I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands, and i just dont think dave is that good of a player. he plays in chords that i dont recognize, chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from. He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!! Whats the big deal with them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison. Well, can I interest you in an Otter Pop? :) hee hee -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
who *HATE* Dave. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |John Viega "Violence on television only affects | |rust@virginia.edu children whoose parents act like | |University of Virginia --David Byrne | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
What? A Flame? Otter Pops for everyone... Ahhh.... much better... :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
From all of the shows ive seen, there are no alt. tunings. His current set lists are all in standard tuning. There are songs like OSW, Satellite, ect, that contain flat chords, but that is just daves skill and inventiveness. Alternative tunings, with the exception of a drop D that i think would sound great on Seek Up ( try it, Steffan does ), are not needed with daves ability of chord formation. However, i noticed most of the songs in the R.R. sets ive seen have been in a different tuning. I think it is a D tuning. By the way, i know Courtland. he didn't write that post so lets drop it. Justin Sonfield S.P.O. 183 735 University Avenue Sewanee, Tn 37383-1000 (615)-598-2190Top Permalink
that? I'm sure that I'm one of 1000 people to respond to you! I'm glad you posted that.. DMB happens to be my favorite band but I'm curious how everyone else reacted on the net..Let me know.. Here's how I respond... his jams "standard" rhythm andTop Permalink
Sorry to take up space, but I could barely contain myself. Please do not come see Dave, and keep your comments off of here if they are going to be negative. "and I still don't care if you don't like it" "this is a very happy song, happy song, and I always do it following this other happy song"---listen to some boots, gain some insight into the man, the myth, the legend-make yourself feel better for a small whileTop Permalink
Minaret encore? I have soundboards of Boone and Wake Forest that I recorded and alot of other great stuff...Top Permalink
I have to say that I get really suspicious when I see hate mail like that come over the net. It's usually some dufus trying to get someone else in trouble, which seems to be the case in this instance..... Before we flame TOO hard, let us remember how incredably easy it is to forge e-mail... John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |John Viega "Violence on television only affects | |rust@virginia.edu children whoose parents act like | |University of Virginia --David Byrne | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
I got a personal message today noting than I hadn't posted in a while, so I figured what the hell. thing. Tell me how my little experiment comes out. 2. Newbies- a few ideas. to say they missed mine b/c they got the message late. shows, and ask tapers to dub show if you like it. Tapers- don't whine. The band is kind enough to allow taping, and it's your responsibility not to be possessive or exclusive with this "gift". Besides- it's a good way to meet friends and possible future trade partners. tape. Sorry. good way to make friends as well. Let those that have helped you in the past know when you get a great copy of a great show. They'll most likely want to trade. As a general rule, vague pleas for help starting a collection don't work. Sign up for a tree, get a copy of a recent show, search your school or group of friends for fellow fans, then set up some trades with what you have. I don't mean to sound like an "oldbie" or be the least bit deameaning. There are plenty of fans with more tapes than me, who have been listening to the band longer than I have. But I've had great success since I became an avid trader less than a year ago, so I figured I'd share some experiences.Top Permalink
A is for AMy who fell down the stairs B is for Basil assulted by bears C is for Clara who wasted away Dis for Desmond thrown out of a sleigh E is for Ernest who choked on a peach F is for Fanny sucked dry by a leech G is for George smothered under a rug H is for Hector done in by a thug I is for Ida who drowned in a lake J is for James who took lye by mistake K is for Kate who was struck with an axe L is for Leo who swallowed some tacks M is for Maude who was swept out to sea N is for Neville who died of ennui O is for Olive run through with an awl P is for Prue trampled flat in a brawl Q is for Quentin who sank in a mire R is for Rhoda consumed by a fire S is for Susan who perished of fits T is for Titus who blew into bits U is for Una who slipped down a drain V is for Victor squashed under a train W is for Winnie embedded in ice X is for Xerxes devoured by mice Y is for Yorrick who's head was knocked in Z is for Zillah who drank too much ginTop Permalink
Hey everyone- anyone could post the setlist. I am having trouble identifying one song. Thanks alot ======================================== +Matthew S Bruno + +S.U. Box 2120 + +Williams College + +Williamstown, Mass 01267 + ========================================Top Permalink
I am glad that all of you love Dave but so do i. However my roomate does not and wrote that nasty letter. I would appreciate it if you would quit writting about it. Ask the net master herself,Clare that is, i am a true Dave fan Courtland EyrickTop Permalink
i remeber asking about this a few months ago on the net cause someone was sayinghtat theband sounded off key to them all the time. i thoghtthat maybe it was just that the band was playing in unfamilar keys or tunings but, not being a guitar player i couldnt know for sure. BEN ohh nebious you convinced me that all was played in standard keys and such .. but now that tuningis up for debate ive gottne curious again ... what will it take to find out the answer? just a glimpse of genius from one of you guitar wizards out there? lemme me know .i want to be enlightened catherineTop Permalink
I am glad that all of you love Dave but so do I. However my roomate does not and wrote that nasty letter. I would appreciate it if you would quit writting about it. Ask the net master herself,Clare that is, i am a true Dave fan. I would like an apology from all of you that have cloged my computer with hate mail. I have read more than once on this net that everyones oppinion should be respected, so why don't you practice what you preach. Courtland EyrickTop Permalink
Minarets History Issue 2: the posts included below reveal how incredibly exciting it was for the Dave Matthews Band to come up to the New England area for the first time about one year ago. Aquarium Rescue Unit in a half-empty Paradise Rock Club and 11 months later they had sold out the much-larger Avalon. some posts from our first flame-war, but I've decided to delay that until next week. --Ben -------------------- a little brief report of what an incredible show it was last night (Thurs) at Pearl Street in Northhampton, MA!! ARU. I shouldn't even need to go on but I will :). Sweet World Trippin Billies Granny Help Myself Minarets Satelite Warehouse Lover Lay Down Ants Marching Recently (not many in DMB) but not on the part of the board (except in one case) but on the part of the tapers. There were about five analog tapers there and two digital (myself and someone else-was that you Eric?) Since I was tremendously underprepared I ended up going last in the line which means that my copy has a cut everytime an anolog parent had to flip :(, but oh well. The first minute on DMB got cut and the first minute of ARU got cut. Also, one the guys taping analog in front of me wasn't paying any attention to his deck so I ended up having to adjust his levels and mine.!!!! Annoying. Anyway, a killer show to say the least. the only technical problem on the boards fault (and it wasn't really the boards fault) was we lost ALL power. Vocals went out, our decks went out, the board went out. For about five-seven minutes we sat there waiting (just as we set up some mics it went back on). The instruments still had power and ARU just went into a jam (obviously w/out words. :)) until the power got back on. Still not sure what the problem was. and I won't for awhile 'cause I'm taking off for Boston in a sec. The tapes all are pretty piece-meal but maybe with some fancy fade in/outs I can make them a little more fluid. I'll do my best. a good chance to listen to it. Everyone at the show was staring at one on the posters (sterograms) they had on display. Jeff (soundman) was incredible nice as was ARU's soundman and both bands. Good atmosphere. from many crazy random touring crossings!) from minarets.net. IAnother bonus for me was I got to see a bunch of old buddies from my old highschool-Ashely, John, Eric Needham. alex Crothers -------------------- Daniel-GnomeBoy- Greenfling-Gold who arrived a few minutes later with some buddies that he drove up from Brown with. comes out at five after and says that the band (ARU) is sound-checking so we won't be let in just yet. Daniel and a friend of his decide to go exploring-- they go around back of the club and hear ARU running through Yield Not to Temptation; the door was open since some guy was delivering beer. They come back at around 7:30, we wait for another 10-15 minutes. there were only 10 people in ahead of us. talking to someone there. Boyd walks in, violin case in hand. I walk around the club a bit. I run into coming up to Boston. You know, I've seen in you in New York a couple of times but I figured now that I am in school up here I'd never see you guys. out. Charlottesville. He said you