep. read. type. listen to dave. write. eat. sleep? play disc. read. bike. listen to dave. EAT! eat... eat. listen to dave. listen to dave. hear dave. repeat until your ears ring in {([ Stereo ])}... ================================================================ Dominic Sagolla '96 --Constantly Swarthmore College Craving Swarthmore, PA 19081 the Perfect dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Top Permalink
Hey everybody, pertain to DMB, skip this. Anyway, I have been listening to three bands from New Orleans that are awesome. The bands are Cowboy Mouth, Better Than Ezra, and Deadeye Dick. DED has a song in the new Jim Carrey movie, which is kinda cheezy, but are otherwise not bad. I was just wondering if anybody else had heard of these bands, because I was bored and couldn't think of anything more worthwhile to post. ChrisTop Permalink
Personally I love filler on my tapes. It gives me a glimpse into what the other person has in his/her collection, as long as it's labeled properly. I love to spend hours (even days) finding just the right filler for a show. I try to use rare or old stuff that most people don't have, this way a person doesn't have to trade for a show just to hear "one song", as many people here often ask ie "Does anyone have a show w/ Drive in, Drive out; Redemption song; Me & julio, etc." I try to put songs like this on shows as filler. I also tend to throw on my favorite versions of a song, a killer jam, or DMB members sitting in with other bands (RR, ARU, the Samples). Anything that's special or stands out. A while ago someone posted about getting a hold of a Lex. show that I had made for another person at that school, he said in his post that "what really makes this show is the filler". I personaly HATE dead space on a tape, especially when I have to jump out of bed and hit FF or RWD, and I have a lot of short, incomplete, yet good shows that work well as filler. So I just ***An important note to those of you just getting started in trading*** Always ask if the other person wants filler before you add it, and just to be sure, if no one asks YOU, then tell the person making the tape if you want it or not. It's not hard and it saves grief in the long run. "We'd play all fuckin' night if they'd let us" Now that I'm finally getting out of this damn lab, smoking is allowed in my messages.Top Permalink
aye aye .. read what boofy posted earlier about solutions ... put pertinent cut and dry stuff somewhere where anyone can access it ...like a newsgroup (ugh i mean anyone connected to the internet) hmmm the only problem would be that it would get corrupted with stupid stuff like "dmb can lick me ..my boyfriend ditched me after the show" hmmm... it's possible to create a moderated newsgroup, on which only certain people are (supposed to be) allowed to post messages.. However, I don't know how easy it would be to create a moderated group with the scrutiny most new groups get these days.. Anyway, if this were the case, someone could just post tour info once a week, faq once every couple, or something like that. This would only be good though if there are actually people out there in jimi-jimi land who subscribe to this list only for that info.. but that would be silly to do because it is very available on netspace.. and once you subscribe I think you're told that.. so anyway.. but on the record, I am 103% against a newsgroup. a bit more tame than phishnet, btnet has been linked to a newsgroup for some time.. another list I've been on for quite a while (it was created on my bday, actually.. woo woo), and it has changed dramatically.. once it was a few sicko bt fanatics like I used to be, now everyone has joined.. not a bad thing.. just a change.. anyway, being hooked to a newsgroup prompts a hell of a lot more posting from the existing readers, and not to mention subscribership (although technically uncountable) would rise geometrically.. as for non- topical messages to the net, well.. that happens everywhere.. but on a newsgroup-oriented list it would multiply tenfold.. all the lovely advertisements that people post to all 10,000 newsgroups, all the followups, all the anonymous posts ranting and raving, all the crap, basically, increases.. I think it would make davenet unreadable. for those who read phishnet, I either applaud or pity you. several hundred messages a day is not something which I would like to wade through. and, I think that's one thing that truly gives davenet something special, it's possible to receive the list undigestified and not be overwhelmed. personally, I've never digestified a thing, it's not my style, but if davenet were getting 200 messages a day, styles get cramped.. ramble ramble.. "but you hate people.." "but I love gatherings... isn't it ironic?" and, if I may be so bold, i'd like to point out that the list does have it's ups and downs.. to those responding to hateful messages with hateful messages, I implore you to listen to a guy who's been dead for 2000 years whether you happen to believe he was delusional or came from "oh, daddy-o"... "turn the other cheek" "this job would be great... if it wasn't for all the fucking customers.." -- you don't have to worry about me i might have been born yesterday but i stayed up all nightTop Permalink
