Here it is. The Bayou is an 18+ and the last time I went to see Dave it was $8 but it might be a little higher now. I might be going but in case I can't make it, can someone please make a tape for me. I can provide the tape if necessary. If I'm there I'll be wearing a JMU hat and by myself so if you see a lonely looking guy in the front row, stop and keep me some company.Top Permalink
Hey folks. I was just thinking that there must be a lot of recent subscribers out there with no FAQ or lyrics file. I was wondering if those could be reposted? Have additions been made? -Ben ----Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Let's get the show on the road.----Top Permalink
Hey all! been said, but check out the top-ten alternative (college) in Rolling Stone. The Dave Matthews Band-Remember 2 Things is #6 !!!! Ahead of James and Cracker Ha! Scary......yet exciting all the same.Top Permalink
In response to Ben Tanen, Derryberry&Alagia is quite popular on this net. There are at least two graduates of Portsmouth Abbey School who subcribe to minarets, the other being Pat Parsons. Anyway D&A have been playing Portsmouth, in Newport, RI, since '91 and lot of my friends and I have become quite good friends with Doug and John. In fact every couple of months John gives my friend Pat Parsons-fellow netter, tapes that he has mastered in the studio. To those in Washington they often play at a bar called Heads. Back to Ben, I see that you have "Southpaw", do you have "Reinvigorating the Wheel" if you do don't you think a great cover would be "Falling" or off "Rutabaga Stew" "Stomping Boots" And off "Southpaw"-Desire or WIthout You or Tell it Like Is all of those would be cool. Sean BerryTop Permalink
Just wanted to make a quick post on a excellent show. The wait was well worth it, because DMB rocked really hard all Set 1 ***** Seek Up (14+ min, jammed every minute of) Tripping Billies Song that Jane Likes Help Myself What would you say? Satellite (some fans held up lighters??!!) True Reflections Set 2 ***** Ants Marching (incredible intro) Minarets (once again Carter rapped in beginning) Typical Situation (intense) Granny Jimi Thing (WOW!) Lover Lay Down (nice surprise) Watchtower (really jammed) Dancing Nancy oops, after satellite was #36, sorry i left that out... well, it was good to meet alot of people from the net, can't wait until thursday. WaylandTop Permalink
Just a note to "second" the suggestion that DMB play the Blue Note in Columbia. This club is one of the finest in the midwest. Many outstanding artists have played there over the years. Big Star held their reunion show there and recorded their album (this also caused some huge problems for the campus radio station but that's another story). I've seen the Violent Femmes and the Blasters there just to name two bands. Columbia is a wonderful town and the Blue Note is a great place to play. The club itself is a converted theatre in the center of town. A much better venue than the location of years before at the end of 9th in a rather ramshackle building. klongTop Permalink
I just heard a rumour that Dave will be putting on a FREE show at Sewanee in a few weeks (the 5ht of March, I believe). This sounds too good to be true. Can anyone confirm this for me? Dave is playing at the Univ. of the South in Sewanee, TN on March 5, however....i heard nothing of it being free. I have to talk to the home office tomorrow anyway so i'll definitely ask. here's keeping our fingers crossed....even though i'm in Vermont and in no way planning on going to TN for Any show..be it free or not. alex CrothersTop Permalink
Hey folks. I was just thinking that there must be a lot of recent subscribers out there with no FAQ or lyrics file. I was wondering if those could be reposted? Have additions been made? -Ben This would probably be a good idea. In the past two weeks there have been nearly fifty new subscribers....as many of us have seen from the subscribe messages sent to minarets instead of listproc. :) It would also give everyone the chance to see what information needs updating along with the songs that still need to be added to the Lyric and Chord files. Also on the agenda is the updating up the Welcome message but, like most things these days it seems, that will have to wait awhile as a result of school and the upcoming WSP shows in the NorthEast. Alex CrothersTop Permalink
Hey all! This is my first post, and what I have to say has probably already been said, but check out the top-ten alternative (college) in Rolling Stone. The Dave Matthews Band-Remember 2 Things is #6 !!!! Ahead of James and Cracker Ha! Scary......yet exciting all the same. Wishing the show tonight wasn't sold out..... Sob, Sob.... YAK }; This is interesting.....DMB considered alternative? I guess college/alternative could stereotype them sufficiently.? On the other hand, I didn't realize DMB was doing this well in the national sense. Isn't making the Rolling Stone chart a pretty big step? I figured this album would only be selling large numbers in Virginia and other southern states. I'm very impressed. I think RCA has got itself a very productive band for the next couyple of years. :) alex CrothersTop Permalink
how do I get back on the digestified list? --Brian DietzTop Permalink
Hey all! This is my first post, and what I have to say has probably already been said, but check out the top-ten alternative (college) in Rolling Stone. The Dave Matthews Band-Remember 2 Things is #6! Ahead of James and Cracker Ha! Scary......yet exciting all the same. Wishing the show tonight wasn't sold out..... Sob, Sob.... YAK }; This is interesting.....DMB considered alternative? I guess college/alternative could stereotype them sufficiently.? On the other hand, I didn't realize DMB was doing this well in the national sense. Isn't making the Rolling Stone chart a pretty big step? I figured this album would only be selling large numbers in Virginia and other southern states. I'm very impressed. I think RCA has got itself a very productive band for the next couyple of years. :) alex Crothers Okay, here's the deal on Rolling Stone. They recently changed their ratings for the college charts. Now, they go to ONE record store, most likely in a college town, and ask them what's hot. So, obviously, it depends on who they ask. Well, the 3/10/94 issues chart comes from . . . Yippeee!!! This is a bloody great store! All in all, we can be excited that DMB got a Rolling Stone mention, but don't get worried that they won't be "OUR" band anymore, blah blah blah. Just to keep it in perspective, the folks in Athens are much more hip to good music than the world at large. Plus, the fact that DMB just played two shows down there might have had something to do with the increased record sales. Right? In any case, I must be able to use this to convince some local stores to carry the disc. --Ben ----Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Let's get the show on the road.----Top Permalink
For those who are interested, the Floodzone show tomorrow night sold out over the weekend form what i've been told. (I'm in!) Anyway, great that DMB is back. See you guys there, I'll be wearing a black hat that says Ashworth. Say hi and buy me 80 beers.Top Permalink
What are DMB ticket prices running. I will be seeing them possibly all three dates in florida. (ahh sunny florida). Do they allow SBD patches there or local bands dates that will be playing near tampa feb 25 - march 10? CraigTop Permalink
Sorry to have to post to the whole net but I am new here and I have a few questions to ask. First of all does DMB have a mailing list that I could get on. Secondly is there an address that I can mail order their new cd from. Last but not least is there any kind soul out there who would be able to copy me a show? all I have to offer is some phish but as always I could send blanks and postage and of course my gratitude. If anyone can help me with these questions email me personally. thanks in advance! mikeTop Permalink
Okay, here's the deal on Rolling Stone. They recently changed their ratings for the college charts. Now, they go to ONE record store, most likely in a college town, and ask them what's hot. So, obviously, it depends on who they ask. Well, the 3/10/94 issues chart comes from . . . WUXTRY RECORDS, ATHENS GA!!! that's a rather strange way of deciding "national" rating for the college charts isn't it? however, i suppose if you take it with a grain of salt the results can be pretty informative/amusing. and Athens is a pretty good place to pick in terms of music since so many bands have come out of that area in the past 10 years. alex crothersTop Permalink
For those who are interested, the Floodzone show tomorrow night sold out over the weekend form what i've been told. (I'm in!) Anyway, great that DMB is back. See you guys there, I'll be wearing a black hat that says Ashworth. Say hi and buy me 80 beers. bill 80 beers?? wow. you'll be screaming Hallowean like noone i've ever seen. :) on another note... could the FZ/Trax shows be coming to an end soon? this seems to be coming ever more apparent as the weekly gigs there turn into monthly. ohh well. i suppose soon we'll have people complaining about how it was in the old days when you could just go down to Trax with some of your friends to see them on a moments notice. (Phish=Nectar's/the Front) :) please take this as it's meant to be taken. alex CrothersTop Permalink
show and I was wondering if anyone can email me with directions of how to get there from Richmond, VA. Also does anyone out there have any idea about the policies that Sweetbriar is going to have about having students from other schools there. Also are tickets going to be available at the door? Hope someone can help me out....and looking forward to seeing you all out at the Floodzone tomorrow night! emily c conjuraem@urvax.urich.eduTop Permalink
This is my first post, I'd like to know who the Keyboard player is on my 12/31/92 DMB tape and if he was a member of the band or just a guest. Also, are there any setlist files anywhere? Does anyone have the Tim Reynolds CD? If so, how is it and do any of the band members appear on it? ---------------------------------------------- Delivered by the Dalton Internet GatewayTop Permalink
This is my first post, I'd like to know who the Keyboard player is on my 12/31/92 DMB tape and if he was a member of the band or just a guest. Also, are there any setlist files anywhere? Does anyone have the Tim Reynolds CD? If so, how is it and do any of the band members appear on it? ---------------------------------------------- Delivered by the Dalton Internet Gateway In response to your question about Tim Reynolds, he has two recordings out. First, with his band TR3, is Shifting Currents. I don't believe any of DMB performs on this disk. It is a great album though (all instrumental). Tim has also released a solo album (just him on the ole acoustic guitar). The last time I talked to Tim, he had a couple of copies of an old TR3 tape that they made in the late 1980s (gosh, that seems so long ago). I am suffering from a "lack of Virginia music" up here in Maine. I was lucky to catch Tim Reynolds playing with Greg Howard at a local bar before I left my hometown, balmy Blacksburg, VA. I hope Dave and the boys make it up to Boston (at least). I was very happy when I caught them playing at the Paradise with ARU last fall.Top Permalink
the ride, guys), Rick and Gregg. It was also a sweet show and I'm glad I taped it. However, by accident I left with one more set of cables than I came with. I thought I had come with two, though I had only brought one. So if anyone is missing a red/white in/out cable write to me and I'd be glad to arrange for their return to you. I truly apologize. Trax last night who goes to Sweetbriar and is going to the show and she said she's pretty sure it's sold out. Too bad for those willing to have made the trip. Take care, DanTop Permalink
