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I sure hope this works. Uh-Uh Golly Jimmy I don't think I'm at UVM
anymore!!!!!!!!!!!

DMB RULES!!!!!

Alex Crothers



			

well... if you and i get this the minaret.net is up and running.
			

Eric, Prof. Sweterlitsch, and myself.  From Ellis and Eric I'd like some
suggestions about introduction message.  Do think it is necessary?  Should
I just get rid of it or maybe change it and have it explain about the DMB
rather than all that technical info about ILP sessions?  I've never
used/tried ILP, any thoughts?  Might it be useful/fun a little later? 
Just trying to sort through all this stuff out.  I don't want to jump into
this prematurely without having it the way it will serve the mass the
best.  thanks for the help.

Alex Crothers





			

This be a test message from me at Tardis.
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
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Here's a manual sign up message.

Sign me up please.
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
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review
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

I'm the project manager of the DMB CD...the release date is now set for
November 2! The new disk is titled "Remember Two Things" and the track

Ants Marching/Tripping Billies/Recently/Satellite/One Sweet World/The Song
That Jane Likes/Minarets/Seek Up/I'll Back You Up/Christmas Song

The disk was produced by John Alagia and the Dave Matthews Band Sept/Oct
1993, and features both live cuts and studio tracks. It looks like this will
be the band's only independent release b/c a major-label deal is being
finalized as we speak and should be announced in Nov or Dec.

Do us a favor and inquire about the disk with your local record store! Record

Bama Rags Records
Coran Capshaw
(804) 979-9695/fax (804) 293-6510
PO Box 1911, Charlottesville VA 22903

Since this disk is not beind distributed through any of the major
distributors, we need to build a buzz through consumer demand...so ask the
stores!o
			

jane? is that you? if so, yeah. you got connected.
			

---------- Forwarded message ----------

I'm the project manager of the DMB CD...the release date is now set for
November 2! The new disk is titled "Remember Two Things" and the track

Ants Marching/Tripping Billies/Recently/Satellite/One Sweet World/The Song
That Jane Likes/Minarets/Seek Up/I'll Back You Up/Christmas Song

The disk was produced by John Alagia and the Dave Matthews Band Sept/Oct
1993, and features both live cuts and studio tracks. It looks like this will
be the band's only independent release b/c a major-label deal is being
finalized as we speak and should be announced in Nov or Dec.

Do us a favor and inquire about the disk with your local record store! Record

Bama Rags Records
Coran Capshaw
(804) 979-9695/fax (804) 293-6510
PO Box 1911, Charlottesville VA 22903

Since this disk is not beind distributed through any of the major
distributors, we need to build a buzz through consumer demand...so ask the
stores!o


I URGE ALL OF YOU OUT THERE TO GET YOUR LOCAL RECORD COMPANIES TO GET THIS
DISK.  THEY PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO GET IT OTHERWISE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU
LIVE NORTH OF THE MASON DIXON LINE.  SO KEEP BUGGING YOUR RECOD STORE AND
PLAY THE ALBUM FOR ALL YOUR FRIENDS SO THEY WILL GO BUY THE ALBUM.

THANKS

alex crothers


			

I already got this.  I was subscribed at the time.  That's how I knew
they were on.  At first I thought this was an aol account that you
had, but I couldn't make sense of the name.
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

---------- Forwarded message ----------

The cover is a stereogram that was specially created for this
project...perhaps you've seen sterograms...they're abstract fields of
fragmented shapes of color, but if you stare "past" them (eg, look at yr
own reflection in the glass over the art) then you eventually see a very
distinct 3D shape...in this case, a hand with two fingers up (the album
title is "Remember Two Things"). It's a pretty wild effect. We're also
making a poster for sale at gigs with a large version of the cover image
and a small DMB photo at the bottom.

Don't forget to get your local record store to call about stocking the CD!
They need to call Coran Capshaw, (804) 979-9695 to get info & order. This
will be a huge help! Thanks.
Thane Kerner






			

---------- Forwarded message ----------

....
Dave Mathews -- guitar, vocals (amazing voice!)
Carter Beauford -- percussion, vocals  (jam on!)
Stefan Lessard -- bass (thump and grind, and he's 18!!)
LeRoi Moore -- woodwinds (esp saxophone!!, flute), vocals
...
The Dave Mathews Band draws from the distinct talents and styles
of its five members to create a uniquely compelling pop sound
that combines the influences of folk, jazz, rock, world beat, and
reggae.  Some of it seems like a cross between Bob Dylan, Hot
Tuna, and Michael Stipe, parts are remniscent of a funky Miles
Daves, and parts sound like the Seldom Scene and Ziggy Stardust
mixed together. Dave Mathews, the band's namesake and formerly a
Charlottesville bartender, began assembling the group in 1991.  A
self-taught guitarist and an inspiring poet from South Africa,
Dave Mathews has said that the goal of his music is "lifting
spirits" and this band reaches that goal. Carter Beauford, a past
regular on BET (Black Entertainment Television) and son of a jazz
trumpet player, helps tie the band's various elements together.
Stefan has played upright bass in clubs since he was 15, was 16
when DMB was formed, and continues to get more powerful and
controlled every show.  LeRoi has played with Carter and John
D'Earth (amazing trumpet player!!; catch him on Bruce Hornsby's
new disc and on a 60-show tour with Hornsby this fall) at paying
gigs and informal jam sessions around Charlottesville for years;
the man can jam!!
to sing (but sounds great when he does), but man can he play that
fiddle!  At three HORDE shows this summer, as well as at the Red
Rocks Amphitheatre, the crowd went NUTS each time Boyd appeared.
Boyd played as wonderfully to that crowd of some 9,000 in July as
he did on a lawn, in the rain, for ten folks sitting in grass
last May.  He's cool-natured and friendly beyond belief; all he
wants is to play, and boy can he!  You ain't heard Watchtower
until you've heard the DMB's arrangement with Boyd's SMOKING
solo!
.....DMB has played ALL over Virginia, but has also played dates
in SC, NC, GA, AL, NY, IL, CO, MD, DC, TN, and I can't begin to
remember where else. You may have seen them or heard about them
playing Feb. 6 at the Ritz (NYC) playing with members of the
Allmans, Widespread, PHISH, Blues Traveler, and I've forgotten
...
Fri, Oct. 15: Hampden-Syndney College, Farmville, VA
Sat, Oct. 16: William & Mary College, Williamsburg, VA
Tues, Oct. 19: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA, with The Hatters
Wed, Oct. 20: Floodzone, Richmond, VA
Thurs, Oct. 21: Ivory Tusk, Tuscaloosa, AL
Fri, Oct. 22: Louie, Louie's, Birmingham, AL
Sat, Oct. 23: The Metro, Chicago, IL, with The Samples
Sun, Oct. 24: The Metro, Chicago, IL, with The Samples
Tues, Oct. 26: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA
Wed, Oct. 27: Zollman's Pavillion, Lexington, VA
Fri, Oct. 29: The Bayou, Washington, DC
Sat, Oct. 30: Wetlands Preserve, New York, NY
Tues, Nov. 2: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA
Wed, Nov. 3: Floodzone, Richmond, VA
Thurs, Nov. 4: The Attic, Greenville, NC
Sat, Nov. 6: St. Christopher's School, Richmond, VA