I am offering sexual favors for anyone who can send me the chords file. I need it so bad please. Hot and Bothered, stenhot@alleg.edu StyxTop Permalink
I was told that sounboard patches are not available any more. Is this true? for taping Dave Matthews shows please let me know!! I'd really appreciate any info. Well, let me know. Later, newyshack@aol.comTop Permalink
won't you be glad, this has nothing to do with a newsgroup. *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | "The future is no place to place your better days..." | | | |v3.1 |-) David Matthews | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* I have a little quote program on my computer (kinda like fortune on unix systems) to give me some nice, insightful, thoughtful quotes each time I turn Seize the day; put no trust in the morrow! which was the full version of Carpe Diem, I gather.. anyway, immediately thought of cry freedom.. and lo and behold.. and, just to add my own Kant quote for the day... follow that it is understood. But observe that the fact of its being understood does necessitate its being in the understanding. For as what is conceived, is conceived by conception, and what is conceived by conception, as it is conceived, so is in conception; so what is understood, is understood by understanding, and what is understood by understanding, as it is understood, so is in the understanding. What can be more clear than this?" brett kiiiiingswell -- you don't have to worry about me i might have been born yesterday but i stayed up all nightTop Permalink
show.....any thing like this for the 15th show???? Directions to the carp center would also be appreciated! thanx danTop Permalink
never pay for bootlegs!!!!! it's all about sharin' in the groove Well, it's hard to share if you have nothing to trade. It's impossible to get a tape of a single show. By the time I see any "newbie" offers, the offers have already been closed. I've sent requests to be on 3 trees now, but I have yet to see my name on a tree. Everyone here says don't buy bootlegs, but I'm beginning to get frustrated beccause it seems impossible to get a single tape.Top Permalink
all that blank space at the end of all my little tapes..... it makes tham sad....... plus some of my favourite versions of blue water babboon farm are there, in those spaces keithTop Permalink
Hi, I found an old moldy sandwich that Dave Matthews salivated on. I ate it and it was really cool. Ummm, yah, has anyone found that ankle yet ? I'm still working on finding if the mole is really on it !!!! I heard that Boyd's baby tooth is somewhere in Kansas in a garbage dump. There is a big excursion that is heading out there to recover it. Anyne interested, get in touch with me. Anyway, off to listen to a new tape I got of Dave farting when he was eight. Take care and KEEP LIVIN!! -Brian Leiken the most avid Dave fan ever cool.....Top Permalink
I am offering sexual favors for anyone who can send me the chords file. I need it so bad please. Hot and Bothered, stenhot@alleg.edu Styx heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheh just another memo from the cellar, *************************************************************************Top Permalink
Ive got a problem, I want get my minerats mail into digest form, but my mail system here at AOL wont let me send something without a subject. And everytime I send a request I get back that the list proc doesnt reconize my comand , so what am I to Do? G0rd0@aol.comTop Permalink
never pay for bootlegs!!!!! it's all about sharin' in the groove Well, it's hard to share if you have nothing to trade. It's impossible to get a tape of a single show ----- nope nope nope...not impossible. i for one would be extremely willing to make you tapes of anything in my meagre collection if you just pop a nice padded mailer filled with blanks and the cost of return postage in the mail!! we all started as newbies sometime, and most everyone on this net is very very generous with their wealth and knowlege of dave....in fact, send a mail right now to Brett Kingswell at bmking@mail.wm.edu...he's one of my very best friends in the world, has an enormous collection of great dmb, and has taken to signing all of his posts with the amazing statement "I will tape my world for blanks and postage"....believe me, i have known him to send out boxes with as many as 30 tapes to newbies just like you and me!! i know it seems hard when you start with nothing, but it really isn't tough when you're in a friendly place like minarets...good luck! bethTop Permalink
