Flood Zone Dec. 8...yeeehah!

COGBILLJ@GUVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 00:50:00 1993

Wow, driving down to Rich. from Georgetown was definitely worth it to
see Dave's last regular show at the Flood Zone.  It was really quite
an experience.  I arrived when the band was finishing up their
soundcheck, and then I saw Dave and got to chew the fat with him for
about 10 minutes.  Then I was truly psyched to see that TR3 was
opening for the band and DAve informed me that Timmy was gonna play
with the band the whole night.  That guy can really play the guitar.
Boyd was sizzling, Dave was in good spirits, and everybody seemed to
be in a really playful, happy mood!  Here's a set list for the night
although some of the songs in the  middle are out of order.  oh yeah,
they didn't even take a break all night so they're is really only one
set.
Jane
Tripping Billies
True Reflections
Granny
Dancing Nancies
One Sweet World
Song No. 36----yes!
New Tune
Minarets
Seek Up
Quick Lay and Goodbye
I'll Back You up
Christmas Song
(allow me to say that the Ants encore was probably the highlight of
the whole show...the song was so energetic and Timmy's jamming just
made it all the better!)
Jamie Cogbill

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possible FAQ info

WOTTONGM@VUCTRVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 04:07:34 1993

This is somethimg that Coran Capshaw(DMB's manager) sends out.  It's a little
to create a uniquely compelling pop sound that combines the influences of folk
jazz, rock, world beat, and reggae.
assemble the players in 1991 to accompany him on a demo tape of original songs.
Then a bartender in a C'ville VA jazz venue, Matthews says he aimed high,
approaching the musicians he respected most.
The trio then approached Stefan Lessard, who at 16 was already an accomplished
upright bass player, about playing electric bass guitar for the band.  When
one of the tunes seemed to need violin, they enlisted the string expertise
of Boyd Tinsley.  And the band was born.
who is the band's chief songwriter.  "It's pop music with a pretty positive
message. I hope it's acceessible to everyone."
strong individuals, each with his own interpretation of a given song. His band
members agree. "We take a lot of different influences and make something new
out of them by playing each song the best that we can play it," LeRoi Moore
music who left his native South Africa as a young child, returning their after
music who left his native South Africa as a young child, returning their after
(oops),returning there as a teenager after living in the U.S. and England.
folk, and classical. Matthews draws from the folk traditions of many cultures
from around the globe, finding common themes among their complex rhythms.
For him, making music is about bringing people together, "lifting spirits."
to separate them."
trumpet player, he is himself a renowned musician, and has appeared regularly
on Black Entertainment Television's "BET on Jazz with Ramsey Lewis." "I was
raised on Jazz," says Beauford, whose jazz influence is evident in the makeup
of the DMB. "Except for Stefan's bass guitar, we're an acoustic band," he
says. "That comes from the early days of jazz, and from the classical influence
too." The result is a multimixtured sound that offers new challenges to
Beauford and the other band members. "There are so many different elements in
our music," he says. "You really can't put a label, and that's why I love it
so much."
An upright bass player who has played in clubs since the age of 15, he was
tapped by Matthews because he, "just had a feeling about him, his spirit,
his sense of music, it's so much beyond his years."  Lessard admits he feels
lucky, but his band members say it's talent not luck, that has brought him so
far so soon. "The best thing about this band is that you get this potpourri
of different styles."
influence," admits Moore, who also has classical training. "But at this stage
I really don't consider myself a Jazz musician."  For him the DMB remains a
challenge because thee is room to explore, to respond to the expressions of
the other four players. "I have plenty of space to improvise, to try new ideas"
says Moore, whom Matthews credits with arranging many of the songs he writes.
"It's almost better than a jazz gig."
abandoned the reserved precision of classical violin for the spontaneity of
contemporary musical performance. "This was the area that I hadn't explored
before," says Tinsley, who has been playing popular music since 1985. "When
I'm into my music my whole body, my whole soul is into it."  The band's
diverse roots are a great asset, Tinsley says. "We're very American, as Dave
says. Jazz, fiddle-style rock, it's almost a melting pot of American music."
The best thing though, he says, is how much it matters to the audience, and
to the players. "People are drawn to it," he says. "There's passion here."

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Jeff's not such a good sound man

daveh@shell.portal.com Sun Dec 12 10:22:54 1993

I know, there are probably some of you who believe that Jeff is a great
soundman, but I beg to differ, and I'll explain why (and maybe, if Alex so
desires, he can forward this along to DMB's managemnet for forwarding to
Jeff).  Anyways, the first time I saw DMB was out at Red Rocks in Colorado
(still looking for a tape of that show!).  They sounded fantastic that
night.. not too loud, everything was real clear, great.  The only other two
times that I have seen them have been at indoor arenas.  Once was at Trinity
college in Hartford, CT; the other was Friday night at Irving Plaza in New
York City.  I thought Trinity was just a bad night for sound, but it was
EXACTLY the same at Irving Plaza, which makes me wonder who it was doing
sound for them at Red Rocks.  The main problem is that the sound is FAR too
loud for an indoor show.. for ANY show.  On Friday night the speakers were
breaking up it was so loud, and Jeff never turned it down.  People were
holding their fingers to their ears just to get a break from the audio
pummeling they were receiving.  The other problem was that it was REAL muddy.
Far too much low-mid range on the bass and Dave's guitar sounded TERRIBLE.
Even when Dave played a song solo, his guitar was SO MUDDY that A) It broke
up the speakers on its own and B) you couldn't even HEAR the vocals.  FAR too
much low end on Dave's guitar.  I play in a band, and I have a feeling where
the problem lies and, if they don't watch out, more people will start to
notice.  It seems to me that Jeff knows all their songs... fine, but some
people (more as the days go on and on) DON'T.  Jeff knows everyone's parts in
every song, and when he listens to a song -- no matter how muddy, he hears
those parts, because he knows what they're SUPPOSED to be.  For someone who's
only seen the band 3 times, I like a little more clarity (and a little less
volume) in the sound.  The other problem withe Irving Plaza was that the
soundboard was upstairs on the balcony and the majority of the people
(including the RCA reps who had their fingers in their ears) were DOWNSTAIRS.
Now, there's no problem with that.  But, never once did Jeff leave the board
and walk downstairs to check to see how bad it sounded!  You lose a LOT of
mud when you've got a nice piece of flooring between you and the speakers!

Anyway, they put on a great show.. I enjoyed the first set better than the
second, but I think that was due to the volume increases being even greater
in the second set.  By Jimi Thing, my ears (with EARPLUGS IN THEM) were
hurting so much that the sound was cutting out - I went upstairs because I
tend to value my hearing, being a musician and all.  


P.S.  Have a nice day.
--

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12/11 Williams Set list

EWHESSE@AMHERST.BITNET Sun Dec 12 14:03:15 1993

I trekked up to Williams last night through a snow storm that plagued the
band as well. It took them over 8 hours to get from NYC to Williams according
to Jeff. They were to come on around 10 but they didn't get to Williams
until 11. Then they had to set up quicly and souncheck during this improv
song about the hellish journey. The pass getting into the Williamstown valley
was dangerous and slow. We only got one set because they had to stop at 2.
(these are all reasons why Amherst is better than Williams by the way). The
sound was also rough but unlike Dave Hamiliton I think that it was the venue
that made it difficult. It was in a Triangular glass cafeteria-like room
w/ tall ceilings and then really low ceilings over most of it. Jeff was
frantically running back and forth throughout most of the first set,
fighting the tangled mass of drunkeness, until the sound was pretty good.
12/11/93 Williams College Williamstown, MA
Improv soundcheck about the snow
One Sweet World
Tripping Billies
Jane
Satellite
Granny
#36
Dancing Nancies
Help Myself
Lie in our Graves
-Solo- Quick Lay/ Just4Tonite
Minarets
Ants
Watchtower
They played quite well considering the circumstances and I am constantly
impressed w/ the accessibility and friendliness of the crew and band. I
listened to alot of the show on headphones of the board mix which was
mindboggling (especially #36 and Quick Lay)
Dave's playing solo in Albany tonight. Anyone going?
Eric

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Re: Halloween, Christmas, other thoughts

kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sun Dec 12 18:06:36 1993

Gregg, I admit it too--we like different things about DMB. You like
Christmas, and Quick Lay, whereas I find them to be very un-original. What
every great DMB song has in common is
1) They have amazing guitar lines, (rhyme & reason, minarets, so much to say)
2) They have amazing lyrics that are sung in a style unlike any other singer;
(Warehouse, Two Step) 
Christmas song may stem from the fact that I saw it as an encore three
straight times and it nearly put me to sleep each time, though I must admit,
I do like the "Love, Love, Love" part. I also find these songs to lack
emotion; true emotion is a solo Seek Up, with words that flow out, versus the
completely memorized lyrics he now sings for Seek Up. (What ever happened to
"Forget about the notion that emotions can be cured?") 

point he is "watching the band play";  he does not say "Are you satisfied
with fucking," he says "Are you satisfied with fucking (something or other
up)" implying that someone is fucking him or his life up (or over).
the net asked if I have seen this live; about ten times, enough to know that
there is so much emotion in this song that if you need to know what he is
saying to enjoy the song, you've lost the point.
but that's not the reason it's never played at Trax.      He should think
about singing it slow, and w/ Boyd and Leroi, like on 10/31/92, and 8/14/93; 
it is very psychedelic this way.

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Re: Halloween, Christmas, other thoughts

blakec@wyvern.com Sun Dec 12 19:04:35 1993


 every great DMB song has in common is
 1) They have amazing guitar lines, (rhyme & reason, minarets, so much to say)
 2) They have amazing lyrics that are sung in a style unlike any other singer;
 (Warehouse, Two Step) 

correct

 point he is "watching the band play";  he does not say "Are you satisfied
 with fucking," he says "Are you satisfied with fucking (something or other
 up)" implying that someone is fucking him or his life up (or over).
   And I stand by my point that words mean nothing in this song--someone on
 the net asked if I have seen this live; about ten times, enough to know that

I don't pretend to know exactly what halloween is about.  Obviously Dave's
lyrics are open to interpretaion, because of the poetic style they are
written in, but I always thought that it was about a lover's breakup with
his/her mate and the distrought feeling that go along with it such as
suicide.  Like someone said a while back, it's a love song.  That's what I
feel the song to be about, but who knows?  half the time I can't hear exactly
what Dave is saying anyway because of the growls and yodels in this song. :)

Living in Charlotsville and seeing the band from it's inception makes you
knowledgable about the lyrics and music, but please don't claim that your
interpretaion of a song is the definative one. I've seen them play a lot
also but I don't feel like I'm the custodian of lyric meaning.  Let's all
just have fun and enjoy the music.

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re: halloween

cecliff@vt.edu Sun Dec 12 19:23:54 1993



blake's right...
it's a love song.
the pain and thrill of love.  
that's all.


love.
no question about it.

"why this lonely love?",

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Dave and Hair

blakec@wyvern.com Sun Dec 12 19:35:37 1993

As a budding entrepenuer, I have an important question to ask.  Does anyone
have access to Dave's hair?  For instance, is his barber on the net?  I
would think that would be a great demand/market for locks of his hair. 
Someone could make those glassy eyed Trax groupies really happy.  What could
be a better Christmas/Chanukah gift than a lock of your favorite singer hair
or perhaps his nail pairings.  Just wondering...