-- 
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File



			

---------- Forwarded message ----------

......IT HAS FINALLY HAPPENED! The management of the Dave Mathews
Band has consented to and released high quality soundboards of
some of their best original material explicitly for distribution
through a net tree.
......If you haven't heard them, a bio and schedule follows in
the next message.  If you have heard them, you'll understand why
this tree is already huge even BEFORE an official announcement.
I've lost count of the number of people that signed up when I
didnt know the date, venue, setlists, or even the number of
wasted bandwidth, but I know that folks out there are interested
in this possibilty, one which has been resisted and delayed and
now, excitingly, has come through.
......THIS IS THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. The setlists and fillers
are specified below the following form.. Because of the high
demand already, I MUST HAVE the following info, each on a
(you may be able to insert this portion in your message back to
me, NOT the net):
Name
email address
RU willing to have leaves? (Y or N will suffice)
how many leaves would you be willing to have? (oft 3-6)
do U have tapes to trade? (Y or N will suffice)
dolby preference (A, B, C, or none; no preference - none)
equipment you would use to tape, inc. dolby capabilties
...
I won't discriminate against dual (dubbing) decks.
Please don't sign up again, if you already have.
.....
.....The Dave Mathews Band
.....6-26-93  The Bayou  Washington, DC
Tape 1 (Set One with Filler)
Dancing Nancies        Recently
Lie In Our Graves      Tripping Billies
Granny                 WATCHTOWER
Warehouse              The Maker (Daniel Lanois)
One Sweet World        Spotlight
...
Tape 2 (Set Two with Filler)
Seek Up                Minarets*
True Reflections       Blue Water
Typical Situation      What Would You Say
Dangerous Hours        Halloween
Ants Marching          Jimi Thing
..                     Pay For What You Get
*formerly called Screaming from the Minarets and on
the forthcoming album (mid-November).

-- 
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File



			

wha?  What's going on?  Whatever that message from Eric Budke sent me just
didn't make any sense... did I miss something?
Nebuious@aol.com
			

Wow.

That's all I've got to say.

The show was incredible.  First time I've seen them, and no tapes
(yet), so all the songs were unfamiliar, but I just can't think of
the words to say how great they were.  Especially Mr. Fiddle and Mr.
Woodwind.  (yes, I could look up the FAQ, but I'm still on a musical
high from the show).

Anyway, although I'm sure most people reading this group have seen
them before, if you haven't, by all means do it.

Ok, so that wasn't all I had to say.

			

I'm sorry if you got this already but I thought since I got about 20 new
requests this weekend I'd post it again for them.  I'm working on getting
this info. posted when you sign up that way everyone doesn't have to look
at it again.  Still working out some of the minor bugs, so let me know if
you have any troubles.

Alex Crothers 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

I'm the project manager of the DMB CD...the release date is now set for
November 2! The new disk is titled "Remember Two Things" and the track

Ants Marching/Tripping Billies/Recently/Satellite/One Sweet World/The Song
That Jane Likes/Minarets/Seek Up/I'll Back You Up/Christmas Song

The disk was produced by John Alagia and the Dave Matthews Band Sept/Oct
1993, and features both live cuts and studio tracks. It looks like this will
be the band's only independent release b/c a major-label deal is being
finalized as we speak and should be announced in Nov or Dec.

Do us a favor and inquire about the disk with your local record store! Record

Bama Rags Records
Coran Capshaw
(804) 979-9695/fax (804) 293-6510
PO Box 1911, Charlottesville VA 22903

Since this disk is not beind distributed through any of the major
distributors, we need to build a buzz through consumer demand...so ask the
stores!o


			

hey everybody, i'm going to make my debut to the new dave matthews
net with a good old fashioned grovel.  if anyone out there has
july 14, floodzone; aug 10, floodzone; aug 31, trax; let me know,
i have shows to trade and would really like anyone of these three
shows, particularly july 14.
in other news, if anyone knows of a roadie named alex who usually
sells t-shirts at flood zone shows, PLEASE send me his address and/or
phone number at university of richmond, cause i really need to get
in touch with him.
rick@sedgwick
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"...a looking glass he is holding up to you...what you see is human..."
			

i know that ellis has done a great job setting up the first tree on the phish
and horde nets, but now that we have got our own, lets get to it!  who can
get great shows from the band?  who has great shows they are willing to seed
now?  i have no idea how to run a tree, but with a new new, comes new
experiences!   oooh, this is so exciting!   dave
			

The new album-- WOW!  Aside from the songs that'll be on it and all that
jazz, did anyone note the producer?
A former girlfriend and still good friend of mine as an older sister who
went to Yale.  She was seeing this guy from the D.C. area.  He had a tape
of this duo called Derryberry and Alagia.  The first tape, called
Southpaw, was a whole album with just the two of them singing w/ guitars
(and occasionally you could here some bongos, congas, etc.).
Then, a friend of mine came across another album by them called "Rutabaga
Stew".  This was a bit more of a full band arrangement with bass, electric
guitars, etc.  It was put out by a small label in Northern Virginia, but I
never got around to calling them to get more info.
I found out about the DMB through totally separate channels (they opened
for the Samples on 4/21/93 in New York).  But what a weird coincidence.

Does anyone know more about Alagia?  

As well, I'm interested in trading for more DMB boots.  E-mail me if
interested.