ooopss...sorry brett, i didn't mean to send that last declaration of your god-like taping offer to everybody on the net....will you still take me to v-day if you get swamped with blanks and postage from across the country?? please....? b.Top Permalink
So see I gotthis tape here (floodzone 2.3.93) and Dave throws Wildthing in during warehouse i've heard him throw broadway and baby you can drive my car during Recentley. guys heard him throw in his songs? Swag.Top Permalink
wondering what those five symbols mean... could anyone help me out? that was going to possibly hook me up with tickets/some sort of entrance to the Boston DMB show this Saturday night, and if he is reading, please drop me a note to let me know what is going on... thanks, guys! ---Top Permalink
Anyone else out there in minaret-land going? Also, does anyone know of any info on the possible show in Columbus, OH? I believe that it is on March 9(?) but I have no idea where or when tickets go on sale. Any numbers I could call? Help meeeeeeeee...........Top Permalink
There are WAY TOO MANY patricks on minarets. Lets get a seperate net or something.Top Permalink
I'll try to catch as many topics in one message as I can. I don't know about the rest of you, but a really nice AUD recording is excellent and better than a soundboard IMHO. A soundboard often sounds like an album but an AUD recording can put you front and center at the concert. The problem is that few people can afford to spend thousands of dollars on mics. That's right, if you want a really nice AUD recording its gonna cost you a semester's tuition :-) Any decent analog deck onto metal tapes can make a great SBD recording (let alone a DAT), but few DMB can afford to spend the kind of money it takes to make equally excellent audience recordings. For that reason alone having the feed disapear will suck. To unacustomed ears AUD recordings will always suck, and SBDs are the best way to turn new people onto DMB (or any band for that matter). We will know when its time for the minarets.net to become a newsgroup. This place will be so full that all of us will want a usenet group. One of the really nice things about a mailing list like this one is that it is very personal. People will write stuff in an email message that they would hold back on if it was a posting to a more formal usenet group. A lot of the interaction would be lost. In fact there would be a lot fewer messages a day on a usenet group. On the other hand people bash usenet groups unjustly. Its inevitable that when you get a few thousand people in a room some people will be assholes, etc. It will also be plauged with a low signal to noise ratio with people dropping in all the time saying "I need some tapes, duuuude". However, this is the only way for some groups to function. There are many advantages bu also many drawbacks. As I mentioned before we will know (collectively) when and if it is time for this move to be taken. It takes a lot of work to get a usenet group, but I think the rec.music.artists.bruce-hornsby kind of led the way and we could get a usenet group if we wanted one. Witness the DMB postings on the phish and gdead boards. I love filler. I hate it when there is 10-15-20-30 min of blank space at the collection so you can hook up future trades with that person, 2) introduce them to something new (e.g., DMB to a deadhead), 3) a rare or excellent song that they might not otherwise come across, 4) to fill up space. I am sure there are more reasons but those came to my mind. I first heard the DMB when someone put it on as filler to a copy of the 10/27/91 Grateful Dead show. In fact he used 110 min tapes for both sets so that he could give me more filler. Every side had a little bit of DMB on it...and look...here I am today :-) The filler was an AUD recording too, heh. This happens to everyone once and a while, and it happend to me the other day. I was standing their in the living room listening to Dave sing "True Reflection," and I got it...when a song all of the sudden really hits home and affects you personally....that's the magic.....that is what we are all here for. Peace! Eric Doherty "edoherty@macalstr.edu" ********************************************************************** Eric Doherty "Wake up to find out / /( - - Macalester College that you are the eyes of the world" | - | 1600 Grand Ave. -Robert Hunter - - _)/ / St. Paul, MN 55105 (__ __) **********************************************************************Top Permalink
well, boys and girls, its been splendid, but this is my last post. Keep chattering!! Don't let anyone tell you what you can/can't post! Thats bullshit. This isn't their .net, its OUR net, so my brother, chill the fuck out. well, i'll see ya at the carpenter center on VDAY. Thanx for making it fun.Top Permalink