that's a rather strange way of deciding "national" rating for the college charts isn't it? however, i suppose if you take it with a grain of salt the results can be pretty informative/amusing. new chart system allows many different people to hear about different, regional bands. Maybe the next time DMB plays somewhere, someone will check them out because they recognized the name from RS. On the other hand, it also allows the whole country to sort of guage what other people are listening to. And that's cool too. I wonder if we can write to RS and petition them to focus on Plan 9 (is that what it's called?) in Charlottesville. THAT would be enlightening. alex crothers -BEN ----Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Let's get the show on the road.----Top Permalink
in the last digest, alex asked if the trax and floodzone shows it all came to an end on dec 8th. i was at last night's show, and it was not "oh, dave's playing at trax again," it was "fuck yeah, dave's playing a concert in c-ville tuesday night...did you get tickets?" i would even venture to say the crowd was a little different than it used to be. there were a whole herd of teenagers crowding the stage by 9 (for a show that began at 10:45). usually at nine, i'm up front and center, analyzing the setup. i payed NINE DOLLARS to get in, and i'm personally looking forward to the day i may have to pay $20. the dave matthews band is no longer a c-ville local band. trust me, they are hitting big, and you better get used to it. (i'm putting on some asbestos now;) belong to from good homes. and i'll agree, they're no dmb, but they are damn good. personally, i liked them more than god street wine, who i saw a week later. 1)minarets rap? i didn't hear it, wayland, and you had me by the ====================================================================== rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu jmu box 5388 willing to tell you anything you harrisonburg va 22807 ever wanted to know about the dave (703) 568-4945 disjunct lyrics). ********************************************************************** "It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense." ======================================================================Top Permalink
at the advice of several people, i'm gonna go ahead and post the faq again. it's big, so be warned. (not as big as phish.faq, mind you). it hasn't changed much at all since the last posting, but it does seem like a good idea. GO INTO IT VERY SOON. dozens of people have said, "oh, i know the words to best, i'll do it for you" but nobody has done it yet. i haven't had time to do it, and i usually devote myself to picking out lyrics to songs i know how to play, anyway. boy, this net is jumpin' these days, ain't it... ====================================================================== rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu jmu box 5388 willing to tell you anything you harrisonburg va 22807 ever wanted to know about the dave (703) 568-4945 disjunct lyrics). ********************************************************************** "It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense." ======================================================================Top Permalink
Best of What's Around Hey my friend it seems your eyes are troubled Care to share your times with me Would you say you're feeling low And so a good idea would be to get it off your mind See you and me have a better time than most can dream Better than the best And so we pull on through Whatever tears at us Whatever holds us down And if nothing can be done We make the best of what's around Turns out not well But who you with that [ ] [ ] And hurts not much when you're around When you're around And if you hold on tight To what you think is your thing You may find you're missing all the rest Cheer on up into the light surprised Her arms are opened Her mind's eye Seeing things from a better side than most can dream On a clearer road And you can say she's safe Whatever tears at her Whatever holds her down ANd if nothing can be done She makes the best of what's around Turns out not well but what you think that [ ] [ ] And hurts not much when you're around When you're around Hey la, oh, oh... The best of what's around We have been worried We have been troubled But always make the best of what's around Sometimes I find myself feeling low But I'll lean back and smile Make the best of what's around. ********************************************************** This is the best I can do right now. I based the lyrics mainly on 2/17/92 FZ and 4/22/93 DM and TR. The "[ ]" I'm hoping to find out tomorrow when I see John Alagia who's going to be playing w/ Doug here at the Pub tomorrow night. Hope this helps. Good night, Jamie CogbillTop Permalink
anything that a minority would promote....RS has become to MTV oriented. I have a subscription as a gift, but I can not stand a lot of their views....They may do a review of the album in the next few weeks if they think that DMB will become a fad, which it will. I can not believe they have not mentioned Phish, this is just what RS is all about...image. It is now hip to be weird, or not hip, and RS thinks of itself as being hip. I wish they could take the balls to support something good that has not yet been supported by masses. They are on no edge. The only gutsy thing they have covered was Blues Traveler about a year or two ago. Enlighten us, show us something we can not see everyday. I admit (so I wont get railed) RS has its good articles but none pertaining to music. Any Comments ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ no one making no commitments to anybody but themselves ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Top Permalink
This lyrics file has been compiled by Rick Thompson, stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu, Gregg Carrier, stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu, and Brett Horton, stu_behorton@vax1.acs.jmu.edu. All of these lyrics are based on our own judgement and are completely open for interpretation. Any lyrics contained within parantheses are particularly open for judgement. Please direct all questions and comments about this file to Rick. 3 new songs in this update. % == new since last mailing. @ == updated since last mailing. * == lyrics not available yet. @Blue Water Baboon Farm %Cry Freedom %Satellite (After Her) %What Would You Say from the album "Remember Two Things" as they appear in the liner notes. if you would like these lyrics, as well, just let me know. ===================================================================== (quick lay and goodbye, just for tonight, what you will... oh well here we are by this fireside and the snow outside keep you and me locked up for tonight i mean no harm here but while we're stuck why not get stuck inside each other no, no baby, i know we're friends but tonight, oh god, let's be lovers roll around the bedside until daylight won't leave, won't leave away (man only kind) i'll do all this tonight have another glass or sip of wine and your eyes lead me to find and we'll raise tomorrow go back to being friends tomorrow, go back to being friends not no lovers you go back to your man i go back to my wife back to our lives, separate from each other and when you see me, when i see you we'll pretend we do not know one time we two were lovers just for the night until daylight come and strip us away go just tonight oh come down, lay by my side ( ) ( ) ( ) tomorrow, go back to being friends tomorrow, go back to being friends yeah ( ) romance all again i'll need just tonight in your eyes i see and taste your lips tonight with the taste of love on fingers i might be all the way ( ) ( ) again and we'll be playful roller-coaster friends and tomorrow we'll say goodbye say goodbye say goodbye say goodbye ============================================================================ Blue Water walking back from the river's edge reach my hands to cup the sky while on my arms a bitter blue turn to red and the ( ) grew the river taste me i'm so much more than I have ever been oh, oh, oh, oh take this my arms take this my eyes take this my mouth and all it says to me complete the truth oh, oh, oh, oh...yeah (Leroi's sax) walking back from the river's edge reach my hands to cup the sky while on my arms a bitter blue turn to red and the ( ) grew the river taste me I'm so much more than I have ever been oh, oh, oh (Boyd's psychadelic fiddle exit) ============================================================================= Cry Freedom how can i turn away brother sister go dancing through my head human as to human the future is no place to place your better days cry freedom cry from a crowd ten thousand wide (hopelessly hope) that this crowd will not subside let this flag burn to dust and in you our filled design is raised while you wait head and hands hands in prayer and fall into a dreamless sleep again and you wait and hands and feet are all allied but wall between divide us hands and feet are all allied but gold between divided souls slip away there was a window and by it stood a meadow in which he could see himself he thought of something something he had never had but hoped would come had gone cry freedom cry from a crowd ten thousand wide while you wait hands and feet are all allied but gold between divide us hands and feet are allied but walls between divided soul slip away in this room stood a little child and in this room this little child he would remain until someone might decide to dance this little child across this into a cold dark space where she might never trace away across this crooked mile across this crooked page cry freedom cry from deep inside where we are all confined and you wait there how can i turn away brother sister go dancing through my head human as to human the future is no place to place your better days hands and feet are all allied but gold between divide us hands and feet are all allied but worlds between divide us hands and feet are all allied but faith between divide us hands and feet are all allied but walls between divide us hands and feet save the life hear what i say hear what i say how can i turn away brother sister go dancing through my head human as to human the future is no place to place your better days ============================================================================= Dancing Nancies could i have been a parking lot attendent could i have been your little sister could i have been lost somewhere in paris could i have been the king of diarhhea {11-9-93} he stands touches his hair, his shoes untied tongue gaping stare could i have been a magnet for money could i have been anyone other than me twenty three and so tired of life such a shame to throw it all away the images grow darker still could i have been anyone other than me and then i look up at the sky how my mouth is open wide lick and taste what's the use in a worrying what's the use in a hurrying turn, turn we almost become dizzy i am who i am who i am who am i requessting some enlightenment could there have been anyone other than me and then i'll sing and dance i'll play for you tonight the thrill of it all well dark clouds may hang on me sometimes but i'll work it out and then i'll look up at the sky how my mouth is open wide lick and taste what's the use in a worrying what's the use in a hurrying turn, turn we almost become dizzy falling out of a world of lies? could i have been dancing nancy could i have been dancing nancy could i have been any one other than me and then i'll sing and dance la la la hey la la la hey la la la sing and dance la la la hey la la la sing and dance i'll play for you tonight the thrill of it all dark clouds may hang on me sometimes but i'll work it out and then i'll look up at the sky how my mouth is open wide lick and taste what's the use in a worrying what's the use in a hurrying