Thanks for listening

------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------


			

Hey everyone! I am as of yet unintroduced to the DMB, though on the
current tree, and as I saw that the grovels have started, I thought I'd
jump on the wagon. So if anyone can get me started, I would be much
obliged. I have plenty to trade in the way of other bands. Also, I
live in Burlington VT, so does anyone know, how to get the band up here.
Obviously there are plenty of places to play if you are familiar with
all the good bands playing up here. Anyway maybe if the management could
get in touch with this system, especially since it's run out of
Burlington maybe us northerners could get a chance to see these guys!!!
I'm anxious to get my first taste! - murph -
			

i've got an idea that i think is pretty good as far as posting to
minarets.net is concerned.  seeing as this net is not nearly large
enough to be digestified yet, we all have to deal with those pesky
headers.  whoever posted about getting some trees started, good idea
but i couldn't seem to figure out who you are.  i think you would
be the management of this net, but i'm not sure.  i say, that until
we get this thing digestified, place your name and e-mail address at
the bottom of each post so that everyone knows exactly who you are
and how to get in touch with you without asking everyone.
as far as getting some trees going, i have what seems to be the
rather popular 11-17-92 show from trax, and also, a rather obscure
sep 7 show, though it isn't quite complete(and never will be seeing
as i was the only one recording).  i'd be willing to seed either one,
but i definitely don't have the time to organize a tree.
11-17-92
*granny(first time ever)       *granny(same show, different lyrics)
**cry freedom                  ***i'll back you up
*recently                      warehouse
pay for what you get           angel from montgomery
halloween                      true reflections
typical situation              me & julio
jimi thing                     two step--
song that jane likes           minarets
lie in our graves              blue water
satellite                      ants marching
lover lay down                 best of what's around(date unknown)
one sweet world                *christmas song(3-23-93)
*--acoustic
**--acoustic with help from peter(the keyboardist if you don't know)
***-acoustic with help from stefan
i can't recall the sep 7 setlist right now, but i can
say that it can either be seeded as a single 110 minute tape (but that
would be evil, cause 110's drag so bad) or combined with the rest of
3-23-93 to fill three 90 minute tapes pretty well.  i'll post the
setlists for both sep 7 and 3-23 as soon as i can.
rick@sedgwick
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
in search of the fearless wonder llama....
			

Yeah, getting these guys to come up north of 52nd street in manhattan
(Roseland Ballroom) seems to be a feat not yet accomplished.  Too bad. 
There are of course plenty of prime places (Burlington, Cambridge, etc.)
but it may be that they're not too confident on getting a turn-out.  Well,
I think this net will help show management that we're aware of the great
music.

BTW, does _anyone_ have any info on John Alagia, producer?


------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------


			

DMB tunes?  I've messed around with a few, but I'd like to hear if anyone
else has.  Perhaps they could be written up in tabulature and posted or
e-mailed to those who are interested.  Any takers?



 Shawn Peters 


			

ok so hows this system work
just picked it up 10 min. ago
or so
			

ok so hows this system work
just picked it up 10 min. ago
or so

if you wanna TEST please type the subject as "Test" and preferably don't
send your unsubstanitive messages to the many many many readers of
minaretsnet until you've asked around and figured out what you're doing.  i
don't mean to rag on you too much, but i know there are computer
consultants at carleton college who could help you out.  please talk to
them, okay?

love,daniel

----------gnome boy-----------

			

I think this net will help show management that we're aware of the great
music.


perhaps the net will help, depending on how closely involved DMB
"officials" are.  are they, or is this grassroots fans?  if the
management's not following the net, some snailmail might be encouraging
enough to bring DMB up to Providence (a far better location than Cambridge
:) ).  Seriously, if they are already working on a major-label signing,
they ought to at least truck on up their side of the country...

love,daniel

---------gnome boy--------

p.s. my post a second ago about "testing" doesn't mean to imply just that
one tester, it's everyone new.  try to get some info on what you're doing
before you do it; the info is readily available.  also, (as everyone
reading this already knows) subscription requests shouldn't be sent to the
whole readership.  these points should be emphasized; some people are
paying to read email, others already get bulk email and don't need extra
with no content.  but if you have something to say, SHOOT!  hope to hear
good info from you all...
apoligies if i was too harsh on carleton college writer, didn't mean it
personally.

			

     Howdy.  Anyone ever bothered to sit down and work out the guitar to any
DMB tunes?  I've messed around with a few, but I'd like to hear if anyone
else has.  Perhaps they could be written up in tabulature and posted or
e-mailed to those who are interested.  Any takers?


i've actually picked out a substantial amount of dmb, but i'm absolutely
no good at translating it into tab, particularly given the complexity of
some of his changes.  i tend to come to uva once a month and if i
have the time i might look you up and maybe we could sit down and show
each other what we know.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
			

Daniel Gold asked the question whether this was a grassroots organization
or not.  well yes and no.  It was started by me with the help of a couple
of others (Eric and Ellis) but soon after it started (this weekend) I got
E-mail from Thane Kerner and Baylor Fooks in Charlottesville, VA.
These guys are the project mangers and designers for the new CD and work
with closely with Dave, Coran and Ross.  So it was started by fans (as it
should be) but has the support of the band.  I'm not sure how Thane and
Baylor are connected to the Internet (is it through the office at Trax?  I
would doubt it.) but they are.  I working on some of the bugs in the
system right now so if you have any suggestions let me know.  Thanks

Alex Crothers





			

with dave matthews playing in c-ville every other week and richmond
every other week, why won't he come to harrisonburg once a month.
it's only an hour away.  i know that the same arguments holds for
us who want to see him, why don't we just go to c-ville?  well, dave
plays until 2am and we have classes on wednesday here at jmu, plus,
i know a lot of people who don't have the access to get to c-ville,
not to mention an entire freshman class who's never heard him.
rumor has it that dave doesn't like the crowd that show up to see
him when he comes here, but believe me, i've seen some pretty bad
crowds at trax and c-ville.  i even have a show where he gives subtle
hints to the fact that he is really pissed at the crowd he's playing
for at trax.  somebody clue us 'burgers in.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
			

