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Re: MINARETS partial digest 8
STU_BEHORTON@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Oct 25 11:55:41 1993
The only thing I heard regarding DMB and the Jerry Garcia Band was that
there would not be a Halloween show this year because the band would be
attending the Garcia show at Brendan Byrne Arena in New Jersey. This comes
from a friend of the band and makes sense since they will be in NYC the
on the 30th for the Wetlands gig.
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WHAT DO YOU THINK?
fostekc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Mon Oct 25 12:25:16 1993
FROM THE BEATLES "TOMORROW NEVER KNOWS" (the "float down stream" part), IS
THERE SOME RELATION YOU KNOW OF?
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minarets and the beatles...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Oct 25 13:54:58 1993
dave matthews.
it's like trying to explain phish language (or trying to explain
putting the opening lines of 'dancing in the streets' on the
beginning of recently(7-7-93, 7-14-93) and playing recently
shorter with a few quotes from a rolling stones song that goes
world around, you got my world turnin'"(same two shows). also,
stefan once broke into 'the wild side' during the jam session of
jimi thing(3-23-93). it's just a way of playing songs differently
and livening up the show.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
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ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT DAVE MATTHEWS LYRICS
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Oct 25 15:23:44 1993
due to the fact that the dave matthews lyrics file is likely to change
drastically from day to day, i've decided to set it up as a separate
mailing list. i'll probably mail it out about once every two to three
weeks, unless there are substantial changes in shorter amounts of time.
anybody who requests the lyrics file will be added to the mailing list
and will receive these updated versions as they become available,
unless you request to not be added to the mailing list.
if you are on the mailing list and wish not to be, let me know. i'm
sending this notice to the net, and the people currently on the list.
this list is being run out of my personal account, so to subscribe,
send a request to the address below.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
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minarets.net FAQ
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Oct 25 20:52:09 1993
any questions out there? this is the FAQ as it currently reads, and
i'm looking to add to it. read over it, and then send all of your
unanswered questions to me, rick thompson at stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu,
and i'll work on finding answers for them. let's make this FAQ really
worth the bandwidth it takes up.
thanx,
rick
THE DAVE MATTHEWS BAND and MINARETS.NET FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FILE.
This FAQ was compiled with the gracious help of Ellis of Lemuria,
Alex Crothers, Rick Thompson, and Gregg Carrier. Any questions
which you feel should be added to this FAQ should be addressed
to Rick Thompson at stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu.
Who is the Dave Matthews Band?
What is Minarets.Net and how do I subscribe?
What about this new album?
=======================================================================
Who is the Dave Matthews Band?
Dave Mathews -- guitar, vocals (amazing voice!)
Carter Beauford -- percussion, vocals (jam on!)
Stefan Lessard -- bass (thump and grind, and he's 18!!)
LeRoi Moore -- woodwinds (esp saxophone!!, flute), vocals
...
The Dave Mathews Band draws from the distinct talents and styles
of its five members to create a uniquely compelling pop sound
that combines the influences of folk, jazz, rock, world beat, and
reggae. Some of it seems like a cross between Bob Dylan, Hot
Tuna, and Michael Stipe, parts are remniscent of a funky Miles
Daves, and parts sound like the Seldom Scene and Ziggy Stardust
mixed together. In an unknown show in the spring of 93, Dave
described the song "One Sweet World" as a sort of "Virginia
country funk," which is yet another way of inadequately describing
their unique sound.
....Dave Mathews, the band's namesake and formerly a Charlottes-
ville bartender, began assembling the group in 1991. A self-
taught guitarist and an inspiring poet from South Africa,
Dave Mathews has said that the goal of his music is "lifting
spirits" and this band reaches that goal.
....Carter Beauford, a past regular on BET (Black Entertainment
Television) and son of a jazz trumpet player, helps tie the band's
various elements together.
....Stefan has played upright bass in clubs since he was 15, was 16
when DMB was formed, and continues to get more powerful and controlled
every show.
....LeRoi has played with Carter and John D'Earth (amazing trumpet
player!!; catch him on Bruce Hornsby's new disc and on a 60-show
tour with Hornsby this fall) at paying gigs and informal jam sessions
around Charlottesville for years; the man can jam!!
to sing (but sounds great when he does), but man can he play that
fiddle! At three HORDE shows this summer, as well as at the Red
Rocks Amphitheatre, the crowd went NUTS each time Boyd appeared.
Boyd played as wonderfully to that crowd of some 9,000 in July as
he did on a lawn, in the rain, for ten folks sitting in grass
last May. He's cool-natured and friendly beyond belief; all he
wants is to play, and boy can he! You ain't heard Watchtower
until you've heard the DMB's arrangement with Boyd's SMOKING
solo!
.....DMB has played ALL over Virginia, but has also played dates
in SC, NC, GA, AL, NY, IL, CO, MD, DC, TN, and I can't begin to
remember where else. You may have seen them or heard about them
playing Feb. 6 at the Ritz (NYC) playing with members of the
Allmans, Widespread, PHISH, Blues Traveler, and I've forgotten
who else.
--
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File
========================================================================
What is Minarets.Net and how do I subscribe?
Basically minarets.Net was initially started by myself(Alex Crothers)
with the help of Ellis of Lemuria and Eric Budke. I got involved with
the DMB through my brother who began booking them when they first
formed and is now their "unofficial" photographer. The name of the
Net comes from a song that will appear on their forthcoming album
(Nov. 2) and was suggested by Ellis. Originally Sreaming from the
Minarets, the band shorten the name of the song to Minarets. So the
name of the Net went from Sreaming_From_The_Minarets.Net to Minarets.Net.
I guess we all got lucky. $-)
This Net is somewhat different than other musical nets that you may be
familiar with. To begin with it is not (yet) digestified so whenever you
send a message to Minarets it gets sent to all the subscribers immediately.
Another aspect of this net that is different than other nets is in the way
you subscribe/unsubscribe.
To subscribe send the message "subscribe minarets Your Name" to
listproc@moose.uvm.edu. This mailing list is run through through the
University of Vermont so it is subject to their rules/laws. So far this
is the only way to sign up but I'm working on setting up an alias in the
form minarets-request@moose.uvm.edu like many of the other nets. But for
now you'll have to do it that way. Similarily that works with unsubscribe
also.
Once you are signed up, to send regular posts to Minarets just send them
to minarets@moose.uvm.edu. It's as easy as that.
Now a little bit about me. I'm a student at University of Vermont so I do
have other things to do (i.e. tape trading, hiking, skiing, partying,
recording bands that come through the area, and, oh yeah, studying) but
hopeflly this won't take a lot of my time once I get it fine tuned. It can
pretty much run itself. I hope. $-) If you have any problems or questions
Thanks
Alex Crothers
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What about this new album?
this information is provided by
Thane Kerner, Charlottesville VA
BaylorF@aol.com
I'm the project manager of the DMB CD...the release date is now set for
November 2! The new disk is titled "Remember Two Things" and the track
Ants Marching/Tripping Billies/Recently/Satellite/One Sweet World/The Song
That Jane Likes/Minarets/Seek Up/I'll Back You Up/Christmas Song
The disk was produced by John Alagia and the Dave Matthews Band Sept/Oct
1993, and features both live cuts and studio tracks. It looks like this will
be the band's only independent release b/c a major-label deal is being
finalized as we speak and should be announced in Nov or Dec.
Do us a favor and inquire about the disk with your local record store! Record
Bama Rags Records
Coran Capshaw
(804) 979-9695/fax (804) 293-6510
PO Box 1911, Charlottesville VA 22903
Since this disk is not being distributed through any of the major
distributors, we need to build a buzz through consumer demand...so ask the
stores!
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RELEASING
fostekc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Tue Oct 26 00:56:59 1993
AROUND CONCERNING THE RELEASING. I AM GUESSING THE 9TH IS THE OFFICIAL
DATE. I WILL BE COMING FROM SEWANEE,TENN. WHICH IS A GOOD 8 HRS. AWAY, SO
AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO FIND OUT. YES I AM
SKIPPING CLASSES FOR THIS(RELIGIOUS EXCUSE) IT WILL BE A REL. EXPERIENCE.
IF ALL COMES THROUGH I WILL BE THERE.
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Rumors & Facts
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Wed Oct 27 10:41:54 1993
OK, I decided to sort out that silly rumor that I asked about (DMB
opening for JGB some this winter).
I asked Dave himself last night if the rumor was true, and he laughed
and said, "Boy, I like that rumor."
I guess that clears that up.
-Dave
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu
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TRAX show last night
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Wed Oct 27 10:47:13 1993
For any of you that didn't make it to Trax last night, you missed out
on a really hot show.
Set 0.5 (Dave solo):
Set 1:
Set 2:
Really intense show, closing with the best Halloween I've heard yet. The
soundboard mix was perfect, and the tapes came out really crispy. I may
run a tree for this one in the not-too-distant future.
-Dave
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu
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DMB and Halloween
caw9c@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu Wed Oct 27 10:52:44 1993
Hey All,
There has been a thread on Rec.music.gdead regarding the best
Watchtowers of all time. IMHO Dave put in his bid for the top
spot last night with a solo version. It was out of control. The
real reason I write is to confirm or deny a rumor about DMB at
the Wetlands on Sunday the 31st. Anyone know anything about
this?
Charlie
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Chicago
SAPIRE@carleton.edu Wed Oct 27 13:53:53 1993
Had the pleasure of driving down to Chicago Sunday
to catch DMB at the Metro with the Samples
what was disssssapointing was the massive
30 minute set
they were allowed to play,
though a truly excellent 30 minutes including watchtower
the crowd, a Samples crowd no doubt, loved Boyd!!!
i heard things like, "he's got to be possessed!"
and after ants marching,
"that was INCREDIBLE!"
anyway boyd came out and jammed with the samples and let me tell y'all
the crowd went wild when he first appeared on stage!
nifty! Dave came out on stage as well...
so we also had the pleasure of talking to LeRoy after the show
nice guy!
anyway he said the cd's release date is the 9th but they'd have
some b/4 then, or something like that.