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Interviews and articles files...

STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 20:00:32 1993

Hey...to all you didn't catch it, I'm keeping a file of interviews and articles
about DMB.  So to the guy who had an article, please do type it in and send it
to the net and myself personally.  Thanks.  If anyone sees an article or
interviews a member of the band, then please do the same...thanks...
---------------------------snip-------------------------------------------
Phone #: (or numbers and dates/times you'll be there)
--------------------------snip--------------------------------------------
Take it easy all...
******************************************************************************
*          The guy with the floppy green hat at the New Years Shows          *
*     With all kinds of cheezy buttons and a sticker that says "Uncle Zany"  *
*           Come up and say "Hey, Gregg!"....and I'll say "Yeah?"            *
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Oops...forgot...

STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 20:00:41 1993

Favorite color should be on the netters form too...
******************************************************************************
*          The guy with the floppy green hat at the New Years Shows          *
*     With all kinds of cheezy buttons and a sticker that says "Uncle Zany"  *
*           Come up and say "Hey, Gregg!"....and I'll say "Yeah?"            *
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Halloween

COGBILLJ@GUVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 20:02:28 1993

About Halloween, Kerry, don't be so quick to say you're correct
because your not....He does say "are you satisfied with Fucking" based
on the fact that when he's playing in more open/ public venues such as
Browns Island, Richmond (4/18/93) he says "are you satisfied with sex"
somebody fucking something up.  PLEASE  don't try to tell me that he
doesn't repeat the word "love" over and over in that song.  I believe
that it is about break up based on "don't walk away," and what sounds
like "lovey dove" which may be an idealistic naive view of love he is
trying to express.
Thanx.
Jamie Cogbill

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DMB interview(long), pt. 1

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sun Dec 12 21:10:57 1993


December 9, 1993       


extraordinaire Tinsley.
is that doing?
we're also doing really well in Washington state, Chicago and Colorado.
epitomizes the Dave Matthews Band?
bunch of diverse sounds together, and the outcome seems to fall under the 
large umbrella of rock.

Ok, so Boyd wasn't going to tell me what makes the Dave Matthews Band cool.
It looked like I would have to right to the top, and ask Dave himself.  
Backstage, he gave me his phone number and suggested that we meet the next
day over coffee to do an interview.  The setting was was Kafkafe on 
Elliewood, a wonderful coffee shop, in case you haven't visited yet. 

something I didn't know.  You guys have signed on with RCA already.
option for up to seven total.  That doesn't include the one that just 
came out.  We are going to keep that one for ourselves so we can make all
the pennies. 
us, and we were into them being into us.  We agreed we wanted to work for
them, and they emphasized that they were willing to let us do what we liked,
you know, make something that we were really happy with.
there were "Pay For What You Get" and "Granny", they've got that hook you
can't forget now matter how hard you try, how desperately you beat your head
against the wall (laughs).  I am happy with all the songs we chose, and I 
wouldn't have taken any songs away, although I might have put more songs on.
you asked them to join on?
meet.  I put together a demo of my music, and then I went to Roy (saxophone)
and then Carter (drums) with my demo tape and asked them if they would be 
interested in working on what was going to be a studio project.  And they
both said yeah, yeah, and we played a little bit live and recorded some 
music, played more live, and things got better and better.  Steffan (bass)
also joined really early on, within the first couple of weeks that we got
together.  He was 15 at the time we approached him.  After about six months
we were working on "Tripping Billies" and Roy said we should have a violin
for this song, so we asked Boyd to come and sit in on that song.  At that
time, he had been in a band that fell apart, and as time went on, he just
stepped across and started playing.

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DMB interview, pt2

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sun Dec 12 21:11:31 1993

more of the previous article....


that I worked at [Miller's].  I had seen Carter in Miller's, and Steffan
too.  But Roy was the one I knew best, though I had watched Carter for 
years in a band called Secrets, and he had performed on BET's jazz show.
based around living life to its fullest.
necessity to enjoy life, not necessarily to be frivolous or gluttonous
but to enjoy everything, not just playing or just sex or just food.  A 
lot of the lyrics are [about] feeling the strength of Africa; if these 
people can see the value of life even when life is pretty hopeless, then
certainly in a place like America where most of us have a lot, there 
really can be almost no reason to complain.
Johannesburg, and I guess I lived there a total of about nine years.
Probably because I was a teenager when I was there, most of my musical
attitude might have come from South Africa because at that age you are,
of course, very impressionable.
Five.  I also listened to a lot of classical music; my mother made our
whole family learn the piano.

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DMB interview, pt.3

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sun Dec 12 21:12:01 1993

here is the third part of the interview.............

Traveler, Widespread Panic, and Aquarium Rescue Unit.  How was that?
for a larger audience, and what fun it was see how organized things could
be, how organized the stage and sound was.  With all that power, you can
get so much done in such a short period of time.
inspiring.
to start seeing a lot less of Dave around here.
as often as we can at Trax, but we just have to cut down our shows because
it's hard to get out to Colorado and the West Coast without doing that.
together and endure ego-swelling things coming our way, and not want to
murder each other, as long as we keep moving the music along, we'll be 
all right.
shows.
recently by bands like Cypress Hill, the Black Crowes, Pearl Jam and 
others to promote the legalization of marijuana.  Other bands choose 
other causes to endorse.  What does the Dave Matthews stand for?
a great supporter of politicians and governments in general, only because
I think they start off with an idea of assisting people and end up turning
people against each other.  I'd say don't drink and drive.  There's a 
whole list of things.  But as far as what we stand for, do anything you 
pretty reasonable.  
should you guys move elsewhere?
home.  It's where my mom is, and the umbilical cord may be stretched, but
it's still there.

end of article.  Two pictures were included; one of the band, the other
of Dave on stage.

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Re: Halloween

dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Mon Dec 13 10:15:40 1993


OK, here's MY interpretation to Halloween.  I've discussed it with others

Listen to the words (what little you can make out), and it's pretty
apparent that the song is about a girl that Dave picks up at one of the

The story develops that she just wants sex with him for one night, and 

and finally, toward the end, the repeated "why this lonely love".

Well, that's my opinion, and of course, being that it's my opinion, it 
must be right.  ;-)

-Dave

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Re: MINARETS digest 51

rbyerly Mon Dec 13 15:24:40 1993

I'm was just wondering if the "budding entrepreneur" was really serious
about marketing Dave's hair (the message was posted in digest 51).  If so
I have a few things to say about that later but if it wasn't meant to be
serious then I apologize for wasting space.

Eat, Drink, and Be Merry...For Tomorrow We Die

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Re: false inferences

kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Mon Dec 13 16:10:40 1993

It's kind of funny that I keep being accused of saying that I know everything
there is to know about Halloween, since I never said that.  

it was about a nightmare; can nightmares not be about love?  And at Brown's
Island, he says "Are you satisfied with this set?"

everything about this song?  Never.  Custodian of lyric meaning???????  Am I
not aloud to put in my interpretation?  Should I start out every article I
write with "The views represented within are only an opinion and are in no
way the definitive answer on DMB?"

What should people who infer things that were not implied do?  Read articles
more carefully; think before you write--and remember, if you don't have
anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!

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Re: DMB Colorado Jan. dates

kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Mon Dec 13 16:31:29 1993

Could someone please send me the dates that DMB will be playing in Colorado
this January?      KK

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nc shows anyone????

cecliff@vt.edu Mon Dec 13 19:26:32 1993



how many people are planning on going to the n.c shows in charlotte and
winston-salem?

anyone-anyone?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
something or said something, but you didn't and it means you'll never know 
for sure what the outcome might have been.  Those are the feelings that stay 
with someone, not the reality of events, but the thoughts of the choices 
that led to them.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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dave matthews nye run...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Dec 13 20:32:43 1993

ah yes, time for the second annual dmb new year's eve run...
not quite the hoo-ha that the phish nye run is, but at any rate,
by the grace of god, i've stumbled upon the financing to invest
$40 in a single dmb show(and at this point, all under-age people
are going "MUST BE NICE!!!!":), but will more than likely be
showing up by myself.  so howz about a small net gathering for
a small net.  i'm not talkin' any bar hoppin extravaganza; i'm
just looking to meet a few of you, so drop me a line, and tell me
that you'll be hangin' out near tapers station...
speaking of tapers station, i taped last nights show.
let me just say SWEEEEEEEEEEEET mother of mary.  dave showed up late,
around 8:00, and couldn't take the stage until 8:30(due to some mix-up
with a delayed plane), but when he and tim came out, it was just a
little to cool for me.  my heart started palypitating(sp?-is that even
a word?) and the room started spinning.
try playing guitar for 5 years, busting your ass just to be able to
kick out some decent rhythm lines, then go see tim reynolds play
an impromptu slide lead over your favorite dmb song(so much to say),
and see if _you_ don't feel humble.
he even turned the newish goodbye song into something way cool.
and i also saw the most phenomenal ants of my life.  let's try to
remember some other tunes(in no particular order):
typical situation, one sweet world, tripping billies, pay for what you
get, recently, four tim reynolds originals(check out "stream"), minarets
i'll back you up, qlandg, warehouse, ants, lie in our graves, christmas,
so much to say, angel from montgomery (2nd of encore and show stopper),
and some others.  i know there were some other netters there, as well
as three dat's and i think 6 or 7 analog decks, so finding a master won't
be that hard.
well, that's enough for now.... talk to ya'll later.
ps--this will more than likely be my last post afore i leave, so happy
ho-ho.
rick thompson
214 lyons ave
col hts va 23834
(804) 526-5321   (i'm a bitch to catch at home, so leave a message)
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Irving Plaza, How many?

budkee@unvax.union.edu Tue Dec 14 00:10:31 1993

How many people, and how crowded was Irving Plaza when DMB played
there.  Someone has to have a reasonable estimate. 