turn, turn we almost become dizzy, almost become dizzy ============================================================================= hello, how are ya doing today i hope i find you feeling healthy i'm so glad our paths crossed this time today on our way into the night it's love here we go, dance around each other screaming baby i love you well i love more than life why when i approach my hearts here upon my sleeve you tell me your hearts into a thousand pieces and i say stop oldie old & wise, with clouded eyes, you can see what i can't i blindly throw my faith into the face of the next good thing that comes my way so here we are all of us stand around leaning heavy on each other still we wonder hey what is it lies behind staring eyes of one another i think it's love, treats us well eyes(from behind a well) baby our love is, well our love is pure and fine why, when i approach my hearts here upon my sleeve you tell me your hearts into a thousand peices and i say stop oldie old & wise, with clouded eyes, you can see what i can't i blindly throw my faith into the face of the next pretty girl that comes my way it's love, {whatever dave feels like singing} baby, our love is, well our love is pure and fine why, when i approach, the tears are falling rain you tell me, your hearts into a thousand peices love... baby... love... baby... ============================================================================= Help Myself a hungry boy in a town of one hundred more the food is out the door make me want to help myself help my-- oh river's edge pouring from the side of his head a bullet through the brain make him feel different today oh colder grow the days oh much faster pass the years by 'til we die a treasure not my own i take it, took it, nobody will notice well that suits me well big house, big yard, help myself, help myself help myself every once in a while to help the helpless comes into style the mercy mercy mile 1-800-help myself help myself help myself oh colder grow the days oh much faster pass the years by oh colder grow the days oh much faster pass the years by 'til we die summers here we're swimming in the river summer rain burns holes in flowers dangerous hours dangerous hours dangerous hours every now and then tv preacher tell of heaven redemption for a penny a soul 1-800 help yourself help yourself help yourself summer's here we're swimming in the river summer rain come down come down come down come down yeah summer's here we're dancing in the daisies summer rain burns holes in flowers dangerous hours dangerous hours dangerous hours ============================================================================= Jimi Thing lately i've been feeling low a remedy is what i'm seeking so i take a taste of what's below come away to something better what i want is what i've not got and what i need is all around me reaching, searching, never stop if you could keep me floating just for a while you 'til i get to the end of this (tunnel i'm lovin') if you could keep me floating just for a while you to i get back to you (adlib) (adlib) i'd like to show you what's inside but i sure don't care if you do or don't like it but ok, i'm strewn all about 'cause sometimes i walk there, yes god knows, sometimes i take a bus there still don't care, i still don't care (marie, there's a feeling) day is gone i'm on my back staring up at the ceiling so i sit back, relax blows my mind, make feel better for a while but what i want is what i've not got and what i need is all around me reaching searching never stop if you could keep me floating just for a while you 'til i get back through this (tunnel i'm lovin') if you could keep me floating just for a while you to i get back to you (adlib) (adlib) i'd like to show you what's inside but i said i don't care if you do or don't like it but ok, i'm strewn all about 'cause sometimes i walk there yes god knows sometimes i take a bus there still don't care, i still don't care (marie, there's a feeling) lately i've been feeling low a remedy, a remedy is what i'm seeking so i take a taste of what's below come away..... if you could keep me floating just for a while you 'til i get back through this (tunnel i'm lovin') if you could keep me floating just for a while you to i get back to you (adlib) (adlib) i'd like to show you what's inside but i sure i don't care if you do or don't like it but ok, i'm strewn all about 'cause sometimes i walk there yes god knows sometimes i take a bus there still don't care, i still don't care marie, there's a feeling {Leroi's orgasmic sax solo....} ============================================================================= Lie In Our Graves when i step into the room my arms open wide when i step into the room my eyes searching 'round would you not like to be sitting on top of the world with your legs hanging free would you not like to be OK, OK, OK when we're walking by the water splish splash me and you taking a bath when we're walking by the water come to my toes to my ankles to my head to my soul then i'm blown away {bridge} when we're walking by the water splish splash me and you taking a bath when we're walking by the water come to my toes to my ankles to my head to my soul then i'm blown away i can't believe that we would lie in graves wondering if we had spent our living days well i can't believe that we would lie in graves wondering what we might of been i can't believe that we would lie in graves wondering if we had spent our living days well i can't believe that we would lie in graves wondering what we might of been would you not like to be would you not like to be i can't believe that you would not like to be would you not like to be ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, don't dance away ========================================================================= Lover Lay Down spend some time and dance in my hands slip into my lovers'hands kiss me, won't you kiss me now? and speak (i would) inside your mouth don't be austere and shy for in no way it's no big surprise that i will wait for you i will wait for no one but you oh please lover lay down spend this time with me together share this smile lover lay down walk with me, walk with you hold my hands (your hand) so much we have dreamed but we were so much younger how to explain that we are stronger? and we have reasons we like to deny let's toss them away see when we will lay down love (satiately) by my lover's side together share this smile eachother's tears we cry together share this smile lover lay down oh please oh please lover lay down oh please lover lay down and you will-lover lay down cause it's over-lover lay down say love, say love, say love, say love, say love oh, oh don't go away could i love you, could you love me could i love you, could you love me could i love you, could you love me could i love you, could you love me darling it's all the same... all the same, all the same, all the same... but do we dance away? chasin me all around leadin me all around in circles chasin me all around leadin me all around in circles say yeah yeah yeah ========================================================================= Pay For What You Get work ourselves fingers the bone suck the marrow drain my soul pay your dues and debts pay your respects everybody tells you you pay for what you get you pay for what you get everybody asks me how she's doing has she really lost her mind i say "i couldn't tell you i've lost mine" words words words have you heard that the bird in hand is much better than any number free to wander fly away stay you pay for what you get you pay for what you get everybody asks me how she's doing is she really all she says i say "i couldn't tell you i'm OK" we tend to run away from the difficult days we tend to run away from the difficult days surprise surprise you pay for what you get you pay for what you get everybody asks me how she's doing since she went away i say "i couldn't tell you i'm OK" pay for what you get pay for what you get oh boy pay for what you get pay for what you get ============================================================================= Satellite (After Her) {satellite when first written} sun will shine no matter what i do sun shines bright now with you what a wonderful thing for you to do moon shine bright reflections in your eyes a finer place he could not find winter's cold spring erases and the calm away by the storm is chasen everything good needs replacing hope all these changes happen with you in my life never before have i lover so adored her eyes her hair everything she says my delight can tickle me inside touch my heart touch my mind no matter what's inside i'll give to her no need to satisfy my hunger lost in her and while i spend these hours five senses reading with biggest steps i'm running after her i will run winter's cold spring erases and the calm away by the storm is chasen everything good needs replacing hope all these changes happen with you sun will shine no matter what i do sun shines bright now with you touch my heart touch me through no matter what's inside i'll give to her no need to satisfy my hunger lost in her and while i spend these hours five senses reading with biggest steps i'm running after her i will run after her after her after her ========================================================================= So Much to Say and my hell is the closet i'm stuck inside i can't see the light and my heaven is a nice house in the sky got central heating and i'm alright yeah yeah yeah can't see the light keep it locked up inside don't talk about it t-t-talk about the weather hey hey hey yeah yeah yeah can't see the light open up my head and let me out little baby 'cause here we have been standing for a long long time treadin' trodden trails for a long long time and my hell is the closet i'm stuck inside i can't see the light and my heaven is a nice house in the sky got central heating and i'm alright 'cause here we have been standing for a long long time treadin' trodden trails for a long long time i find sometimes it's easy to be myself sometimes i find better to be somebody else i see you young and soft little baby little feet little hands little feet little baby one year of crying and the words creep up inside creep into mind yeah so much to say, so much to say, so much to say, so much to say so much to say, so much to say, so much to say, so much to say 'cause here we have been standing for a long long time treadin' trodden trails for a long long time i find sometimes it's easy to be myself sometimes i find better to be somebody else so much to say, so much to say, so much to say, so much to say so much to say, so much to say, so much to say, so much to say so much to say, so much to say, so much to say, so much to say so much to say, so much to say, so much to say, so much to say open up my head and let me out little baby =============================================================================== Spotlight in the spotlight life is so peachy yeah, yeah, yeah wouldn't you like to retire with a million a million beating hearts behind brick and cold steel piping fighting for the top fighting for the room to breathe bench parks sleepers lie cold blanket bedless babies here this must stop i cannot stay damn you, big city, black city rising up around me, steal my soul away big city, black city rise and take me over, steal my soul away but all out in this world the night it crawls it falls much harder than i recall out in this world a siren is calling from every corner in the spotlight life is so peachy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah unless you are in the spotlight for a reason, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah caught for stealing somebody's riches, no, no, no, no wouldn't you like to retire with a million bucks yeah came here from a small town i see my dreams here in the big city sour dissapointment i cannot