Hey guys! In response to the theory that DMB would be afraid of a none-
to-substantial fan base up here(N.E.), well all bands have to go that
route, unless of course you're some pop band who's just made for video.
Bands like the Ominous Seapods, Water, Motel Brown, Chin Ho!, etc.
play around here sometimes to crowds less than 20. All except Water are
semi-local bands. Actually I'm sure about MB either, but you get the
point. You must expand to spread the word. Anyway, my $.02 - murph -
			

my grades may very well go to hell in a hand bucket for this one, but
i'm going to volunteer my services as a lyrics.file and FAQ for this
net.  having two separate computer accounts makes it somewhat feasible
for me to this, so if the administrations around here needs any help,
i'm willing to become a part of it.  btw, alex, seeing as your the
head here, i could use your e-mail address, 'cause i lost it.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
and without further ado, since this _is_ minarets net, here is my
best interpretation of that very song.  anything in parantheses is
a guess, and all lyrics are open to further interpretation.
turn off your mind, relax, and float downstream
(this is relieving)
(this is relieving)
(let all sorrows surrender to the waves)
of the beginning
of the beginning
sometime i choose your children
sometime i virgin child
all i want is (to you your) fighting
in our time faith justifies
brother caged babylon will fall
sister chained unbound beat and i'm bleeding
tv's on to me this explains it
wearing a tie like daddy speaks it
screaming from the minarets
sometimes right here dave adlibs a bit
and even when i'll be dancing
screaming from the minarets
yes indeed i'm making faces
lay down the ground in his space god has grown
(and unto a) man looking glass in his hand he is holding
up to you
what you see what you see what you see is human
what you see what you see what you see is human
what you see what you see what you see is human
			

murph used the words "non to substantial fan base" in his post on
dmb going north east.  our problem here in harrisonburg, according
to heresay, is that he just doesn't like us, no matter how many of
us show up.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
			

i always thought it was "so tomorrow you choose your children" or such.  if
anyone knows the band, do you think we could get some verification on a lot of
the lyrics?  while dave has an awesome voice, it ain't always that easy to
			

I keep trying to mail you my E-mail address but it keeps bouncing so I had
to do this over the net as a last resort.  Anyway my E-mail address is
easy (as least compared to yours $-) jcrother@moose.uvm.edu

thanks for volunteering

I sense a lot of hostility between DMB and H'burg??

Alex Crothers



			

How many people are on the DMB net here?

If it's an acceptable #, I could theoretically organize a tree, but
it'd have to be limited to the people on this list, as I simply
couldn't handle 100's of requests.  (Tho, if there are that many
people on this list, that may cancel me out as well.)

Anyway, if it's a low #, I'd be willing to handle a small tree.



--
Once it's too late you appreciate what a miracle life is.  You
realize that nature is ruthless and our existence is very fragile,
temporary, and precious.  But to go on with your daily affairs, you
can't really think about that.  Which is probably why everyone takes
the world for granted and we act so thoughtlessly.
.. and may never now know   / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
if I am a fool              /     Brett Kingswell     /
or have done what my        /     bmking@mail.wm.edu  /

			

Just to point out
what most probably already know
and that is that the opening lines of minarets
those being
turn off your mind  relax  float downstream
are Beatles lines
off Revolver???
and i've only heard Dave use them once (at the Prism)
not that that means he doesn't use them more
also
does he say "and even when i'll be dancing"
or,
Later On We'll All Be Dancing...
anyway
my apologies for my 'public' ignorance earlier

another c'ville native (like Plunket),
Ed (Moose)
er whatever...No doubt.
			

A while ago on phishnet, I made a request for the Wetlands shows this past
summer, 6-24-93 and 7-22-93.  Some guy answered and I hacven't heard from
him since, so does anyone else out there have them, and if you do, would
you be willing to make a copy for me?  We can either trade or I'll send
you some blanks.  Thanks, Sue

sdeutsch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu

-- "Hands and feet are all alike, but words divide us"


			

ed from carleton's message got me to thinking.  he and i went to high school
together at charlottesville high, boyd's alma mater.  plus i know that out
there somewhere drew is lurking :) and so did he.  anyone else from cville, not
just a uva student, on this bright new net?  just curious
			

Dave Matthews Band is entirely too big for any bar in Harrisonburg.  Unless
the virtually worthless UPB at JMU chooses to hire them for a gig (which they
probably won't...but maybe I'm wrong) the band wont play here.  If you are
a freshman at JMU, you should have no problem finding a ride to Charlottesville
on a Tuesday or Richmond on a Wednesday (You will have a problem dealing with
the Trax crowd I imagine ;) )  DMB is huge in this area.  TONS of people go
down every week.  Good luck seeing the band...(BTW- I recommend seeing DMB at
Flood Zone over Trax...over the past few months, the Trax crowds have gotten
almost intolerable...affects the mood as well as the band's playing and en-
joyment...I've seen them really miserable on the Trax stage on more than one
occasion.)
			

i'm not a substantial beatles fan, and was not aware that those lines
came from a beatles tune, but it in no way surprises me.  i myself am
an aspiring musician who finds that some of my own music, which i know
i came up with on my own, is strikingly similar to a song i've never
heard before.  at the flood zone i've seen dave twice sing the opening
lines of 'dancing in the streets' to (of all songs) recently.  thanx
for pointing this out to me(including those who e-mailed personal
messages).  as for the 'and even when i'll be dancing', i have
three show that agree with that.  we all know that dave tends to
change lyrics on a moments notice, granny being a good example(the
original, played on 11-17-92 was almost depressing), so you may
be right as far as any shows you might have on tape.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
			

What has happened to the crowd at Trax to make it so miserable?


			

What has happened to the crowd at Trax to make it so miserable?


--
Brett Kingswell
bmking@mail.wm.edu
BBB/loligo/zoo/bert/icka bicka momma clucka/eggs/alone/142 W. Torch Lake Drive

			

What has happened to the crowd at Trax to make it so miserable?
In my opinion, lately the Trax crowds have been too drunk, loud and
disinterested in the music.  Tuesday nights have become a social scene more
than a musical experience.  I think the club's proximity to the school affects
the crowds.  It's too easy for shitface "wahoos" to go to DMB and scream their
heads off while trying to get laid.  It's a far cry from the old Tuesday scene
at Trax.  I feel a wider touring range would help the band not only grow more
widespread (ie the hungry North Easterners) but would also give them a fresh
perspective on playing live.  I have talked to Dave after Trax shows when
he has been very bummed about the crowd.  They just "stomp on your buzz".
			

Well, I personally am gonna try to get them in the Albany area, if
anyone from cellar door, who has information would ever call me back.
I never seem to talk to the right guy.