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stuff

gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Dec 14 00:58:22 1993


In regards to equipment, Dave uses a Gibson SST Chet Atkins signature
model.  Boyd uses the GK to power two 12" Mesa/Boogie speakers enclosed in
one 1x12 cab with a metal grate, sometimes called RoadReady but I don't
think that this is the type here (you can tell by the covering of the cab
itself).  Boyd also uses a Boss pedal for reverb, don't know the model
number other than it is a digital reverb, grey , with blue knobs.  As for
the bassist, he uses a Warwick bass, very nice if you know basses, I
think, for example, that I've seen his model here in a store in Nashville
for $3000+.  And that's only a 4-string.  The more strings, the more
money, but that doesn't matter because he only has 4.  Anyway, As for his
rack, I didn't really notice anything there important other than I know
that his cabs are SWR and am guessing that his bass power amplifier and
preamp are the same brand.  This is also VERY high-end stuff.  I think
that Carter uses DW pedals, but don't know about that.  Cymbal brands can
be seen.  Have no idea about the saxes or violin.  That's all I got for
that stuff.
As for tab, I think that tabbing his songs might turn out to be pretty
hard.  I've tried to learn even the simple ones (not naming names here, of
course) and have had considerable trouble.  I think that if you had a
speed adjuster it wouldn't be that bad, but Dave is good, although he
rarely solos, I've heard him do it and he's good at that too.  Amazing
sound he gets out of that damn guitar.
What is the subscriber form, or somthing like that?  Also, in caps for
your attention, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE TREE?  Are we supposed to send
tapes to someone, wait for the tapes, what?  I've been on a lot of trees
over the past 2 years and this one seemed organized at first, even with
the limbs, but no directions.  Help, don't complain that nobody's doing
anything because I for one don't know what to do.
That's all.  Graham

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halloween(yet another hmo) and jeff(same)...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Dec 14 10:15:01 1993

grass roots band.  jeff is doing the best he can, and he's used
to dealing with trax and flood zone.  i have a feeling that it's
going to take just a bit to get used to changing the set up with
each night that goes by.
i'd also like to say that i pretty much disagree with kerry.
if anybody wants a detailed(and lengthy) explanation, no prob,
but i've got two exams starting in half an hour.
rick
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*         the guy at american university on dec 28 who looks         *
*                       surprisingly normal.                         *
*              walk up to me and say "are you gregg?"                *
*         and i'll say "no, he's the guy in the floppy green         *
*                 hat with all the cheezy buttons.                   *
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dave's crazy sound...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Dec 14 12:41:29 1993

try plugging in an electric acoustic guitar, particularly the chet
atkins that dave plays, and turn it up as loud as you can.  you'll
find the sound to be remarkably similar.  it's the only possible way
along with others.  it's more than possible to crank that guitar as
loud as it can somewhere on stage, then tone down the signal it produces
back at the soundboard.  he might use a little compression, but
i'm not sure.  i know he plugs into these little blue boxes, that are
about the size of any effects pedal, but they don't have any pedals
on them.  equalizers?  who knows...
another thing is the effect that not having a hallow body guitar
produces.  go back and listen to satellite on the cd. he plays that
on a hallow body acoustic guitar, and it actually sounds like a
normal guitar, aside from the fact the the satellite rift doesn't
sound normal in and of itself.  (check out #34, whoa)
also, what happened to boyd's wa-wa pedal.  that, actually, was the
first thing i noticed about the dave matthews band.  not that they had
a fiddler, but that they had a fiddler who used delay and wa-wa on it.
======================================================================
*         the guy at american university on dec 28 who looks         *
*                       surprisingly normal.                         *
*              walk up to me and say "are you gregg?"                *
*         and i'll say "no, he's the guy in the floppy green         *
*                 hat with all the cheezy buttons.                   *
======================================================================

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show times in nc

cecliff@vt.edu Tue Dec 14 14:25:54 1993


that's all. 
what time should i show up?
when does the band take the stage?

fly on...

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Winter Dates....again

jcrother Tue Dec 14 15:52:51 1993

Here are the Dec and Jan dates again.  A couple of people have been asking
for them so I decided to post them again.
alex Crothers
-------------------------------------------------

12/27 private party  -  Charlotte, NC
12/28  Teradactyl Club, Charlotte, NC
12/29  Ziggy's  -  Winston-Salem, NC
12/31  Marriott Hotel  -  Richmond, VA
1/3      Variety Playhouse  -  Atlanta, GA
1/6       Ice Arena  -  Vail, CO  (with the Samples)
1/7       Snowmass Conference Center, Aspen, CO (with the Samples)
1/8        Double Diamond  -  Aspen, CO
1/9        Garton's  -  Vail, CO
1/12       Josha's  -  Breckenridge, CO
1/13      The Inferno  -  Stemaboat Springs, CO
1/15      Fox Theatre  -  Boulder, CO
1/16      Fox Theatre  -  Boulder, CO

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The Old Tree that was Stunted

Daniel_Gold@brown.edu Tue Dec 14 19:54:21 1993

Hey now...

do any of you netters even still remember that tree that we had going on
right when this net started up?  the one that made us all feel that this
network was really gonna be active and do us all some good?  well, i am
aware that many of you have been heartily disappointed that no branch of
the tree has grown your way.  i myself am very disappointed that a month
and a half has passed with not a word about the tree.  i was expecting
those tapes long ago.  as some of you know, i am in charge of the sampler
ESMERELDA on the HORDEnet, and i was counting on those tapes so that DMB
could be a part of that project.  i have now learned that that is a
hopeless hope and i have sought other means to aquire an excellent tape
(thanks, mike f.) to use on the Sampler.  nevertheless, i did not sign up
for the tree for no reason.  i still want those tapes.  and there are still
many of you who want your tapes.

i got in touch with Ellis of Lemuria, the administrator of the tree.  Ellis
tells me that 14 tapes were made long ago, and that many of them have
spread to the parents, but a number of those tapes are still sitting in
Ellis' abode, apparently due to some miscommunications.  it seems that two
of the volunteer-parents disappeared, and another two have yet to send
Ellis their snail mail addresses.  I do not think that that is behavior
becoming to one who volunteered to do a service to us all.  Therefore, i
urge all parents who have not yet recieved their tapes to get in touch
with...

ellis of lemuria jeg5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu

..., the adminisrator. (i know it is rude to give out other people's email
addresses, but ellis' address is already known to the whole net, especially
those on the tree whom this concerns). moreover, someone must account for
those two missing parents, or all the leaves under them will fall onto the
cyberground only to be raked away by disappointment.  so, i further urge
you all to consider volunteering to take over those positions.  if anyone
out there would be willing and able to dub about 5 tapes, please get in
touch with ellis and volunteer your services.  ellis did not ask or
authorize me to request this, but i am doing it independently because i am
very interested in seeing this tree grow for us all.  the net is an ideal
place for grassroots action, so i am asking everyone to DO SOMETHING to get
this thing growing again.

i apoligize for the length of this.  i hope it will end the almost daily
messages saying "hey, what happened to the tree?"...

with love, daniel

--------gnome boy-------greenfling----

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Good luck on finals...

blakec@wyvern.com Wed Dec 15 13:38:57 1993

Hi..I just finished my last final, and I wanted to wish everyone good luck
on theirs.

bitch to un-subscribe everyone.  Should we just limit mail to life or death
situations?  I know I'll only be able to check my mail once or twice from
12/17 to 12/27, and the way minarets has been filling my box, that may not
be enough.

Exams are over, I'm on my back
staring up at the ceiling
so I take a drink, sit back RELAX
smoke my mind, makes me feel better for a while.

Hooray!

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Dave Matthews Band net

@mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu Wed Dec 15 14:40:01 1993

Would you please subscribe me

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there it was . . .

btanen@husc.harvard.edu Wed Dec 15 16:28:48 1993

Welcome to the net shawn berry!
(you have the distinction of being the first person to
send a subscribe/unsubscribe to the whole net)

In other news, I was talking a while back with a friend of mine who lives in
another freshman dorm here.  It turns out that one of HIS roommates is
form Virginia Beach VA.  This kid worked during the summer of '93 at . . .
THE PEPPERMINT BEACH CLUB (or something to that effect).  I have set 1
from the DMB show, 6/12/93, where they do Sweet Home Alabama -- Ants
Marching.  Nice.

Anyway, he worked the soundboard for that show (what a weird
coincidence, right?).  So, when I found out that the band was coming back
to the club over thanksgiving (the 27th?) I told him.  Well, he went to
check out the show.  I also asked him to see if he could get me a tape, or
a full tape of the June show.  He said things were very different. 
"They've got like all these sound guys and they weren't letting anyone
even near the sound board."  When I told him DMB had signed a major-label
deal, he said "They must've gotten a big advance from their record
company."
Hmm.  Well, I'll confess that Geordie has a way of exaggerating things.  I
was wondering if DMB has been traveling with a larger crew recently, and
if anyone was at the P.B.Club show last month.

See y'all.

--Ben

------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------

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The Tree

jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Wed Dec 15 17:22:21 1993

Keep in mind that 9 copies of this tree have been mailed. Two
copies were in branch leader;s hands before the tree was posted.
I'll be mailing pholks independantly, but PLEASE complete your
volunteered obligations.

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Re: Dave Matthews Band net

blakec@wyvern.com Wed Dec 15 20:16:31 1993

 
 Would you please subscribe me
 


-- 
something about never having this happen. :-)

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Re: MINARETS digest 53

@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:ST002314@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Thu Dec 16 00:05:00 1993

a friend from fordham just told me that she saw a billboard in downtown nyc for
"remember two things."  who woulda thunk it?  dave

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Re: MINARETS digest 54

jcrother Thu Dec 16 11:47:23 1993

 bitch to un-subscribe everyone.  Should we just limit mail to life or death
 situations?  I know I'll only be able to check my mail once or twice from
 12/17 to 12/27, and the way minarets has been filling my box, that may not
 be enough.

This sounds like a good idea.  It seemed to work over Thanksgiving but
then again that was only five days and for this Holiday I'll be away from
the computer for a month.  I'd recommend digestifying the list and asking
everyone with Internet accesss at home/work to keep messages to a minimum.
subscribe/unsubscribe anyone manually, however, as most of you know
listproc can do it automatically it's just a matter of sending the correct
message.  So if anyone asked to be subscribed/digestified over the Net over
break you all with Internet access will have to take care of it.

To subscribe send the message, "subscribe minarets YOUR NAME" to
listproc@moose.uvm.edu

To digestify send the message, "set mianrets mail digest" to
listproc@moose.uvm.edu

I hope that takes care of everything.  Anyone have any
suggestions/problems? 

alex Crothers

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Re: MINARETS digest 54

jcrother Thu Dec 16 11:50:12 1993

 Hmm.  Well, I'll confess that Geordie has a way of exaggerating things.  I
 was wondering if DMB has been traveling with a larger crew recently, and
 if anyone was at the P.B.Club show last month.
 
 See y'all.
 
 --Ben

I was at that show.  The crew wasn't any larger than it has been in the
past couple of months.  Jeff was soing sound as normal and a bunch of us
were hanging out on the side of the soundboard taping.  I didn't notice an
excess of DMB guys.  They were, however, alot of PBC guards all over tha
place.  Not sure what he was talking about.

alex Crothers

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bye y'all!

Daniel_Gold@brown.edu Thu Dec 16 12:41:51 1993

who will be the first to send UNSUBSCRIBE to the whole net?  (now, you all
read that, so don't go out doing it thinking you're cool or something!)

a friend from fordham just told me that she saw a billboard in downtown nyc for
"remember two things."  who woulda thunk it?  dave

yeah, and i really can't believe dave is naked on the cover of the new
Rolling Stone.  well, i hope we all get a chance to congratulate him when
he returns from the first DMB tour behind the iron curtain.  25 arena
concerts, including 4 free shows on red square!  wow!  hey does anyone out
there have the box set of DMB that contains all 19 of the singles?  (just
kidding -- but billboards, already?  wow. does that mean that RCA will be
putting ads in major music magazines as well?)

well, i am leaving soon, and i just wanted to wish y'all a happy winter.  i
am remaining subscribed while i am away (for over a month) so everyone keep
your fingers x-ed that i do not overload my account.

hoping to see DMB atlanta 1/3/93... hoping to see y'all there...  "you and
me and all our friends"....

love,daniel

-------gnome boy-----------greenfling hibernating--------

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Re: Clarifications

kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Thu Dec 16 15:22:07 1993


When I said Dave says "Are you satisfied with fucking (something or other
up),"  the parentheses were there for a reason; what is in the parentheses is
undecipherable, but has to do with the fact that someone, or something is
fucking him up (or over). This words in parentheses were not meant to be read
as is.