stay damn you, big city, black city rising up around me, steal my soul away big city, black city rise and take me over, steal my soul away but all out in this world the night it crawls it falls much harder than i recall out in this world a siren is calling from every corner in the spotlight life is so peachy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah all eyes are in the spotlight for a reason, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah caught for stealing somebody's riches, no, no, no, no wouldn't you like to retire with a million bucks yeah yeah.... yeah.... yeah.... yeah.... =============================================================================== True Reflections when you look into a mirror do you like what's looking at you now that you've seen your true reflections what on earth are you gonna do (ch) remember the time you hung out with the boys now remember the things you used to say i thought by now you'd be the president but after all that was yesterday you've had time to go out in the world now but you chose to run away people ask you what your doin' now you don't even know what to say (ch x 2) you think life is like a movie where it all works out in the end i think life is like a dessert where does it go where does it begin when you look into a mirror do you like what's looking at you now that you've seen your true reflections what on earth are you gonna do (ch x 2) find some inspiration {inspiration} it's down deep inside of you (repeat as many times as necessary) ======================================================================== Typical Situation (Bayou, June 26, 1993) it all comes down to nothing it all comes down to nothing it all comes down to nothing it all comes down to nothing ten fingers counting, we have each nine planets around the sun repeat eight ball, the last of you triumphant be seven oceans pummel the shores of the sea it's a typical situation in these typical times too many choices it's a typical situation in these typical times too many choices (CH) six senses feeling five around a self four seasons turn on and turn off i can see three corners from this corner two's the perfect number, but one oh... it all comes down to nothing it's a typical situation in these typical times too many choices it's a typical situation in these typical times too many choices we can't do a thing about it too many choices it's a typical situation in these typical times too many choices it's a typical situation in these typical times too many choices it's a typical situation in these typical times too many choices we can't do a thing about it too many choices it's a typical situation in these typical times too many choices. ============================================================================ Warehouse (9-7-93, 3-23-93, 11-17-92 ==any further thoughts on this song (make this mind) don't throw away your playful beginnings you and i will fumble around in your touches and be sure to leave all the lights on so you can see the black cats changing colors well you can walk under the ladder and swim as the tide turns you around and around what i've found they come and bond in a million slip into the crowds this question i found in a gap in the sidewalk keep all your sights on the black cats changing colors and you can walk under the ladder and swim as the tide turns you around and around life goes on and i'll turn on the tv spot in the middle static for you, statistical be it, sooner fade away, fade away but this i am, it seems so good hard to believe i'm into it, smell touch and feel how could this rhythm ever quit, bags packed on a plane (oh later on) shut up, i'm thinking i had a clue now it's gone forever sitting over these bones you can redo whatever your meaning to keep all your sights on the black cat is changing colors it's not the colors that matter 'cause they all fade away life goes on and i'll turn on the tv spot in the middle satic for you, statistical be it, sooner fade away, fade away but this i am, it seems so good hard to believe i'm into warehouses now nothing at all inside of, the walls and halls have disappeared, they have disappeared well no i'd love to (stay) well no i'd love to (stay) well no i'd love to (stay) well no i'd love to (stay) in the warehouse... in the warehouse... in the warehouse... in the warehouse... that's my blood down there that's my blood down there that's my blood down there that's my blood down there let's go away, go away... ============================================================================ What Would You Say (March 27, 93) up and down the puppy's hair fleas and ticks jump everywhere 'cause of original sin down the hill fell jack and jill and you can tumbling after 'cause of original sin rip away the tears and drink a whole to happy years and you may find a lifetime's passed you by what would you say; don't drop the big one if you were a monkey on a string; don't cut my lifeline if you were a doggy on a chain; don't bite the mailman what would you say? i was there when the bear ate his hand and thought it was candy, everyone goes in the end knock knock on the door who's it for there's nobody in here, look in the mirror my freind i don't understand the cause and cannot speak for all of us (morning lies the) lifetime's passed me by what would you say; don't drop the big one if you were a monkey on a string; don't cut my lifeline if you were a doggy on a chain; don't bite the mailman what would you say? every dog has it's day, every day has it's way of being forgotton mom it's my birthday (would you say) what would you say what would you say hey what could you say what would you say ( falling on my face if i'm lucky lately trying to take it home hey lee, falling on my face if i'm lucky yes tangled 'round my feet lovely leave it for me heavy would you maybe i better take it home ============================================================================ **************************************************************************** ============================================================================ Brett Horton (Dancing Nancies) Claire Clifford (qlandg, Lover) Keller Foster (Satellite) Shawn Peters Jamie Cogbill (Blue Water, Typical Situation) Sean Berry (Satellite (After Her), Cry Freedom) THIS IS THE END OF THE DAVE MATTHEWS BAND LYRICS 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Just got back from the DMB WSP show at the Ritz in Raleigh. I would like to apoligize for a couple songs that I could not figure out. DMB carter--boyd--leroi--steffan--dave--ants marching tripping billies satellite what would you say minarets typical situation jimi thing ??? Dave starts by saying "This is a song about love......" dancing nancies halloween WSP Fishwater Pleas ??Possible new song or I am a dumb ass?? Weight of the world Space Wrangler (sick jam at the end Henry Parsons Holden Oversoul-- Wonderin' ???Could be called dying??? hatfield pickin' up the pieces *take out-- *****with Boyd!!!!!!!! *porch song *driving song--storm watch--driving song *love tractor ----E----- dream song pilgrims Capricorn who was preventing taping not the band, as he stuck his DAT in a small drawer. He sayed that the taping was stopped because the number of tapers was getting two large, there were too many microphones and the sound was getting messed up from so many tapers. His response to taping seats, we are not going to fuck with that. He said however they may remix some of their tapes and issue them. He also said that there would be no more taping for the rest of this tour, however he did not know about future tours. I also have a friend who taped Dave, and if the tapes come out well I will make them available.Top Permalink
after a nice 4 1/2 hour drive. i watched the sunset last night, the moonfall about an hour ago, and now the sun is rising. who would believe i purposely put myself in that position? to play halloween, which they did. the 'song about love' that merc mentioned was actually #36. also, about the taping deal... jeff at the soundboard, and leroi, bothtold me that wp was planning on playing new songs that they didn't want leaked. oh well... sometimes life sucks.... dwellers). it was huge, smoky, sweaty, hot... blah blah blah... like rick said, i miss the smaller shows where you could go in early and chat with the band without being mauled by security. i guess it's all up to reminiscing now... i'm off to bed... i'm delerious...clare emilyTop Permalink
To whomever said Rolling Stone does not support anything that isn't big, I agree for the most part, but apparently their new Alternative Chart does just that. Everyone, don't make too big a deal out of this chart thing. IT IS THE LIST FROM A SINGLE STORE IN ATHENS, GA. Athens is very open minded about music, has a great scene, and because of it's proximity to DMB's former "home-base" would have been a host to DMB shows a long time ago. This does not mean that the band is getting big. It doesn't even mean that they are going to. (Although from the first time I heard them, I thought they would be huge.) I hope that they become big at a good pace and not because of a sudden rush of fame brought on by a catchy single (which could happen...they have very catchy singles...) The point about these single-store record charts is that at any given store may have anyone from Lou Reed to some local band with a self-produced CD5 at number one. That way, readers see not what the majority is listening to, but what people in _ONE TOWN_ are buying. And, BTW, Dave isn't that big (yet). I think he falls into the local hero scene far more than a widely known phenomenon. DMB isn't what people are listening to everywhere (yet ;) ************ What would you do if I ate your Daddy's shoes? ****************** * Gregg Carrier (aka Uncle Zany, the guy in the floppy green hat) * * JMU Box 1734 stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu * * Harrisonburg, VA 22807 (703) JMU-KIND * *********** What would you say if it was naturally for you? ******************Top Permalink
This is my first post, I'd like to know who the Keyboard player is on my 12/31/92 DMB tape and if he was a member of the band or just a guest. Also, are there any setlist files anywhere? Does anyone have the Tim Reynolds CD? If so, how is it and do any of the band members appear on it? ---------------------------------------------- Delivered by the Dalton Internet Gateway I'm assuming the keyboard player on that tape is Peter Greiser althoguh i've never heard that tape. However i could be totally off. It could just be a keyboard sitting in with them for the NYE '92 show because i'm not quite sure exactly when Peter 'officially' left the band. Did this information ever make it into the FAQ? or could someone answer this question for Ian (and for me) who knows? Thanks alex CrothersTop Permalink
"Turns out not where but who you're with that really matters and hurts not much when you're around"Top Permalink
Hey y'all, This net has really picked up all of a sudden.Top Permalink
This is my first post, I'd like to know who the Keyboard player is on my 12/31/92 DMB tape and if he was a member of the band or just a guest. Also, are there any setlist files anywhere? Does anyone have the Tim Reynolds CD? If so, how is it and do any of the band members appear on it? ---------------------------------------------- Delivered by the Dalton Internet Gateway I'm assuming the keyboard player on that tape is Peter Greiser althoguh i've never heard that tape. However i could be totally off. It could just be a keyboard sitting in with them for the NYE '92 show because i'm not quite sure exactly when Peter 'officially' left the band. Did this information ever make it into the FAQ? or could someone answer this question for Ian (and for me) who knows? Thanks alex Crothers Yes, it was Peter. I saw the show and also made one of the DATs of the show. He left the band sometime in March or April of 1994.Top Permalink