The Rev. Jeffery L. was there too!, met the wife...
Ed
Later On We'll All Be Dancing
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for anyone who cares...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Oct 27 13:56:47 1993
wow, things have slowed down in the world of the marching ants.
just wanted to say that warehouse is in the lyrics file, along
with 15 other songs, so if you're holding out on asking for it,
now might be a good time. remember to tell me whether or not
you want to be put on a permanent mailing list that will send
out updated files as new songs are added. the last two mailings
were about 3 days apart, but i think it will slow down to about
once every two weeks by mid-november.
send all requests for the lyrics file and the faq to the address
below. the faq hasn't changed any since i last posted it here.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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Personal to Craig Iannazzi
BH7N@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Wed Oct 27 20:00:05 1993
Craig Iannazzi,
I got your list yesterday but somehow I can't
get through to your address. Please get in touch
with me so we can trade.
Kwon.
BH7N@MusicB.Mcgill.Ca
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d'bayou
SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU Wed Oct 27 21:47:24 1993
okay, so our plans to head down to lexington for the zollman's show were foiled
by no transportation. undaunted, we're now shooting for the friday bayou show
in dc. does anyone have any info on this show? i'm interested in a phone
number for the place, ticket prices, opening acts, etc. anything would be
great.
thanks,
reid
-SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
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taping question and grovel
gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Thu Oct 28 10:55:44 1993
it, but how does one approach them about it? Does anyone ever tape directly
to an analog recorder from the soundboard, or is it strictly DAT?
respond to a humble offer for a copy? It was a great show - the band was
very energetic. The encores were great too.
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band taping policies
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu Thu Oct 28 11:00:17 1993
From my experience, the band is very easy to work with in terms of
taping. I've taped them several times, from the soundboard, with
mikes, a blend of the two, to dat, analog, and have even seen people
taping to home cassette decks. These guys are easy to get along with,
and actually seem to appreciate the fact that they get taped.
--
Daniel Blanchat "One should always retain some control over his
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu his actions, for when we act on instict alone
blanchat@plato.uncg.edu we become as the demons that wish to become us."
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Bayou shows
STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Thu Oct 28 15:28:22 1993
To Reid and whomever else is interested...
Ever since a couple months ago, the DMB has been selling out The Bayou FAST!!!
I was there the first time it sold out, but since then it has been happening
earlier and earlier...sometimes as much as 3 hours before the show!
Also, even if you are under 21...HAVE AN ID READY!! They are VERY STRICT about
making sure you are 18 to get in. School ID's will not work. They will turn
you down with anything other than a driver's license or some similar ID.
I repeat...SCHOOL ID DOES NOT HOLD UP AT THE BAYOU.
Overall, I find the Bayou kind of irritating as far as security and crowds
although Dave usually does a good show. The crowds aren't as bad as at Trax,
but your best bet in my book is the Flood Zone. See you all later...
*******************The devious gelatin holding me fast*************************
* Gregg Carrier stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu *
* JMU Box 1734 :) ;) :D :P *
* Harrisonburg, VA 22807 (703) JMU-KIND *
****************I try to move now but you let me move last*********************
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minarets.faq.file
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Thu Oct 28 17:28:28 1993
ok, the faq file is getting bigger. it now consists of 1/3 dmb
material and 2/3 taping material which is borrowed from the
phish.faq.file (we all owe ellis thanks for that...).
now, i'd really like to up the dmb questions in the file, because
that's what its for. i'd really like people to start asking questions
for me to add to it.
why did peter leave the band?
this is definitely a must in the file and i have no clue as to the
answer.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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personal call, sorry everyone
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Thu Oct 28 17:33:07 1993
***************EWHESSE@AMHERST.BITNET*****************
***************EWHESSE@AMHERST.BITNET*****************
your e-mail address isn't working for me. do i have it right?
also, KAREN MOON, i believe your mail is still bouncing. let
me know when you get it straightened out.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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*** Dave Matthews 10/26 Tree Announcement
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Thu Oct 28 18:54:28 1993
Announcement for the 10/26/93 Dave Matthews Band tree
-----------------------------------------------------
This is an analog ONLY tree.
Cut and paste the form below to apply to the tree.
This tree will be distributing two 90 minute tapes containing the Dave
Matthews Band show at Trax in Charlottesville on 10/26/93. The seed is
Tape 1: Set 1
Side A Side B
(new song, don't know the name) * Seek Up
I'll Back You Up * Dancing Nancies
Drive In, Drive Out * The Song That Jane Likes
All Along The Watchtower * Help Myself
Two Step *
Jimi Thing
* - Dave Solo
Tape 2: Set 2 and Encore
Side A Side B
Ants Marching Tripping Billies
Lie In Our Graves One Sweet World
Screaming From The Minarets Halloween (Drum Solo)
Blue Water
Typical Situation
Nancies, but is missing due to technical fault (somebody accidentally
shut my deck off!).
I haven't selected what filler I will use, but be assured, it will
be equally good quality.
--------cut here-------------
Noise Reduction (Dolby B,C, or none): _
If you are a branch, will you be sending me trades or blanks? _
Are you willing to make copies for others? _
How many copies are you willing to make for others? _
-----------cut here-----------------
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Re: MINARETS digest 11
MD_WALLENSTE@ACAD.FANDM.EDU Fri Oct 29 12:09:55 1993
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have a good weekend
btanen@husc.harvard.edu Fri Oct 29 14:29:54 1993
for anyone going to the Bayou or the Wetlands this weekend, I'm jealous
and enjoy the shows.
------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------
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Who's going to Wetlands
budkee@unvax.union.edu Fri Oct 29 14:42:33 1993
Alright, I'm basically committing myself to go down to Wetlands
tomorrow. I hope to be next to the board taping. If anyone wants to
say hi feel free to do so.
Also, does anyone know the street address of Wetlands off hand. I
just realized I don't know it, but just the area that it is in.
--
Eric Budke budkee@unvax.union.edu Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com) Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Wetlands
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu Fri Oct 29 14:49:52 1993
I'm not exactly sure of the address to the wetlands, but its on
Hudson, in soho. Easiest way to get there is to take the holland
tunnel into new york. Its on the right, on the corner of hudson and
whatever street runs through the tunnel.
Also, the address is in the back of every Relix magazine... :-)
--
Daniel Blanchat "One should always retain some control over his
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu his actions, for when we act on instict alone
blanchat@plato.uncg.edu we become as the demons that wish to become us."
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SURVEY SAYS......
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Fri Oct 29 15:12:26 1993
i'm taking a survey for the lyrics file about the song pay for
what you get. currently there are about 20 people on the mailing
list(send a request to the address below if you want to subscribe),
and about 1/4 of them say that the line in the second verse about
"have you heard, that the bird in hand is much better than,
any number free to wander"
"have you heard, that the bird in hand is much better than,
any number three to wonder"
which, IMHO, is a more poetic play on words.
send me your thoughts on the subject.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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Re: MINARETS digest 11
goodrwh9@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu Fri Oct 29 15:50:27 1993
(For those of you who don't know he was the keyboard player, and he left the
band in late March of this year.) I saw DMB play at Salem College here in
Winston-Salem on April 5, and apparently he had just left. During the
intermission, I asked Boyd why he left. He said that since Peter was married
and had just got a house, he was tired of all the traveling and wanted to be at
home with his family.
Hope that somewhat of answer.
Warren Goodrich
goodrwh9@ac.wfu.edu.
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Peter
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu Fri Oct 29 16:09:27 1993
I don't remember the DMB ever having a keyboard player when I've seen
them at Ziggy's in Winston-Salem. I could've missed him, but I
honestly don't think he was at the shows I saw last fall. However, I
also think that the songs of theirs that We Are Who We Are (C'vlle
All-Stars) play sound great with a hammond organ, so maybe they should
consider adding the All-Stars organ player :-).
Dan
--
Daniel Blanchat "One should always retain some control over his
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu his actions, for when we act on instict alone
blanchat@plato.uncg.edu we become as the demons that wish to become us."
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The Bayou
kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Fri Oct 29 19:10:34 1993
Couls somebody please send me the set list of the Bayou show?
kmk4g@virginia.edu
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keyboards
SAPIRE@carleton.edu Sat Oct 30 14:25:27 1993
This past summer there was a rumor floating around about
the possibilty of
Doug Wanamaker
from the now defunct
Indecision
joining the band in place of Pete, but i have heard nothing out here
in the tundra, it's snowing...now.
Doug is the organ player in the C'ville Allstars.
Does anyone know about this and all eh? dave?, you been sleep'n drew?
so they have a 3D poster out!...for th' tripping billies...
Ed
sapire@carleton.edu
Later On We'll All Be Dancing...
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Re: Peter
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Sat Oct 30 14:49:40 1993
I don't remember the DMB ever having a keyboard player when I've seen
them at Ziggy's in Winston-Salem. I could've missed him, but I
honestly don't think he was at the shows I saw last fall. However, I
also think that the songs of theirs that We Are Who We Are (C'vlle
All-Stars) play sound great with a hammond organ, so maybe they should
consider adding the All-Stars organ player :-).
the dave matthews band used to have a keyboard player named Peter
Grieser(sp?) who, as mentioned before, left the band in late March,
93. he played a pretty straigtforward synthesizer and added a lot
of different touches to a lot of different songs. probably the most
notable difference to the bands set is the loss of a piano solo in
jimi thing. i also feel that dangerous hours(help myself), so much
to say, dancing nancies, and cry freedom lost out big time with peter's
leaving, not to mention the fact that they never do lover lay down
anymore.
something else that is not well known is the band used to have a second
percussionist. i don't really know if he was ever a permanent part of
the band, but he added a real nice touch to the bands overall sound, sort
of like widespread panic's second percussionist. his name was miguel
valdez and he passed away at the beginning of this year. if anything
knows any more about miguel, i'd really like to know more about him.
as for the hammond organist in c'ville all-stars, he's already playing
(and has been for some time) with indecision, if he's the organist i'm
thinking of.
hope this helps...