were doomed. [;-)just kidding netters!] planted myself between two of the monitors. Here's the __________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________| the audience-- they came to see ARU but WERE IMPRESSED with DMB!!! One Sweet World Tripping Billies Granny Help Myself Minarets ***With Carter and Apt.258 both playing drum set!!!! Dancing Nancies Lover Lay Down Ants Marching ***With Carter and Apt.258 both playing drum set!!!! Dave and company on a regular, in fact quite frequent, basis, PLEASE realize just how lucky you are. I know that on the net are mostly the real fans and not the drunken assholes who scream for Halloween and Warehouse every Tuesday night at Trax and piss the band off, but come on! I've got to go and personally thank the guy to come up here (maybe next time he'll get to do more than eight tunes) and some people down in Virginia give 'em a hard time in their own backyard! pretty good on first impression, but I'll give a full review in a while. (Leroi and Stefan rocked tonight, as usual, though.) information on John Alagia, the album's producer and one half of the duo Derryberry and Alagia (yes, Derryberry is thanked inside). I forgot to ask Dave about this tonight. -------------------- Okay. That's it for me! I'll let Daniel take over-- comments and include a bit about the ARU set (you'll see why). Daniel and a friend of his decide to go exploring-- they go around back of the club and hear ARU running through Yield Not to Temptation; the door was open since some guy was delivering beer. DMB's van behind the club. And i am *sorry* for them. They must be stuffed in there pretty tight. ARU's van is small, too. Anyway, after that I went back to the stage and planted myself between two [Ben inserted a nice graphic here... good job, Ben!] heard two live tapes. They were excellent. I am psyched that this band is obviously on the upswing. They have much creative universe ahead of them. Is there any need for me to say that Boyd is a diety? I've seen a lot of fiddlers (in the hills of Arkansas), and Boyd is magical in his ability to mesh that sound with DMB. Leroi is cool, but i think he was a little nervous when he jammed with ARU. it took him a few hesitant blows on his horn to get comfortably in the groove. Stefan was good. Just good. Quite good, but after seeing Oteil (ARU) it is hard to imagine they are playing the same instument. But that's typical; Stefan will continue to develop his own style, i'm sure. Carter is wonderful, and he worked especially well with Apt.Q258 of ARU. Their simul-timing on Ants Marching was a sight! And then there's Dave... i have this premonition that he grows on ya'. His guitar was not groove on them (vocals) too much YET, but i think it just takes getting used to so i'll know when he's really going off... he has a commanding stage presence that i like. and, he has written some hot tunes! of DMB guested on most of the tunes, so i will include the setlist with all the notes of who-guested-when. ARU are amazing at adapting to new sounds and new members, so the infusion of Carter, Boyd, and Leroi was perfect. ARU 11/12/93 at the Paradise in Boston, MA Jam# (# = w/out Col. Bruce) Pay Day Compared to What? Yeild Not to Temptation Spoonful Salty Dog Basically Frightened* (* = w/ Carter) Time is Free * -- Peace and Happiness*+ -- (+ = w/ Leroi) Tronderossa* Time Flack No Egos Underwater* Two Truckloads Cheese Frog repost. When Dave sang "what you see is huuuuuuman," it was one of the few lines i knew and understood, and i just felt a great MINERATSpower. Sooooo Enjoyable! i hung it in my dorm room, i wouldn't do any homework. Remember Two Things... 8-) to Rhode Island? What unbelievable luck for me! [just kidding] Well, maybe they will make it up this way again. The crowd seemed to be showing a ton of support. I wish they would've come out into the crowd to get a feel for how much we liked 'em. Good show, ol' chaps! and me and all our friends, such a happy human race!" love,daniel -------------------- WOW WOW WOW WOW Does that emphasize it enough; maybeone more WOW took care of Boston and I pretty much covered Northhampton I guess all that's left is the Trinity show. I apologize for I don't have the set list (I rarely write the set list down during the show-more fun just to listen to the music and worry about names later) I'll listen to the tapes tomorrow sometime and see how they sound and write down the setlist. was some Alumni Banquet in the room where they werer playing so they had to wait until that was over before setting up. A good energetic set followed and a large crowd was there. Trinity is only about 2000 people (I think) but there were at least 500 people at the show-for the beginning at least. I suppose this had something to do with the fact that you paid $10 and got all the free beer you wanted! And they must have rolled in 30 kegs berfore the show. That was gone by the middle of the second set. Needless to say, there were alot of drunk people there. There seems to be an attraction between Dave and drunk college kids. :) Beer was being thrown everywhere (including my deck) but even that didn't hinder the spirtualness of the show. The room was cool in the fact that there was no security and smoking was very easy. Dave took me on a couple of nice trips. During 'typical' Dave ended up controlling the whole crowd with an impressive version. Overall a very good show and a good turnout for there first time in New England. Hope they come back SOON. alex Crothers -------------------- at Trinity College in Hartford, CT. This is in response --I-- One Sweet World Trippin' Billies Granny Help Myself Minarets into Blue Water into !! Typical Situation Lover Lay Down True Reflections --Solo-- Just for Tonight --II-- Ants Marching Satellite -tape 1- What Would You Say? JimiThing into Seek Up !! -filler on 7/21/93 II Flood Zone- Alex and I both have really nice DATs of this performance. If you'd like a copy drop me a line. I'm pretty busy with work and taping but I can do one for a couple people. Preferably analog because my friend is busy doing some DAT trading right now Yes, the second set is short but the JimiThing Seek Up is a nice nug of a fill The band was by no means ending when the lights abruptly and irrevocably came on as Dave strummed the opening rhythm to Watchtower. First set highlights include the Blue Water Baboon Farm into Typical Situations. I told Dave after the show how appreciative I was for its return to its right and natural place behind Minarets. I really think that he Minarets jam naturally disintegrates into the beginning of Blue Water. I'd liked the addendum of Typical alot. I miss the intro into Ants in which the whole band jams around climbing and descending scales (check out 10/6/93 or 9/1/93 both at the Flood Zone). It's really funky and has a nice groove to it. Has anyone gotten one recently? Well, back to work. I hope the set list whets some appetites! deviations taken into custody by the authorities less informed than he..." ------------------------- Coming in Issue 3: Bye for now, Ben -------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
I won't bother reproducing his insightful comments. Here are my $.02 is what I read his post as) Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! and then flame me some more.!Top Permalink
Dave fan. I would like an apology from all of you that have cloged my computer with hate mail. I have read more than once on this net that everyones oppinion should be respected, so why don't you practice what you preach. Courtland Eyrick I, for one, agree with Courtland. Just because someone does not share the same tastes as you doesn't mean you have to criticize him to the point of making personal attacks. If you are secure in your admiration of the DMB's musical talent, then the opinions of others should not matter a bit. In other words, delete the offending letter and heal your "wounds" by listening to some of your favorite music.Top Permalink
The following is a little transcription to the riff the in the jam written at the horse Center that preceed Halloween at both the Horse Center and Wait Chapel E--------------------------------------------- a---------3--4--5-----------5--6--7----------- d-----3-----------------5--------------------- g--5-----------------7------------------------ b--------------------------------------------- e--------------------------------------------- Any BTW, leave the poor kid alone, it's not our fault his roomate got a hold of his account and posted a rude post in his name.....now he'll know to keep an extra eye on his account.... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford '96 | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | "You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?" | | "No..." | | "A Royale with Cheese...." | | | | Ezekiel 25:17 | | | |v4.0 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
it, or let me know personally. accepting blanks, postage, $, whatever, instead of a trade. i'm looking for early dmb or dave solo/acoustic. thanks a lot for your time, folks. daveTop Permalink
that dud from sewanee sure caught some hell from that little paragraph he wrote on the k-town show. i'm originally from knoxville and i had a shitload of friends see it and they said it was great, except for dave's vocal problem, but even that was hard to notice. so listen up sewanee boy, i would suggest being a little bit more careful in choosing your words to post on minarets. hattonTop Permalink
Last night I heard a bit of a review that is rather humorous. A college newspaper writer at Westchester University, reviewing UTTAD, compared Dave Matthews to "a sober Eddie Vedder". Hmmmm....Sober? Obviously he is getting at the incredible voice range both artists exhibit, or the "two singing voices effect" as my friend called it. But sober? What do you think? How funny would a DMB "Alive" be. Or a Pearl Jam "Jimi Thing"? Oh, the possibilities. But sober? Anyway, if anyone at Westchester has the article and their is more good humor, let me know. Later... GregTop Permalink