Anyway, I may try to work them into playing here at school (of course
it'll be open to outsiders) or at a bar in Albany (hopefully make it
all ages)
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

i have a show which shows dave's contempt for the crowd at trax.
as early as the end of the first set you can hear the entire crowd
screaming "HALLOWEEN" at the top of there lungs.  the band continues
right on through the night without any hint to where the song might
come in(though everyone knows that the encore is a good place for bets).
so the encore finally comes around, people are still screaming for
halloween song and dave says casually into the mike "me and carter
are going to do our seasonal song now."  halloween has been done
without a bass line before with just as much energy, but dave and
carter break into (one of the best versions i've ever heard)---
christmas song.  personally i find christmas song to be as powerful
a song as halloween, but a crowd as inebriated as trax was that night
is sure to disagree.  i thought it was funny, but decided that from
then on the flood zone is definitely a better place to see the band,
but i can't get that far without my own car.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"work ourselves, fingers to the bone
			

i dig what you're saying about the trax crowd,
this summer shows were an incrediable bother
dealing with those drunk nonmellows, out to be trendy, tuck in the oxford,
etc..don't care about music crowd...
excuse the grammar and don't forget about those high schoolers (not that i
didn't go in high school but whatever...)
it's too bad the home home crowd is starting to piss off the band.
also, not to offend those who tuck in their oxfords it's just that
wahoos can certainly start to look the same...
			

Something must be done.  Those of us north of NYC are itching to see the
band, and down at Trax they're giving 'em a hard time.  I know I'm
preaching to the converted here (you netters all know how GOOD they are)
but come on folks, can't you appreciate what you've got?


------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------


			

There's got to be some way we can collectively contact management and beg,
right?  We'll show some down-home _Northern_ hospitality in Burlington,
Albany, Providence and Cambridge.  Wow-- a mini-tour is already taking
shape ;-).  Should someone organize a snail-mail campaign?
Where should I write?

------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------


			

wahoos? HIGH SCHOOLERS? ;-)
I'll have you know that I'm a sophmore that can attend a show without
screaming freebird at the top of my lungs 500 times... (though it is quite
funny when said at the right time!)
But to more worldy matters,
don't you think there are enough messages for day... make that per HOUR to
warrant a digestified service?  All I can say is my overstufffed mailbox is
leading me to believe that i may soon get hate mail from my phriendly
postman!
thanks.

just another memo from the cellar,

*********************************************************************
* "The musical growth rate of this  * "[Is] everyone  nowadays      *
*  band can not even be charted."   *  thirled to a formula?"       *
*       -Review of "Spinal Tap"     *      -Josephine Tey           *
*********************************************************************
* "And when you chistle my epitaph,      *  Nebuious@aol.com        *
*  leave out the part about the treason" *  BENSTERLING@Delphi.com  *
*          -Chris Barron                 *                          *
********************************************************************* 
			

As whoever sent this last messages pointed out there have been a lot of
messages coming through minarets.net.  I can make this digestified if
everyone thinks that would be better.  When I set it up I figured the
volume of mail coming through would be small like horde.net and fine-wine
but maybe I underestimated the power of the DMB. $-)  What do you all
think?  It can easily be digestified.  I'll leave it up to the majority.

Alex Crothers




			

over 20 pieces today already, i believe.
granted, it will probably slow down, but still...

love,daniel

-------gnome boy--------

			

If there's enough demand for it, do it.

I personally prefer normal mail procedures, but that's beside the
point.  If enough of the subscribers want it, do it.

(nb - there IS probably more traffic now, at the start of the list,

--
Brett Kingswell
bmking@mail.wm.edu
BBB/loligo/zoo/bert/icka bicka momma clucka/eggs/alone/142 W. Torch
			

Come on.  It's been three days.  Why not wait it out a little.  Hell,
with the digest you still get the same messages.  Why not just filter
your mail, so you have a dmb folder.

Granted volume has bee high recently, but it's only been three days.

There has been little of substance to come through and there is only
so much of that, it should die down (don't tell the people on
Phish.net).  My guess is that in a week or two the traffic will be low
again.  Let's face it.  They aren't doing any big touring, they are
only playing like twice a week in VA.  What is there to share?
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------




 over 20 pieces today already, i believe.
 granted, it will probably slow down, but still...
 
 love,daniel
 
 -------gnome boy--------
 

YES!  YES!  I've recevied somewhere around 40 messages since last night.

As Madonna would say, "Digestify my love."

			

Here's one vote in favor of non-digestification.  Traffic will die down soon.
And it's so much more convienient the way it is.  Though being on any mailing
list must be rough if you don't have have mail filtering setup.  Setting
it up isn't trivial, if enough people ask me how I'll write up a few paragraphs
on it, and post here, horde.net, finewine, etc...  Though my knowledge is
limited to unix and the 'filter' program...


			

Well, maybe not.  If the list was digestified, I wouldn't be able to
comment on what other people had said about digestification.
I abstain for now.

------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------


			

I just  used the following format and got a digest back, so
if you want to digest you can do so individually at your preference

To digest send to
listproc@moose.uvm.edu


set minarets@moose.uvm.edu mail digest 



			

Oh yeah!  Digestify!
			

with dave matthews playing in c-ville every other week and richmond
every other week, why won't he come to harrisonburg once a month.

Has he cut down the number of c'ville shows?  I thought he used to
play there every Tuesday.  Anybody know the phone number to Trax, I'd
like to call ahead before driving 2.5 hours from Blacksburg just to
find that he isn't playing on a given night...

-Dave
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu
			

over 20 pieces today already, i believe.
granted, it will probably slow down, but still...


I gotta agree, my system administrator is gonna tear me a new butthole
if I keep overflowing my mailbox...

-Dave
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu
			

Sounds like something you do after drinking too much. $-)

anyway. There were some people who wanted the list digestified abd some
that thought mailings would die down soon so why digestify it.  So rather
than digestify the whole list only to (maybe) undigestify it in a month or
so I'm just going to let everyone take it into their own hands.  Someone
pointed this out earlier but people are still sending me messages about
digestification so I'll post it again.

To digestify your own list send the message "set minarets mail digest" to
listproc@moose.uvm.edu  that should take care of it.  If it doesn't let me
know.

Alex Crothers


			

Has he cut down the number of c'ville shows?  I thought he used to
play there every Tuesday.  Anybody know the phone number to Trax, I'd
like to call ahead before driving 2.5 hours from Blacksburg just to
find that he isn't playing on a given night...