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
i had a clue now it's gone forever...
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re: keyboards
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Sat Oct 30 21:19:56 1993
This past summer there was a rumor floating around about
the possibilty of
Doug Wanamaker
from the now defunct
Indecision
joining the band in place of Pete, but i have heard nothing out here
in the tundra, it's snowing...now.
Personally, I would doubt it. It would seem to me, if they wanted to
add the keyboards back into the band, it would have been done before
the CD was recorded.
-Dave
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dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Sat Oct 30 21:31:14 1993
Just thought I'd post a bit of something I found... In the
rec.music.info newsgroup, there was a list of upcoming releases,
and Dave made the list! Maybe not such a big deal, but I'm excited
to see him mentioned...
-Dave
9 Nov Eric's Trip Love Tara [ER]
9 Nov Adrian Legg Wine, Women & Waltz
9 Nov Cowboy Mouth Mouthing Off
9 Nov The Homewreckers Out Of The Shadows
9 Nov * The Dave Matthews Band Remember Two Things [RT]
9 Nov r Sonic Youth Daydream Nation [ER]
15 Nov Eurythmics (UK) Live 1983-1989 [RKL]
15 Nov Paul McCartney (UK) Paul Is Live [RKL]
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keyboards on the cd...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Oct 31 16:24:37 1993
somebody mentioned the subject of keyboards on the cd in the last
post. i've heard from several sources that peter laid down some
tracks before leaving for new york, and i have a freind swear that
she heard keyboard tracks on tripping billies on aug 31, 93. if
anyone can back any of this up, please do so.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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Peter
STU_BEHORTON@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Oct 31 16:26:45 1993
last year and have failed to notice Peter playing keyboard. Granted, Peter
was not as flashy and flamboyant as Boyd but what he lacked in this area
he made up for in his playing. Many songs are just not the same since
Peter has left. Lover, Cry Freedom, I'll back you up, are just a few
examples. IMHO Peter also added a sense of professionalism to the band
I can't really explain this, but I think Peter's quiet and reserved nature
as well as his intensity were somewhat responsible. I keep hoping Peter
will change his mind and return to the band or that the band would seek
a replacement for him but so far I have signs at this. A few weeks ago
I attended Van Riper's. While DMB was playing their set Warren Haynes
joined in for Dancing Nanciees and it was incredible but I must admit I
was hoping Warren Hayne's keyboardist would have joined in as well. He was
sitting on the stage, intently listening as if waiting for an invitation to
jam with the band. Unfortunately, none was extended for I feel he would
make an excellent addition.
percussionist for the band. He would sit in on a show every once in a
while but had a band of his own (African Drum Fest) that occupied the
majority of his time. I had the pleaure of seeing him perform at the
Halloween show last year and he was incredible. Sadly, he passed away
this spring and for those of you who don't know the song #34 is about him.
1) Does anyone know who the opening band was for the show the band played
2) Also, does anyone have a good copy of the Halloween show that I
Brett
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keyboards
devereux@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Sun Oct 31 17:07:03 1993
I was at the 8-31-93 show at trax (I beleive we're talking about the same show)
and I saw no keyboards at all. I do have a few tapes with doug wanamaker (from
indecision, as most of you know) sittin' in with DMB. Indecision is no longer
in existence, an' i have no idea about what doug is doing these days. I'm from
ch'ville, but i go to school in NJ now, so it's hard to keep up with all the
local goings on. My brother went to the show at hampden sydney a week or two
ago and he said that Dave played a new song by himself which my brother thought
was called Tired Again. Does anyone know anything about this song? I went to the
wetlands show last night and I saw Dave play a song by himself as the first
encore, but I don't think it was called tired again. It was an great show, thouh! The band was very psyched to be playing. Does anyone know if or when the band
is playing Princeton?
Drew Devereux
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Grovel for last night's setlist
budkee@unvax.union.edu Sun Oct 31 18:10:49 1993
No one that I talked to last night knew any of the songs. Could
someone please post a setlist.
As for comments on the show.
I thought most of the first set blew. Dave seemed really nervous
(compared to the second) and the music didn't flow very well. I
thought the last song of the first set was pretty hot, and then pretty
much all of the second set was very hot. This was my first time
seeing these guys and due to the second set I was impressed.
Does Dave ever play electric?
I think Dave should look into some heavier guage string. He was
breaking about one per song in the second set.
Set list please!!!!!!!
Thanks.
--
Eric Budke budkee@unvax.union.edu Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com) Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 518-388-5615
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OFFICIAL CD INFO
baylorf@aol.com Sun Oct 31 18:43:07 1993
Here is the official and definitive information on the upcoming CD release by
The disc is called "Remember Two Things." The release date is Tuesday,
November 9. The band will play Trax that night, but three record stores will
have midnight release parties at 12:01 am 11/9 (Plan 9 Charlottesville, P9
Richmond, and Town & Campus Harrisonburg).
The track listing has been slightly modified since our previous announcement;
Ants Marching/Tripping Billies/Recently/Satellite/One Sweet World/The Song
That Jane Likes/Minarets/Seek Up/I'll Back You Up/Christmas Song.
The songs were recorded at Trax in Charlottesville, Flood Zone (Richmond),
The Muse (Nantucket) and one studio track, "Minarets," was recorded at Flat
Five Studios in Salem, VA. Joh Alagia produced the disc along with the band.
-The CD insert will include a complete lyric sheet.
-A cassette will be available around the 1st of December.
-Along with the album, a limited edition 22 x 28 poster featuring a large
version of the stereogram on the CD cover will be available; the three stores
doing the midnight opening will have them, but they will also be available at
shows.
-If your local store doesn't know about DMB, you can order the disk and/or
poster directly from Bama Rags Records at (804) 979-9695. However, it will be
much appreciated (even if you order direct) if you'll tell your local stores
about the band and ask them to get some copies to sell. They can call Bama
Rags directly to do so.
The band is currently negotiating a major-label deal. It has become
complicated because several new majors have become interested late in the
game. The deal was supposed to be done by the end of this month, but a
bidding war may ensue and delay things. In any event, there won't be any new
DMB recorded product released other than Remember Two Things before the
middle of 1994.
Incidentally, the band's management does have access to this net and welcomes
everyone's interest. On their behalf we say Thanks to Alex, Ellis and
everyone responsible. Interesting messages will be passed on to band members
often tak a while to get replies, because they travel a lot, so have
patience.]
Keep posting, and enjoy R2T.
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Last night
budkee@unvax.union.edu Sun Oct 31 19:23:26 1993
Now that I think about it some more. The first set didn't really
blow. It's just that Dave wasn't very impressive, I thought that the
saz and violin player were excellent. The bass was pretty low in the
mix and the drums filled in nicely. It's just Dave didn't seem to add
much to the set and the others seemed way over his head. And that set
I didn't care much for him.
--
Eric Budke budkee@unvax.union.edu Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com) Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 518-388-5615
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SONGS
fostekc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Sun Oct 31 21:49:23 1993
ANYONE HEARD THE BAND PLAY "ME SND JULIO" OR "LOVER LIE DOWN" LATELY? I
WAS TOLD THAT THEY STOPED PLAYING "JULIO" AS A SORT OF RESPECT TO PAUL
SIMON'S ABILITY OF PLAYING IT. ALSO DAVE TOLD A FEW OF US THAT IT HAS BEEN
A YEAR SINCE THEY PLAYED "LOVER". I HAVE A COPY OF IT FROM 12-4-92 AND
WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THEM BRING IT BACK INTO THEIR SETS EVEN WITHOUT
THE BACK GROUND KEYS. I AM SURE THEY COULD COMPROMISE WITH SAX AND FIDDLE.
BETTER THAN THE SHORTER? I WOULD LIKE TO GET A COPY, THE ONLY ONE I HAVE
IS POOR(IT WAS MY FIRST TAPE OF THE BAND AND INCLUDES "EXODUS").
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wetlands
devereux@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Mon Nov 1 01:07:52 1993
somebody wanted to know the set list from the show last night. I don't remember
exactly what it was, but this is sort of it. I remember the first set, but it
got a bit fuzzy in the second.
Jimi Thing
Seek Up An Emotion
Song Jane likes
One sweet world
Pay for what you get
Ants Marching
Minarets
Typical situation
I get really fuzzy here, but they played True Reflections, Lie in our Graves,
Tripping Billies, Help Myself, Satellite, Granny, and they closed the set with
Recently. The two encores were a new song with Dave by himself, the name of which I don't know, and then Halloween. The set list is probably incomplete, cause
they did play for a long time, so any additions or corrections are welcome.
They had a friend sit in on True Reflections on sax and then later on Watchtower
(sorry, i forgot to mention thet earlier) on sax and flute. I had seen this
guy play with them once before in ch'ville. He did much better last night than
when I saw him before. Anyway, I thought the show was really good. I didn't
feel that Dave was tentative or quiet. He did have some problems with the
sound-guy not getting it quite the way he wanted it till about half way through
the first set, but that all got staightened out. The Jimi thing followed by
an incredible Typical were excellent, in my mind. Plus, it was nice being so
close to the band, and being able to see how they interact and communicate when they're on stage. It was kinda like the old days when they used to play the
Eastern Standard in ch'ville (summer of 91. Dave and Ed, who are both on this net, used to go to those shows with me). Anyway, it was a great way to celebrate
an early Halloween. If there is anyone who made tapes and is interested in
doing a tree, please speak up, cause it's definately a show worth having on
tape.
-Drew Devereux
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It was Seek up after Jimi thing, not Typical, as I said in my last
devereux@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Mon Nov 1 01:24:29 1993
message. Sorry.
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A few things...
STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Nov 1 02:31:02 1993
1) It has not been a year since the last Lover...a while, but no year...
2) Dave told me at a show in January this year that they stopped doing Me &
Julio because he liked the original so much. I love DMB's version and tried to
convince him to play it again but to no avail. I think that one is gone for
good.
3) Regarding the keyboardist from Indecision...last I heard the DMB had no
plans for getting a new keyboardist at all. Sad...I really miss Peter on
Dancing Nancies among countless others.