When I said he said "Are you satisfied with this set" this was a JOKE! 
Lighten up.   

For all you who are die-hard advocates of the fact that Halloween is about
that the word "love" is not mentioned ONCE, though he does talk about
monsters terrorizing him, which leads me to the conclusion that this song IS
about a nightmare, or was born out of one.
************  ********* *************       **********     ***********
Boyd's black wah-wah violin that he used on Dancing Nancies broke once, and
he never bothered to get it fixed.  (So as to not offend anyone if this
statement is incorrect, I feel obligated to say that I did not hear it
straight from Boyd).
***************************************************
Don't judge yourelves too harsh my friends  --Neil
***************************************************

I think that the person who made fun of this guy is really cool (not to
mention funny.)  ------Do you really think this guy subscribed straight to
the net knowing that it was bad?  Good to make him feel at home.

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Song id?

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Fri Dec 17 00:16:11 1993






Baby, you can make me happy
Oh you can make me happy
Oh you can make me happy

and 

It's too soon for me 
Too soon for me to say goodbye
goodbye 
goodbye

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lyrics file

vastolj@alleg.EDU Fri Dec 17 20:33:01 1993

Can I have the updated version of the lyrics file.  If there is a better way to  
go about doing this could someone let me know.  I probably forgot.  Thanks, joe

sorry for such a waste of bandwidth

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DMB Tree

klong@sura.net Sat Dec 18 08:10:57 1993


I have received my tapes from my parent.  I am willing to make
a few copies ONLY TO THOSE WHO SIGNED UP ON THE TREEE AND
WHO ARE WILLING TO MAKE COPIES FOR OTHERS SIGNED UP ON THE TREE.

I have the original signup post.  If you signed up and did not
get your tapes AND you are willing to make tapes for others,
send me mail.  The way I'd like to do it is have you send me
your tapes (2 100 minute tapes) and I'll dub copies and send
them back with the postage you provided.  I'll take names from the
original signup to be your responsibility.  

You should check with the folks I provide you to make sure that
they didn't get tapes from another source and are still interested
(or that the e-mail address is still good).  If for any reason
an address I provide isn't working, I'll give you another name on
the list to tape for.

This is the only way I can think of to keep it simple and not
re-do the whole thing.  If someone has as better idea or knows
something about the tree that I don't know, send me mail.
I won't be using the tapes I got from my parent to make the copies.
I'm going to dub a copy and use that as the master.

klong

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HERE'S SOME TAB

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sat Dec 18 17:08:16 1993



towards posting tabulature for Dave Matthews Band music.  Here's some 
bits and pieces of songs that I have accumulated.  I can make no 
assurances towards their correctness (I am more sure about some than
others; I'll try to indicate this).  If anyone has anything to correct/
add/comment on, I would greatly appreciate this.  Most of this has been
gleaned from listening to various tapes.  The position of the hand on the
neck was learned from observing Dave in action.  From there, the notes 
came from listening to the music.

good idea, so let's all take the time to contribute.  I know typing tab
in is a pain in the ass, but it will be greatly appreciated.  Take it a 
song at a time or something.  Since most of these songs are incomplete,
take some of this and run with it.  If anyone thinks it is a good idea,
I would be willing to be the compiler of a Tab File (sort of like the 
lyrics file) to which people could subscribe and which would be posted
periodically.  What do you think?
etc, in a DOS file.  However, for those of you who might want to try it,
there is a program called Chord Magic located at OAK.oakland.edu (pub/
msdos/music/crdmgc10.zip  ???) that can output a kind of pseudo-tab by
entering the fingering of real chords and using "one-note" chords for 
regular notes.  Each chord can than dumped to a dos file using the "Dump"
command.  Each "chord" is then superpositioned on a line of tab.  The 
only problem is that the program tends to leave a lot of space between 
notes, but this can be fixed by deleting the space.  One thing the 
program is great for is naming funky chords.  

(Note #2:  All of the following songs assume that the song's 
rhythm and patterns are available to the reader.  Therefore, the
tab is greatly simplified.  Also, as anyone knows, Dave does not 
play any song the same way twice.  A great deal of fill is assumed
between the tab shown here -- the songs would sound pretty lame if
they were played exactly as entered.  This sort of stuff is easy 
to pick up off a recording.  I'd be here all break if I wanted to 
enter all of it : )

LIE IN OUR GRAVES
-----------------

E--2--2-2----2--2-2-------------0--0-0-0-0-|
B--3--3-3----3--3-3-------------2--2-2-2-0-|
G--2--2-2----4--4-4--------2----2--2-2-2-0-|
D--0--0-0----4--4-4--0-2-4---4--2--2-2-2-0-|
A---------4--2--2-2-------------0--0-0-0-0-|
E------------------------------------------|

E--2--2-2----2--2-2----3-0-3-|
B--3--3-3----3--3-3----0-2-0-|
G--2--2-2----4--4-4----0-2-0-|   repeat
D--0--0-0----4--4-4-0--0-2-0-|
A---------4--2--2-2----2-0-2-|
E----------------------3---3-|

and the little bit after "and I'm blown away"...

E-3-3-3------------0-0-0-3-3-3       -|
B-2-2-2------------1-1-1-0-0-0       -|
G-3-3-3-----2------2-2-2-0-0-0       -|
D-0-0-0-0-4---4-0--2-2-2-0-0-0 fill  -|
A------------------0-0-0-2-2-2       -|
E------------------------3-3-3       -|

B  5          7  7 7 7 5  7
G  5   slide   7  7 7 7 5  7      Ab  Bb  C  etc.
D  5          7  7 7 7 5  7
hit by sliding up/down to them.  Throw in a lot of 
mute picks as well.  This accounts for that sort of rough
sound Dave gets)

SATELLITE (intro only)
---------

E--------------------------|  There is probably an easier
B--------------------------|  place on the neck to play 
G--------------------------|  this, but this is where Dave
D-----9---7----6---4---7---|  does, so...
A---7------------7---7---7-|
E-5-----5---5--------------|

TWO STEP
--------

Intro is just Dm (barred at 5th fret)


Em(barre 7)  D(bar 5)  G(barre 3)  C(barre 3)  
D(barre 5) C(barre 3)


G  C  D  slide upD  slide upC  G   repeat 4 times

I'LL BACK YOU UP
----------------

I'm just going to list the chord changes, not the picking...just
listen to it and you'll get it.


E--0----0------2----0--|    E--0---0------1----0--|
B--2----0------2----0--|    B--2---0------1----0--|
G--2----4------2----1--|    G--2---0------2----1--|
D--2----2------4----2--|    D--2---2------3----2--|
A--0----0------4----2--|    A--0---0------3----2--|
E-------4------2----0--|    E------3------1----0--|

ANTS MARCHING
-------------
E--2-----------------3-----------------|
B--3-----------------0-----------------|
G--2-----------------0-----------------|
D--0------4-----4----0------5-----5----|
A-----4-5---4-5---5--2--4-5---4-5---5--|
E--------------------3-----------------|


F#m   D   G  GAG  F#m   D   GAG   F#m  D...........

ANGEL FROM MONTGOMERY ( BY JOHN PRINE)
---------------------
add lots of suspensions and picking

G  C  G  C  G  C  D  G
G F C G :|

ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER  (BY BOB DYLAN)
------------------------
look in any songbook...people play it in different keys anyway

PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET
--------------------

picked power chords...sounds like a pretty simple progression?

SEEK UP
------
main part is a D power chord  7  down to C  5  and back

with an A 7 thrown in in the "fall back again" part

A Bm C D 

BEST OF WHAT'S AROUND
---------------------

slide up neck to ~5 fret
Am (bar5)  C(top 4 strings of barre 8)  D(barre 5) G(barre 3) 
C          Am                           G          D

repeat   (don't know the rest)

TYPICAL SITUATION
-----------------
verse
Em (barre at 7th fret)  C(barre 8th fret) 

chorus
G       F      ?   ?  ?  ?  


correct(I didn't have a guitar handy typing this in) 
or add, please let me know.  What do you think of the        
file idea?  Have a good break (to those of you already gone,
I'll repost it in January)!

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song id, cont.

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sat Dec 18 17:12:14 1993


second one, which had a lot of "goodbye, goodbye" etc. in it was mistaken by
several people to be the relatively new "Quick Lay and Goodbye" or whatever. 
That's a good guess, but it's not that song.  Here's some more of the lyrics
to make it a little clearer.  Thanks,

"It's gracious of you 
to hold your arms, throw your charms around me
It's gracious of you
to lead me by the hand.......

By my side, rolling wild 
Breathing thunder

Come again, come again, please
and save me too
No need to say goodbye, goodbye
no need to say goodbye, goodbye"


The song is slow and soft..

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NYE setlist????

blakec@infi.net Thu Jan 6 11:15:44 1994

Sorry to break the ban on holiday mail.  Hopefully someone is still
subscribed.  I was unable to attend NYE (DMB) because of Phish tour and I
dying to know what they played.  Can someone please post the setlist?  Also,
I'd like to get a tape of the show soon...I've got the whole Phish Hoiliday
tour (crispy, AKG mikes...) to trade, plus lots of Dave.
Happy New YEAR!

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shawn's mystery song

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Jan 10 14:31:47 1994

this is pretty much for shawn, but i figgered everybody would want
that song your talking about, shawn, is the new song in it's
earliest stage.  listen to the part of the new song where he's
singing "goodbye..." and then compare the chord progression to
your mystery song.  you'll find that your mystery song is just
that same chord progression, repeated dozens of times.  he used
to play that mystery song during his acoustic intros at the flood
zone, and claimed both times i heard it that he was making it up
on the spot, which i don't doubt in the slightest.
rick

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nye setlist

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Jan 10 14:52:01 1994

set I                                 set II
satellite                          ants marching
song that jane likes               dancing nancies
one sweet world                    minarets
tripping billies                   jimi thing
lie in our graves                  seek up
granny                             pay for what you get
#36                                true reflections
what would you say                   (tri poetry rap)
some where along the way the band decided they'd break their
most recent tradition of playing straight, so it proved to be
interesting at times.  overall, i can say i've seen better
shows, but this was still pretty intense.  the dancing nancies
kicked some serious ass, and the tripping billies was one of the
best i've ever heard.
i'm the only netter who got a copy, but i gave subscription
instructions to 2 other tapers.  i can't copy this show for
anyone, because i don't have any way to dub.  (not to mention
that i didn't get that oh so kick ass dancing nancies).
rick
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu

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New Dates

James.Dawson@MVS.UDEL.EDU Tue Jan 11 16:50:45 1994



a friend's (James Dawson) account.

anything since Minarets is almost completely automated.




want to make her repeat everything I wasn't sure of.  Only a couple were
totallyunclear after getting off the phone with her.  For instance, the place
in Springfield Missouri.  I'm not sure if I caught that right or not but it
seems a little off.  Maybe someone out there in Internet land who knows what
that club's/college's/bar's real name is. The other one as the Ivory Tusk in
Alabama.  I couldn't catch the spelling of the town it's in but I'm sure
anyone from that area knows what the hell it is.


dates to Bruce Wilner.  I believe his Email address is bwilner@colorado.edu or
something like that.  He runs Horde.Net and needs these dates for the
Horde.Net file on DMB.  Thanks in advance.