Highway I've found They call me one in a million slipping to the ground (The question he found in the sidewalk is beside On the plane, plane to heaven. I'll play for you tonight, and they'll love it all (not thrill of it all) Oh river red Pouring from the side of his head (blood is red) A treasure not my own I take it, took it, nobody will know This wealth it suits me well Day is gone I'm on my back, staring up at the ceiling So I take a drink sit back and relax, SMOKE my mind... I don't understand at best and cannot speak for all the rest Drink a HOPE to happy years. Also, nice meeting everyone at Trax the other night...Top Permalink
About the rap during Minarets...In Athens 02/05/94 Carter raps in the background during Minarets. The reason that you were unable to hear him is that his voice is almost a wisper which can only be heard through his mike...In other words, it can only be heard on the recording...Trust me I did'nt hear it while I was at the show either. Also, I am pretty sure that I have that mystery ENCORE on my soundcheck tape from 02/05/94...Can anyone describe this song for me?...Thanks holrn@rhodes.eduTop Permalink
I deleated digest 99 by accident and I need the lyrics. Any one can send it to my address jtnietha@vax1.acs.jmu.edu.--ThanksTop Permalink
MTV is so politically oriented it's crazy..... Just sit down and watch it for 5 mins. and see how many different views they try to pump into you.Top Permalink
Sorry to have to post to the whole net but I am new here and I have a few questions to ask. First of all does DMB have a mailing list that I could get on. Secondly is there an address that I can mail order their new cd from. Last but not least is there any kind soul out there who would be able to copy me a show? all I have to offer is some phish but as always I could send blanks and postage and of course my gratitude. If anyone can help me with these questions email me personally. thanks in advance! mike Sorry this had taken me so long to get to but...things have been tremendously busily..both here (in Vermont) and one minarets. The CD can also be ordered Charlottesville, VA at this address or phone #. 22903 i'm not sure if the mailing list is much more than a flyer with dates on it since i've never seen one and really didn't even know one existed (i just added my name today!). But if that's the case then there's almost no point in wasting the time and paper and money needed to mail it to people on the net since we get the dates alot faster than those flyers. :) hope this helps some people out. alex CrothersTop Permalink
does anyone know when dmb is going to be in florida?? i have spring break next week...any shows between 25 feb to 4 mar?? thanks.Top Permalink
Well, another night, another great show! Set 1 ****** Seek Up Tripping Billies Lie in our Graves Song that Jane Likes Help Myself What Would YOu Say? #36 True Reflections Set 2 ****** Recently Minarets (carter rapped again) Typical Situation Satellite Jimi Thing Two Step (wow!) Dancing Nancy Tripping Billies was excellent, very nice to hear recently, minarets was best i have ever heard, once again jimi thing jammed hard, and two step was HOT!!! Hung out with the guys before the show, they were glad to be back in richmond! Look for me tonight at Sweetbriar by the soundboard- WaylandTop Permalink
Yes, it was Peter. I saw the show and also made one of the DATs of the show. He left the band sometime in March or April of 1994. I didn't want to repost the whole message as it has grown rather long in its development however the thread was about DMB's former keyboardist Peter Greiser. This discussion floated about earlier on minarets but i'm not sure if any conclusion ever came about. As for the above, i'll assume whoever (sorry i deleted the name) sent this meant he left in March or April of 1993 not 1994. :) alex CrothersTop Permalink
As for the above, i'll assume whoever (sorry i deleted the name) sent this meant he left in March or April of 1993 not 1994. :) Well the above is now deleted but I think Peter left a bit earlier than that. Anyone from JMU want to answer this? alex Crothers --BEN ----Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Let's get the show on the road.----Top Permalink
Hey, let's not get too excited!, the "80 beers" comment was all in jest and one of those college catch phrases that we all know and love. :) But on a more interesting note (and I hope no one's mentioned this already) I opened Style magazine the other day right to a half-page DMB article. As if this wasn't great enough, the second column was devoted almost entirely to..........THIS NET! Crothers, were you interviewed about it? The article covered the band very well, and even mentioned Dave's sister's death and his background. I never thought I'd soon be blocking out part of my day to read minarets, etc., but i like it.Top Permalink
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Hello minaret netters! First, let me apologize for the post that read My computer screwed up, my apologies to wasting bandwith! Next, i would like to address some questions and provide some I am concert chairman at the University of Richmond, and i am happy to I will post ticket prices and time of show. I know this doesn't have DMB content but it is free publicity. If you have any questions email me at (pondwayla@urvax.urich.edu) Enjoy the shows in your area! WaylandTop Permalink
Hey, et has picked up lately, wait until Dave opens for Phish!! They're totally diff erent and all, but it seems that once Phish decides they like something, it's t he talk of the .net-(phish, that is).Top Permalink
oops!, hrough the 10? I'll be in North Carolina and Florida, so please say somewhere a roung there!Top Permalink
oops!, I forgot to ask in my last post-where will dave be playing from March 6 t hrough the 10? I'll be in North Carolina and Florida, so please say somewhere a roung there! Sun March 6-no show Mon March 7- Benchwarmer's Lawrence KA Tues March 8- Fox Boulder CO Wed March 9- Tang Fort Collins, CO Thurs March 10- Fox alex CrothersTop Permalink
But on a more interesting note (and I hope no one's mentioned this already) I opened Style magazine the other day right to a half-page DMB article. As if this wasn't great enough, the second column was devoted almost entirely to..........THIS NET! Crothers, were you interviewed about it? The article covered the band very well, and even mentioned Dave's sister's death and his background. bill (the 80 beers guy) no, i was never interviewed, called, or anything. interesting. what type of magazine is Style? i'd like to see this article. things sure are beginning to move along rather quickly. first it was RollingStone, then is was Style. next it's RFK. :) alexTop Permalink
Well, this was quite an interesting show that was played at Sweetbriar College. Set 1 ****** Seek Up Song that Jane Likes Satellite Lie in Our Graves Dancing Nancies #36 True Reflections Tripping Billies Set 2 ***** Pay for what you get (dave and carter only) So Much To Say Exodus(WOW!!!!!) Jimi Thing What Would You Say? Recently Minarets Typical Situation The second set was one of the best overall sets i have ever heard. The first three songs jammed and Exodus was played for the first time in a long while. The band had fun at this show, that was played in a Dining Hall and all the students loved the band. WaylandTop Permalink
On the lyrics file, there was something like marie i'm feeling where i've always heard, bereaved as i'm feeling. Does the whole band play Exodus. I don't think i've ever heard, although over the summer Dave played Redemption Song by himself.Top Permalink
in an effort to try and clear things up with peter, this is everything i know. peter greiser is from new york and jammed with dmb in it's early days, but from everything i've heard, he decided that he simply didn't want to be with the band anymore. the best reasoning i've found is just that it was a personal decision of peter's to go back to new york. his last show with the band at TRAX was 3-23-93, and i don't know if he played any other shows that week. for some reason, official sources (the band and beyond) are somewhat flighty on the subject, but gregg found out from dave that it's just what peter wanted to do. ====================================================================== rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu jmu box 5388 willing to tell you anything you harrisonburg va 22807 ever wanted to know about the dave (703) 568-4945 disjunct lyrics). ********************************************************************** "It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense." ======================================================================Top Permalink
For all of you Midwest netters who were hoping to see Dave on Fri, Mar 18 in Chicago, but also had already bought Dead tickets for that night -- never fear, you can go to both. The Dead (at Rosemont) is scheduled to come on at 7:30, meaning they'll finish up around 10:30, then a 30-45 min. drive to Schubas in time to see Dave. He's scheduled to come on at 10, but Coran called the bar and convinced them to push back the time to about 11. (Coran, DMB's manager, being both a Deadhead and a Davehead scheduled DMB in Chicago and New York to coincide with Dead apperances in both towns -- probably not coincidentally. He plans on making the two shows on Fri. Mar 18.) Anyone else who is going to try to do this? What a night of music!Š For both Dave shows at Schubas (MAr 18 and 19) the only advanced ticket sales ar thru Ticketmaster. Tickets can be purchased the night of the show for $7, but who wants to risk the show selling out first? (The place only holds 120 -- should be a sweet place to see Dave -- much better than the Cubby Bear). BobTop Permalink
Well it was another exhilirating experience tonight. It was great to meet Jason, Clare, Blake, Rob and Kwon once again. Sorry Clare, no Lover, but you gotta give em credit for dat Jimi Tang. The first set was pretty much a Remember two Things set, but the second set more than made up for it. The first set was actually really short and Dave seemed to be a little tired or something, but something happened backstage in that 45 minute set break that brought the band back in more than full force. Oh yeah hello to my other netter friends that I attended the show with Rich, Brian and Kenny...the JMU cheering section. Yeehoo! Out of breath in Gtown, Jamie CogbillTop Permalink
Does anyone out there have any really excellent January 94 Dave that they would like to trade. It would be mighty appreciated and I've got plenty to trade. Please E-mail me.Top Permalink
If anyone knows which venue DMB is playing Monday (28th), please pass it on to me. Where? When? Phone #? thanks, Tilden White tilden@mickey.eng.gulfaero.comTop Permalink
Considering the present debate concerning WSP's taping policy, I have a little story of someone who has their head screwed on properly. One of my friends who went to the Raleigh WSP and DMB had spoken with DMB's soundboard man (JEFF?????) at the DMB show at Cat's Cradle last week and had asked if he could tape Dave at the Ritz, and of course was given a welcoming yes. However, when my friend tried to bring his deck into the Ritz, he was seriously hasseled by the huge, muscle-rippling bouncers who told him that they did not think they could allow anyting like that into the show. However with a little eloquence, these mental-midgets were circumvented. He then faced more problems with WSP's soundboard man who would not allow any patching, even during Dave. So, the badass DMB soundboard man taped the show for my friend on their soundboard deck. Yes,yes,yes, I wish there were more people like that in this world.Top Permalink