4) I think it blows that the album is all live. (except for Minarets) Live
Dave tapes have been circulating for years. They play so many live shows a
year that a live album could have been released long ago. Also, they HAVE done
studio work beyond Minarets.Peter was involved in some studio work so maybe
that has something to do with its not being released. Who knows. I just
really wanted to hear what the band could do in the studio. I'm not sure that
I plan to buy the album now because I can get plenty of live DMB and most of
the songs on the album I already own several copies of. Any thoughts on this?
5) What does everyone think about having lyrics in the liner notes? I don't
like it personally because there has always been a lot of mystery around Dave's
lyrics mostly due to his singing style. I think that's pretty cool.
Until next time...
*******************The devious gelatin holding me fast*************************
* Gregg Carrier stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu *
* JMU Box 1734 :) ;) :D :P *
* Harrisonburg, VA 22807 (703) JMU-KIND *
****************I try to move now but you let me move last*********************
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re: A Few Things...
budkee@unvax.union.edu Mon Nov 1 03:00:45 1993
4) I think it blows that the album is all live. (except for Minarets) Live
Dave tapes have been circulating for years. They play so many live shows a
year that a live album could have been released long ago. Also, they HAVE done
studio work beyond Minarets.Peter was involved in some studio work so maybe
that has something to do with its not being released. Who knows. I just
really wanted to hear what the band could do in the studio. I'm not sure that
I plan to buy the album now because I can get plenty of live DMB and most of
the songs on the album I already own several copies of. Any thoughts on this?
Well part of the deal with Phish, and hopefully with bands like BT,
GSW, Panic, ARU et al, is that they allow you to tape. But in return
the least you could do is buy their albums. These bands aren't that
old, and buying their album if you really enjoy their stuff should be
no big deal and it won't cost you tons of $$. It's not like you have
to catch up with the Dead's albums. Especially sice this is a self
released disc, which means the band had to shell out the bucks for it.
I don't know much about Dave and the band, but it's doubtful that all
of the money they are bringing in is going to themselves. I'm sure
there is a ton of overhead that due to economies of scale is costing
them a bunch. Whereas a record company would probably pick up the tab
for some things.
will put money in their pockets/reimburse them for the costs of
putting the disc out. And second it will impress the record people
who are bidding for them and the record stores that are selling them.
This gets Dave and the band some more money to play around with (buy
some guitar strings) and gets their name recognized at stores so it
will be easier to find their next record, when it isn't available at
stores and most likely is a studio album.
5) What does everyone think about having lyrics in the liner notes? I don't
like it personally because there has always been a lot of mystery around Dave's
lyrics mostly due to his singing style. I think that's pretty cool.
Sort of undecided on this one. I think that if they are gonna put
lyrics, they should put them all in and make them legible. If they
aren't gonna do the above they should leave them out.
--
Eric Budke budkee@unvax.union.edu Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com) Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 518-388-5615
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Wetlands.
btanen@husc.harvard.edu Mon Nov 1 06:45:52 1993
Well, how was it!?!
------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------
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Re: new song
sdeutsch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Mon Nov 1 09:46:18 1993
My brother went to the show at hampden sydney a week or two ago and he
said that Dave played a new song by himself which my brother thought
was called Tired Again. Does anyone know anything about this song? I
went to the wetlands show last night and I saw Dave play a song by
himself as the first encore, but I don't think it was called tired again.
Dave played a new song by himself at the 11/27/93 show at Zollmann's in
Lexington, VA and in the beginning he said he didn't have a title for it,
but after he played it, he called it "A Quick Lay and Goodbye" yet asked
the crowd if they had a better name for it, so I don't think it has a
permanent name yet. Also, parts of it sound like the song he opened the
7/14/93 Floodzone show which was pretty much just a jam but we refer to it
as "Anti-noise Song" I hope that helps.
Sue Deutsch
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Re: MINARETS digest 14
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Mon Nov 1 09:47:32 1993
I was at the 8-31-93 show at trax (I beleive we're talking about the same show)
and I saw no keyboards at all.
that's because there weren't any keyboards to 'see'. what my freind was
trying to say is that she heard an overdub on top of the music. sorry
about that.
Does Dave ever play electric?
no, it's not very conducive to his style. one thing to notice
is the fact that his acoustic guitars are actually made specifically
to be plugged in. i don't think they even have a hallow body. his
acoustic sound is what he's looking for.
i only have one tape where he even tries to perform a lead, trading
off almost note for note w/ leroi, and he doesn't seem very into it.
some of his rhythm lines are much more complicated than a lot of lead
lines. it took me most of the summer to pick out minarets, tripping
billies recently and so much to say, and even having practiced them
for months, i know that it's impossible for me, or probably anybody
else to do them justice. i'll just leave it at dave matthews is one
of the most phenomenal guitarists i've ever listened to.
I think Dave should look into some heavier guage string. He was
breaking about one per song in the second set.
i've noticed that when he breaks a string, it just means he's more
into the music he's playing, playing harder, and playing better.
when the whole band is jammin' away, he tends to just wail on the
prominent bass strings to the chords necessary for that part of the
song.
actually, watch the strings he does break. usually it's the heavier
bass strings which are alread b/w 25-50 gauge. making them any thicker
probably won't help him much.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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Re: new song
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Mon Nov 1 11:35:18 1993
Dave played a new song by himself at the 11/27/93 show at Zollmann's in
Lexington, VA and in the beginning he said he didn't have a title for it,
but after he played it, he called it "A Quick Lay and Goodbye"
Is that the same song that keeps mentioning "cheap wine"?
-Dave
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*** Dave Matthews 10/26 Tree
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Mon Nov 1 11:41:19 1993
This is the SECOND announcement. Please do NOT submit a form
if you already have!!
Announcement for the 10/26/93 Dave Matthews Band tree
-----------------------------------------------------
This is an analog ONLY tree.
Cut and paste the form below to apply to the tree.
This tree will be distributing two 90 minute tapes containing the Dave
Matthews Band show at Trax in Charlottesville on 10/26/93. The seed is
Tape 1: Set 1
Side A Side B
(new song, don't know the name) * Seek Up
I'll Back You Up * Dancing Nancies
Drive In, Drive Out * The Song That Jane Likes
All Along The Watchtower * Help Myself
Two Step *
Jimi Thing
* - Dave Solo
Tape 2: Set 2 and Encore
Side A Side B
Ants Marching Tripping Billies
Lie In Our Graves One Sweet World
Screaming From The Minarets Halloween (Drum Solo)
Blue Water
Typical Situation
Nancies, but is missing due to technical fault (somebody accidentally
shut my deck off!).
I haven't selected what filler I will use, but be assured, it will
be equally good quality.
--------cut here-------------
Noise Reduction (Dolby B,C, or none): _
If you are a branch, will you be sending me trades or blanks? _
Are you willing to make copies for others? _
How many copies are you willing to make for others? _
-----------cut here-----------------
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Remember Two Things
btanen@husc.harvard.edu Mon Nov 1 14:31:31 1993
Um, what two things?
------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------
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Keyboards in DMB
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu Mon Nov 1 15:09:52 1993
Ok, upon listening to my tape from 11/92, I discovered that yes, Peter
was playing, and did make a contribution to the band. But I don't
think that keyboards are vital to a band with the diversity of the
DMB. With their instrumentation, keyboards just take time away from
the other players.
That said, I would still be very pleased if Doug became a member of
the band, as the hammond organ is distinctive enough, and Doug is
skilled enough to mesh well.
--
Daniel Blanchat "One should always retain some control over his
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu his actions, for when we act on instict alone
blanchat@plato.uncg.edu we become as the demons that wish to become us."
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Re: Dave and electric
gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Mon Nov 1 15:28:58 1993
Does Dave ever play electric?
no, it's not very conducive to his style. one thing to notice
is the fact that his acoustic guitars are actually made specifically
to be plugged in. i don't think they even have a hallow body. his
acoustic sound is what he's looking for.
rick thompson
similar to a Gibson SST or Chet Atkins model. The shallow body and closed
hole hamper its natural acoustic sound, but sound fine when amplified (the
resonated sound from the soundbox is not really needed to produce volume--
the string's effect on the sound comes through much stronger). The main idea
behind this type of body is to eliminate the problems with feedback that one
can get using more traditional acoustic guitars. The slimmer body also is a
little more comfortable for stage work, sort of like an electric.
versa. That's what makes his style so unique and cool.
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ADDTL CD COMMENTS
baylorf@aol.com Tue Nov 2 00:22:11 1993
In reply to some of the comments and questions posted since the latest
The CD is based on live shows, since only "Minarets" and "Seek Up" are purely
studio recordings. However, the recordings have been overdubbed, remixed, and
otherwise improved. They are of a significantly higher quality than any live
tape of this band...and believe me, we have tapes of about all of 'em. While
I agree that the band could really shine in the studio, that will happen best
with a major-label budget. This product is an excellent introduction to the
band and will meet the immediate demands of the existing fan base. If most
DMB fans have to choose between this excellent record now, or waiting for a
truly studio LP in mid-'94 (which we will get anyway), I think they will
"vote with their pocketbooks" as the saying goes. We shall see.
In regard to the lyrics being included, this is always a quandry. However, I
think we get the best of both worlds, because while we will see clearly the
writing talent Dave has, the mystery will be retained because the lyrics, as
many of you know, change from show to show, and will continue to do so. So,
you will get the lyrics as of a certain night in October 1993, but it is not
by any means the definitive or permanent set. For the record, they will be
printed clearly and completely.
I hope as many of you as can will be in Charlottesville for the 9th...it
should be an amazing evening.
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6/26/93 TREE STRUCTURE!!
jeg5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Tue Nov 2 03:12:56 1993
mail phish@phish.net, horde@world.std.com,
finewine@world.std.com, minaret@moose.uvm.edu
DAVE MATHEWS BAND TREE ARRIVES!
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL POSTING OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE DAVE MATHEWS
structure itself, 3) show info and setlists, and 4) band info,
IDs, and description.