Here is the set list from Saturday night (11/13/93) at Trinity College in Hartford, CT. This is in response Alex and I both have really nice DATs of this performance. If you'd like a copy drop me a line. I'm pretty busy with work and taping but I can do one for a couple people. Preferably analog because my friend is busy doing some DAT trading right now Yes, the second Can I get an analogue of this? How many tapes? Thanks... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
It's a little weird looking back on it now, but my VERY first impression of Dave Matthews in describing his voice was "Well, somewhere inbetween Paul Simon and Eddie Vedder, sometimes sounding more like one than the other, with the ability to change moods at ANY time (Halloween!)" What do you think? I hate to say "Dave is Paul," or "Dave is Eddie,", because now Dave is Dave, there is no need for me to match him to anyone else, but in describing the sound to someone new one must draw comparisons. It's kinda like describing the music "type" that encompases DMB, Phish, GSW, Rusted Root, WSP, BT, Jambay, etc. I'm not "grouping" them together and saying they are all alike, they have very different sounds between them, but in describing them to new people (I live in Minnesota, it's a common occurance!) it's almost impossible to give them a label. While I'm thinking, does anyone have a really good suggestion? One that they use? I know the possibilities are endless, but I think it would be a fun thread. Just a note, when I bought my copy of Rusted Root's "When I Woke" there primal, body-moving music" or someting involving those three words. I laughed. I then looked for the "Primal" section in between "Pop" and "Rap". ;) Peace, love, and unstructured playtime. (I'm done with finals now!!!) Last night I heard a bit of a review that is rather humorous. A college newspaper writer at Westchester University, reviewing UTTAD, compared Dave Matthews to "a sober Eddie Vedder". Hmmmm....Sober? Obviously he is getting at the incredible voice range both artists exhibit, or the "two singing voices effect" as my friend called it. But sober? What do you think? How funny would a DMB "Alive" be. Or a Pearl Jam "Jimi Thing"? A joint "Daughter/Granny" medley w/alternating parts? Oh, the possibilities. But sober? Anyway, if anyone at Westchester has the article and their is more good humor, let me know. Later... GregTop Permalink
Are you some kinda idiot or something. Great opinion, where the fuck is sewanee? Hey if you don't like them, then get of the net. This is not really the place to criticise h im. Why would you even get on this in the first place, let alone venture an opinion like that? I hope that you like all the mail that you will receive on this one. To everyone else on the net, sorry, I just felt the need to say something before everyone else does. One last thing to Courtland, if you don't like the DMB then, it's easy, don't listen to them. See ya. I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands, and i just dont think dave is that good of a player. he plays in chords that i dont recognize, chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from. He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!! Whats the big deal with them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison. Sorry you all had to scroll down for this but it needs to be said. It is called freedom of speach, look into it. Where can any of you begin to smoke someone else for his opinion (and yes, I am smoking those who tried to smoke him). He has the right to say this regardless of whether or not any of us agree and also to be on the NET is he so chooses, regardless of whether or not he is a Dave fan. Everyone is entitled to their own 2 cents, and this is just mine. I think that Dave's being sick must have had a negative affect, but he can say that if he wants. Boyd is awesome, but does he ever jump around stage and keep the eyes pleased. He does go sick, but usually stays in the same spot stage left. You listen for the sound cause that is what is most important... Stefan is the same way. On UTTAD's Warehouse, Stefan does some of the coolest bass I have ever heard. IT just grooves. Once again, however, he does not exactly jump around stage and keep the audience enthralled. Then again, is that really necessary??? Isn't a concert a place where you are supposed to listen to music. One of the best concerts I ever saw was Clapton, and he does not move more than 5 steps around the stage at any point in the show. After all, the music of any group is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART of any show, be it the DMB, The Rolling Stones, Pearl Jam, or ayone else out there... Thanks. Paul Chandler (PS the only comments I didn't agree with of Courtland's were the sexuality and drugs. as someone else put it, what do they have to do with the music he plays???)Top Permalink
Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I tried to send this privately but it got returned, so if your first name isn't Courtland, You may disregard. Thank you for setting me straight. I am afraid that I have not been here long enough to catch when peoples accounts are being fucked with. I also made the mistake of not reading through all of my mail and if I had I would have realized that you had not written that. I really didn't think I sent much of a flame but under the circumstances I think your reply was warranted. Well anyway, I am sorry.Top Permalink
Before we get a pro-Dave anti-Dave thing going, let me just please ask you all not to rip Courtland Eyrick for his misunderstanding and untimely review of the DMB. I actually have no problem reading anti-Dave sentiment, but by declaring Dave a bad performer because, in part, he "looks like he's gay," Courtland has shown his own illegitmacy as a reviewer, so he need not be taken seriously. Please, let's just leave it at again if you plan to be as closed minded and narrow as your post was. the same way I do but have less patience. Please heed this advice because we really don't need this shit. This has happened on the Phish net with competition between the Dead and Phish with all the name calling, etc. and we don't need it. Russ.Top Permalink
ah yet again a mild disturbance ensues. [tsk tsk tsk] maybe everybody should go listen to fugazi?! (i am... 13 songs) love causing the great swings of the galazies. the passion of love lighting the intense energy of the stars. the fantastic power of growth and reproduction of all of the life forces of the worlds. all of these forces are love. that's the image. the beauty of the concept can break your heart. love does make the world go round. are you a part of the great circle, or have you closed yoruself off from it? ahhhhhh.... now for a cigarette.... will anyone give me a hug before i nod out for the night? clare alice in wonderland emily 'when you feel terrific, notify your face!'Top Permalink
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To whoever said in digest 352 that Dave is not a good guitar player was WAY OFF BASE. Dave isn't a bad guitar player, as this person suggested, just because he uses chords that "aren't in the magazines or books" that this person has learned from. I'm a music major who's been playing guitar for over six big years now and who is a music major (classical guitar), but any type of artist would tell you that just because someone doesn't do it by the book doesn't mean that they're untalented. In fact, it suggests to me that they're all the more creative, especially Dave (who I understand is self-taught). Dave might not ALWAYS play standard folk chords; he often uses triadic inversions. And even if he was committing an unspeakable guitar sin by playing these non-standard chords, I wouldn't complain because I still think the tunes sound pretty damn good. All in all, Dave is an excellent self-taught rhythm guitar player and an incredible song writer to boot. I also have no complaints about his vocals. His voice is his trademark.Top Permalink
i just thought that, although i didn't personally post any comments, that i'd extend a net-wide apology to courtland--sorry, friend. you didn't deserve that flaming. as for the person who actually did write the post...well, i absolutely agree that they have every right to dislike dave, and to say so. i respectfully disagree with the statement about dave's guitar playing (so it's not in a book? that's a _good_ thing...) what really bothered me, though was the whole, "he looks like he's gay and on drugs" bit. now, we all know there's no such thing as "looking like you're gay," right? and even if he was, we all know that's just fine, right? just checking.Top Permalink
I may have some answers to the tuning question - Some have me pegged with perfect pitch (but I'm still a bit wary) - I can't hear any tunning difference in and of the songs, except Steffan occasionally with a dropped D on "Seek Up", "Dancing Nancies", and #36. He's also the only one I've witnessed tune down on stage so...however, I have heard several recordings of Satellite and (After Her) that are not in the same key as they appear in the album - this is probably due to being played in a different position - I won't go back into that whole intro bit - BUT, the interesting thing is that a few weeks back at the ritz in Raleigh,NC dave had his second guitar tuned to an eery dropped half-note. Maybe a quarter-step...Anyway, before they started "minarets" I noticed both Dave and Steffan change instruments - each with this new tuning I presume - and Boyd played some crafty stuff that I hadn't heard before. Leroi played with his sax a bit as well, although I don't know if you can change the pitch of a sax. The song had a very murky sound that I didn't much care for and I've never heard it since so...Perhaps dave is taking the next step and going into the realm of new tunings --- let's hope not though, then his songs might be REALLY hard to play. So as for now I'll keep doing my covers in standard tuning. food for thought---but not too muchTop Permalink