Alex Crothers

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SEAWA@VAX.RHODES.EDU Tue Jan 11 19:27:50 1994

subscribe

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DMB and Colorado

CPI9238@RITVAX.BITNET Tue Jan 11 23:17:21 1994

Well, My brother just came back from a ski trip from aspen. He was telling me
Aparently they have a crowd there already.
Craig

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more happy mments about nye...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Jan 12 14:18:27 1994

for the sake of boredom, and giving minarets netter's something to
read, i thought i'd share some more personal expriences from nye.
first of all, during the show, i bumped into one of my hallmates
from school last year, and in his drunken stupor he nearly knocked
tapers station over.  so i nearly knocked his head off, but we caught
ourselves in time.
overall, security was a joke(unlike phish at bender arean--p-shaw...).
if i hadn't had the curse of an active set of car keys, i would have
been toasted beyond all recognition, and in general, i have _never_
in my entire life seen that many thouroughly obliterated people in
one place at one time.  it was a beautiful site;).
after the show, i tracked down chris tetselli to get my hands on a
coupla tapes, and he invited me upstairs.  this is where it got
really strange.  what happens when you stuff 30 people into a marriot
elevator meant to hold about 15?  uh, it breaks.  we were aiming for
16th, but someone had hit all 18 buttons, and starting about on the 5th
floor, the elevator started missing floors.  the doors would open and
we'd find ourselves stuck b/w floors.  it was pretty distressing, and
when it would finally open out onto an actual floor, 10 more people
would freak out and push there way off the elevator.  the elevator
finally dumped me and clare off on 18 and we walked back down.
after we hung out in chris's room for a while, we headed back out,
and while we were waiting for the elevator, leroi appeared out of
nowhere to get a pepsi(lord knows what he wanted a pepsi for in his
condition...).
anyway, i know this was pretty useless info, but minarets net has been
so dead this week, with only about three schools back in session,
i just thought i'd share...
talk to ya'll later...
======================================================================
rick thompson                      stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you
harrisonburg va 2807               ever wanted to know about the dave
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"could i have been....the king of diarrhea?"--djm, 11-9-93
======================================================================

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get this net going...question for Rick.

blakec@infi.net Wed Jan 12 14:47:08 1994

Welcome back to school/work everyone.  Happy New Year!  I hope everyone did
something interesting over break.
NYE in Richmond sounds like it went well...Worchester was crazy also.

Ok, does anyone know the name of the women that sings with Charlotsville
All-Stars, Alma and Tim/Tr3 on occasion?  Now that DMB isn't playing every
week in C-ville and Richmond do you think an incarnation of the All-stars
will take over their slot?

"Could I have been..Mugged somewhere in Norfolk" DM 11/26/93 Peppermint
Beach Club

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nye, chicgo

bobgee@merle.acns.nwu.edu Wed Jan 12 19:52:04 1994

To all those who plan on seeing Dave in Chicago on Jan. 21, 22:
According to the bar they're playing at, Schuba's, DMB is officially only
playing on the 21st. The show on the 22nd is contingent on the 21st show
selling out. The bar only holds 140 people so I can't imagine it not filling
up (I'll be bringing along about 20 folks with me). But plan on going to the
Fri. nite (21st) if you're going to one only just in case. 
I got the chance to see DMB in Winston-Salem and in Richmond over break. Both
good shows, although similar set lists. Ziggy's was a really cool bar and a
great place to see DMB, but NYE was a bit of a let down for me.  BOB IS WASTED
RIGHT NOW

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Re: MINARETS digest 62

jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Thu Jan 13 19:24:35 1994

140 PEOPLE??? Man... that show's gonna rock...

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Shameless Grovel

SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU Thu Jan 13 21:33:29 1994


Well, I only have that one FZ show on the 8th to trade but I'm looking for a 
copy of the DM/Tim Reynolds Acoustic Duet show from the 12th in 
Charlottesville.  Anyone?  Please?  

Thanks,
Reid

SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU

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Tour Dates

S975014@UMSLVMA.BITNET Fri Jan 14 10:58:58 1994

Could someone please post the dates of Dave's current Midwest tour.  I know
he'll be in Chicago next weekend.  Where else will he be?
Miles Abrams

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dancing nancies quotes

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Fri Jan 14 11:52:03 1994

if any of you have any great dancing nancies quotes, could you send
them to me, along with the date and venue of the quote?  i want
compile a list of them for everyone to laugh at.
or put it in the faq, or both?  for now i'm putting it in the faq
in the songs section.
also, could the person (or anyone) whose managed to keep all (or
as many as possible) of the digests get in touch with me?
======================================================================
rick thompson                      stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"could i have been....the king of diarrhea?"--djm, 11-9-93
======================================================================

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The Authority

blakec@infi.net Sat Jan 15 16:10:56 1994

Nothing much seems to be happening on Horde.net so I'll post this here
instead.  The Authority is playing here in Norfolk on Jan. 27th and I'm
wondering if they'll allow me a soundboard patch.  Has anyone taped these
guys before.  When they opened for DMB I only taped DMB and I think Jeff was
doing sound.  If anyone is near the Norfolk VA area, come on out.

Dave.

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tablature

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Jan 16 15:27:57 1994

before any aspiring musicians attempt to translate this info, i'd
just like to say that i pretty much suck at transcribing music.
most of these are pretty basic and it'll be up to you to figure
out and fill in what's missing.
1)use a lot of muting and sliding.
2)learn to use your pinky finger when you can't figure out how to
3)use hallowed out chords.  dave lives for using chords that are
--------------------------------------------------
Jimi Thing
-                                   0
-                   9     9 9       2     5
-             9     9     9 9       2     6^7
-             9     9^11  9 9       2  7  7
-      7      9^11                  0
-  7^9   9 7                   12\
"if you could keep me floating, just for a while you..."
-
- 2
- 2   X  X  X
- 2   X  X  X
- X   X  X  X
- 5   3  2  1
- 0               0                  0
- 0               0                  2
- 1               1                  2    X    X    X
- 2               2                  2    X    X    X
- 2               2                  X    X    X    X
- 0               4                  5    3    2    1
and the bridges are just E and A.
--------------------------------------------------
-
-
-          7                    7
-      11  9                11  9
-   9      10            9      10  10 9 7
-7                    7
-
-
-X X X X X X X X 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7  X X X X X X X X 7 7 7 X X X
-X X X X 1111X X 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9  X X X X 1111X X 9 9 9 X X X
-X X 9 9 X X X X 1010101010101010 X X 9 9 X X X X 101010109 7
-7 7 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X  7 7 X X X X X X X X X X X X
the idea here, though, is not to set out trying to play the second
one.  just start basic, listen to song, play along with the song,
and work on developing the fingering, which should come naturally
as you work with it.  the right hand never stops or changes during
the almost the entire song.  up and down, really fast.
-
-
-
-7          7 7   3          7 7    7         7    3           7
-
-5          7 7   7          7 7  4/5         7    7           7
this is also really simplified, due to my inability to transcribe
(this song is my second effort at it.)
-
-
-
-9    9   11   9             5   7
-     7   9    7
-7                           3   5
------------------------------------------------------
SO MUCH TO SAY
this really shows my inablility to translate right hand rhythm patterns
but it should get you started.  i also know that this isn't perfect by
opening riff (and prominent throughout the song):
-
-      5     5                  5     5
-      5 4/5 6                  5 4/5 6
-      5     7                  5     7
-    7       0                7       0
-3/5                      3/5
(i don't know the exact chord progression)
-
-                                           5     5              5     5
-       5 4 2             10                5 4/5 6              5 4/5 6
-                 5       10       7        5     7              5     7
-    7          3         x      5        7                    7
-3/5          1     1/10  10   3      3/5                  3/5
A D G D
played using standard bar chords
---------------------------------------------------
have fun.
======================================================================
rick thompson                      stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you
harrisonburg va 22807               ever wanted to know about the dave
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"could i have been....the king of diarrhea?"--djm, 11-9-93
======================================================================

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Netters List

STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Jan 16 16:36:47 1994

This is the Minarets Net Netters list as of an update made 1/16/94.  For the
most part, these are the entry forms as they were recieved.  Slight editing has
been done in some cases for the sake of space.  This list is compiled and
maintained by Gregg Carrier (stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu).  Please mail any
changes, additions, questions or comments to Gregg.  This list can only be
complete with everyone's help so if you haven't already, think about filling
out a form like those below.
==============================================================================
==============================================================================
PHone # (or numbers and dates/times you'll be there): 804.484.6046
============================================================================
============================================================================
James Buchanan Cogbill
COGBILLJ@GUVAX.ACC.GEORGETOWN.EDU
Box 3247  Georgetown University  Washington, D.C.  20057-3247
(202) 784-8153
First saw DMB open for Toad the Wet Sprocket at William and Mary Hall.
Finally, I've always had somewhat of an insiders edge on the band due
=========================================================================
Sex (if not obvious by Name): Female
Personal Description
Favorite DMB song (to date, subject to change I'm sure): "Quick Lay and
=======================================================================
School Phone #:  (703) 463-1827
Home Phone #:    (516) 265-9212
=======================================================================
phone # 708-864-6461
to wear blue A-Basin baseball hat( nfPD&=(eGbm(kCnP6pO)CG       _]. Normally
fairly mild-mannered, but love to get into Dave shows
Once I saw them live, I was hooked. I've discovered the downside of
appreciating DMB's music is that now when I listen to other music, I'm always
thinking it just isn't as good as Dave (WSP and Phish are the only other
band's that can still keep my attention).
12-29-93. Me and a buddy each drank one of those big bottles of MadDog in the
car before entering Ziggy's. It made the show that much better.
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
PHone # (or numbers and dates/times you'll be there): (203)975-6320
show... 9/19/93
P.S.  Have a nice day.
============================================================================
Brett Horton
Phone #   Home 203 248 4148
Misc. comments   I will always miss Peter.
===============================================================================
Phone #: (or numbers and dates/times you'll be there) (716) 582-2651
Always (I am stuck here)
===========================================================================
Phone #: (or numbers and dates/times you'll be there) 804-295-4838
=============================================================================
Brian Lipman                    Brian Lipman
Allison 3002                    325 E. 57th Street  #6A
1820 Chicago Avenue             New York, NY 10022
Evanston, Il  60201-3856        (212) 755-1374
(708) 332-8975
NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO WRITE HERE!!!!!!!)
============================================================================
I was first introduced to DMB over a year ago at the live arts
show down near the mall. Since then, I have been collecting
bootlegs and doing my darndest to get into Trax on tuesdays
====================================================================
PHone # (or numbers and dates/times you'll be there): 804-296-4628
=============================================================================
Bill Phelps
phelpswil@urvax.bitnet   (why isn't everyone else's address so simple?
UFA 3087 University of Richmond, VA 23173
(804) 281-7979  (after 3 pm)
=============================================================================
==============================================================================
previous bias against them due to stephan's dad constantly telling
me how good they were...
music is key
carter makes me dizzy
consant improv that just plain works for me
etc..
=========================================================================
=============================================================================
PHone # (or numbers and dates/times you'll be there):  914-938-5221

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Some Sad News

jjthomps@slate.Mines.Colorado.EDU Sun Jan 16 17:04:09 1994

Hello fellow netters,

For a couple of months now, I have enjoyed reading up on the Dave Matthews
Band through minarets because we don't get to hear much out here in
Colorado.  But, I'm afraid I must be the bearer of some sad news.  Last
night I went to Boulder to see the band at the Fox theatre, and while in
line, a girl behind us asked us if we knew why the Samples were playing.
This was strange because we had spoken with Dave after a show last Tuesday,
and he had mentioned that they would be having the Samples sit in with them
on Sunday night's show, but we didn't expect to see them on Saturday.  So
we went up to the front and asked.  It seems that Dave's sister was killed
in a car accident, and Dave had cancelled the shows.  The Samples had
stepped in to host the shows, featuring Boyd and Leroi, with proceeds going
to help Dave's now orphaned niece and nephew.  Last night's show sold out,
and I suspect tonight's will too, but it is a shame that this happened to a
band that was just making a lot of friends out here.