never pay for bootlegs!!!!! it's all about sharin' in the groove Well, it's hard to share if you have nothing to trade. It's impossible to get a tape of a single show. By the time I see any "newbie" offers, the offers have already been closed. I've sent requests to be on 3 trees now, but I have yet to see my name on a tree. Everyone here says don't buy bootlegs, but I'm beginning to get frustrated beccause it seems impossible to get a single tape. you dont see your name on the tree structure i posted earlier in the night, then i suggest you look a little harder at the 66th name on there and, second...if you didnt see your name the first few times, then why didnt you get down to the point where i say i am not going to refuse anyone a spot on the tree, they can all be my children....*everyone*...that includes you...(even though you are already on there) and third...i dont think your personal frustration is enough to warrant the illegality and distrust on your part of buying an unauthorised bootleg cd.....especially when we have authorised copies in front of us...... mail me 39 blanks...ill tape ya everything ive got..... keith oh..ps eric....watch carefully when i post the rare dave structure (which isnt even close to being done).... you are _already_ on there im looking at it now..... there... that's 2 of 3........next?Top Permalink
Sorry but as of 7:55 am on Wed the Newbie offer is closed. I had 18 people reply to my offer and will gladly let everyone of those people in. If you have contacted me I will get in touch with you later tonight, I have a long day of classes. Everyone is going to get different tapes and then I will let everyone in the offer know who each other is so you can work out some trades between yourselves. OK, Bye. Tony c.bad, ready to conquerTop Permalink
that you bring me lasagna at work.. I just wanted to say (say.. hah.. damn email.. can't say a damn thing.. can only type..) a couple things 'bout the tapes.. first, if anyone sends me anything, I promise to return them within a reasonable time period, hopefully as quickly as I can. I've run out of blanks in the past, which hinders trading, but people sending blanks should not have to wait.. making tapes is one of the easiest things in the world.. I've made people wait and I've been made to wait for several months before, and I know how frustrating it is.. hey, flood me. if acts of kindness breed acts of kindness, who am i to not do something so simple yet so profound.. if I may quote... ===================================== Hi x, Just wanted to let you know that your tapes went out either yesterday or today (I'm not sure if I mailed them in time yesterday) so they should be there soon. Let me know if there are any problems. I haven't had a good chance to listen to the tapes you sent but what I've heard sounds great. Thanks! ------------- lookie lookie lookie what i got in my emailbox tonight!!!! its the xx show hooray hooray hooray!!!!!!!! i'm dancin' around this office and the fuckin' tapes haven't even come yet!!!! perhaps tomorrow...... :) :) :) big grins and giggles ============================================================= the names have been changed to protect the innocent.. :) if hitting a couple buttons can make people joyous, i'm all for it. all i want is food and creative love.. (lasagna and snowballs?) ewww.. silent bob is da man. bbrreet kkiinnggsswweel -- you don't have to worry about me i might have been born yesterday but i stayed up all nightTop Permalink
I have been collecting tapes for some time now, and I have never understood the logic in adding fillers. Does anyoneotherthanme hate filler? really care what dave i'm hearing, i just love hearing dave. but a show is a show. basically, i like filler, but not if it interupts the flow of a good show, so i only include filler after the encore. even if my first set is only 60 minutes on a 90 minute tape, i won't put filler there. only after encores. yep, encores. and really, i think that's the best way. sittin' there groovin' to the best show you've ever seen (or perhaps more....it's sort of like an encore to the encore when you add it to the very end....but if you put it anywhere else..particularly between sets (even if the sets are on two different tapes) and _particularly_ between sides of a tape (such as interupting a set), it just doesn't work. that's my take... ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________ rocks are dumb. \ stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.eduTop Permalink
Wait, how is this different from half the posts allready made? if it's dave, look for some random, senseless garble in the header like "yeahahahhhhhhhahahhoy....ya b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bop!!!" that'll clue us in.... ;-) (we're a goofy bunch, is Dave our Guru in babble?) --Morgan Whoa-hah-hah-ha! colons : : : gives you twice as many dots for buck! :::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::....:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Top Permalink