Okay I had to get in on it... dave is that good of a player. he plays in chords that i dont recognize, chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from. I just thought I might point out that anything with three or more notes can be considered a chord. Any three notes as long as they are DIFFERENT notes. But as far as Dave goes, well, you're WRONG. Just because when he plays a D chord he doesn't play it the standard la-di-da way doesn't make him any worse (in fact it makes him more knowledgable) a guitarist. Later my dears (especally cathy for ignoring me!), ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************Top Permalink
The 11/11/94 Dave Tree is officailly closed! I will be gettiong in touch with all of the members within the next day. Get ready, we mant to get this thing done fast! Peace & out... JaphyTop Permalink
Nope. Dave doesn't use none. At least he doesn't now. He's probably experimented with them in the past, but for a playing musician they can be a pain, especially when most Dave songs were written, Dave didn't have someone to take one guitar and tune it to, lets say, DADGAD (EVERYONE PLAY DADGAD! It's soooooo fun) while he's playing a tune in standard/another alternate tuning. But I'd love to hear what Dave could do with it. You can get lots of rich OSW-intro-like fingerpicking things with neato hypnotic drones going. The only slight change in tuning I can think of is Steffan tuning the low E down to D for Seek Up. Alternate tunings are keen, Dave just doesn't use them (I SWEAR cathy!) stressed ben just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************Top Permalink
I have a few comments to make regarding Courtland's request for an apology. The first is as a system administrator, it is my opinion that it doesn't matter WHO posted a message from your account, you are responsible for ensuring that you and only you use the account, and how it gets used. Second, just as whomever it was that posted the flamebait had every right to post it, everyone who replied had just as much of a right to do so. I responded with a low temperature answer to his message, and some chose the high temperature response. Posting flamebait is asking for that type of response. Please, in the future, if you decide that someone deserves crispy underwear, use email. And we (yup, I include myself here) should all publicly ignore flamebait. Dan -- Daniel J. Blanchat | Always retain some control over your actions, for djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - MeTop Permalink
--Boundary (ID 8Ido/xNUnz4LfxWzCyBxTA) --Boundary (ID 8Ido/xNUnz4LfxWzCyBxTA) i can play the bass string left-handed and you don't see that in any handbook, and i think i'm pretty damn good at it. didn't dmb play true and angel, that's a treat, i don't care if he looks gay (by the way i saw him with a girl on two separate occasions) at the knoxville show. the band isn't lifeless, just your impression is. cat stevens comparison. Now when I think about it, you're kind of right on this on. Stevens' violin player and saxophonist were amazing. i tihnk he's the one who originally did ants marching. van morrison comparison, if you want easy chords to play to back up your guitar knowledge, look no further than to van. that's enough for now. it's always fun to jump on any bandwagon once in a while. --Boundary (ID 8Ido/xNUnz4LfxWzCyBxTA)--Top Permalink
I do not know if it has already been mentioned, but I have two interesting facts. First, for those near Atlanta over Christmas, Dave is playing at the Fox Theater on Dec. 27. Tickets go on sale Saturday and are through Ticketmaster. Hope to see you there. Second, I just heard that DMB sold out London. Is this true? GeoffreyTop Permalink
hey everyone- The band thanks Algood for letting them open for them. I think it is Carter Buford who says he's looking forward to their show. Well, here's the list. DMB@ W&L Pavilion 2-6-93 Satellite Granny Lie in our Graves Help Myself The Maker Ants Warehouse (with funky lyrics added by Dave!!) Minarets Bluewater (great violin jam!!) Halloween So much to say True Reflections Recently There you have it. I may be interested in spreding this tape around in the near future for those of you who don't have it. ThanksTop Permalink
Charlottesville. He said you were doomed. [;-)just kidding netters!] ben, i think you were around these parts when r2t came out, and this is exactly what happened. talk about a flame war... in fact i know you were here, you reposted that review a couple of weeks ago... All you C'villers and other Virginians who get to see Dave and company on a regular, in fact quite frequent, basis, PLEASE realize just how lucky you are. I know that on the net are mostly the real fans and not the drunken assholes who scream for Halloween and Warehouse every Tuesday night at Trax and piss the band off, but come on! I've got to go and personally thank the guy to come up here (maybe next time he'll get to do more than eight tunes) and some people down in Virginia give 'em a hard time in their own backyard! now hold on folks....dave has played the c-ville area 4 times since jan 1: 2-22, 4-20, 9-27 and 11-9. i think people from colorado are fairing better than that... ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
Ben.... thanks. I remember when they had to flip on the houselights and pull Dave off the stage just as he started into Watchtower at a little after 2 am. Too bad I was so computer-illiterate at the time, I could've met up with some minaretters! Happy with 1000 screaming fans, but reminiscing about $10 admission and free beer for everyone (elm city beer, I believe), It's been a while since I've seen a newbie offer... remember, the band allows taping, so should you!Top Permalink
liberty of sending a copy of this tree to the fellas in DC via our friend Randy. here or there, so PLEASE double check this. I've posted this to lots of relevant places so that ya'll can double check me. I repeat, PLEASE CHECK YOUR ADDRESS! there who wanted copies in hierarchical order. Actually, the worst any of you will do is a 2 gen copy from the analog end. I don't know how may copies Gray will be spinning on his DAT, but should be a large tree, I hope. If you're a branch, you asked to be one or didn't mind spinning several copies, ie 3-5+. I'm personally making about 10-15, but I work fast, so if you don't want to trade, get your blanks to me quick! If you do want to trade, please let me know soon. I have some trades on hold till I can get some stuff to trade. Newbies get a tape from a board, that means everything, and if the band permits, just hook in, and get a 0 gen analog board, that's what I have and then tree the sucker, and get lots of good stuff to trade with all the folks who want trades, and not blanks. Soap box over. Here's the tree and if ANYONE has questions, or I misspelled your email address, let me know quickly, so I can change it. This list is being posted to your account, minarets, bt-net, horde-net, Underwater People, and everything's account. Hope this helps, and maybe if any of you are going to NYE in DC, I might just see you there at the board! I hope Ryan'll let me tape. later, peace, and may the soulfish swim with ya! minute tape to get all the cool chatter. There's even an incident recorded for posterity, but you'll get some good filler, but mediocre quality from 3/93 Davidson PiKA, some rare stuff! Don't complain, it'll be great! written above...[ grovel grovel]. If you want to just do blanks that's okay too. For all you folks who are trading with me or are Rolling, Let's get this a f*cking rolling, man!" wifoy@davidson.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
Well, ,I mean, whose last seven shows have included 7 satellites and 0 Grannys couldn't be there. It's a good sign though Greg. Keep your head up. Maybe at NYE Dave will give you a little treat. Anyway, keep the dream alive, and who are you taking to formal this weekend?Top Permalink
My mailbox has been absolutely flooded with responses about that girl who thought Dave and band were not good. My two cents(hey, everyone else had a turn): All I have to say is that I came across a live tape of Dave 2 years ago and I thought the playing and lyrics were the most original and inspiring I've heard in a long time. That's all I have to say. Kantor, I'm sending your requests by Friday. That is if this Tropical Storm doesn't turn into a hurricane. It's time to seal up the windows and turn this building into a submarine. Good vibes to all, ADAMTop Permalink
Does anyone out there have a copy of Dave Matthew's Nov 7@ Irving Plaza? I have a lot of phish and GSW to trade. Any help will be appreciated.Top Permalink
Hey Now, response to the Courtland post. It was just a misunderstanding, and the blatent flamebait of his roomate (I think his name is Asshole). Let's talk about more positive things like how UTTAD is number 1 in RS in the alternative section!Top Permalink