-Dave
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu
actually, for a while, there was a rumor that dave was leaving c-ville
all together, but that apparently isn't the case anymore.  i try to
make it a habit to _always_ make absolutely sure that dave is playing
trax or flood zone before going, because i've gone three times to the
flood zone, payed my five bucks, and found boyd, leroi, and carter
jammin' with some unknowns out of c-ville(or sometimes indecision),
and it just ain't the same without dave up front.  the trax # is
295-trax, and fz is (don't hold me to this--)643-6006.  i've also
included daves current touring schedule, which is set in stone.
...
Wed, Oct. 20: Flood Zone, Richmond VA
Thurs, Oct. 21: Ivory Tusk, Tuscaloosa, AL
Fri, Oct. 22: Louie, Louie's, Birmingham, AL
Sat, Oct. 23: The Metro, Chicago, IL, with The Samples
Sun, Oct. 24: The Metro, Chicago, IL, with The Samples
Tues, Oct. 26: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA
Wed, Oct. 27: Zollman's Pavillion, Lexington, VA
Fri, Oct. 29: The Bayou, Washington, DC
Sat, Oct. 30: Wetlands Preserve, New York, NY
Tues, Nov. 2: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA
Wed, Nov. 3: Floodzone, Richmond, VA
Thurs, Nov. 4: The Attic, Greenville, NC
Sat, Nov. 6: St. Christopher's School, Richmond, VA
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
			

yes, there is a mail connection at theDMB office at TRAX, though
America Online.
			

TIME FOR A DIGESTIFIED LIST!!! 56 messages in 15 hours is a hoot,
but a bit unmanageable. If it doesnt slow down in the next few
weeks, a digesteified list will be a must or we're gonna lose
people.
			

Well, things certainly have quieted down out here in cyberspace.

------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------


			

I'm a DMB fan here in Carlisle, PA (Dickinson College) but I'm originally 
from Lexington -- my dad teaches at W&L.  Anyway, does anyone at W&L know if 
the Oct. 27 show will be open to everyone?  Last time I tried to see DMB at 
Zollman's, security wouldn't let me in because I didn't have a W&L ID.  That 
was okay last June when I was 10 minutes from Zollman's but I'd really like 
to know before I drag 4 of my friends 4 hours to not be let in.  Help?

Thanks,

Reid Spice
-SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
			

all right.
i've got a project for anyone interested in helping me out.  i'm
writing a FAQ(which i'll post here as soon as i like what's in it)
and a lyrics file.  if you want to help me with the lyrics file,
just sit down one afternoon, pick a song _not_ from the list below,
and see if you can pick out some lyrics.  send them to me at the
address below, or maybe even post them and compare(maybe it'll
make this net as lively as it was 30 hours ago ;).
true reflections
lie in our graves
so much to say
dangerous hours
pay for what you get
minarets
tripping billies
i'm not saying that i have these 7 songs written in stone, but i'd
like to get some more songs in the works.  try to use a recent as
granny
halloween
christmas
warehouse
jimi thing
rhyme and reason
and any other song that has a strong tendency to sound like a large
mass of dave talk.
thanx a bunch--i look forward to hearing some ideas.
and stay tuned for your chance to ask bunches 'o questions for the FAQ.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
			

To all those of you in VA...I need some help.
I am currently booking the November Virginia tour for Hypnotic Clambake, a
really cool klezmer/reggae/folk/bluegrass crazy band out of Boston.  I figure
there are a lot of us Virginia college students here on Minarets.net, so here's
There is one crucial Friday (the 19th) that remains to be scheduled.  I would
like to find a cool frat house that wants a cool band to play at a party or
something.  Let me know if you know of such a place.  Include names and #'s
if at all possible.
Also, if you know a cool club I may have overlooked, tell me about it.  I
already know about Trax, Flood Zone, South Main Cafe, Bayou, etc. but if you
think you may know a place I don't (especially in Richmond) let me know.
Thanks for any help anyone can offer...
			

Ah, a digest would be nice.  However, I noticed a message about filtering
mail.  Being a self-taught vax person, I haven't learned this.  How does
one go about putting certain mail in a certain folder (other than NEWMAIL)?
Thanks,
--Will Seay
			

The Zollmann's show, as far as I know is open to everyone.  It's the
Halloween party which has always been open.  There are rumores of it being
closed, but I'm trying to find out what the deal really is.  The show last
June was closed because it was Senior Party and underclassmen had to pay
$5 to get in.  However, they played last January and it was open.  Who's
your father and what department is he in?  Do you know Baner at all? 
Baner could get you in if you know him.  If you have any friends from
Lexington who go here, try to go with them.


			

The questions in my last message were directed at Reid Spice, sorry I
didn't specify. Anyway, Reid -- I had your father for Music 120 last fall,
he's a really fun professor.




			

i've asked this once before, and i'm asking again.  if you post
to minarets.net, PLEASE identify yourself with a name and an e-mail
address.  this net isn't like phish.net which pops a name to the
beginning of everything one posts.  sometimes we can find an id
in the header of the letter, but sometimes your identified by a
big jumble of numbers that is a specific id to the letter you sent
in.  at least put your name, so we all have some way of identifying
each other.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
			

-murph - (ar_murphy@smcvax.smcvt.edu)
			

The number for TRAX (in Charlottesville, VA) is (804) 295-TRAX (8729, i
think). If you call and get voice mail, you can hit 1 for concert info (2 is
to leave a message; do this only for serious inquiries and important stuff,
please.)  If you're driving in from out of town, let them know that at the
door, especially if you're driving in from out of state. I think they'd like
to know that, and if they know that folks are driving as much as some of you
are (four hours? wow!), then there's a good chance that some gigs could be
added closer, to meet that demand. So walk on down to TRAX, tromp through
that door, and say, "Hi! I'm a Minaret Head from ______. This is gonna be a
great show!"  

For most shows, doors open at 9 p.m, tickets are $6, and the show starts
around 10:30.  Some nights, DMB is out of town and TRAX features !ALMA! or
the Charlottesville All-Stars, both of which are various combinations of
Reynolds!!!!!!), etc.

For the most part, DMB plays TRAX on Tuesdays and (I think this part is still
right) the Floodzone (Richmond, VA) on Wednesdays. On some occasions, as
there was last night (10/19), there may be an opening band. Last night was
the Hatters, formerly the Mad Hatters. (To note, their soundman, Ben Folsom,
used to be the soundman for the Jolly Llamas and was, in the interim, house
sound dude at TRAX.)
			