-
- BIG YEAH to those who offered to dub, esp those (hoorah
Bart!) with particularly generous dubbing offers. It's folks
like you that keep the generations low, the quality high, and
music right!
- I simply can't do what I originally wanted, which was only
two levels below me; there are just too many folks, even given
those that dropped due to money or closeness to someone else on
the tree. But rest assured that only the best decks are parents,
and the very best are parents of parents. About 80% of the
requests included an offer to be a parent, but the math won't
allow me to accept all of those offers.
- However, this means that IF YOU MISSED THE TREE, there's a
good chance that you can hop on now. Those that didnt offer to
dub became a 5; those that did but whose offer was not accepted
became a 3 or a 4, on the presumption that, if someone not yet on
the tree wants to be, they can easily find someone who offered to
tape and who is closer to the top of the structure.
- Email with any problems pronto.
-
rotation. Email me when you see this (Ill try to reach you in
the meantime). Go ahead and send a list, if you have one.
get a trade agreement set up so youll all be ready when the tapes
start roaring through. Also, please make an effort to find your
children/leaves, many of whom have never been on a tree before
and some of whom have no tapes to trade.
have one. Otherwise, hold tight; they're on the way!
-
1: tapes from Ellis; have children
2: tapes from a "1"; have children
3: tapes from a "1"; no children; offerred to parent
4: tapes from a "1" or "2"; no children; didnt offer to dub
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1 Eric Cobb elc@cellar.org
1 John Claiborne jclaibor@ucs.indiana.edu
1 Andy Zaff abz@world.std.com
1 Rich Fromm fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
1 Bart 73234.3000@compuserve.com
1 Matt Laurence matt@frankie.cs.umass.edu
1 Bill Shaw bills@sco.com
1 Jamie Treworgy jamie@access.digex.net
1 Charlie Whitacker caw9c@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu
1 Joe Rioux jtr@softdesk.com
1 Matt Wallerstein MD_WALLENSTE@ACAD.FANDM.EDU
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Tape 1 (Set One with Filler)
Dancing Nancies Recently
Lie In Our Graves Tripping Billies
Granny WATCHTOWER
Warehouse The Maker (Daniel Lanois)
One Sweet World Spotlight
- Two Step
-
Tape 2 (Set Two with Filler)
Seek Up Minarets*
True Reflections Blue Water
Typical Situation What Would You Say
Dangerous Hours Halloween
Ants Marching Jimi Thing
- Pay For What You Get
-
*formerly called Screaming from the Minarets and on the
forthcoming disc (Release party Nov. 9 at TRAX, Charlottesville,
VA; 804-295-TRAX).
-
Dave Mathews -- guitar, vocals (amazing voice!)
Carter Beauford -- percussion, vocals (jam on!)
Stefan Lessard -- bass (thump and grind, and he's 18!!)
LeRoi Moore -- woodwinds (esp saxophone!!, flute), vocals
-
- The Dave Mathews Band draws from the distinct talents and
styles of its five members to create a uniquely compelling pop
sound that combines the influences of folk, jazz, rock, world
beat, and reggae. Some of it seems like a cross between Bob
Dylan, Hot Tuna, and Michael Stipe, parts are remniscent of a
funky Miles Daves, and parts sound like the Seldom Scene and
Ziggy Stardust mixed together. Dave Mathews, the band's namesake
and formerly a Charlottesville bartender, began assembling the
group in 1991. A self-taught guitarist and an inspiring poet
from South Africa, Dave Mathews has said that the goal of his
music is "lifting spirits" and this band reaches that goal.
Carter Beauford, a past regular on BET (Black Entertainment
Television) and son of a jazz trumpet player, helps tie the
band's various elements together. Stefan has played upright bass
in clubs since he was 15, was 16 when DMB was formed, and
continues to get more powerful and controlled every show. LeRoi
has played with Carter and John D'Earth (amazing trumpet
player!!; catch him on Bruce Hornsby's new disc and on a 60-show
tour with Hornsby this fall) at paying gigs and informal jam
sessions around Charlottesville for years; the man can jam!!
to sing (but sounds great when he does), but man can he play that
fiddle! At three HORDE shows this summer, as well as at the Red
Rocks Amphitheatre, the crowd went NUTS each time Boyd appeared.
Boyd played as wonderfully to that crowd of some 9,000 in July as
he did on a lawn, in the rain, for ten folks sitting in grass
last May. He's cool-natured and friendly beyond belief; all he
wants is to play, and boy can he! You ain't heard Watchtower
until you've heard the DMB's arrangement with Boyd's SMOKING
solo!
- DMB has played ALL over Virginia, but has also played dates
in SC, NC, GA, AL, NY, IL, CO, MD, DC, TN, and I can't begin to
remember where else. You may have seen them or heard about them
playing Feb. 6 at the Ritz (NYC) playing with members of the
Allmans, Widespread, PHISH, Blues Traveler, and I've forgotten
who else. Their current schedule will appear in a future post,
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Tues, Nov. 2: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA
Wed, Nov. 3: Floodzone, Richmond, VA
Thurs, Nov. 4: The Attic, Greenville, NC
Sat, Nov. 6: St. Christopher's School, Richmond, VA
--
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File
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DBM Tree Corollary
jeg5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Tue Nov 2 08:29:12 1993
1) Those who are leaves that did not offer to dub are 4s, not
5s; those that offered to dubs are 3s, not 3s or 4s. (I was able
to collapse a couple of branches upwards by deciding to make 12
copies instead of 9.)
2) The tapes are two 100 (one hundered) minute tapes, so be
prepared. These babies are packed to the end, and you wouldnt
want to miss it. (Fillers chosen by the band's management.)
--
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File
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keyboards on 11-17-92
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Nov 2 12:24:39 1993
Ok, upon listening to my tape from 11/92, I discovered that yes, Peter
was playing, and did make a contribution to the band. But I don't
think that keyboards are vital to a band with the diversity of the
DMB. With their instrumentation, keyboards just take time away from
the other players.
although 11-17-92(i assume this is the particular show you speak of)
is one of the best tapes i own, i find that peter's work is mixed
much to far forward, and even ruin's halloween and typical. look
to some other shows, if you can find them, particularly 3-23-93
and van ryper's 92(watch for an upcoming tree), and you can see
exactly what feel peter should really provide for the band.
That said, I would still be very pleased if Doug became a member of
the band, as the hammond organ is distinctive enough, and Doug is
skilled enough to mesh well.
--
my thoughts here are that although doug is a very impressive hammond
organ player, i feel(IMNSHO) that there are only a few songs in dave's set
that sound right with hammond organ. i really enjoy doug's touch
when he does sit in, but i really don't think i'd like him to join
the band.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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New song
nmayer@uva386.schools.virginia.edu Tue Nov 2 17:22:18 1993
i am wondering also about the new song that drew spoke of. i
was at HSC with drew's brother and i don't think that that song
had anything to do with a quick lay and goodbye. nor did it
have any references to cheap wine??????
"We dance between how we are and what we appear to be, and oh
god how it grows, this confusion inside us all, and remember
the echo that we know so well is shared by everyone everywhere"
"As I lay by your side, the questions they won't hide
themselves away, feeling oh but... tired again"
Does anyone out there have any idea the two things that we are
supposed to remember?
thanks to drew for the information on this thing
--Stephen Mayer
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Christmas Song
gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Wed Nov 3 08:51:32 1993
If anyone has any hints as Dave's playing on the Christmas Song, please clue
me in...it's a great song and works well solo. Thanks,
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THEY PLAYED LOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Nov 3 10:54:57 1993
last nights show was by far one of the most incredible dave matthews
shows i've ever seen, and everybody i've talked to about it agrees.
dave opened the show with an acoustic set, which i haven't seen him
do in quite some time(although, i know he has done it). the first set
rhyme or reason *
...new song *
i'll back you up *
jimi thing
typical situation
true reflections
lie in our graves
warehouse
granny
rhyme or reason
*--acoustic
rumors were floating that had played lover as a soundcheck and so
a lot of us were hoping for the best coming into the second set,
which he opend with (another long lost fav--)best of what's around.
after a pretty standard song that jane likes, dave got behind the
microphone and started babbling about a song he hadn't played in
a while. then they broke into lover lay down, with a little help
from a flautist, who's name escapes me. i've seen him play with
the band before, and his addition to warehouse, lover lay down,
and sax on a coupla others was really great.
--set II
best of what's around
song that jane likes
lover lay down
what would you say
two step
seek up
...new song(again) *
doobie thing--
happy b-day jam--
ants marching
the happy b-day jam was in celebration of carter's b-day. he turned
16 yesterday. or was that 22? ;) at any rate, it was phenomenal.
my tapes turned out _primo_ and me and gregg are going to run a tree
sometime soon. it's the first time either one of us has attempted to
run a tree so it might take a little time. plus, my seek up didn't
turn out, so i'm sending it to one of the other 6 recorders (that's
right, there's 7 master's of this show) to have it redone. which
reminds me, the tree will have a dat branch.
at any rate, we can only hope that next
tuesday will be as good, and if it is, whoa, watch out...
ps- i've seen the poster, and it's impressive...
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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Wetlands second set
budkee@unvax.union.edu Wed Nov 3 13:22:28 1993
Someone who was at the show that I met there just sent me the setlist
for the second set. She didn't jhave it for the first set.
Minarets, Typical Situation, Satellites
Set II
What would you say, Tripping Hillbillies, Nancies, Lie in Your Graves,
True Reflection, Christmas Song, Watchtower, Recently, Haloween
This should fill in the gap for that night.
--
Eric Budke budkee@unvax.union.edu Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com) Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
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sax/flute guy
devereux@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Wed Nov 3 16:06:33 1993
Somebody (I think they're from Sewanee) asked about the guy who sat in with
the band at the Wetlands. I think his name was Chris (I'm not sure, though),
and the last name did sound something like Hardy or Harding. Was that the same guy who sat in last night in ch'ville?