All you C'villers and other Virginians who get to see Dave and company on a regular, in fact quite frequent, basis, PLEASE realize just how lucky you are. I know that on the net are mostly the real fans and not the drunken assholes who scream for Halloween and Warehouse every Tuesday night at Trax and piss the band off, but come on! I've got to go and personally thank the guy to come up here (maybe next time he'll get to do more than eight tunes) and some people down in Virginia give 'em a hard time in their own backyard! now hold on folks....dave has played the c-ville area 4 times since jan 1: 2-22, 4-20, 9-27 and 11-9. i think people from colorado are fairing better than that... Just a reminder about this minarets-history thing-- the post above that Rick quotes is from a year ago. Things were different then. We begged to get them out of the DC-to-Charlotte area. Come to think of it, a THREE-night stand in Boulder? They're going to HAVE to pull out some rare ones to keep it fresh by the third night. -BenTop Permalink
The band thanks Algood for letting them open for them. I think it is Carter Buford who says he's looking forward to their show. Well, here's hehehe I had always hoped someone would switch my last name with carter's. Too bad I'm a guitar/bass player. Oh well, Stefan Buford sounds pretty hip also.... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | "The future is no place to place your better days..." | | | |v3.1 |-) David Matthews | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Seeing as this is a hot new topic in Dave's guitar playing, maybe we should give a little lesson on it and toss it in the tab file. I have played for many years but only took lessons for a short while, so basically and inverted triad chord don't mean nuthin' to mean. I know a lot of the funky chords that dave uses, but I call them the "Funky say Goodbye" chord or the "Back You Up/Lover Lay Down" E-chord or the "Tripping Billies/Lover" little fingering... anyone wanna post, or send me personally, a little inverted traid chord lesson/explanation?? Latr.... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford '96 | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | "You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?" | | "No..." | | "A Royale with Cheese...." | | | | Ezekiel 25:17 | | | |v4.0 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
Rusted Root will be on Conan O'Brien toniteTop Permalink
Hi all excellent, and when speaking with an employee of Ziggy's tavern, he stated that in all his years of seein dmb that was the most sober he has ever seen dave. anyway i think it probably had something to do with the church thing, ya know? this could probably account for the lack of energy and lack of movement (boyd). there were also equipment problems as well. i'm very jealous of the fact that y'all got to here granny, i was waiting for it in winston and also boone. when it wasn't played in knoxville either, i was concerned. just my thoughtsTop Permalink
I personally think that dave sounds like my buddy cory, they're both completely wack... on a more realistic note, how about the master Mr. Michael Stipe? Listen to Jimmi and Inside out back to back and I dare you to ignore the similarities...And now both are almost (and completely) bald. gee what? seanTop Permalink
I'm new to minarets, and relatively new to DMB. I am looking for any tapes I can get, and I have a lot of good recent phish and GSW to trade. Anyone interested, please let me know. -AdamTop Permalink
554 "|/usr/server/catmail -L MINARETS -f"... unknown mailer error 14 Just let me say that for once I'm glad it's not me being flamed. Now down to business, am I mistaken or at one time wasn't "Christmas Song" titled "Blood"? Does anyone have a copy of the Lisner show that they would like to trade (after thanksgiving)? A friend of mine suggested that we call ourselves Satellites, because we all circle around Dave and we are all held togehther by his gravity. Were it not for him we would all just be spinning around in the cosmos and not tied down here with each other. As much as I would like to despise the name, it is quite apropos. Clare, I don't know you, but I want to give you a big hug! :-) For all of you looking for a newbie offer, wait until after T-giving and need to send blanks? To the person above me? Why is my head spinning? Is it another one for ya', this one's from the Lex show-"I have alittle sister, she just got engaged. Her name is Jane, this is The Song that Jane Likes!"(yes, jeff, that's true). I really should go eat/sleep, sorry for rambling, but there are a few questions in there that do need answering. Anybody who's made it this far deserves a piping-hot "Toast-on-a-Stick!" "Hey! That guy's got my head!" AD INFINITUM, for your pleasure, cool refreshing Marlboros are provided in the lounge of this message.Top Permalink
I MUST urge that the name for Dave followers NOT, REPEAT NOT be "Satellites"... ...hell...if that's the case, why not call ourselves "ants marching to the fucking slaughter"??? or for that matter, "Schmutz"s??? NO...no way...not gonna do it... Find a better song to describe me by...if you must... i prefer to be called "a fan". WadeTop Permalink
Hey all! Im ready for the 12/27 show in atlanta. The Fox Theater will be an awesome setting. Hope to see many of you there! As far as the infamous scandal concerning the letter about the K-vile show, IM GLAD ITS DYING DOWN! I love DMB as much as the rest of you do. We simply have to ignore comments like that. Everyone has an opinion. I just think it was a dumb way to present it. this is a DMB internet for God's sake !!! the person should (and i suppose DID know) the rage and hostility the letter would cause. The person simply wanted attention and plenty was given! Now lets drop it and immerse ourselves in saxophones, violins, drums, guitars, bass and fade away with Dave's lyrics lingering in our ears........................Top Permalink
Hello all! I am pretty new to the internet and moderately new (one year) to DMB but completely love 'em! I would love to get some tapes from old shows but am afraid I can't offer much in return. :( Also does anyone have a copy of the Lupo's show in Providence, RI? What an absolutely amazing and fun show! If anyone can be of any assistance, i am much obliged. Thanks!Top Permalink
I suscribe to Rolling Stone but have not noticed Dave in the alternative charts. Maybe I have not gotten the newest issue but the latest one I have gotten does not even have the charts in it--it is the Generation X issue. Can anyone tell me who is on the cover of the issue in question??? By the way, this is not the first time the DMB has made it into Rolling Stone. Right after Remember Two Things came out, they also made the alternative charts in Rolling Stone one issue. I don't remember the issue number or anything but I think they were something like number 5 in this particular one. Since then, I have not noticed them anywhere else on the charts in RS. Thanks to anyone who can help. Paul ChandlerTop Permalink
Hey. Heres a few questions I have. Any truth to the rumor that Dave does a cover of Zep's Tangerine? Where will dmb be on new years eve? I also heard that 'Jane' got engaged... Any reviews from the acoustic show last week in NYC w/ Shannen Worrall? What the hell is the thing that hangs from Dave's right side? Its like "could i have been caught in public in my underpants..." Replys are welcome... DaveTop Permalink
Two nights ago, Dave and rusted root ended their tour at Indiana. Dave played 2 and half hours and played everything off their cd's except typical situation lover lay down, #34, halloween, and watchtower. The show ended with Root and Dave playing "minarets". In all there were 11 people on stage, which was pretty nice. They also played cry freedom and a few other tunes that I can't remember. Boyd got in on the vocals for a song and dave played an excellent version of jimi thing. During the show dave said something funny to a girl who turned 21 that night. He said... "It's great for 2 or 3 months or a year and then it starts to suck...and then you start to drink alone". I don't know if you tried to be funny guy or to see how many people would dislike you? Perhaps you wrote a letter on why you dislike dave on the Dave Network because you were dropped on your head when you were little, or maybe you were born retarded, or could you actually be that parking lot attendant that dave frequently sings about. Anyway you look at it your message was disliked and you should consider retiring from the network if you decide to post such garbage in the future. Davison north carolina I would greatly appreciate it. The reason being is that I could be heading down there Dec.9-11 for final four in soccer. So if anyone has any info on where to stay, or even where Davison is at I would appreciate it.Top Permalink
I just joined the Dave Net today. I must say that the mail I've recieved so far is very interesting. I go to Allegheny college in Meadville Pennsylvania. My brother goes to Wake Forest and has seen many shows at Ziggy's. He started giving me tapes about two years ago, and "The Best Of What's Around and Granny" blew my mind. I caught the band on October first in Philadelphia with and band called From good Homes. the show was as amazing a set list as I have ever heard dave play. On Oct 7, I caught the band with another group that is huge where I am called Rusted Root. Root headlined and kicked all kinds of ass. Dave played a shorter set but was still great. If anyone has any tapes they would like to excchange, I am definitely interested. I have many I can offer in return. -Styx... P.S. Carter Beaufort is a very nice man to talk to. Really!!!!---What the fuck was that?Top Permalink
hey all, between songs leroi starts playing a minuet by beethoven (i'm pretty sure). i thought it was really cool and i wondered if anyone else has heard him do this. just curious (and avoiding studying). p.s. i'm dying for a copy of 11/9/94. please help me. how 'bout a tree? anyone?Top Permalink