hey everybody... i just got home from a breathtaking weekend. graves, too. they were both amazing. finally meet everyone, and to meet so many at one time. the only person i didn't meet was kwon, who came over and chatted with my companion after the show. i figured out who he was after we left. but all in all there were 11 netters there. it was so cool!!!!!! hope i didn't come across as a crazed bitch, but i was utterly excited. i liked the bayou's layout, too. great sound, and for being somewhat small, it was very comfy. i'll refrain from complaining about parking... tapers. so nobody got plugged in until the second set. the wierdest thing arose concerning taping, too. you had to have bayou permission. in writing. i'm serious. tapers got stickers from jeff that said something like, 'bayou guest... dave matthews band... audio recording...' tapers had to wear these while taping or get kicked out. i laughed my ass off. we were all joking around at the soundboard about these damn stickers!!! breezed through my hometown of richmond. coran was the one interviewed about minarets.net, and it included a number of interesting facts concerning sales, the death of dave's sister, etc. if people are interested... i'll type it out sometime and post it. just let me know, so especially passal. taggin along with the breeze, clare emilyTop Permalink
Here is the set list for The Bayou show on 2/26 I One Sweet World Billies Song that Jane Likes Satellite Help Myself So Much to Say What Would U say True Refl. II Minarets Typical Sit. Lie in Our Graves #36 Jimi THing Warehouse Watchtower Generally it seemed to me that this was a rather uninspired performance by the band. I love every show I go to, but this was the worst which I have attended. It seemed like everything was going wrong, Stefan's bass, and the one thing that angered me above all was the monitor control woman, who they must have dragged off the street, because she kept fucking w/ the monitor sound, turning it up and down during songs, how annoying. I was sitting behind her and and saw her fucking w/ the dials. Finally I asked her if she knew what she was doing which she did not take kindly to. Did anyone else notice this? What is everybody else's reaction to the show. And not Jamie, because I already heard your reaction in the bathroom of New South 1, anyway it was cool meeting you. P.S.-Hi Bruce.Top Permalink
Well, everybody, today was just awesome... Currently I am what you might call an "intern" of John Alagia...or you could say that I'm the person that gets to do the mindless stuff for him that he doesn't have time for. What I do, or what I did today was go over to his house and work on transferring some music by up and coming bands around DC to tape for a project or organization known as WAMA (Washington Area Musicians Assoc. or something like that). I also did organizing and like I said...mindless work. But oh am I so happy to be doing it. It all came about when I was at the Grog and Tankard last week w/ Christopher Sabec last week to see Derryberry & Alagia and John asked me for my help due to his overwhelming workload. Well, even if he wasn't completely serious about following it up, I was...and I sort of bugged him about it, until now, and it has finally become a reality. John is a really great guy and he was very receptive and actually enthusiatic about talking to me about the band while I was over there today. Also after I took the cab over there today...a certain someone was still there recovering from a good sleep after an intense show...yes, it was DAve. He left soon after, but it was so neato to be over there. I also got to go out to a coffee house with Christopher Sabec and chat over a cafe au lait and cookies (sorry, Christopher I forgot the name of that type of coffee cookie). All in all it was a great day for the number one DMB fan. ---(hope this arouses fierce debate.) Sleep well all. Jamie CogbillTop Permalink
Some one said Dave's New York schedule coincides with the Dead. Could that person (or anyone else) please clarify when and where Dave is in NY. ---------------------------------------------- Delivered by the Dalton Internet GatewayTop Permalink
My sister and I were debating about this on Saturday- When DMB opens for phish do you think they'll play a more straightforward album song orientedset (like Set I at the Bayou on Sat.) or will they jamout (like set II)? I certainly prefer the latter option and also think that If they want to impress uninitiated Phish fans, they really gotta jam (although I guess lots of the people there will already be DMB fans, just cause of the location). Have they played with WSP yet? What was that like? Just wondering, Marco EsKWONdolas.Top Permalink
hi- for new music. (New to me, obviously) Who needs RS or MTV? I lurk on a couple of nets and see what's up from real fans, not journalists. Fans recommend other bands or other nets; I check it out. This is fun. I enjoy reading your comments, thanks for keeping me informed. BTW, how easy is it for someone in California to get ahold of some DMB? I'd love to get a tape. Should I check out the cd? When can I expect a show in CA?Top Permalink
Hey to all you out there. just a couple things about the bayou show the other night 2/26. In defense of boyd...... I found that from where i was standing (above Boyd top left hanging off) Boyd's violin sounded incredible. Maybe it was that I was getting most of the sound out of the monitor rather than PA or the actual violin but it sounded incredible. He is also in my opinion better than most of you give him credit for. Watching his fingers move on the next i would be suprised if you guys out there who play guitar could play his satellite intro (i think it was satellite) on guitar. I play my self and would be impressed with myself if I could.... also what more do you want Boyd to explore with everyone else in the band is playing a blues/rock/whatever instrument except Boyd he is taking a strictly classical instrument and making it fit in a blues/jazz/rock/whatever band on that fact alone Boyd stands out whether or not you think he is good is one thing but give credit where credit is due..... And on the Goose...... Where Brian and I were standing on Sat. night was right at the door where the band went on stage and.....when they first came out I carefully stepped out of the way to allow all members passage or what i thought was all the members. Leroi was still lagging behind....so to get me out of the way of the door which i was then blocking he grabbed my ass! just a funny story i though i would relate. Rich "do not seek to have things happen as you want but rather seek to have them happen as they do ...for then your life will go well"Top Permalink
Some one said Dave's New York schedule coincides with the Dead. Could that person (or anyone else) please clarify when and where Dave is in NY. ---------------------------------------------- that's right and it's no coincidence. Coran is very thoughtful and intelligent as a concert promoter. On Fri. the 18th of March and Sat. the 19th DMB will be playing at Schuba's in Chicago IL. Both nights?? there are Dead shows before (at least one of the nights) the shows and should hjave time to get from them (the Dead show) to Schuba's. you may have to start making your way out of the show during the encore and fly out of there so as not to get caught in the traffic that 50,000? people bring. the Irving Plaza show in NYC is similiar. I believe the Dead play Nassua on the 23rd,24th and 25th DMB plays on the 26th and then the Dead play three more nights at Nassua. again i'm not exactly sure on the Dead dates but it works something like that. someone elaborated on the Schuba show but i couldn't dig up the message. can anyone else detail this more? alex CrothersTop Permalink
When DMB opens for phish do you think they'll play a more straightforward album song orientedset (like Set I at the Bayou on Sat.) or will they jamout (like set II)? believe it or not as i finished talking to me friend about this i turned on my computer and here is this message. interesting. at first, i thought that it may only be a Remember 2 things set but then thought about where it was. since W&L is a DMB haven, hopefully Dave and the others will realize this and just jamout. maybe a Trey thrown in there. maybe a paige? who can say for sure but here's hoping they realize everyone at that show (the majority) has heard the album/the songs on the album enough already. any other thoughts? can almost bet on a Boyd/phish thing. alex CrothersTop Permalink
can almost bet on a Boyd/phish thing. Well, how about a Leroi/Phish thing? That would be so sweet. alex Crothers Ben ----Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Let's get the show on the road.----Top Permalink
I was also wondering about the song "Best of What's Around." Everyone seems to know the song, but the last time I saw it performed was in early Sept. at the Floodzone. Has the band just dumped the song? I hope not. Although it's not one of the most jammin' songs out there, it would be nice to hear once in a while. This is my personal favorite. I was up front in Athens a few weeks ago screaming for it between EVERY SONG BREAK, BOTH NIGHTS, but to no avail. Before the saturday show I even made a little sign which I put in front of Dave's mic stand, he looked at it, looked at me, and shrugged. Well, that sign will be showing up in front of him when they're back here w/ the Samples in April. jim --Ben ----Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Let's get the show on the road.----Top Permalink
April 10 William & Mary VA 12 TBA -- however will be a NE show 13 TBA -- " " " " " " 15 Boston w/ the Samples -- will have venue info later AHA!..so.where.will.they.be.on.*April.11th?* i.guess.that.will.be.a.day.of.rest.before.heading.north,.but.i.sure.do.wish. DMB.would.play.with.the.Samples.here.in.Providence,RI.at.the.strand.on.April .11th. i.won't.pay.the.$11.to.see.the.Samples,.but.i.certainly.would.for.DMB! what.is.DMB's.connection.to.Rhode.Island?...(i.think.some.of.the.tunes.on.th e.disc.were.recorded.somewhere.in.RI......why.aren't.they.still.playing.in.t his.state?) love,danielTop Permalink
Here is the Phish and DMB ticket info for the April 20 show in 1-800-594-8499 This is Charlottesville Number Ticketmaster (804) 262-8100 TICKETS GO ON SALE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 2 AND ARE $16.00 Richmond, Va. on April 3 go are on sale now at same outlets and phone numbers. Tickets are $12.50. If you have anymore questions please email me. Could someone please forward this to Phish net and HORDE Net? Thank you and I hope to meet you at the upcoming shows! WaylandTop Permalink
Is it true that DMB cancelled their 4/21 date with Phish? Bummer if so...I kind of wanted to see them together twice...any guaranteed word? ************ What would you do if I ate your Daddy's shoes? ****************** * Gregg Carrier (aka Uncle Zany, the guy in the floppy green hat) * * JMU Box 1734 stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu * * Harrisonburg, VA 22807 (703) JMU-KIND * *********** What would you say if it was naturally for you? ******************Top Permalink
there's a rumor floating around (and if gregg has already asked here, then i'm sorry...;) that dave matthews has cancelled his april 21 appearance with phish in winston-salem. anyone know about the validity here? also, when this net was formed, we were told that it was being monitered by red light management via an american online account straight out of the office at trax. are you guys still there? ====================================================================== rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu jmu box 5388 willing to tell you anything you harrisonburg va 22807 ever wanted to know about the dave (703) 568-4945 disjunct lyrics). ********************************************************************** "It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense." ======================================================================Top Permalink