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Help Me Please!
chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu Wed Nov 3 16:27:45 1993
Hello Marching Ants,
Please help me. I am trying to put together a Blues Traveler Setlists File
and a BT FAQ file. With all the nets and information around I feel it is
the least we can do for Popper and the boys.
So if anyone has setlists or helpful information (about the bamd or about
how to set this stuff up) please email me. This can only work with your
support and I really hope we can all put this together. All help would be
appreciated.
Hey man, the only reason I'm lettin' you have shotgun is because I'm
goin' inside to play some foosball. -Slater :-}
------------ chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Brian Lipman \---------- @ @ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Northwestern University \------ ! Well, I guess I should play
Allison 3002, 1820 Chicago Ave | \ / some shit you guys know
Evanston, Illinois 60201-3856 | \__/ afterall, because the people
-------------------------------- here at Wetlands are paying me.
I'm Hungry. Let's get a taco.-Mr. White tonight. -John Popper 6.24.93
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watch for the new faq, coming soon...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Nov 3 17:03:59 1993
later this week i'm going to post the entire minarets.faq here. it's
considerably longer now than it used to be, running b/w 25-30 pages. if
your digesting these days, then my apologies, but i get the impression
that there are a fair amount of people around who could use the info
presented in the last half of the faq. i've added a very in depth
section on taping etiquette, as in trading, tape trees, et al. it
will provide an enormous amount of info to the beginners out there
who are looking to expand their collections.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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how to get the cd if your store won't carry it...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Nov 3 17:42:22 1993
in case your wondering how you can get the cd when the closest store
selling it is 600 miles away, i've decided to post the mail order
address. i'm copying directly off of the tour dates schedule.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To order the Dave Matthews Band CD, 'REMEMBER TWO THINGS,' send the
DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
PO BOX 1911
CHARLOTTESVILLE VA 22903
You can pay by filling out the credit card info below or by enclosing
a check or money order for $16.50($14.00 + $2.50 for S & H) made out to
DMB. You will receive a free DMB sticker with your purchase.
EXP. DATE___________SIGNATURE_______________________________
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
good word of mouth to spread it around. even if you mail order the
disc, hound your record stores until they decide to carry it.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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about the CD
btanen@husc.harvard.edu Wed Nov 3 18:27:45 1993
I'm planning on seeing DMB open for the Aquarium Rescue Unit on the 12th.
I'll be annoying local stores anyway, but will I be able to get the disc
at a show?
------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------
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DMB Descriptions Needed!
jeg5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Wed Nov 3 19:38:12 1993
Okay, pholks. As one of my various occupations, I write the press
releases and listings for TRAX every week and then batch fax them
all over the state to newspapers, magazines, etc.
description of the act. eg Gibb Droll was "Hendrix-esque guitar
pyrotechnics" and The Authority was "most popular funk band in
New York". For DMB, I feel like I've run out of good
descriptions. So, give me 3-6 words, something that'll fit on the
line along with the name and the date. These things are DIMP
(significantly important, for the weak-hearted vocabularists),
especially in catching newswriters' attention and getting them to
give an extra special boost to publicity efforts for the band and
their shows. If I just keep saying "Central Virginia's favorite
college rockers" or "original, unique, and smoking" I'm both
communicating virtually nil about their sound and missing the
point, which is to help make them sound amazing to folks that
havent heard them, as well as to folks that have heard of them
100's of times but, we think, could always give them a little
more print play. Post em to the net, or send em to me. I need a
new one once a week by 11 pm on Sunday. Thanks!
newspapers (esp. student run papers at schools besides UVA),
magazines (esp. youth, college, or music oriented), newsletters,
tabloids, etc that might make mention of DMB and TRAX events,
please get me their name, a contact person, and a fax number
(phone number if you don't have one.)
squeeze in a couple of more hours between 2 am and 6 am (the most
productive hours of the day for freaks, it seems), Id love to
hear them. :)
--
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File
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November dates.
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Wed Nov 3 19:49:30 1993
This is the current touring schedule for the Dave Matthews Band.
...
Wed, Nov. 3: Floodzone, Richmond, VA
Thurs, Nov. 4: The Attic, Greenville, NC
Fri, Nov. 5: Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC
Sat, Nov. 6: St. Christopher's School, Richmond, VA
Tues, Nov. 9: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA **CD RELEASE PARTY**
Wed, Nov. 10: Flood Zone, Richmond, VA
Thur, Nov. 11: Pearl St, Northhampton, MA **with AQ RESCUE UNIT**
Fri, Nov. 12: Paradise Club, Boston, MA **with AQ RESCUE UNIT**
Sat, Nov. 13: Trinity College, Hartford, CT
Tues, Nov. 16: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA **with GOD STREET WINE**
Wed, Nov. 17: Flood Zone, Richmond, VA
Thur, Nov. 18: Mad Monk, Wilmington, NC
Fri, Nov. 19: Music Farm, Charleston, SC
Sat, Nov 20: Georgia Theatre, Athens, GA
Tue, Nov 23: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA
Wed, Nov 24: Flood Zone, Richmond, VA
Fri, Nov 26: Peppermint Beach Club, Va Beach, VA
Sat, Nov 27: The Bayou, Washington DC
Mon, Nov. 29: Wilson Hall Auditorium, JMU, Harrisonburg, VA
Tue, Nov. 30: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA
The number for TRAX (in Charlottesville, VA) is (804) 295-TRAX (8729, i
think). If you call and get voice mail, you can hit 1 for concert info (2 is
to leave a message; do this only for serious inquiries and important stuff,
please.) If you're driving in from out of town, let them know that at the
door, especially if you're driving in from out of state. I think they'd like
to know that, and if they know that folks are driving as much as some of you
are (four hours? wow!), then there's a good chance that some gigs could be
added closer, to meet that demand. So walk on down to TRAX, tromp through
that door, and say, "Hi! I'm a Minaret Head from ______. This is gonna be a
great show!"
For most shows, doors open at 9 p.m, tickets are $6(tack on an extra
dollar if your under 21), and the show starts around 10:30-11:00.
Some nights, DMB is out of town and TRAX features !ALMA! or the
Charlottesville All-Stars, both of which are various combinations of
Reynolds!!!!!!), etc, and also includes some members of The Dave Matthews
_Band_ such as Boyd, Leroi, and Carter.
For the most part, DMB plays TRAX on Tuesdays and (I think this part is still
right) the Floodzone (Richmond, VA) on Wednesdays. On some occasions, as
there was last night (10/19), there may be an opening band. Last night was
the Hatters, formerly the Mad Hatters. (To note, their soundman, Ben Folsom,
used to be the soundman for the Jolly Llamas and was, in the interim, house
sound dude at TRAX.)
--
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
"Sophisticated technology makes the superstitious
and irrational seem reasonable."--Abbie Hoffman
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File
Keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train...
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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DMB w/ GSW at TRAX
budkee@unvax.union.edu Wed Nov 3 19:58:27 1993
I was told from the GSW people that there would be free admission to
this show with a Jerry band ticket stub from that night. Thought I'd
pass along the word. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I did double
check this and I'm not tryign to spread any nasty rumors.
--
Eric Budke budkee@unvax.union.edu Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com) Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
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DMB w/ GSW at TRAX
budkee@unvax.union.edu Wed Nov 3 20:05:34 1993
Scratch that last post. It is the Floodzone GSW show that is free
admis. with a Jerry Band tix.
--
Eric Budke budkee@unvax.union.edu Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com) Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Tuesday's show...
STU_GJCARRIE@JMUVAX.BITNET Thu Nov 4 02:13:20 1993
I agree with Rick completely about the Tuesday Trax show...it was awesome. A
The crowd...amazing...one of the most calm, friendly, mellow groups I've seen
at a DMB show at Trax in a loooooong time. I can only hope next week is so
good.
On Peter...this is from Dave...Apparently Peter left only because the schedule
was too much and he was tired of it...Dave didn't seem apprehensive at all
about discussing the Peter situation, but said he wasn't going to play People
People because he and Pete wrote it together. He did say he'd like to record
it sometime.
On the Poster...Cool...no other word for it...Remember two things...the two
things on the poster...hope you all can see it as quickly as I did. Takes some
time for most folks.
On the flute...Richard Harding is his name and he's a really nice guy. I saw
him at my first DMB show a little over a year ago, but Tuesday was the first
time I met him.
On a keyboardist...Dave said they aren't really looking.
That's about it...read y'all later...
*******************The devious gelatin holding me fast*************************
* Gregg Carrier stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu *
* JMU Box 1734 :) ;) :D :P *
* Harrisonburg, VA 22807 (703) JMU-KIND *
****************I try to move now but you let me move last*********************
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Hatters
WOTTONGM@VUCTRVAX.BITNET Thu Nov 4 02:47:44 1993
I read about the band the Hatters in the latest digest. If someone
has some information or tapes of the band contact me at
wottongm@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu. I read about them in Relix magazine.
They are supposedly great. Thanks,
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Ziggys in Winston Salem
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Thu Nov 4 08:30:26 1993
Does anybody have the phone number to Ziggy's (where Dave is playing
Friday night)? I'd like to call them and get directions, I've never
been there. Any comments on the venue? Good crowd? Good acoustics?
-Dave
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Re: Ziggys in Winston Salem
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu Thu Nov 4 10:59:01 1993
To get to ziggy's from I-40, take BUSINESS 40, not I-40. This means
coming from the east, in greensboro, take the Kernersville/Business 40
exit right after the Sandy Ridge Road exit. Then take the Cherry
Street exit from Bus-40. Follow Cherry Street (its 1 way) all the way
past the W-S LJVM Coliseum. Turn RIGHT on Baity street, which is the
first street past the Deacon Blvd light (right past Cactus Jacks Steak
House). Ziggy's is on the left, past Music Loft.
get over crowded. Its owned by the same guy who owns Tracks in
C'ville. They've got great accoustics, and the bar is well laid out.
However, its semi-open air, so you may wanna bring a jacket. Tapers
get there early, because when it gets crowded, you will have a hard
time setting up. I recommend taping from the first rail, at the (())
mark on the rail if you're using mikes. I have alwayas gotten
excellent results from this location. Its stereo center for the room,
and close enough that you can use omni caps and not get a lot of crowd
noise, making for some really sweet tapes. You may want to bring an
extention cord aand some duct tape, so that you don't need to run from
batteries.