Hello There, I have to say Minarets gets an "A" for handling that well placed piece of flamebait. No one seemed to take it too seriously, and most everyone who responded did so with intelligently and with minimal "Dave is God - so you're wrong". We seem to be farther up on the evolutionary ladder than our counterparts, the DeadWipes and the Phishwipes 8^) (anyone else follow those ridiculous Phish vs. Dead epics?). As far as alternate tunings, I wasn't there in the early early days, and I've never seen Dave do any extensive tuning between songs, and the only time I've seen him switch geetars is when he breaks a string. I doubt his roomate/guitar-tuner guy does the alternate tungings for him. see yous later, KwonTop Permalink
The poem below was written by Lara Call and she gets a tape for her efforts serious and some were goofy, but i liked them all... Ode to dmb The band plays some good tunes, I like to listen to them when my head is in fumes, (or when my roomate is trying to sleep) Some tunes are cool, others make me weep. I like to paint while listening to dave, His songs give me inspiration that I often crave. None of the songs are repetitive or alike, That is one of the many reasons it is dmb that I like. But, i really don't have time to be Dickinson or Poe, I just want to say dmb can put on a great show! Lara Call 0 0 ljc5p@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu -------- l o l "You and me and all our two more daze until i get to go home!!!!!!!Top Permalink
Gees peats folks! Courland said he didn't do it and he apologized for what happened! I've always thought of the folks on this net as being laid back and cool about stuff but I'm starting to wonder! I'd also appreciate it if some of y'all you stop bashing Sewanee. Dave's got a lot of fans up here on the mountain and every time I see him he talks about comin back up here. We're out in the middle of nowhere so people don't tend to lock their doors or worry about their stuff being tampered with. For people like me who leave their computer on 24/7 that means any one could walk in and use my comp. But I don't worry about it cause we have an honor code. Obviously it has its weaknesses but you can't blame Courtland for that. So lets just drop the subject and forget this little incident ever happened. We're here (Courtland included) because we love Dave, not because we hate people who don't. Just my $.02 worth Jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and stick together." --Robert Fulghum "Lost in the arms of morpheous -- that somnambulistic state of glorious oblivion......" --my daddy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jennie Akins SPO 1117 735 University Avenue Sewanee, TN 37383-1000 akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.eduTop Permalink
wow. lara call's been totally on the ball lately.. she won my buffalo question and a free show because of it.. neato schmeato! go eat blue popsicles. 'excuse me but can i be you for awhile?' love and light, maid marian ******************************************************************************* *******************************************************************************Top Permalink
Dave is Number 1 in the latest RS. (Brad Pitt Cover), In the alt.charts from DC.... DaveTop Permalink
--Boundary (ID 8+0cGw5ExqWt/06BN4DfOQ) --Boundary (ID 8+0cGw5ExqWt/06BN4DfOQ) Hey all, Sorry to courtland, I understand that it was a mean joke that your roomie pla played on you...but I was shocked aat the amount of attention you recieved for suckh a post! I am a relative newbie(but not a "screamwbie compared to all of you guys, I have onlyt been on the newt fo a little while or three months, and have only liked Dave for about a year or so, forgive me St. Louis is not a very the place to live if you like music Since I have been on minarets I have only posted a few times, and was sad to come home to an empty mailbox except for digests-thank . I have tried emai-mailing people personally, and only recieved one response(THANX JOSH G gG.!) But other than that my prospecting prfor tapes has gone over trather poorly. I hate to say that I only have tow two Dave tapeslive LIVE daDave tapes(1st CD Release Party). When I hear all yof of you guys talking aboiut how great all these songs are IT SIXSUCKS! My virgin rears have never heard "Halloween" nor #@"36" ." The problem is...I WANT TO HEAR THIS STUFF ist seems like nobodyy is willing to take the time to help me get my collection started, I have Phish & Dead to offer, not much else ish(sorry, no 94's sbsds) and Dead to offerrr. , but nobody seems to want any of thismy stuff. If everybody who "FLAMED" Coutrtland could agree to spin someone whi o LIKES Dave one or two tapes...I would be off to a great start I hate to waste so mych bandwidth on a GROVEL, but I don't know how else I can get my hab``nds on some tasty tapes. I f anyone has the time, aor is simplyy kind enough to help me out, simply e-mail me or post it to the digest-although posting your kindness on the digest may set you up for mayny unwanted requests. ANY HELP WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIEAATED. You all are so kind to reaeachother, this net is so much different than Phish.Net wherer all the Vets sit bacjk and BITCH abougt how great things used to pbe, I hope I will be able to experience some of this gerneroiusity for myself. Thanks to all thoiss e who acknowledyhege , and sorry to all of the people who thihnhnk I am ridiculuoous for asking suchg a question. later, I wdone't want to waste any more speace... Thomas J. SLlyy St. Louis, Mo. Sly@sluvca.slu.edu P.S. Dont flame me for thiss...but I' d really like to know thwhat "spooning" means Thanks again to all you cool people out therree who respond. Are any . peace --Boundary (ID 8+0cGw5ExqWt/06BN4DfOQ)--Top Permalink
zBi,]k ******************************************************************************* ******************************************************************************* I am glad that all of you love Dave but so do i. However my roomate does not and wrote that nasty letter. I would appreciate it if you would quit writting about it. Ask the net master herself,Clare that is, i am a true Dave fan Courtland EyrickTop Permalink
To the person that said they saw DMB in Rolling Stone after R2T came out, R2T was #1 on that chart, but I think that was only for a week. "let's trip the wild fantastic with the world as your lover...." As always, for your convenience smoking IS allowed in my message.Top Permalink
I am glad that all of you love Dave but so do i. However my roomate does not and wrote that nasty letter. I would appreciate it if you would quit writting about it. Ask the net master herself,Clare that is, i am a true Dave fan Courtland Eyrick ah courtland.. you flatter me so.... i am but a simple girl wanting simple things. i say we all lay off this guy with the cool-ass name.. ok? love and light..... maid marian (the feminine-tomboy) ******************************************************************************* *******************************************************************************Top Permalink
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Hello to all. This message is about our old buddy Tim Reynolds. I saw a flyer saying that TR3, Tims band, I think, is playing her in old Blacksburg. I have seen Tim play with Dave 4 times now, but never in his own band. The flyer showed pictures of the band, but I didn't see Tim in it. Is he still playing with TR3? If anyone knows much about TR3, if you could tell me whats up I would appreciate it. If it's Tim I'll stay and go see them play. Thanks! Scott Miller- Virginia Tech 529 Shanks Hall Blacksburg, VA 24060 sctm@vt.edu "Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"Top Permalink
I haven't seen the lyrics to Get In Line posted yet so i figured i'd try it out. The following was transcribed from 10/9/94. There are a couple indistinguishable parts which i have marked with (?).I'm sure there are tapes out there where the lyrics are clearer, and probably people with better transcriptions and interpretations. anyway... GET IN LINE (the first line i'm totally lost on) don't bump me, don't bump me if you mind i come run over say hey i'm handl(ing) and hours and hours stand in line no faith does grow from this mess here i work time to spend on my dreams see going hungry and so them, they're waiting said oh don't worry here till the battle said oh yes running faster and faster by said oh ( ? ) no worry said oh ( ? )trouble(?) to stand by said oh don't worry will be say please don't worry in said oh yeah i wonder i wonder it's amazing ( ? ) if you don't get in line when they take will they give back again? when this thing comes, this refusal to ride came on a boat, came on a plane, to make all they say is man stand up get in line and if i don't get to you come back but i'm tired of this tired of this faded line so i tell you man sometimes i want to say oh what can i say to my wife, my children oh dreams ( ? ) in this place but oh but oh said oh man i'm growing cold and said oh man don't you see what i mean said oh this crazy mess got me extreme i say but don't worry but i say let me do this, said oh i worry said oh i see i see ( ? ) inviting me into your doorstep oh, angry and wanting to rake it all in i'm taken surprise in this hole, i'm said god don't take me for granted, they are faced with disgust,Top Permalink
Hi all, I'm located directly in front of richsun7, one of many hated computer terminals here at Georgia Tech. On top of that, I'm programming instead of having fun tonight...but, I'm listening to dave on the headset... "could I have been anyone other than me..."....and I'm in a great mood. Funny how that works, huh?! Think of me while you laugh and play in the fields of unending (well, for a while at least) pleasure. (that last line is for all of those who are enjoying Dave and have nothing more to concern them at the time...oh, if life could be so heavenly.) I'll see you all in Atlanta. Much Grass, ShugTop Permalink