what.is.DMB's.connection.to.Rhode.Island?...(i.think.some.of.the.tunes.on.th e.disc.were.recorded.somewhere.in.RI......why.aren't.they.still.playing.in.t his.state?) love,daniel that would make DMB laugh if you said that to them. (i think) there is a misprint in the album. a few shows after the album was released they mentioned it at a show in Trinity CT. the album says part of the album was recorded live at The Muse in Nantucket, RI. Dave recognized the fact that Nantucket isn't in RI and made a oke about it. funny you mentioned RI though. alex CrothersTop Permalink
Blake- I tried writing to you at blakec@infi.net but my mail bounced. Please get in touch with me. Sorry about the personal, KwonTop Permalink
also, when this net was formed, we were told that it was being monitered by red light management via an american online account straight out of the office at trax. are you guys still there? rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu they are still there but.... very vaguely. Management has an account that is subscribed to minarets, as do the designers of the album, as does DMB's lawyer. so in reality there are three accounts somehow related to the band directly that check out the net. but....this doesn't mean that they actually read minarets. in fact, recently i had to make a decision about DMB "monitering" minarets. at first, i got that Big Brother feeling and was very skeptical. Minarets, in my mind at least, should be a place where talk is free to move in whatever direction it moves (to a degree...PhishNet may have taken this a little too far?) without outside interference. i was afraid if someone was "monitering" minarets and things came up that were somehow contrary to the band they would intercede and "straighten things out." after discussing this (in a roundabout way) i've assumed that whatever 'official' eyes that are out there watching are doing so because of their pleasaure for the band and not to moniter minarets in anyway. in any case, many of the accounts remain unchecked for days and weeks. they usually contact me when something comes up that i(minarets) should know about and i get in touch with them when a question pops up on minarets that needs an immediate answer. alex CrothersTop Permalink
little room to think about that one. aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. also, the last time i saw dave play best of what's around was when i interviewed him here at jmu (meaning i was in the same room and he was playing my guitar...................narf). my impression is that he's tiring just a little of the song. i'd wait until this summer to see it again, and to the person who's really pestering him for it, we all know that that only buggs him, and your a lot less likely to hear it. the only time he's ever played a request for me was when he played so much to say on 7-14-93 after a good 5 month hiatus. nobody, and i mean nobody, on this net is going to say that dave matthews band should kick boyd out. nobody hear really disrespects boyd, a lot of us just think that he tends to give into a really commercial oriented mood a lot of the time. for those of you who like the lyrics to true reflections, more power to you. but have you _ever_ heard them jam the song out? i haven't. (tri-poetry jams don't count, imho) but if you go to a good seek-up or blue water it's just sickening the level to which boyd takes it, and there are a lot of people who i can speak for when i say we need to see more of that. ====================================================================== rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu jmu box 5388 willing to tell you anything you harrisonburg va 22807 ever wanted to know about the dave (703) 568-4945 disjunct lyrics). ********************************************************************** "It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense." ======================================================================Top Permalink
to see it again, and to the person who's really pestering him for it, we all know that that only buggs him, and your a lot less likely Hey, I'm respectful. I write a little sign, and put it on stage. They haven't played to song in a while (this interview was back in the fall?). And by the way, I know for a fact Dave DOES do this song by request. At the Wetlands 8/19/93, some dude was screaming for it all night, and what was the last song of the show? Yup, it was the BEST best. It's not like I'm really pestering him-- I've seen them only four times since the summer! (subliminal NE tour grovel) --BenTop Permalink
How come Phish at Bender cost me $20 (plus 3.50 tickmast), but Phish with DMB costs $16? Maybe they're trying to make it up to me for paying the $9.50 at Trax (it used to be $5). Also, for whoever asked about the Best of What's Around, they played it at Trax Nov.2 and 23rd. It is always nice to hear Carter's intro drum roll. They played this all the time in '92, I don't know why they stopped; I'll take it over One Sweet World (or True Reflections or Lover(sorry clare) anyday.) month straight? (Seek, Tripping, Jane, One Sweet) Also, could Blake please write me, I don't have your address. Maybe we can set up a trade since I'll see you at ARU.Top Permalink
have people been getting their trades, i know i haven't, not to comlpain it's just that i'm outa here in 2 weeks! and i'd like to take them with me comlpain, vomplain complain complane election night '92 word it's not a psychedelic seek up, blue water, "thang" type doobie but i groove on it on occassion (when not listening to the above) does anyone know anything about the Hairy Mary show in Des Moins? Iowa that is. eh? Ed ******* look WHAT'S in the freezer!!!!!! *******Top Permalink
In defense of boyd...... I found that from where i was standing (above Boyd top left hanging off) Boyd's violin sounded incredible. also what more do you want Boyd to explore with everyone else in the band is playing a blues/rock/whatever instrument except Boyd he is taking a strictly classical instrument and making it fit in a blues/jazz/rock/whatever um,.i.think.that.if.we.renamed.boyd's."violin".a.FIDDLE, then.we.could.see.that.the.style.is.not.as.derivative.of."Classical" as.it.is.of."Bluegrass.".... (which.better.explains.how.well.it.fits.w/dave&crew) however,.i.think.i.remember.reading.that.boyd.learned.the.instrument. in.classical.style....is.that.right?..(probably.in.the.faq,.i.should.check.. .) love,danielTop Permalink
Is anyone going to compile the set lists from 12/5 as Alex did for 11/16 to 12/5? If anyone has kept track of all that and wouldn't mind typing it into the net I would most appreciate it. Lyric thoughts... DANGEROUS HOURS...for once I agree with Kerry and think it should be LIE IN OUR GRAVES...i've never heard "when I step into the room" TYPICAL SITUATION...yeah, i've changed my mind and think that I goofed WAREHOUSE...Begins with "Hey wreckless mind" "They come and bond in WHAT WOULD YOU SAY..."drink a hope to happy years" You may agree not to agree. Jamie CogbillTop Permalink
Hey folks, this is my lyrics contribution. It's taken from a set that on my tape is listed only as THANKSGIVING '92. It's at FZ, and Dave says Happy Thanksgiving. The day before the holiday, 1992? The Maker Angel From Montgomery Desperate Hours Dancing Nancies People Tripping Billies One Sweet World -- Halloween Song Pay For What You Get So Much To Say True Reflections Lover Lay Down ANYWAY, here are the lyrics to this version of People. Just a note on the title, Dave announces that it's called "People" (as opposed to "People, ------------------------------------------------ Seven tumbling oceans surround the ground that I dance upon Black and white and the rainbow, five colors in my eyes. Seven tumbling oceans surround the ground that I dance upon Black and white and the rainbow, five colors in my eyes. People, People What are we doing here Oh, People What have we done with things People, People What are we doing here Oh, People What have we done with things When we fight over the oceans? When we fight over the skies, and why? When we fight over our borders? Then we, our brothers and sisters deny. Tell me why is it so cold in here. Seven tumbling oceans surround the ground that I dance upon Black and white and the rainbow, five colors in my eyes. When we stand in the mother's arms, no feeling of emptiness. When we stand in the mother's hands, we can see that When we fight over the oceans When we fight over the skies, and why When we fight over our borders Then we, our brothers and sisters deny. Tell me why do we do it. Why do we do it? Oh, . . . ------------------------------------------------- Pretty heavy stuff, huh? Peace, everyone. --Ben --------------------Let's get down to the nitty-gritty---------------------- ----------------------Let's get the show on the road.-----------------------Top Permalink
Derryberry & Alagia are playing at the Bayou, Thursday March 17th. The show is called "Roots, Rock and Rhythm". Kevin Johnson is listed as either part of the show or possibly as an opening act. If this is the Kevin Johnson I know of, he is a fine musician and used to accompany dance classes at The Dance Place in D.C. klongTop Permalink
recently a coupla people have asked me how to undigestify minarets net, and this is what i found out, just in case anyone else is the listproc doesn't support a command to simply undigestify the net, so the only way to do it is to unsubscribe, and then resubscribe. the cool thing is you can do both in the same message. just send in unsubscribe minarets subscribe minarets your first nameyour last name and about 2 minutes later you will be privy to an undigestified minarets net. remember, the address is listproc@moose.uvm.edu, and make sure that when you tell freinds how to subscribe that you give them this address so that we can keep subscription messages to a minimum here on minarets.net. ====================================================================== rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu jmu box 5388 willing to tell you anything you harrisonburg va 22807 ever wanted to know about the dave (703) 568-4945 disjunct lyrics). ********************************************************************** "It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense." ======================================================================Top Permalink
STYLE WEEKLY 28 Feb, 1994 RICHMOND RAVES by Andy Garrigue triumphant return. able to get their hands on a Dave Matthews Band compact disc instead of the bootleg concert tapes they had been surviving on forever. They also knew that one day the band would sign a major-label recording contract. THe momentum had been building for months. With weekly shows at the Flood Zone and Charlottesville's Trax consistently attracting more than 500 people, how could it not happen? "Remember Two Things" went on sale. Before the day was done, one record store in C'ville rang up more than 1,100 copies, DMB had sold out another Trax show and the ink was drying on a multiple-album recording contract with RCA records. According to Big Shots Records out of Athens Ga, who shipped 12,500 DMB discs in the first two weeks, "first-day sales of this album were bigger than any artist outside REM and Widespread Panic." interview, said, "I haven't seen anything like that before for an independent release. It comfirms our belief that they're going to be big, that they're doing to grow and grow and grow, be a career artist. And we're going to be in it with them for the long haul." distinctive vocals in a free-ranging melodic mix of jazz, world-beat, folk of friends and college radio stations. There's a Dave Matthews E-net on Internet so fans can communicate with each other. Called "minaret," after one of Matthews' songs, it began at the University of Vermont and is solely fan operated. According to manager Coran Capshaw, "It's traveled across at least 28 states and to Austrailia and Canada." Capshaw estimates the recording is now sold in 25 states, with total sales over the last three months approaching 25,000. performances. On Feb 24, the band makes their first performance in Richmond since playing at the Marriot on New Year's Eve. After this show at the Flood Zone, the band's next Richmond date is April 3, when they'll perform on Brown's Island with Widespread Panic. native South Africa that his sister had been murdered by her husband, who then took his own life, orphaning their two small children. Matthews flew there to be with his family. When Matthews returned, the tour resumed, and two shows at a 1,000 seat venue in Athens sold out in four hours. but there's no question about from where his emotional support has been coming. Commenting on the band's future after bing signed by RCA, he said, "I think our success so far has been because we've stayed together. And the remainder of what comes in the future relies very much on us remaining a tight unit. However we mature together in the business, or manage to survive whatever comes to us, the main focus for me is for us to stay together. Then everyting will take care of itself." there you go everyone... pretty interesting facts, huh? any net comments??????Top Permalink