Who replied to my message yesterday. I am happy to learn that there are some good people on the net who like to help and not flame. I really appreciate everyone who replied and give me information but I am still wondering if there will be any Midwest shows? Thanks again, Pk-- _______________________________________________________________________________ Patrick Kernan pkkernan@netcom.com NETCOM, the West Coast's Leading Internet Service Provider. (408) 554-8649Top Permalink
What's Around are Tim & Boyd as someone suggested. Tim really seems to like to use his volume pedal, regardless of whether he is playing electric or acoustic. He basically rolls the pedal of, plays little triadic chords, and rolls the volume back on again, producing kind of a singing tone. Boyd could obviously enhance this with the fiddle.Top Permalink
I talked to my friend, who I would like to keep nameless for right now, and the band would like to get copies of the two bootleg CD's. I have written about this before, and I think it seems ironic that they want them, but i have been asked if i can track them down. If anyone has any idea of where i can get these, please e-mail me. This is no joke, or ploy to buy them for myself, i already have the shows that they came from, but i guess they would like to see them. This is not too hard to ask- I know some of you know where it is possible to get them. Since you were not involved in manufacturing nor are you profiting from telling me, there will be no legal action. You have nothing to worry about. Thanks T Please respond by E-Mail!Top Permalink
I just saw leftover salmon here in the beauty of blacksburg, va. now I know what everyone was talking about a while back. they can definately get you dancing! everything is playing thursday and firday here!! groovy beans! Scott Miller- Virginia Tech 529 Shanks Hall Blacksburg, VA 24060 sctm@vt.edu "Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"Top Permalink
Just a little note... That show where Dave says, "Hey, my brothers, chill the fuck out.." was not, uh, exactly recent. It was Zollman's 1/31/93! The best show I've ever seen 'em play... He heh heh The funny thing is that the two guys were fighting over a girl. Hah- I thought that didn't happen any more. Wow, what a night that was (eh Boofy??) Later KatharineTop Permalink
Katherine fun as Dave shows are now -- nothing compares to Zollmans. MVJTop Permalink
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All quotes taken from Minarets #33 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |newsgroup. I am sure anyone who is on Phish.net will attest to this. It |seems that every 5th post on Phishnet is about DMB. I know that there are |many phishheads that are pissed off about this. Just think, if there was because I was one of those phish.net'ers that switched over to more of a DMB fan than a phan. Thankfully, I found Minarets, but there are people who don't know about minarets so r.m.p. is the closest-related place they can find to find the DMB info they want. shrug glad I found this place, and wouldn't want it to change into another r.m.p. :D ------------------------------ |organizer I have spoken to. I am a wesleyan student, part of Trinity's |consortium where Trinity students are allowed at our every event, yet I can't |go to the show there. I need a trinity student to purchase me a ticket in was closed to the general public. That really sucks, IMHO. |Secondly, I love DMB but..... Higher prices, shorter sets, repetitive lists, |no patches, obnoxious crowds, shitty venues, campus shows closed to the |public.. | .. |I mean, this band is getting harder and harder to follow and enjoy without |getting constantly agitated and pissed off. I still love 'em, and will still |go see them, but is anyone seeing my frustration? bad, isn't it? But hey, what can we do about? Roll with the punches, I guess. :( shrug ---Top Permalink
hello all you netters... did you know that netter is some guy who writes atlases...in med school pretty colorful guy cept he's dead now.... ok first off--gav the chord file is coming...i need my disk and i keep forgetting it...you'll find that he plays lots of bar chords which really vex my index finger (left) cause i haven't mastered that dextrous power chord yet....blah blah...hope those calluses havent interfered with other indoor sports my jamaican friend...whoooohahahah-- marianne...ahh we have lost marianne for a while...she (gulp) logged off...what did you do to her??? ah me oh my....her presence will be missed...her ascerbic wit....her caustic condemnations of me....hmmm. she shall return i am sure of it... now then...why can't my nyc drum fiend get on the net....jon...what is up...? whoever is in charge of this inadvertant...unsuspecting? mistake gaff...fiasco...get it right...we want jon...we want bitter... to brendan, lisa...mike? somepin' like that ...thanks for the strange support....when did i write that message? oh yes i like to stay up.... to all y'all virginia people...i wish i could slide down towards 3rd st diner for the valentine day extravaganza but rochester's cold numbing hands have a firm grasp on me....i would like to put faces to these personalities...or maybe i wouldn't wickiwahwickiwah.....hmmm. i like gatherings...watching people dynamicize...not a word..should be uppp i should try colons :::::::::: wow like a ray gun...blast em i like anonymous, amorphous....faceless clueless penniless conversations...it allows the imagination to usurp the other faculties and trip around wondrous places...phones are good for this too... yknow i know...what i wanted to say...i laughed when i saw neil d's (with his tail between his legs) stunning recalcitrant apology...man, neil, never back down...popularity is overrated...your idea was kinda warped but stick...to your capguns... those who ran to their dictionaries to look up recalcitrant are back now welcome back...:) oh who is the fool in med school anyway??? me? could i have been oh yeah, dave content...i have a question...where can you get cool flannel pants like he's got...? look so comfy and all if you've gotten this far...you are too bored with life...getaguitar..strumit. the ny clique is dead...the va hooligans won...they have voodoo.. im not your lap dog. or your pal god... pale god...doppleganger...rantings...ignore. peace on earth piece of pie peese pass the milk later...y'know i need a signature,, how do you do that shit? ericTop Permalink
sorry guys..i thought i had an extra but then my friend decided to reclaim it.. the deal is that trinity students were allowed to buy two tickets each..one at a student rate and the other for a guest rate of 20$..there were 700 guest tickets put aside but i believe that they will NOT be available at the door...your best bet is to find a Trinity Student who has only bought their student ticket and bribe him or her to get you a guest ticket! later on alyssa ****************************************************************************** I remember thinking Alyssa Moskos sometimes we walk Trinity college box 700852 sometimes we run away 300 Summit St. but i know Hartford, Ct no matter how fast we are running 06106-3100 some how we keep some how we keep up with each other ******************************************************************************Top Permalink
Dave also does "Yellow Submarine" during Pay For What You Get and "Louie, Louie" during Warehouse. "Too short for a quote" Embrace the new Muezzin culture that's spreading across America! Cuz this message is so short, two quick drags are allowed in this message.Top Permalink
my fortune cookie of late says don't criticize other people; instead, work on how you can improve yourself and this is from confuscious, mind you, but, see, i can't help it. last night i went to the providence show and ugly americans bit my butt and bht, who i do enjoy on cd, had no sparks and so i was bored but dmb, well, they were quite wonderful, better than others i've seen but this isn't the point. it's the crowd. it's the fucking surfers and beer spillers and people pushing and pushing and hurting people and yelling at people and floozy girls who get smashed at the front of the stage who've never even heard dave before and yet still had to be in front and that guy in the attempt to get in front of me) and the crowd was so frickin ornery and mean and jabbing and probing and pinching and all the while i'm just trying to enjoy myself but it's hard to because chickenman keeps hurting me and i wonder why are these people so inconsiderate? i think that the crowds at dmb shows have to be the most obnoxious and impolite people. now, of course, i too am in the crowd and maybe i was mean by nicely asking man with beer to not step on by back but really...has anyone else noticed this? why is it? this isn't the first time and people threw empty beer cups at dave and it hit him and caught him off guard for a second and he looked pissed but ah....i don't live in rhode island. that's all. just needed to vent. oh, and if y'all see a goofy diarama in the next video or cd cover, it's mine. tee hee. carly cjacobs@smith.smith.eduTop Permalink
Kim Buresh-- lost yer e-mail address, but rec'd the TRAX Election Night tape that ya sent me (from your newbie offer) and wanted to thank you again...! It sounds great. Ummmmmmm... to everybody else... sorry for posting this to the entire mailing list. Saw Rusted Root last night up in Scottsdale. Wow. They put on a great show.... this was their first time playing in Arizona. Hope they swing through here again. (specifically Tucson... sucks to have to drive up to Phoenix to see bands). Jambay tomorrow night! can't wait! --Don ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------| --Dream Theater, `Learning to Live'Top Permalink