--
Daniel Blanchat "One should always retain some control over his
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu his actions, for when we act on instict alone
blanchat@plato.uncg.edu we become as the demons that wish to become us."
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Red Rocks Set List (9/19/93)???
daveh@shell.portal.com Thu Nov 4 18:57:27 1993
Does anyone have the set list that DMB played at Red Rocks? I was at the
show (where I first hear/heard of the band) and I'd love to know the songs
that they played. Thanks...
P.S. Have a nice day.
--
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"My Blood"
fostekc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Thu Nov 4 19:05:02 1993
NOTICED THE "THAT'S MY BLOOD DOWN THERE" PART IS FROM THE NEVILLE BROTHERS
"MY BLOOD" OFF OF THEIR YELLOW MOON ALBUM? A FRIEND AND I PICKED UP ON IT
AND THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IN "MY BLOOD" THEY REFER TO AFRICA. HE
DID PLAY WITH THEM THIS SUMMER, MAYBE SOME CONNECTION? WHERE IS DAVE
REALLY FROM? I KNOW HE HAS LINKS TO AFRICA. CAN ANYONE TELL ME ANY OF HIS
BIOGRAPHY?
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Dave Matthews Band minaret net
janet48384@aol.com Thu Nov 4 19:11:28 1993
Will you please add my address to the minaretnet.
This is an address in the office of Dave Matthews Band so it would be helpful
if we had direct access to all of the information passing through this
network.
Thanks,
Jane
My address is janet48384@aol.com
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Paradise at the Paradise, next Friday!
btanen@husc.harvard.edu Fri Nov 5 02:03:10 1993
Hell all you netters. I was wondering who was going to be at the Boston
show next Friday. I think it would be great for people to come out and
show some support for the guys so they come back up here.
Whaddya say?
------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------
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Greg Howard (Bass Player)
BH7N@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Fri Nov 5 06:35:42 1993
Did anyone out there happen to catch Greg Howard play bass on the
"chapman stick" this summer when Stephan broke his hand? What
is this instrument and how do you play it? He plays a solo and
I though it was actually a duet with Dave until I heard Dave comment
on how Greg only uses two hands!Does anyone know ?
Kwon
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*** Dave Matthews 10/26 Tree
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Fri Nov 5 09:05:32 1993
This is the THIRD and FINAL announcement. Please do NOT submit a form
if you already have!!
Announcement for the 10/26/93 Dave Matthews Band tree
-----------------------------------------------------
This is an analog ONLY tree.
Cut and paste the form below to apply to the tree.
This tree will be distributing two 90 minute tapes containing the Dave
Matthews Band show at Trax in Charlottesville on 10/26/93. The seed is
Tape 1: Set 1
Side A Side B
(new song, don't know the name) * Seek Up
I'll Back You Up * Dancing Nancies
Drive In, Drive Out * The Song That Jane Likes
All Along The Watchtower * Help Myself
Two Step *
Jimi Thing
* - Dave Solo
Tape 2: Set 2 and Encore
Side A Side B
Ants Marching Tripping Billies
Lie In Our Graves One Sweet World
Screaming From The Minarets Halloween (Drum Solo)
Blue Water
Typical Situation
Nancies, but is missing due to technical fault (somebody accidentally
shut my deck off!).
I haven't selected what filler I will use, but be assured, it will
be equally good quality.
--------cut here-------------
Noise Reduction (Dolby B,C, or none): _
If you are a branch, will you be sending me trades or blanks? _
Are you willing to make copies for others? _
How many copies are you willing to make for others? _
-----------cut here-----------------
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Taping
nmayer@uva386.schools.virginia.edu Fri Nov 5 19:15:05 1993
Does anyone know if the release of DMB's CD is going to affect
taping from the soundboard?
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the hatters...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Fri Nov 5 21:13:41 1993
i don't really know that much about the hatters, but i do know that
they recently put out a live cd. though the musicians are very
talented, they tend to put too much effort into sounding exactly
like blues traveler. i feel they could be much better if they
started looking for a more original feeling. i would have to say,
though, that you should keep an eye out for them to be in next years
horde.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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back issues...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Fri Nov 5 21:29:23 1993
hey, i'm gonna start downloading digests onto floppy, so that in
the future, back issues will be available. if anyone happens to
have digests 1-11,13, or 15, could you send them to me? as
far as current availability of back issues go...
for right now i can forward digests 12,14,16-18 to any new
subscriber who wants them, but that will change in the middel of
next week.
btw, i'm going out of town this weekend, so all requests will be
processed next week.
thanx everyone...
FYI-the minarets FAQ and lyrics file are available by requesting to
the address below.
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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Back-catalouge of DIGESTS has been sent to rick
Daniel_Gold@brown.edu Sat Nov 6 03:21:16 1993
just so rick doesn't get multiple copies of digest 2-11, 13, and 15 (lots
of mailbox space!), i thought i'd tell the net i sent 'em to him. he may
still need the first one, though. i hope someone else hadn't already done
it.
oh, while i'm here, i should tell y'all that i finally got to hear some
live DMB tapes tonight and that i'm going to the ARU/DMB show in Boston
(yipeee!). cool tunes.... i'm psyched!
love,daniel
----gnome boy-------
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digests?
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu Sat Nov 6 03:28:48 1993
am I missing something? I have only been receiving undigested
messages. Is there ALSO a digest, or are there two lists, one of
people who get the mail split up, and one who get the mail digested?
If the latter is the case, I'll stay on the split up list, but I would
rather not miss anything.
BTW, tonight's show at Ziggy's was really intense. I'll leave the set
list to one of the more anal out there :-) :-) :-) awesome
encore...best watchtower I've heard.
Dan
--
Daniel Blanchat "One should always retain some control over his
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu his actions, for when we act on instict alone
blanchat@plato.uncg.edu we become as the demons that wish to become us."
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Greg Howard
SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU Sat Nov 6 12:25:48 1993
I happened to catch those shows with Greg Howard and he was absolutely
amazing. He plays a bass that stands up on end (like a regular acoustic bass
you'd see in a classy jazz band or an orchestra or something). However, it's
much more thin and, as I recall, it had 8 strings. 4 of the strings seemed
to be low strings and probably in the same arrangement as a bass (E, A, D,
G). Then there were 4 strings on the other side that were an octave higher.
The amazing thing is that he plays both sets of strings at the same time by
fretting the strings really hard. The sound is really rich and the man can
really jam by himself. I remember at the Trax show I saw that he played some
long solo thing (maybe with Dave?) that was unbelievable. The only person
I've ever seen who has a similar style is the jazz guitarist Stanley Jordan
who plays two guitars at once (with the same technique of fretting the
strings really hard to get the notes to sound). And likewise, Stanley can
really make some incredible music by himself (check out his album "Standards,
vol. 1"). The show I saw with Greg on bass was very good but I got the
impression that they hadn't been able to teach him too many of the songs
because they didn't play too many that night and there was a lot of filler
stuff. I think Dave might have started out that show by himself playing for
about 50 minutes -- which was a treat in itself.
Reid -SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
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dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Sat Nov 6 18:31:07 1993
BTW, tonight's show at Ziggy's was really intense. I'll leave the set
list to one of the more anal out there :-) :-) :-) awesome
encore...best watchtower I've heard.
Anal!!?!! Me??? Ok, well, I'm gonna post the set lists, so maybe I
am. ;-)
and, as somebody pointed out last week, it tends to get overcrowded. Big
time overcrowded. If it wasn't for such a great show, I would have been
miserable there. I'm not sure if I'll go back, I may just stick
with Trax.
Set 1:
Set 2:
Satellite that I hadn't heard before. It was a few minutes long, and
really nice and mellow. Too bad some drunk fools were standing right
in front of Leroi while he's playing screaming "ANTS MARCHING!!!"
over and over. What a way to reck a vibe.
See my next post for details on "A Quick Lay & Goodbye"
-Dave
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Song titles
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu Sat Nov 6 18:36:57 1993
1) Last night at Ziggy's, Dave introduced that song as "Help Myself".
2) Dave played a new song last night. Apparently he has two sets
-Dave
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DMB: Spread the word
STU_BEHORTON@JMUVAX.BITNET Sat Nov 6 21:01:12 1993
As Ben said it would be great if we all turned out for some of the
upcoming northeast shows. Unfortunatley, for some of us that is a bit
difficult if not impossible. Anyway the point is I would like everyone to
talk to your friends who go to school up there and talk up these shows
and try to establish a northeast fan base. In case you haven't seen the
The shows with ARU might be a little steep, probably about $15 or so but
should be well worth the ticket price.
The next order of business refers to Greg Howard. The man is incredible.
I misss
(oops) I missed the show this summer in which he filled in for Stephan
when he cut his hand but I was lucky enough to catch him at Trax on
9/7/93. He played for about a half hour between DMB sets and was
fantastic. It was truly amazing to watch him play the Chapman Stick
and I would strongly encourage anyone to check him out if you get the
chance sometime. At this show he also played with a drummer, Johnny
Newman, I think was his name and they meshed well. Supposedly Newman
has played with DMB too. Anyone know anything about this? Anyway, after
the show I bought Greg Howard's Cd which they were selling at the show.
Its super and I would highly recommend it. You might have difficulty
finding it in local record stores but here's the adress they give on the
cd sleeve. Espresso
The title of the cd is "Stick Figures"
Brett
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DMB w/ ARU @ Boston 11/12
Daniel_Gold@brown.edu Sat Nov 6 23:46:30 1993
The shows with ARU might be a little steep, probably about $15 or so but
should be well worth the ticket price.
well, the Boston show tix are $8, plus TicketBastard charges bring them up
to $10.75
well worth the price indeed!
i've heard the Paradise is small, so i ordered tix today, to be safe.
maybe we MineratsNetters can be as cool as PhishNetters and we can all get
together at the show, maybe we need a hand signal or something... 8-)
seriously, though, what netters will be there besides ben and i and maybe
someone from the NC DMB office? feel free to email me... we cybernauts
must stick together...