Does anyone have a program to make tape covers? I am going to try and make some covers for my Dave tapes...I have enough now :)Top Permalink
The Dave Matthews Band Under the Table and Dreaming Top 10 reasons to give this a listen. by Robert Beverly 10. Fiddler Boyd Tinsley broke up his own succesful group to join the DMB. 9. Songs combine multi-layered arrangements with plenty of open space. To that extant, they are the musical equivalent of a croissant, or a perfect souffle, or maybe a . . . well, you get the idea. 8. Steve Lillywhite, who produced early albums by Peter Gabriel and U2, asked if he could produce Under the Table and Dreaming. 7. The Dave Matthews Band is the only band that is anchored by a jazz drummer and a classicaly trained bassist, has no electric guitar, and can somehow get compared to Pearl Jam, Aaron Neville, Blues Traveler, and Michael Stipe. 6. Dave, who sounds like no one else on Earth, is the only member of the band with no Native American blood. (Sorry, I realize that this is not a reason-this is a factoid.) 5. Having made their reputation playing live, the band recorded the basic tracks for Under the Table and Dreaming the same way. 4. Lyrics contemplate philosophy while taking you around the world in been a millionare in Bel Air?/Could I have been lost somwhere in Paris?/Could I have been your little brother?" 3. The DMB is the most talented, eclectic group of musicians to record a major label debut this year, and that debut, Under the Table and Dreaming is excellent. 2. You can ignore the opinions like the one above and decide for yourself. 1. Paul Schaffer makes absolutley no guest appearances whatsoever. Music Monitor, issue no. 66! Scott Miller- Virginia Tech 529 Shanks Hall Blacksburg, VA 24060 sctm@vt.edu "Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"Top Permalink
Does anyone have a program to make tape covers? I am going to try and make some covers for my Dave tapes...I have enough now :) I'd like to suggest caselinr.exe for Windows 3.1. It prints out very nice tape covers for you... Find it at your local SimTel archive or better. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
I MUST urge that the name for Dave followers NOT, REPEAT NOT be "Satellites"... ..hell...if that's the case, why not call ourselves "ants marching to the fucking slaughter"??? or for that matter, "Schmutz"s??? NO...no way...not gonna do it... Find a better song to describe me by...if you must... i prefer to be called "a fan". Wade how about ...."Jimi's" ? mike ___ let's get down to the... nitty grittyTop Permalink
OK- I have been a dave fan for a while, got my first tapes through the usual channels, my buddy, bob. Anyway, those tapes were good to listen to, but not the best quality. I have been taping for quite some time. Us up here in Syracuse don't get much Dave, ever! They played with HORDE this summer, but a Rochester show never surfaced. Back to the point of this message, everyone, wants good tapes right? I think that we all need to keep a few thigngs in mind, while trading amongst each other. 1. First off clean your decks (most of us take showers every day right?). this is the same thing, that means demagnization, and head cleaning. Cost less than 10 bucks to get this stuph, and it lasts a life time. 2. Please record source and generation. Many people want to know this, I personally don't mind getting a tape or two without knowing the gen. I have some phish tapes which are 8 or nine years old and I know the gen. Dave isn't that old, and more than half of my tapes are of unknown generation. Basically the standard for this is that DAT's dont "age" generation wise. Analogs do. First copy off DAT, or source is 0 gen or master, then the first copy of that is 1 gen, 2nd, etc... 3. have some idea, what your tapes sound like in relation to others, ie dont explain that your so fuckin great awesome tape from the end of 93 is the best and I have to have it, and then I get it and it sounds like dave and the bunch are playing inside a tin can. They haven't ever played a show inside a tin can. Have they? ;-) 4. And please take this for what it is worth. I don't want to insult anyone, I have traded with, or that I might trade with in the future. Please follow these or some similar guidelines when making tapes for others and trading in the future. It is good karma(whatever that is) to spread good dave, or anything else you might be interested in, I am sure that It will manifest into some sweet sounding tapes falling into your lap some day. 5. And remember the more you spread the music the more others will understand what dave is about. And to all of you who have kept with me through this rambling, I will make a newdie offer, actually just a newbie offer for all you newbies, I will make you some Dave, just get in touch, the tapes I will make are my first two good quality tapes. 2-27-93 I,II 90min I dont think it is a full show. and II of 3-4-94 90min. Get in touch with me, I think I am going to limit this to ten, so write fast. Any how these tapes are both master analog from a DAT. Yours will be first gen, keep it going, whoever you make these for, theirs will be 2nd gen. And you know the rest, the key to reducing hiss is clean and demagnitized heads. Thanks again for listening and enjoy the break, all you collegians out there, I know I will. later -tim Tim Kreytak I Don't know when the last time you had a large 411 Bronson Road real full vomit, but you're totally out of control of Syracuse, NY 13219 your body, your body is telling your mind to f**k kreytatd@maple.lemoyne.edu what good music is. -TreyTop Permalink
1)I still have yet to get the Shannon Worrell tapes from here at W&L, but when I do I'll set up some kind of tree since I've had a few requests. I'll post more later, especially when I finish this 15 page paper due in 12 hours that I haven't started.... 2)anyone know any good lawyers in the Davie County area, This goes out especially to those at Wake Forest, any ideas on legal counsel.. *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford '96 | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | "You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?" | | "No..." | | "A Royale with Cheese...." | | | | Ezekiel 25:17 | | | |v4.0 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*Top Permalink
I am a DMB fan from Davidson college in Davidson N.C. And have listened to dave for about two years. I think that this internet set up is great. I play a lot of his songs on guitar and I looking for some chord tablature. Does anyone else play his stuff? I guess I should leave a quote because everyone else does. "Oh Little Chicken, eyes staring up at you"--Oct.31. I want some mail so somebody write me and explain to me why carter wheres spandex when he plays. No disrespect, he is the best drummer I have ever heard. Listen to one sweet world a couple times and you will seeTop Permalink
that thing is dave's guitar strap, and the reason it hangs so well (double entendre not intended;) is that he plays with his guitar hiked way, way up. most guitarists play with the guitar way down near their waste (peter hook of new order plays with his bass literally haning at his knees), but dave prefers it up on his chest. with the narrow body guitars he uses, it makes sense, because the constant rhythmic motion of his right hand (oy, this is starting to sound like the smurf post) can get tiring if his arm is too low. i've tried it, and though it doesn't make sense here in print, it does make sense in practice. for those of you who play rhythm guitar, remember how tricky it got the first few times you played standing up? well, having the guitar pulled up high mimics the sitting down postion, and it's easy to pull it up high without the bulk of a full body guitar. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
I'm sorry, but I just can not handle so much mail! I get too much to sort through. So please disconnect me. Sorry for any inconvienence.Top Permalink
Top 10 reasons to give this a listen. by Robert Beverly 10. Fiddler Boyd Tinsley broke up his own succesful group to join the DMB. is this true? 9. Songs combine multi-layered arrangements with plenty of open space. To that extant, they are the musical equivalent of a croissant, or a perfect souffle, or maybe a . . . well, you get the idea. er....is this true? 8. Steve Lillywhite, who produced early albums by Peter Gabriel and U2, asked if he could produce Under the Table and Dreaming. well, if you hate u2 and peter gabriel, you can tell dave to f**k off... 7. The Dave Matthews Band is the only band that is anchored by a jazz drummer and a classicaly trained bassist, has no electric guitar, and can somehow get compared to Pearl Jam, Aaron Neville, Blues Traveler, and Michael Stipe. well, this is true. 6. Dave, who sounds like no one else on Earth, is the only member of the band with no Native American blood. (Sorry, I realize that this is not a reason-this is a factoid.) again, is this really true? i didn't know that boyd, leroi, carter and stefan all had indian blood in them. that's what Native American means. maybe native American... 5. Having made their reputation playing live, the band recorded the basic tracks for Under the Table and Dreaming the same way. i'll by that. 4. Lyrics contemplate philosophy while taking you around the world in been a millionare in Bel Air?/Could I have been lost somwhere in Paris?/Could I have been your little brother?" 3. The DMB is the most talented, eclectic group of musicians to record a major label debut this year, and that debut, Under the Table and Dreaming is excellent. this is definitely true. :) 2. You can ignore the opinions like the one above and decide for yourself. no, no, i'm a top 40 FREAK!!!! i LIKE people making decision for me.... 1. Paul Schaffer makes absolutley no guest appearances whatsoever. thank god. this egg shaped presentation has been brought to you by the letter 0, an undrilled bowling ball, and a pair of safety siccors. ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________Top Permalink