why was bender $4 more at bender? because bender is a beuracratic hole in the ground (what else would you expect from dc) who likes to steal your cigarettes, whereas lexington virginia is just a happy farm off of va state rt 39. not to mention that the demand for phish nye run was _way_ high. ====================================================================== rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu jmu box 5388 willing to tell you anything you harrisonburg va 22807 ever wanted to know about the dave (703) 568-4945 disjunct lyrics). ********************************************************************** "It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense." ======================================================================Top Permalink
Could someone send me the FAQ and Lyrics file. My copies are pretty outdated - 11/3/93??! thanks on my way, joe ps Why doesn't Dave and the band come up to boring NWestern PA and Western NY?? I envy y'all down in that killer geographical area of VA!Top Permalink
Just talked to management and i mentioned the rumor that the Winston Salem Phish/DMB show had been cancelled. as far as they were concerned it was still on. where did that info come from (Rick, Gregg??) alex CrothersTop Permalink
Hey all, amount of people that came out (300-400) being it was the Tuesday night before Spring Break, AND more importantly, no CD store in town carries their disc. It's amazing what a listing in Rolling Stone can do...Anyway it was the second time i saw them. The first time being way back in '91 at Brown's Island in Richmond. I was really impressed--here's the sets with a few comments to follow... Set I Tripping Billies Intro-One Sweet World Lie in Our Graves Satellite (under 21 crowd goes nuts at beginning) Warehouse Recently What Would You Say True Reflections Set II Minarets Typical Situation Dancing Nancies Jane Ants Watchtower Halloween The crowd was interesting, not only larger than expected but younger. But a friend of mine in Richmond says the under 21 crowd digs Dave. There were a couple people from up north Spring Breaking and following Dave on the way downjudging by the conversation I overheard. They were yellin for Halloween all night. Kinda annoying...Onto the show--it was rockin and jamming, notmuch on the mellow side. Dave even said before Xmas Song something like."We do have a softer side, you just haven't seen it too much tonight--I guess were just pumped to be out of the f***ing cold weather." I was a little disappointed with Dave's vocals--he was hard to understand, but the recordings I have sound kinda the same. I got that consensus from the friends with me. Highlights, besides Carter the whole night, man does he go off (and sing too), were True Reflections (about 8-9 minutes) and a rocking Watchtower, which Boyd and Dave started off with a little picking duel. That's all I can think of now..maybe more later. No tapers... Peace BrianTop Permalink
Internet so fans can communicate with each other. Called "minaret," after one of Matthews' songs, it began at the University of Vermont and is solely fan operated. According to manager Coran Capshaw, "It's traveled across at least 28 states and to Austrailia and Canada." I.found.this.paragraph.to.be.slightly.confusing.&.misleading....... I.know.we.have.less."subscribers,"so.to.speak,.than.the.album... have.y'all.heard.about.the.taping-tragedy......the.new.rule.barring.taping.o f.WSP.(and.ARU???).shows.......8-(....8-(....8-( ANYWAY,.i.was.wondering.if.anyone.out.there.was/will.be.able.to.score.tapes. of.the.WSP.show(s).which.DMB.open,.since.i.am.sure.some.of.you.will.be.grabb ing.sbd's.of.the.DMB.sets....hopefully.you.can.just.leave.your.decks.patched .in.(secretly?).and.grab.some.kind.tapes.ofWSP.as.well?..... love,daniel ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SPACE.would.be.nice SORRY...i.know.this.bothers.many.of.you. unfortunately.my.keyboard.cannot. be.repaired.until.(insert.random.soon.time.) REALLY..it.will.be.fixed.SOON. ++++++++++++++++++++++++greenfling++++-- is.it.strange.i.should.change?i.don't.know... An.honest.tune.with.a.lingering.lead.can.now.only.be.experienced.on.studio-r ecorded.tapes!?!?!?.....8-(... bad.move."CA-PRICK-HORN.WRECK-HORDES."(-g)Top Permalink
I'm sorry to annoy you with my selfish notes with no relevance really but does anyone have Dec 22 1992 at trax. It was a great show with the best Two step I've ever heard. And....Top Permalink
well first of all, i must have missed somewhere that bit about his sister being murdered by her husband... that's awful. i thought it had been a car accident. wow. that makes things even more crushing for dave... i actually wrote a song to dave after that happened (in his "style", too -- or as best i could manage his vocal style anyway). maybe i'll send it to him now. do they accept mail at trax? to be honest, as much as i hope y'all get to hear a really jammin' set with phish, i'd bet a dollar to a donut that you'll get remember 2 things. the band is business-minded in a very subtle way (some of you have probably noticed this) and it makes sound financial sense to push their album. so i'm sure they will. they have success in mind (who wouldn't, really) and dave has already said -- jokingly, in part, i'm sure -- that he wants to make loads and loads of money. he was kidding, but not too much. anyway, at the moment it looks like i won't be able to catch this fantastic show with dmb/ phish/gsw in my home town but i hope everyone has a great time. just the concept of *any* of the members of the band joining the other band is frightening. absolutely crazy. also, after reading the latest phish newsletter of a couple days ago, i would assume that no taping would be allowed because lexington isn't on the list of tapers shows? or will there just not be a taping section? god, i'd hate to actually miss the show and then not be able to get a tape of it, too.... grumble, grumble. take care, reid -SPICE@DICKINSON.EDUTop Permalink
just sitting around watching the news when all of a sudden I saw Boyd on tv or what I thought was Boyd. You wouldn't believe the resemblance. He was wearing glasses very similar to Boyd's and he was wearing a cowboy hat as well. The fellow's name was Stan Sanders (Saunders) and he's a field reporter for the Baltimore ABC affiliate. You netters in the area should check it out, you won't believe it. I for one still cannot get over that Dave is opening for Phish. Doesn't this blow anyone else's gourd? How many people open for Phish regardless of whether or not its a local thing? Not many. are really skyrocketing. I heard it was nine bucks at Trax last week, eight if you're legal. This seems to be getting way out of hand especially when you consider that for an additional $7 one can see Phish as well granted Dave will not be playing 2+ hrs. Hopefully this will be the end of the hikes at least for now. If not we could have another Big Head Todd on our hands. At least BHT has an album out on a major label though not that this is an indicator of talent or anything though.Top Permalink
STYLE WEEKLY 28 Feb, 1994 fan operated. According to manager Coran Capshaw, "It's traveled across at least 28 states and to Australia and Canada." Capshaw estimates the Okay folks, if anyone out there Down Under is actually reading this message, please, please, PLEASE contact me! btanen@husc.harvard.edu --Ben --------------------Let's get down to the nitty-gritty---------------------- ----------------------Let's get the show on the road.-----------------------Top Permalink
I don't mean to shock anyone here. But both the band and the venue are in control over ticket prices. As are the laws of supply and demand. The prices for a Phish show in the NE are goona be higher for a number of reasons. 1) Phish can get the money in the NE 2) The bigger the venue, the more in production and other overhead it costs to get the show off, so aside from the band gettign paid a lot, the venue has to shell out a lot to pay people to work. Now if these places thought no one would go, they wouldn't book the bands because they would be losing a ton of money on the show. If none of these places were willing to pay the band for shows, the band would likely pay for less. This happens in areas where they are less popular. ie if Phish went to Mexico right now there is a good chance that they could not fill a place the size of the Centrum. If DMB were to go out and play in N Dakota (not meant as a flame) ticket prices would probably be very low and the band wouldn't make much money off it, probably not much more than enough to survive. The venues have to figure out some line where a rise in tickt price will not take away too much of the audience. Quite obviously down at Trax they are not having to drag people in off the street. They can't stay in business taking losses. DMB costs more with their rise in popularity and the bars have to offset that rise in cost. Be happy that you can see them every week still (or however often it is that they play down there.) My guess is that it won't be long before you will be complaining that you can only see them once in a month or less. And ticket prices will likely be higher then too. Stay out of the snow (and no smart remarks from those of you in warmer climates) -- Eric Budke Union College Box 241 Fax (Subj. Concert Committee) Schenectady NY 12308 (518)388-6446 518-388-5615 God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator budkee@world.std.com budkee@delphi.com budkee@unvax.union.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Top Permalink
i.have.heard.that.Irving.Plaza.(NYC).is.a.really.crappy.place.to.play..(ugly ,.bad.acoustics,.dirty.,.uncomfortable...)........is.that.true,...y'all.who' ve.seen.dmb.there? i.was.told.that.bands.play.there.because.it.is.bigger.than.wetlands.and.chea per.than.roseland....... with.some.luck,.i.will.be.at.the.DMB.show.there.on.3/26,.so.i.was.just.wonde ring.what.it's.like..... love,danielTop Permalink
i've mentioned this before but i think i'll say something again cause it's been on my mind. at first i thought that DMB would play a Remember Two things type set when they opened for phish. and this might be the case, who can say for sure? BUT...when i thought about it some more i realized that the show could easily go the other way too. think about were DMB is opening for Phish. Lexington Virginia. W&L is one of the couple schools that started DMB on its way. hopefully DMB will realize that almost everyone at the Lexington show knows DMB already and has heard the album enough. hopefully. but like i said, who can say for sure? alex crothersTop Permalink