Well, eventually they reply-to header will be fixed to reply to the
original sender, but in the meantime if you type h on most mail
systems it will give you the headers and the person it's from is in
should always be there, it ain't gonna dissapear.
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

Hey everybody.  It now looks as though the original sender is now the
one who the reply-to address goes to.  So ya can just hit r to reply
to that person.  And must mail the list directly.   Yipeee, no more
searching headers (kinda timely since my first message coincided with
the beging of this)
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

Forgot my email address I think...if you have ideas for venues (frats/clubs)
for Hypnotic Clambake, email me at stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
			

This is the current touring schedule for the Dave Matthews Band.
...
Wed, Oct. 20: Flood Zone, Richmond VA
Thurs, Oct. 21: Ivory Tusk, Tuscaloosa, AL
Fri, Oct. 22: Louie, Louie's, Birmingham, AL
Sat, Oct. 23: The Metro, Chicago, IL, with The Samples
Sun, Oct. 24: The Metro, Chicago, IL, with The Samples
Tues, Oct. 26: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA
Wed, Oct. 27: Zollman's Pavillion, Lexington, VA
Fri, Oct. 29: The Bayou, Washington, DC
Sat, Oct. 30: Wetlands Preserve, New York, NY
Tues, Nov. 2: TRAX, Charlottesville, VA   CD RELEASE PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed, Nov. 3: Floodzone, Richmond, VA
Thurs, Nov. 4: The Attic, Greenville, NC
Sat, Nov. 6: St. Christopher's School, Richmond, VA
The number for TRAX (in Charlottesville, VA) is (804) 295-TRAX (8729, i
think). If you call and get voice mail, you can hit 1 for concert info (2 is
to leave a message; do this only for serious inquiries and important stuff,
please.)  If you're driving in from out of town, let them know that at the
door, especially if you're driving in from out of state. I think they'd like
to know that, and if they know that folks are driving as much as some of you
are (four hours? wow!), then there's a good chance that some gigs could be
added closer, to meet that demand. So walk on down to TRAX, tromp through
that door, and say, "Hi! I'm a Minaret Head from ______. This is gonna be a
great show!"
For most shows, doors open at 9 p.m, tickets are $6(tack on an extra
dollar if your under 21), and the show starts around 10:30-11:00.
Some nights, DMB is out of town and TRAX features !ALMA! or the
Charlottesville All-Stars, both of which are various combinations of
Reynolds!!!!!!), etc, and also includes some members of The Dave Matthews
_Band_ such as Boyd, Leroi, and Carter.
For the most part, DMB plays TRAX on Tuesdays and (I think this part is still
right) the Floodzone (Richmond, VA) on Wednesdays. On some occasions, as
there was last night (10/19), there may be an opening band. Last night was
the Hatters, formerly the Mad Hatters. (To note, their soundman, Ben Folsom,
used to be the soundman for the Jolly Llamas and was, in the interim, house
sound dude at TRAX.)
--
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg va, 22807
administrator for minarets.net FAQ file
			

FRIDAY IN BIRMINGHAM AND A FRIEND AND MYSELF HAVE ARRANGED TO GO.  THIS
EVENING SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT LOUIE LOUIE'S WAS CLOSED DOWN?  PLEASE LET ME
KNOW OF THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO..  AT HSC THIS PAST WEEKEND BOYD GAVE
SOME FRIENDS GUEST PASSES THERE.  IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

			

ok, hopefully, or maybe this worked

*****************************************************************************
Daniel W. Schar Dept. of Biology/Marine Science. University of South Carolina
*****************************************************************************


			

Let me know if there is a problem with this upcoming so?  My brother
runs/manages Zollmans's so I can let him know that the minarets are
coming. 8-)  It sounded like it was only a problem at one show there
though so hopefully we won't have to fool with my brother.  But let me
know ahead of time if there is going to be a problem.  Anyway, look for my
brother there.  You can't miss him.  He's 6'5", completely dry, blond hair
carrying around alot of photo equipment.  Yes, he will be taking pictures
too.  He took the pictures for their new album so he's pretty pysched
about that.  

Alex Crothers 


			

Just wanted to send a general message asking how everything is going
concerning the workings of the net.
Specifically, how does everyone like the way the new headers set up?  Only
E-mail me if you have problems with it.  I don't want 30 messages saying
that you like it.  I got back to my machine today and had 75 messages-most
of them stupid.  So just let me know if you don't like it or think it
could be improved somehow.

And I assume the self-digestification is working out well for everyone.

Thanks
Alex Crothers





			

well, i've got 7 songs in the lyrics file now (out of some 33 :),
and figured i had enough to send them out to whoever wanted them.
ants marching and tripping billies still need some work, and any help
would be greatly appreciated.  i would post it, but i want to see
demand first.  send your request to stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu.
from the album "Remember Two Things"
Dangerous Hours
Lie in our Graves
Pay For What You Get
So Much to Say
True Reflections
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
			

Just thought all of you might be interested in trying the Compact Disk
Connection which I just discovered.  Really cool and cheap CD ordering
service via email and they seem to have everything.  You can run all kinds
of searches...huge library!  Anyway, try it out...
			

only to hear one set even if it was a long set.  The only other time I saw
the band play only one set was a few weeks ago at Van Riper's but that
really doesn't count.  Watchtower was incredible and Recently was another
high point.  One thing that made an impression on me was that the band
didn't follow Minarets with Blue Water.  I've come to think of them as one
song.  Well that's about it.  What did everyone else think?  I'm curious
			

Are there any kind souls out there who would be willing to accept blanks for
a copy of any show between Aug 93 - present?  I took a few of my
apartment-mates to see DMB for the first time this week and they were
especially impressed with Warehouse and Dangerous Hours.  Anything really
with one or both of these on them would be great.  Thanks much,

 Shawn Peters 


			

who out there is up for the first roll call of our lil' net?  ooh, ooh, me, me,
me, me!  ok, ok, calm dawn kids.  let see here. . .lemme take a look around and
see who i got. . .oh yeah, its just me.  well then, dave plunkett, present and
accounted for. . .oh yeah, 2STEP!
			