I believe that the band is taking donations at their mailing list address,
but I'm not sure.  I also am not sure about what this does to the scheduled
tour dates for the next couple of weeks.  I've only been listening to the
band since this summer, but they all seem like very likeable guys, so it is
very sad that this happened.  If anyone gets to speak with Dave or the band
soon, send them our best from out West.

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DMB 10/26/93 Tree POSTING!

dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Sun Jan 16 18:36:13 1994


Greetings Minaretheads -

Finally, at long last, here is the final tree posting for The Dave
Matthews Band show in Charlottesville on 10/26/93.  Sorry for all
of the delays, I won't go in to specific reasons for the delay (not
that anyone would care, anyway).

To anyone who hasn't participated in a tree of this nature (sorry to 
those who are very familiar with this), here's how it works (an 
example using the first bracket):
1) I send Jim Pollock the copies of 10/26 that I have made for him.

2) Bill Shaw, Jamie Treworgy, Steve Mayer, and Sami Kitmitto contact

3) Rob and Ed contact Bill, and arrange to send blanks or trades,

In a nutshell, contanct the person directly to the left of your
name (your "parent") as soon as possible, and work out whatever 
details you need.

Any questions, email me (Dave Forbis) at dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu

Please don't ask me to add you to the tree!  There will be over 70
copies of this show floating around, and it should be easy to get a
copy.

Again, any questions, problems, lost parents, email me.






JimmieRow@aol.com (Jim Pollock)

tjr2g@virginia.edu (Timothy J. Richter)

abz@world.std.com (Andy Zaff)

Edoherty@Macalstr.edu (Eric Doherty)

dalton@isidis.colorado.edu (Lizard Man)

maclin@brahms.udel.edu (Doug Maclin)

kmk4g@virginia.edu (Kerry Kriger)

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Tape Offer

BH7N@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Sun Jan 16 19:23:49 1994

I haven't heard anyone grovel for tapes yet, but in the benevolent
spirit of Jaques MontBlanc I will offer to spin a few tapes for anyone
who doesn't have much to trade. I will only take the first couple of
replies.
Kwon

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Re: MINARETS digest 63

@mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu Sun Jan 16 20:25:54 1994

Shameless Grovel (Grilled Cheese SPICE@dickinson.edu (Reid Spice))
Tour Dates (S975014@UMSLVMA.BITNET)
dancing nancies quotes (STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET)

----------------------------------------------------------------------


140 PEOPLE??? Man... that show's gonna rock...

------------------------------



Well, I only have that one FZ show on the 8th to trade but I'm looking for a 
copy of the DM/Tim Reynolds Acoustic Duet show from the 12th in 
Charlottesville.  Anyone?  Please?  

Thanks,
Reid

SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU

------------------------------


Could someone please post the dates of Dave's current Midwest tour.  I know
he'll be in Chicago next weekend.  Where else will he be?
 
Miles Abrams

------------------------------


if any of you have any great dancing nancies quotes, could you send
them to me, along with the date and venue of the quote?  i want
compile a list of them for everyone to laugh at.
 
or put it in the faq, or both?  for now i'm putting it in the faq
in the songs section.
 
also, could the person (or anyone) whose managed to keep all (or
as many as possible) of the digests get in touch with me?
======================================================================
rick thompson                      stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
                                   matthews band (including a few
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"could i have been....the king of diarrhea?"--djm, 11-9-93
======================================================================

------------------------------

End of MINARETS Digest 63
*************************
reply to Reid Spice,
I have a copy of a duet from April 22-really good-sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu

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reply to Reid Spice

@mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu Sun Jan 16 21:19:30 1994

I don't have the 12th duet you are talking about but I do have a duet from
April 22, at the Prism Coffee House, in Charlottesville, interested?

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Netter Form

STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Jan 17 01:04:42 1994

This is a generic netter form for the netter list which is maintained by Gregg
Carrier.  If you would like to be added to the list, fill this out and send it
to Gregg (stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu).  If you would like to change your
entry, fill this out again.  If you want a copy of the file, email Gregg.  Note
this is a suggested form.  You can change it if you want, but try to be brief.
------------------------------cut here-----------------------------------------
Snail Mail Address(es):
Phone Number(s):

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phenomenal dmb story... (for me anyway)

cecliff@vt.edu Mon Jan 17 14:28:22 1994

hello all..
happy new year.  let us all be awakened to sobriety. however shameless.
of my break.  i drove down to w-s for the show at ziggy's.  my friend brandi 
livesthere so it was a good excuse for a road trip.  we got to ziggy's, and 
it was COLD AS SHIT till you started dancing.  there's tarp over one area of 
other netters that i had planned on meeting, which apparently ended up not 
happening. i was disappointed though..(dan, brian)
were in front of leroi.  after the show he stuck around on stage while the 
club cleared out.  we started talking to leroi, and then stefan, and soon as
we knew, thirty minutes had flown.  they invited us back to the holiday inn 
to party, which we did.  we cracked open a bottle of bourbon, and decided to 
go to 'the good ole' IHOP for breakfast.  (which leroi bought) and we got put
on the nye guest list. no strings.  no favors. 
only other person i knew who was going.)  i woke him up, (he'd been driving
most on the night back from the PHISH show...  little did i know that in my
state of drunken delerium.) he scolded me... harshly and told me to call him
in daylight hours.  
story.  i must say, though, that that elevator encounter blew me away.  it
was FUCKIN STRANGE. drunken people and emergency bells in elevators just 
don't mesh.
how many colorado shows had to be cancelled?  it's all a  shame...

let your souls soar,
clare 

'i gravitate toward opportunities of self-destruction'

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Chicago shows cancelled

bobgee@merle.acns.nwu.edu Mon Jan 17 18:12:36 1994

I just got off the phone with someone at Schuba's to find out when tickets go
on sale for the 22nd show (it was advertised in this Friday's Reader) only to
be informed that DAVE HAS CANCELLED ALL SHOWS THIS WEEK. Apparantly he had a
death in the family and flew back to South Africa on Saturday. I guess the
Boulder shows were cancelled as well. So there are no doubt a lot of bummed
out people in the land of Dave. She wasn't sure when or where Dave would play
when he returns to Chicago, but it probably won't be anytime soon (not within
the next month or two).
Well, I hope Dave's ok, and that he'll be back playing again real soon.

A friend of mine was trying to book the band for a Friday afternoon show here
before he was supposed to play in Chicago this weekend, and that's what an RCA
person told him.

show? Coran said it was amazing, but I'd like to hear about it.

Bob

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ALMA

dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Tue Jan 18 12:57:04 1994

Hi all -

Can anyone give me details of the members of ALMA?  They're playing
this coming Saturday (or Friday?) night in Blacksburg.

-Dave

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Jane

STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Jan 18 20:21:32 1994

I can't believe the news about Jane's death.  Dave must truly be in pain.  I
had only met her once, but she seemed very nice and supportive of Dave and the
band.  I wish him luck in getting over this terrible tragedy...
************ What would you do if I ate your Daddy's shoes? ******************
*    Gregg Carrier  (aka Uncle Zany, the guy in the floppy green hat)        *
*    JMU Box 1734            stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu                   *
*    Harrisonburg, VA  22807          (703) JMU-KIND                         *
*********** What would you say if it was naturally for you? ******************

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Re: MINARETS digest 66

PONDWAYLA@URVAX.BITNET Tue Jan 18 20:31:50 1994

Just a little news on the tragic death of Dave's sister.  I have
been talking to a source close to the band and from what i heard it
was Anne, his older sister, who died in South Africa.  I am waiting to
hear for the confirmation of the tragic death of Dave's sister.
Meanwhile, we can hang in there and hope they get back on the road
when Dave is ready.
Wayland  "could i have been a robber, give me all, give me all your money"

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This death thing

budkee@unvax.union.edu Tue Jan 18 20:33:23 1994

Could someone please call their management about this.  The number of
names passing around it amazing.  I thought Jane worked for management
and was no relation.  On horde-net, Dave himself died.  This is
getting a little out of hand here guys.
-- 
Eric Budke    			          Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Committee)		  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			  518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
budkee@world.std.com budkee@delphi.com budkee@unvax.union.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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to any new netters since digest 25 (or thereabouts)

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Jan 18 23:59:46 1994

there is a FAQ (frequently asked questions) file.  if you want it,
just let me know.  if you have questions about the band, taping,
tape trading, or other things, just ask me for a copy.  i also
maintain the lyrics file.
about the dave family situation, i heard, through completely underground
sources, that it was dave's older sister, which i didn't know he had.
(jane is dave's younger sister.)  i've been trying to get a little
more info on the subject, and i'm sure we'll see a press release
about the topic soon.
======================================================================
rick thompson                      stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense."
======================================================================

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Special Ticket Situation for the Georgia Theatre

jcrother Wed Jan 19 00:34:18 1994

sorry, that's a long subject line.

i finally have internet access again but only to hear the unfortunate 
news.  my heart goes out to Dave and all those that are connected.

i thought i'd post the dates again because there is something I forgot to 
add about the Georgia Theatre shows.  I put **** there to remind me but 
forgot anyway.  anyway here are the dats again for anyone who missed them 
the first time and i'll try to keep these updated with the latest news.  
i haven't even had a chance to contact the office to see how things are 
going. i'm rather sure these first two shows are cancelled but i'd called 
just in case.  i'll try and find out tomorrow afternoon sometime.  maybe 
someone out there knows? Bob Gee (whose tapes still are in the 
making--sorry) had some info on the Schuba shows.  

the Georgia Theatre show will have a special advance ticket sale 
procedure run throught the DMB office.  The tickets are 7.50 and one 
dollar for postage, so basically they are $8.50.  They are sent certified 
mail.  The office is set up to take Master Card and Visa.  The phone 
number is 804 971 4829.  Or you can send a check or money order to p.o. 
box 1911 Charlottesville, VA 22903.  I think that's clear enough.  This 
is an effort to cut out Ticket Bastards.  I hope it works well enough to 
be efficient.