FYI, the guy i'm riding up to boston with will be taping the show. He's
actually from c'ville.
love,daniel
------gnome boy-------
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more on the paradise
btanen@husc.harvard.edu Sun Nov 7 00:12:50 1993
Well, that's two of us netters going. well, if y'all can't come I understand
since I haven't exactly been frequenting Trax/Floodzone (though I'd like
to!).
In general, how many people are on the net? (just curious)
------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------
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DMB Tapes
jcrother Sun Nov 7 13:10:18 1993
hello, this is alex Crothers and I "run" minarets.net. That doesn't entail
all that much work but...
I have a request.....
I am looking to put together some comprehensive collection of DMB stuff.
Now don't read into this and think I'm trying to put together a DMB vault
or library or some other nonsense. I'm merely trying to get most of
what's been recorded (analog and DAT).
Now if what you have is on DAT GREAT! I'd like a copy of it please. If
what you have is on analog that's alright too. Obviously I'd like to get
the best copies (lowest gen.--master???) of the shows that are only on
analog so I can then transfer them over to DAT.
This is going to take a bit of collaboration and working together but
hopefully it will work out. If you have any DATs please get in touch with
me. If you have something on analog, try to remember who you got it off
of and get in touch with that and have them get in touch with me. I
basically want to try and trace the analog tapes as far back to the source as
possible.
I know this sounds like a pain in the ass and will probably require some
EFFORT on people's part but hopefully we can come together and make this
work. We already have a FAQ and a lyric file, what if we had a
psuedo-vault??? I suppose I'm sort of volunteering for this position of
"vault keeper" at least until DMB starts taping everything on DAT (they
don't do this now do they??)
I have lots to trade for these tapes and will even go as far to say I will
do a two-for-one special on any tapes I get.
All my stuff is on DAT (mostly SBDs) so it's crispy clear and easily
transfered to analog tapes also. A sample of what I have and have access
aud), plus 65+ other randowm bands on DAT. So I'll most definetely have
something to offer you.
thanks
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Wetlands Setlist
jcrother Sun Nov 7 13:11:14 1993
Could someone please forward the Wetlands setlist to me?
Thanks
alex Crothers
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Hullo...
SEAWA@VAX.RHODES.EDU Sun Nov 7 15:24:35 1993
Could somebody please post the format to subscribe to this Minarets list?
I know I send the message to listproc@moose.uvm.edu, but can't remember how
to specify the Minarets sig. I have to desubscribe under BItnet and
resubscribe under internet, which we just had installed.
Thanks,
--Will
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oh, different things...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Sun Nov 7 17:34:15 1993
1) i saw the show on july 7, with greg howard and must say that it
added quite an interesting touch to the sound of the band. i can
also say that they did a really interesting version of typical
situation, recently, and warehouse. if all comes through, i'll
be picking up a copy of the show this week at the cd release party,
and i'll give you some more details. for any netters in the richmond
area, his cd 'stick figures' can be picked up at any digits location.
2)as for 'help myself', before dave changed the lyrics from desparate
hours to dangerous hours, it was called desparate hours, and introduced
as such. i plan to ask dave about it the first chance i get, but until
then, i'm gonna go ahead and leave it in the lyrics file as 'dangerous
hours(help myself)'.
3)i had something else to say, but i forgot what it was. oh well...;)
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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Boston, ARU & DMB
jcrother Mon Nov 8 01:55:03 1993
hello
It's me again. :)
HOPEFULLY, I'm going to Boston on Thurs and catch all the ARU and DMB
shows in Boston and Connecticut.
Like I said...Hopefully
Of course, I was also planning on going to Wetlands but my ride backed out
at the last moment.
Oh well...these things happen
I saw a couple of people from the net that are planning to be there should
I shave "DMB" into my head so we'll recognize one another???
If I come I'll be taping also
By the way, there are about 75 people on minarets. :)
Is that good or bad??
I think it's a pretty cool size right now.
Just enough traffic to keep it going and manageable with just the right
amount of information.
This sounds stupid, what am I rambling about
anyway, catch you in Boston-I'm the one with a fro and a SV3700
shouldn't be too many of those. :)
alex Crothers
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fostekc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Mon Nov 8 10:51:30 1993
AT 12 OR TOMORROW NIGHT AT 12. PEOPLE SAID THE 9TH BUT I THINK IT IS
ACTUALLY THE 8TH, BECAUSE RECORD STORES WILL HAVE IT TOMORROW ( THEY WILL
NOT BE IN THE STORES BEFORE THE RELEASING ), AND A FRIEND SAID THAT HE HAS
A SHEET THAT SAYS TONIGHT.
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Boston, ARU, and DMB
jcrother Mon Nov 8 12:06:34 1993
Well I just called an got a tox to the Paradise
$$$10.00 Wow but hey it's ARU AND DMB so that's cool
think) Pearl Street in NorthHampton?????
Please Email me quickly so I can get tix if I need them. Thanks
I saw two people on the net that were going (Ben and Gnome Boy-whoever the
hell that is) DO you guys want to meet up???? Do you guys a have any
crash space? Do you guys want to do some trading???? You know the
basics. Should we have a net gathering??? :) Just kidding, it will
probably only be the three of us I'm guessing. Let me know.
Alex Crothers
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Ziggys...11/5/93
JEROTTON@DAVIDSON.BITNET Mon Nov 8 13:32:47 1993
I hope everyone enjoyed the show at Ziggys last friday as much as i did...
small, packed...but the intensity of Dave's performance made up for the
negative....i am looking for anyone who taped the show...come on, i know
you were there....i just had to jet before i could hook up with any of
you guys....so whoever taped the show email me back **PLEASE**....i would
be interesting in chatting w/you...
also...tomorrow night is the night...is everyone psyched...im planning on
going if i can find some sort of transportation to make the 7 hour trip..
what time do the festivities begin ???...oh well, i hope to see everyone
there...untill then...take care
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Release
nmayer@uva386.schools.virginia.edu Mon Nov 8 21:08:39 1993
The release is tonight at 12:00. They already played Seek Up on
3wv.
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the longest post to minarets.net _ever_ approaches...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Nov 9 00:22:25 1993
ok, so this is a hidden attempt to find someone who will volunteer
an ftp/gopher accesible archive site. jmu isn't. for now the
digests are going to have to be kept on floppy disc, and will be
almost completely inaccessible. the faq and lyrics files are
easily manageable from within my account, i just have to distribute
them on the basis of requests. if you want either just send me a note,
(sorry to be so repetitive, i'm going to try to get alex to append
something to the bottom of the digests that says what i keep saying
every week).
at any rate, if anybody has a way to store these files in an accesible
place and is willing to maintain the site, please let me know. you
won't have to deal with changing any files, just storing them. you
will have to be reponsible to storing the digests, but that's just
a matter of downloading them to discspace. any volunteers?(i'm not
expecting anything....)
also, i said i was going to post the faq, and i am. i'm mailing it
in next, and like i said, it's pretty long these days. about 550 lines
(that's about 25-30 pages in e-mail terms). so, just thought i'd
warn everyone...don't worry, this will be a very infrequent occurance...
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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Who are these weirdos?
Daniel_Gold@brown.edu Tue Nov 9 01:59:42 1993
I saw two people on the net that were going (Ben and Gnome Boy-whoever the
hell that is)
Yeah! My question exactly. Who are these weirdos on our network? What is
the meaning of these odd names floating around MinaretsNet? I mean, what
with our love for such traditional music and all, wouldn't you think a guy
could stick to something more normal, like say maybe "ben" or "alex"? I
mean, i've seen such strange pseudonyms on this net -- i think i saw both a
"Gnome Boy" and a "Greenfling" from up around Rhode Island or somewhere
else where weirdos dwell. Not to mention someone actually from the good
ol' home state of NC had some strange concoction for a name -- like "Jeremy
of Aglide" i believe. He was talking about Ziggy's (yeah, and what kind of
a name is Ziggy anyway???) Seriously, does anyone know where "Aglide" is?
I've never heard of it. Let's get these kooks out of our personal
cyberspace. I hear we're 75 strong these days -- surely we can spare on or
two -- it's all for Family Values and Decent Names, remember?
anyone with the decency and good sense to despise these foolish names
should join the M.A.R.Y. foundation (Minaretsnetters Against Radical
Yokles) by sending a check for $19.75 to 12600 Ridgehaven Road / Little
Rock, AR / 72211. Or, if you'd prefer to donate cash, you can just bring
it to me at the DMB show in Boston on Friday. I'll be that guy down by the
front that looks like a gnome. See y'all there! (all two of you?)
love,daniel
------gnome boy--------greenfling-------------
--Jeremy of Aglide--
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my thoughts on the cd...
STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET Tue Nov 9 15:02:03 1993
GREAT STUFF HERE....
i picked up the cd last night at town and campus records here in
harrisonburg, and i'd have to say that's this is a really strong
debut cd, setting themselves up for a phenomenal follow up.
ant marching, recently, satellite, christmas song and the song that
jane likes are pretty much exactly what you expect them to be.
but the rest of the songs have some interesting quirks--the intros
to tripping billies and one sweet world were left off, and the jam
sessions to minarets and seek up weren't included. i'd have to say
that i like the way that this is set up, because it will help make
their live shows even more powerful as they become more well known.
dave brought tim reynolds in to play some backup guitar on i'll back
you up and seek up, but as far as i'll back you up goes, i prefer
stefan's bass solo. and don't worry about the lack of the violin
solo on seek up, this studio version is _really_ good, probably the
highlight of the cd, and runs a full 7 1/2 minutes as is.
the best bonus of the cd is a sort of mystery bonus track appended
to christmas song. when you get the cd, just let the cd go. it's
a reprise of a song on the cd, and i'll leave it at that. anyway,
i've got some serious lyrics file editing to get done, so i'll just
let other people continue with comments on the cd...
rick thompson stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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