HEY ALL! DONT FORGET TO STAY UP TONIGHT TO CATCH RUSTED ROOT'S PERFORMANCE ON CONAN O'BRIAN. APPRECIATED. THE ATLANTA SHOW IS SCHEDULED FOR 12/27. IT SAYS SO ON THE DMB MAILING LIST AND SEVERAL ON THE NET HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE FOX THEATER AND SOLD BY TICKETMASTER. EARLIER TODAY I CALLED THE GA TICKETMASTER AND THEY CONFIRMED THAT ITS TRUE. TONIGHT I CALLED THEM BACK TO ASK A CERTAIN QUESTION AND NOW THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY HAVE NO SHOWING OF A DMB SHOW. THEY SAY THAT (EVERYONE SITTING DOWN FOR THIS?) ...BON JOVI IS SCEDULED TO PLAY AT THE FOX ON 12/27! WHAT THE HELL!?!? SOMEONE HELP AND FIGURE THIS ONE OUT. SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS.Top Permalink
6. Dave, who sounds like no one else on Earth, is the only member of the band with no Native American blood. (Sorry, I realize that this is not a reason-this is a factoid.) again, is this really true? i didn't know that boyd, leroi, carter and stefan all had indian blood in them. that's what Native American means. maybe native American... amsterdam... :) ================================================================================ | Always attempt to lose all control over disco dan |your actions, for when you act by instinct Free James Brown! |alone, you become as the gods that wish to damojonnier@davidson.edu |become you. -Me Tampa Nuggets Sublime ================================================================================Top Permalink
do I get there.... it's simple. We're nestled deep in the northern end of Mecklenberg County, about 20 north of Charlotte, NC. I's-85 and 77 provide access. Be prepared to walk a lot if you're here for the NCAA finals in Men's Soccer. If you can orient yourself to Charlotte, then we're north on 77 at Exit 30, which will read "Davidson-Davidson College" and you'll figure out the rest, when you get backed up on the interstate. From 85, we're about 25 miles north of Charlotte, and take the Concord Exit. You'll take a left if you're coming northbound, right if southbound and go for about 3-4 miles. You'll see a sign that says Davidson - and you'll take that right and go for about a mile at which point, you'll run into a stop/yield sign and a t-intersection. take a left and be prepared to park somewhere and it'll likely be expensive, hey it should be if we have to move all of our cars.... anyway, hope that helps. any minarnetters coming to the final four, give me a buzz via email or call me when you get here. i'd love to meet you guys/ya'll ;). Bring your lists... have indeed evolved over our compatriots even the national midnight star as recently as last year had lots o flamebait. wish i could'a been there for the wait show, as I live in winston when I'm not slaving over my courses here at Davidson. Peace, Will -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Top Permalink
While connected to sewanee.edu [152.97.1.50] (tcp): HELO seraph1.sewanee.edu 553 Local configuration error, hostname not recognized as local 554 eyriccc0@sewanee.edu... Service unavailable courtland, a thought. there's really no need for the hate mail you sent me, though i do understand your hostility. so let's call it even. no hard feelings, o.k.? school down the road at baylor in chattavegas and i really do miss the mountains, the colder weather, and the excellent rock climbing. But i traded all of that for four years in the sun. don't rag on Rollins, it got rated #3 in the south this year. besides, i am getting a fine education, plus a tan, plus a chance to waterski for a national championchip team. but that doesn't mean i wouldn't like to have a degree from the University of the South, but i'll cope. anyway, please don't be angry. c-ya later. -hattonTop Permalink
Would the personkind person whoi replied to my grovel -a person from C'ville, I hat e to ask, but could you please send me your e-mail address once more,e. I was reading your setlist and accidently sopmehow this terminal got disconnected, list of tapes(quite extensive) and somehow this terminal doicscioonnected tiitself-Thanx. Sorry to all for the wasted bandwidth. Cahtheriinngne, we have to sppontrtry spooning together sometime! later Thomas J. SLyly StSly@sluvca.slu.edu thankss to all others who rhave rexsponded to my post. peaceTop Permalink
Does anyone know where I can get some high quality dirtball soundboards? I'll pay top dollar. dirtmanTop Permalink
me and johnfro saw a really sweet band tonight at Duke called God Street Wine. They really jam and you all should check them out if you can b/c N18 Ziggy's in Winston Salem N19 Crossroads - c'ville N21 Floodzone -richmond N23 Stony Pony -asbury pk, ny D 7 East Stroudsberg U. - the fighting enigineers!!! D 9 penn st - Tatoo D 13 northampton, mass -pearl st. D 30 the Bayou in D.C. D 31 Irving Plaza in the City Sorry for the non-dmb material but GSW is good so I wanted to pass the word. I love clare and so does johnfro. Nebulous Ben of New York is my main man! "if i could, i would, but i don't know how..." phish sandyTop Permalink
1. Paul Schaffer makes absolutley no guest appearances whatsoever. thank god. While I am not a member of the Paul Schaffer fan club, this is obviously a reference to the new BT album, on which Paul makes a guest appearance and I would have to say that it is a damn fine album. Not that any of this is a reason to or not to listen to either of these albums, just thought I would share. bye... Justin | "..old enough to know what's right, but young enough | Roweman | not to choose it...noble enough to win the world, but | croutons@leland. | weak enough to lose it" | stanford.edu | -Rush |On a midnight radio..Top Permalink
interested in DAT machines and now the new mini-disc. Mini-discs are still really freakin expensive and I think DAT's are cheaper. I read the FAQ, but it wasn't too explicit as to the cost and benifits etc.. Some of you out there have DAT machines, are they worth the money? Has anything been released in DAT format such as new albums? How much are blank tapes, etc... specific machines and prices I would be greatful. This might cheer up those Oh was that sooo funny. Yikes they're throwing tomatoes! Scott Miller- Virginia Tech 529 Shanks Hall Blacksburg, VA 24060 sctm@vt.edu "Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"Top Permalink
sorry that all of you have to read this but i can not get it sent straight to russ Russ, at sewanee we have computer in every room, classroom or dorm room. I do not have to go anywhere to type a message, therefore if my roomate wants to use my computer to incite a riot he can. He does not have to have any password or he doesn't have to have any account. I think the net could use some more anti-dave stuff, but it wasn't me who did it. I know dave personally and respect his talents as a muscian. Still there is no reason for all the flaming that occured over one message. Why don't you just leave it alone. courtlandTop Permalink
I MUST urge that the name for Dave followers NOT, REPEAT NOT be "Satellites"... ..hell...if that's the case, why not call ourselves "ants marching to the fucking slaughter"??? or for that matter, "Schmutz"s??? NO...no way...not gonna do it... Find a better song to describe me by...if you must... i prefer to be called "a fan". Wade how about ...."Jimi's" ? mike ___ let's get down to the... nitty gritty Personally, I kind of like...Top Permalink
sounds similar to mine. After six yrs. as a day student at McCallie, I just couldn't resist four years in the sun (it's a different sun out here, believe it or not). Anyway, you also mentioned climbing, and I know (or used to know) quite a few climbers in Chatt, several of them Baylor students. When did you graduate? BTW, in case you get Climbing magazine, one of my friends recently went to Junior Worlds in Berlin, and he's often in the mag; anyways, I can't get in touch with him and I'd like to find out how he did, so if you'd sift through Climbing looking for the name Sam Adams, It'd be much appreciated.Top Permalink
Sorry about that last message, it wasn't meant for the entire net!Top Permalink
Justin, haven't talked to you for a while. 1. Paul Schaffer makes absolutley no guest appearances whatsoever. thank god. While I am not a member of the Paul Schaffer fan club, this is obviously a reference to the new BT album, on which Paul makes a guest appearance and I would have to say that it is a damn fine album. Not that any of this is a reason to or not to listen to either of these albums, just thought I would share. bye... Justin | "..old enough to know what's right, but young enough | Roweman | not to choose it...noble enough to win the world, but | croutons@leland. | weak enough to lose it" | stanford.edu | -Rush |On a midnight radio..Top Permalink
Sorry about all four of these messages, I think I just wasted about a year's worth of bandwidth. Our system must be entirely &%*^ed up, because I'm sure I didn't reply to the entire net either time. BTW, I think we should be called Grannies, because, for many of us, a dream life would be rocking on a porch knitting and listening to DMB.Top Permalink
Hey now, version of "Send Me on my Way" last night on Conan. They looked relaxed but at the same time psyched to be on TV. So which late night show show will be the first to put the DMB on, and what do you think they'd play? Brian ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________Top Permalink