alex Crothers

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DAVE MATTHEWS/TIM REYNOLDS TREE ANNOUNCEMENT

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Jan 19 00:39:04 1994

me and gregg have been itchin' for a long time to start our first
dave matthews and tim reynolds live at the movie palace in c-ville,
dec 12.
filler (which is an entire side of one tape) will be the acoustic
set from here at jmu, nov 29 (which also features tim), as well
as the songs dave played live on jmu's wxjm radio.  i'll post a
full setlist tomorrow.
can you make copies?
do you want to trade or send blanks?
if you can make copies, do you want to trade or have blanks sent to you?
all taping will be done using master soundboard tapes, and if you
want dolby s, please specify.  there will be no dat branches, unless
someone wants to work that out for him/herself.
sign ups will be cut off midnight, friday.  (that means you have all
day friday to sign up).
we'll do our best to have the structure posted by monday or tuesday.
======================================================================
rick thompson                      stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense."
======================================================================

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Some Guitar Tab

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Wed Jan 19 12:32:25 1994


*NOTE--Most of this was posted in December but some has been added...

towards posting tabulature for Dave Matthews Band music.  Here's some 
bits and pieces of songs that I have accumulated.  I can make no 
assurances towards their correctness (I am more sure about some than
others; I'll try to indicate this).  If anyone has anything to correct/
add/comment on, I would greatly appreciate this.  Most of this has been
gleaned from listening to various tapes.  The position of the hand on the
neck was learned from observing Dave in action.  From there, the notes 
came from listening to the music.  Since most of these songs are incomplete,
take some of this and run with it.  If anyone thinks it is a good idea,
I would be willing to be the compiler of a Tab File (sort of like the 
lyrics file) to which people could subscribe and which would be posted
periodically.  What do you think?
(Note #2:  All of the following songs assume that the song's 
rhythm and patterns are available to the reader.  Therefore, the
tab is greatly simplified.  Also, as anyone knows, Dave does not 
play any song the same way twice.  A great deal of fill is assumed
between the tab shown here -- the songs would sound pretty lame if
they were played exactly as I have entered them.                             

LIE IN OUR GRAVES
-----------------

E--2--2-2----2--2-2-------------0--0-0-0-0-|
B--3--3-3----3--3-3-------------2--2-2-2-0-|
G--2--2-2----4--4-4--------2----2--2-2-2-0-|
D--0--0-0----4--4-4--0-2-4---4--2--2-2-2-0-|
A---------4--2--2-2-------------0--0-0-0-0-|
E------------------------------------------|

E--2--2-2----2--2-2----3-0-3-|
B--3--3-3----3--3-3----0-2-0-|
G--2--2-2----4--4-4----0-2-0-|   repeat
D--0--0-0----4--4-4-0--0-2-0-|
A---------4--2--2-2----2-0-2-|
E----------------------3---3-|

and the little bit after "and I'm blown away"...

E-3-3-3------------0-0-0-3-3-3       -|
B-2-2-2------------1-1-1-0-0-0       -|
G-3-3-3-----2------2-2-2-0-0-0       -|
D-0-0-0-0-4---4-0--2-2-2-0-0-0 fill  -|
A------------------0-0-0-2-2-2       -|
E------------------------3-3-3       -|

B  5          7  7 7 7 5  7
G  5   slide   7  7 7 7 5  7      Ab  Bb  C  etc.
D  5          7  7 7 7 5  7
hit by sliding up/down to them.  Throw in a lot of 
mute picks as well.  This accounts for that sort of rough
sound Dave gets)

SATELLITE (intro only)
---------

E--------------------------|  There is probably an easier
B--------------------------|  place on the neck to play 
G--------------------------|  this, but this is where Dave
D-----9---7----6---4---7---|  does, so...
A---7------------7---7---7-|
E-5-----5---5--------------|

TWO STEP
--------

Intro is just Dm (barred at 5th fret)


Em(barre 7)  D(bar 5)  G(barre 3)  C(barre 3)  
D(barre 5) C(barre 3)


G  C  D  slide upD  slide upC  G   repeat 4 times

I'LL BACK YOU UP
----------------

I'm just going to list the chord changes, not the picking...just
listen to it and you'll get it.


E--0----0------2----0--|    E--0---0------1----0--|
B--2----0------2----0--|    B--2---0------1----0--|
G--2----4------2----1--|    G--2---0------2----1--|
D--2----2------4----2--|    D--2---2------3----2--|
A--0----0------4----2--|    A--0---0------3----2--|
E-------4------2----0--|    E------3------1----0--|

ANTS MARCHING
-------------
E--2-----------------3-----------------|
B--3-----------------0-----------------|
G--2-----------------0-----------------|
D--0------4-----4----0------5-----5----|
A-----4-5---4-5---5--2--4-5---4-5---5--|
E--------------------3-----------------|


F#m   D   G  GAG  F#m   D   GAG   F#m  D...........

ANGEL FROM MONTGOMERY ( BY JOHN PRINE)
---------------------
add lots of suspensions and picking

G  C  G  C  G  C  D  G
G F C G :|

ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER  (BY BOB DYLAN)
------------------------
look in any songbook...people play it in different keys anyway

PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET
--------------------

picked power chords...sounds like a pretty simple progression?

SEEK UP
------
main part is a D power chord  7  down to C  5  and back

with an A 7 thrown in in the "fall back again" part

A Bm C D 

BEST OF WHAT'S AROUND
---------------------

slide up neck to ~5 fret
Am (bar5)  C(top 4 strings of barre 8)  D(barre 5) G(barre 3) 
C          Am                           G          D

repeat   (don't know the rest)

TYPICAL SITUATION
-----------------
verse
schorus
G       F      ?   ?  ?  ?  

JUST FOR TONIGHT (OR WHATEVER)
------------------------------
E---5-...--------12-...-------10-...-----------------------|
B---5-...--------12-...-------10-...-----------------------|
G---6-...--------13-...-------11-...-----------------------|
D---7-...--------14-...-------12-...-------12-11-9-7-------|
A----------------------------------------------------------|
E----------------------------------------------------------|

shown above, playing only the top four strings.  The rhythm 
can be taken from a recording.  It helps to add your pinky your
pinky on and off the G string (ie. with A it would be 5-5-7-7),
making suspended-4 chords to make it sound better.  Anyway, this
is the intro and the first part of the verse.  After that it goes




I don't know the part containing "Goodbye...", this is a bit 
murky but seems just like he's banging the hell out of some 
chords. 

CRY FREEDOM
-----------

E---------0-----------0---------------  ----------2------|
B---------2-----------0---------------  ----------2------|
G---------2-----------1---------------  ----------4------|
D---------2-----------2---------------  ----------4------|
A---------0-----------2---------------  ----------2------|
E------------4--2-----0---------------  ----------2------|
The intro is shown above.  The first part of the verse that
begins with "How can I tolerate..."  is just a variation of 
A, B, and E barre chords.   The part that starts with "Cry
freedom, cry"  starts off with F#sus2 shown above and after
that I am unclear.
correct(I didn't have a guitar handy typing this in) 
or add, please let me know.  What do you think of the file        
idea?




                              Shawn Peters

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Alma

STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Jan 19 14:13:48 1994

All I know of Alma, having never seen them live, is that there are some really
killer musicians in the band.  It is in a way the reincarnation of Indecision
with some other folks.  I know that Doug Wannamaker (who occasionaly sits in
with Dave band) is with Alma (he used to be with Indecision).  Several other
members of Indescision are in the band as well, but being not so familiar with
them, I don't know the names.  Kristen Ashbury (sings really well...used to
sing with Dave band quite frequently) is also in Alma.  I'd say, if they're
playing near you, go check them out.  Should be a lot of good music and you may
even hear the Charlottesville classic Angel From Montgomery...a four chord
wonder as Dave calls it ;)
************ What would you do if I ate your Daddy's shoes? ******************
*    Gregg Carrier  (aka Uncle Zany, the guy in the floppy green hat)        *
*    JMU Box 1734            stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu                   *
*    Harrisonburg, VA  22807          (703) JMU-KIND                         *
*********** What would you say if it was naturally for you? ******************

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OFFICIAL POST CONCERNING DAVE

PONDWAYLA@URVAX.BITNET Wed Jan 19 15:06:06 1994

ok fellow netters, this is THE OFFICIAL NEWS OF DAVE'S SISTER'S DEATH
******************THIS IS THE OFFICIAL POST*******************************
*******FROM THE MANAGEMENT OFFICE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA****************
I talked to the Dave Matthews Band management at 2:15 on Wednesday, Jan. 19-
Dave is in South Africa attending the funeral of Anne, his older sister, who
tragically passed away last week.  Anne left two children, a boy and a girl,
who are Dave's niece and nephew.
in Alabama.
When Dave left on Saturday January 15, the band was scheduled to play taht
night at the Fox Theatre in Boulder, Colorado.  The Samples, who had the day
off, were called at 2:30 and by 5:00 they were in the theatre soundchecking.
That night, the Samples along with Leroi and Boyd, played a benefit concert
for Dave's niece and nephew.  They played for free and the show sold out and
was a great success.  All the proceeds are going to Anne's children.
The management wanted to express their appreciation to the Samples for
getting ready on such short notice.  The following night, the Samples played
a normal show with Leroi, Carter, and Boyd.  The word from Boulder is
that the shows were amazing and everything came off well.  No word on
when Dave is due back in the states, but the tour will continue on the 3rd
of February.
Wednesday, January 19.
playing on their day off, and on top of that for free.  It is great to have
bands, like the Samples, be friends of the Dave Matthews Band.
I hope to be informed about any new changes or events, and will post them
as soon as I get them.  I hope this will end the confusion and rumors on
the net concerning the tragic death of Anne.
If anyone has any questions, please do not hesistate to email me or call
me.
Wayland Pond

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ALMA

dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Wed Jan 19 15:19:42 1994


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Carter
played drums in Alma.  Is that right or wrong?

-Dave

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the situation with dave...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Jan 19 16:46:54 1994

ok, this should clear things up a little bit.
i called red light today, and they said they will NOT make a press
release about dave's personal life.  you should understand, and if
you don't, deal with it.  the band is currently officially on vacation,
and should be back within about two weeks.  i've heard that it was
dave's older sister and her husband that were killed, but how hasn't
been divulged by anyone of importance.
the jane that works for red light management is jane tower, a completely
different entity from jane matthews, who is the namesake of the song
that jane likes.
i hope this clears a few things up, and i'm sure that in due time
we'll get a full explanation from someone.
======================================================================
rick thompson                      stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense."
======================================================================

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CONTACT

HOLRN@VAX.RHODES.EDU Thu Jan 20 12:05:54 1994

I just got on the net and I was wondering if Blake or Wayland would email me .  My regards to Dave's Sister. PEACE

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Updated Dates

jcrother Thu Jan 20 13:26:20 1994

Hello-just got some new updated dates and stuff from the home office.
bear with me as i correct this original list.




That's all for now.  Hope that's not too confusing. Let me know if 
something is unclear.

alex Crothers

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Re: Updated Dates

dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Thu Jan 20 14:13:34 1994

  22nd-TRAX !!!!!
  23rd-Ritz Raleigh, NC-opening for Widspread Panic*****New Dates*******
  23rd-Floodzone !!!!!********************this show is moved to the 24th
  24th-TBA

Question about the 23rd to anyone who might know.  Is the Ritz a bar
type venue, or is advance seating sold?  Are advance ticket sold anyway?
Anyone know where they're being sold?

Just a hint to anyone who isn't too familiar with Widespread Panic, this
is going to be one helluva hot show.

-Dave

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Re: Updated Dates

btanen@husc.harvard.edu Thu Jan 20 14:33:58 1994



   22nd-TRAX !!!!!
   23rd-Ritz Raleigh, NC-opening for Widspread Panic*****New Dates*******
   23rd-Floodzone !!!!!********************this show is moved to the 24th
   24th-TBA
 
 Question about the 23rd to anyone who might know.  Is the Ritz a bar
 type venue, or is advance seating sold?  Are advance ticket sold anyway?
 Anyone know where they're being sold?
 
 Just a hint to anyone who isn't too familiar with Widespread Panic, this
 is going to be one helluva hot show.
 
 -Dave
 

Amen to that.  WSP and DMB on the same bill.  Let's get Boyd out there 
with panic for a few tunes?????

Someone do us all a favor and tape this show!
SOMEONE DO US ALL A FAVOR AND TAPE THIS SHOW!


--BEN


---------- Ben Tanen ------ Motts ------ btanen@husc.harvard.edu ----------

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Dave Acoustic @ Wetlands

jcrother Thu Jan 20 15:11:14 1994

sorry about the typo but the actual date is the 29th of December.
alex Crothers

ps-i believe everything else is correct.

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DMB and WSP at Ritz

mercp@acpub.duke.edu Thu Jan 20 16:13:25 1994

For anyone who is interested in seeing Dave and Widespread on February 23,
they are playing at the Ritz in Raleigh. This venue holds about 1200-1300
people and tickets have already gone on sale.  They are $15.50 each.  The
doors open at 8:00 for the shows which are general admission.  The phone
number for the Ritz is 919.836.8535 The address is 2820 Industrial Drive

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Re: Updated Dates

jrbaldwi@eos.ncsu.edu Fri Jan 21 09:22:47 1994

 Question about the 23rd to anyone who might know.  Is the Ritz a bar
 type venue, or is advance seating sold?  Are advance ticket sold anyway?

The Ritz is a square "theater" (I would not call it one) with a balcony
that forms a U around the upstairs.  The floor has no chairs but
adequate visibility, and the acoustics are decent at best.  There are 2
or 3 bars in there, and it's not a bad place to see a show, although
they do not allow smoking inside the venue, nor do they allow anyone to
walk outside and re-enter.

Should be hot as hell.

-Rhett Baldwin

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Re: MINARETS digest 69

klong@sura.net Fri Jan 21 11:13:58 1994

Does this mean that the dates for this show are incorrect?



klong

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Updated Dates again!!!

jcrother Fri Jan 21 12:25:11 1994

in response to Klong and the ever increasing difficult situtation the 
Wetlands show and Birchmeir show are cancelled.

The band is hoping to be back Feb 3rd.

alex Crothers

sorry about all the date changes but this is a a touch and go situation 
that changes almost everyday.
-=----------------------------------------------------------------------


 Does this mean that the dates for this show are incorrect?
 
   
   25th-Dave and Tim Reynolds Berchmeir(sp?) Washington, DC**New Dates***
                              ^^^^^^^^^
                             Birchmere in Va outside of DC.  
 
 
 klong

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Mike Formica

fostekc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Fri Jan 21 12:40:08 1994

not save any messages!!  I can not find any of my old stuff and my set up
is totally different.  Well Mike can you please send me your address, sorry
about the trouble, I am sending you two tapes to compensate.

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STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Fri Jan 21 15:16:39 1994

doug wannamaker--hammond organ
kristin asbury --vocals
arron evans
houston ross
johnny gilmore --drums
i don't really know much more about them, except that every member
is from either c-ville all-stars, indecision, or both.  i don't
know if kristin is the only vocalist for the band either.  they're
playing here in harrisonburg tonight at joker's pub, just in case
anyone near hear is looking for something to do.
here's the setlist for the dave matthews/tim reynolds movie palace
set I                              set II
typical situation                  you are my sanity  **
recently                           satellite
pay for what you get               so much to say
tripping billies                   help myself
chatterbox   **                    dancing nancies
one sweet world                    is anybody there?  **
minarets                           i'll back you up
set II cont'd                      nov 29, wilson hall, jmu
ants marching                      recently
what you will(this is what i'm     i'll back you up
warehouse                          you are my sanity   **
stream  **                         minarets
christmas song                     stream    **
angel from montgomery              lie in our graves
**
the filler songs are the two songs dave matthews played live on wxjm radio
just before his show at jmu.
as far as the repeats on the second tape goes, the two streams
could be listen to as different songs, because tim reynolds is so
good at reinterpretting the song every time he plays it.  the
lie in our graves are really different with dave doing some really
whacked out dave talk on the filler.
the christmas song's are more or less identical.
since it took me so long to get this set list out, i'm going to
extend the sign ups for another day.
how many copies (if any) can you make?
do you want to trade or send blanks to your parent?
do you want to trade or recieve blanks from your children (if your
======================================================================
rick thompson                      stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense."
======================================================================

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Spgfld, MO show!!

S975014@UMSLVMA.BITNET Fri Jan 21 17:41:59 1994

My first DMB show is coming up on Feb 19.  The tour date listing said Druyry.
I believe it is Drury College (I had a buddy who went there.)  Is there any
way that I can find out when and where tix go on sale.  I live in St Louis
(2 hours away) and have no way of finding out.  Is the show open to the public
(or only students)?  Is it at a frat?
Basically all I want is to be able to see them.  I've been reading this group
for 4 months and have yet to hear what they sound like (live or tape).  Any
help with info or even a phone number (management or venue) would be greatly
appreciated.
Good to see Dave is gonna get right back in the swing of things after his loss,
Miles Abrams

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First posting

cas4@Lehigh.EDU Mon Jan 24 12:06:19 1994

Hey everybody.  This is my first posting to the net.  Just wondering how
everyone originally got into DMB?  I heard about them over Phish.Net.
Knowing that I usually like the music that other Phish Phans do, I bought
the CD and love it.  Then over break, a good friend who goes to UVA, you
know who you are, got me three bootlegs.  Does anyone wanna trade.  If
interested, send me your list or e-mail me at cas4@Lehigh.EDU.  And let's
all share our DMB stories.

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October trax tree

caw9c@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu Mon Jan 24 15:07:33 1994

Could someone please send me the structure of the trax tree.  I
lost mine.
thanys
charlie

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traveling distances

cecliff@vt.edu Mon Jan 24 16:08:24 1994


hello all!!
(welcome corey...)
how about somebody sharing with the net the longest distances you've 
traveled to see the band, and/or any crazy stories you've got to tell 
that may by only remotely (but definitely somewhat) related to dmb.

Guess what??? I'm driving four hours to raleigh on wed, the 23rd to see 
the show with a fellow netter (dave forbis).  i'm psyched and i have
no clue how we'll fit the show and 8 hrs of driving into one night. 
all can be accomplished...  how many other netters will show for this 
spectacular event???    anyone?  anyone?

let your souls soar,
clare emily

******************************************************************************
A woman is often measured by things she cannot control.  She is measured by 
the way her body curves or doesn't curve, by where she is flat or straight or 
round.  She is measured by 36-24-36 and inches and ages and numbers.  By all 
the outside things that don't ever add up to who she is on the inside.  And 
so if a woman is to measured, let her be measured by the things she can 
control, by who she is and who she is trying to become.  Because as every 
woman knows, measurements are only statistics.  And STATISTICS LIE.
******************************************************************************

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minarets.net Mailing Archive (page 5)

I'm interested in article.

btanen@husc.harvard.edu Sat Dec 11 17:41:36 1993

Floodzone 12-8-93

PONDWAYLA@URVAX.BITNET Sat Dec 11 18:17:11 1993

pay 4 and christmas...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Sat Dec 11 19:27:08 1993

people, people...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Sat Dec 11 19:29:48 1993

guitarists of the world unite...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Sat Dec 11 19:32:26 1993

netters form

blakec@wyvern.com Sat Dec 11 20:08:39 1993

treynolds

PHELPSWIL@URVAX.BITNET Sat Dec 11 20:16:53 1993

Flood Zone Dec. 8...yeeehah!

COGBILLJ@GUVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 00:50:00 1993

possible FAQ info

WOTTONGM@VUCTRVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 04:07:34 1993

Jeff's not such a good sound man

daveh@shell.portal.com Sun Dec 12 10:22:54 1993

12/11 Williams Set list

EWHESSE@AMHERST.BITNET Sun Dec 12 14:03:15 1993

Re: Halloween, Christmas, other thoughts

kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sun Dec 12 18:06:36 1993

Re: Halloween, Christmas, other thoughts

blakec@wyvern.com Sun Dec 12 19:04:35 1993

re: halloween

cecliff@vt.edu Sun Dec 12 19:23:54 1993

Dave and Hair

blakec@wyvern.com Sun Dec 12 19:35:37 1993

Interviews and articles files...

STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 20:00:32 1993

Oops...forgot...

STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 20:00:41 1993

Halloween

COGBILLJ@GUVAX.BITNET Sun Dec 12 20:02:28 1993

DMB interview(long), pt. 1

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sun Dec 12 21:10:57 1993

DMB interview, pt2

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sun Dec 12 21:11:31 1993

DMB interview, pt.3

gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Sun Dec 12 21:12:01 1993

Re: Halloween

dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Mon Dec 13 10:15:40 1993

Re: MINARETS digest 51

rbyerly Mon Dec 13 15:24:40 1993

Re: false inferences

kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Mon Dec 13 16:10:40 1993

Re: DMB Colorado Jan. dates

kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Mon Dec 13 16:31:29 1993

nc shows anyone????

cecliff@vt.edu Mon Dec 13 19:26:32 1993

dave matthews nye run...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Dec 13 20:32:43 1993

Irving Plaza, How many?

budkee@unvax.union.edu Tue Dec 14 00:10:31 1993

stuff

gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Dec 14 00:58:22 1993

halloween(yet another hmo) and jeff(same)...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Dec 14 10:15:01 1993

dave's crazy sound...

STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Dec 14 12:41:29 1993

show times in nc

cecliff@vt.edu Tue Dec 14 14:25:54 1993

Winter Dates....again

jcrother Tue Dec 14 15:52:51 1993

The Old Tree that was Stunted

Daniel_Gold@brown.edu Tue Dec 14 19:54:21 1993

Good luck on finals...

blakec@wyvern.com Wed Dec 15 13:38:57 1993

Dave Matthews Band net

@mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu Wed Dec 15 14:40:01 1993

there it was . . .

btanen@husc.harvard.edu Wed Dec 15 16:28:48 1993

The Tree

jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Wed Dec 15 17:22:21 1993

Re: Dave Matthews Band net

blakec@wyvern.com Wed Dec 15 20:16:31 1993

Re: MINARETS digest 53