had never heard of them until I saw them there.  I do remember liking their
sound, but I didn't rush out and buy all their music.  Then I came down to
school and one day saw a flier around campus that they would be playing at
The Floodzone in downtown Richmond, VA.  A asked a girl in my hall if she
wanted to go with me and she flipped out.  Evidently she
has been listening to them ever since the beginning when they came out
with their first album self titled, The Samples.  She brought over a tape
of their first album, b/c at the time they hadn't rereleased their first
disk and it was really hard to get a hold of, so I listened to their the
whole album and immediately couldn't wait to see their show.  Now I know
that they don't jam on any of their albums, except maybe Underwater People,
but never the less their lyrics and sound is really good.
say anything on the Horde-net about them?  A I the only one out their who
really likes their music?  I was lucky enough to get a taped copy of
the show at the Floodzone, from a guy here at U of R who knows the guy on
good show, friendly with the crowd, and even managed to jam.  Does anyone
else out there agree or disagree?  There must be a couple more Samples fans
out there, I hope.
the GSW tour dates, anyway I was psyched to see that God Street Wine IS
coming to The Floodzone.  When I got their August/September newsletter it
said that they were tenatively playing in Richmond at the end of Sept. but
then they moved the show to the D.C. area.  I was bumbed, but now there
is gonna be a show and I'm definitely gonna be there.  Will anyone else
out there in the greater Richmond, VA area join me?
anyone else out there heard of them?  I just went to a show on Tuesday night
and it was incredible.  If you've ever heard them play you know what I mean.
If you haven't heard of them then I tell you what I know.  There from some
where in Virginia I think, because he does a lot of shows in the Richmond
area.  The lead singer is Dave, he has a black drummer, black saxaphonist,
and a kick-ass guy on violin/fiddle who really got the place rocking.
There's also a bass player, but he kinda stood on the side, didn't seem
really into it.  I
I'm pretty sure that they're playing NYC on October 30.  If your in the
area definitely go see him.  If anyone is really interested I can post
his tour schedule for the rest of the month, but I don't have it with me
right now.
a killer weekend.
			

The tour dates are out.  I have questions (sorry if this has been
asked/answered before) about new material being released.  I hear that there is
a live album set to appear around Nov. 2nd?  True?  And then a studio album
that will be out in December some time?  If these albums are really coming out,
what label?  Independent or major?  Does anyone know the exact dates?  And
where abnnd when was the live album recorded?  

Okay, enough questions for one post.  Take care.

Reid
-SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU

			

I'll tell you what I know.  Or at least what I've heard.  The Nov. 2 album
contains both live and (I think) some studio material.  Some of the live
material is from this summer at The Muse in Nantucket.  (Three songs I
think)  The Nov. 2 album will be on an independent label but their next
album will be with a major/minor (?) label.  Don't know when the second
album is coming out.  Sorry these answers are so vague but I don't want to
say anything for sure because I heard all of this information second
(third ?) hand, and not from Dave.  Anyone else out there able to
add/correct some of this information.

alex Crothers


			

The 8/19/93 show at the Wetlands was recorded by the band.  My friend who
was taping heard that they were in the process of recording six shows
along the east coast (that would be during mid-August).
Well, we'll see soon.

BTW, what's the best way to get the album-- given that I don't want to
spend lots of time badgering local record stores to get it, and more
importantly, that I want it ON november 2nd, not weeks later.


------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------



			

Minaretters-
Does Anyone have any nice sounding low-gen SBD's to trade for
1st gen SBD tapes of 6/22 and 7/6 1993 at Trax? I need to get my
DMB list growing!
Kwon
BH7N@MusicB.Mcgill.Ca
"si hace Crack, es bun"
			

I've found some mics that I really like, and am currently saving up
the money to purchase them, but I've run into a small snag.  Which
capsule should I get with them.

I'm looking at the AKG 460's cause I've really liked some shows I've
taped with them, or gotten tapes of shows with.  One is a dead show
recorded with the short shotgun attachment.  I can't afford this yet
as the attachment is 299 a piece list.

So I am then left looking at either the cartiod capsule, the
hypercartiod capsule and the omni capsule which all seem to go for
around the same price.  These are the CK 61-3 capsules if that
clarifies things.

I recorded from the lawn at Stowe with a non shotgun attachment and
the clarity and lack of crowd noise was unbelieveable.  

Much of my recoding would be from bars to theaters.  Probably not
arenas, no dead, and I don't forsee stadiums.  

So if ya got some opinions, I'll be happy to hear them,   Any
outstanding reason not to get the AKG's,  any other accessories that I
will need for portable recording?
(besides a deck, I got one of those, Denon DTR 80p)

Also a good place to get all of this stuff cheap would help.

Thanks for any and all help.  Sorry for the bandwidth if this wasn't
your cup of tea.
-- 
Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Com)			  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			    518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			

told that when I started attending Washington & Lee in Lexington, Va., DMB
would be the biggest band around. Being from New Jersey, I had never heard
of DMB, although my friend told me I would like them because she knew
my musical taste.  Now that I am at W&L, and have seen DMB a few times, I
realize my friend was right.  So what I'd like to do now is get a hold of
some good sounding DMB shows to get an even better feel for the band and
their music.  I do have one really good tape where the first side is a mix
of different songs recoreded live on DAT. The second side is just Dave and
his guitar in the studio? playing some tunes.  Again the sound on both
sides is exellent.  Besides that, I have about 100 hrs of Phish that I'd
be willing to trade for DMB.  So if anyone out thereis interested, drop me
a line.  Thanks for taking the time to read this.  OH! Also, if you are
going to be at Zolleman's in Lexington Va. on the 27th, let me know
because I'll be there too! Thanks again.


			

Here's some more info about the upcoming album that I forgot I had.  Hope
this helps all those wondering about it.

alex Crothers
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
...the release date is now set for November 2! The new disk is titled

Ants Marching/Tripping Billies/Recently/Satellite/One Sweet World/The Song
That Jane Likes/Minarets/Seek Up/I'll Back You Up/Christmas Song

The disk was produced by John Alagia and the Dave Matthews Band Sept/Oct
1993, and features both live cuts and studio tracks. It looks like this will
be the band's only independent release b/c a major-label deal is being
finalized as we speak and should be announced in Nov or Dec.

Do us a favor and inquire about the disk with your local record store! Record

Bama Rags Records
Coran Capshaw
(804) 979-9695/fax (804) 293-6510
PO Box 1911, Charlottesville VA 22903

Since this disk is not beind distributed through any of the major
distributors, we need to build a buzz through consumer demand...so ask the
stores!o


			

Is anyone going to be there?
Does anyone know what's up w/ Wetlands?
Should we have a net gathering? 8-) just kidding.

Anyway, I'm going to be there taping and I was wondering if anyone else
from minarets was planning on going also.  Maybe we can get together and
do some trading (pref. DAT).  Let me know before next weekend so I can
bring some stuff that might be useful.  I've never been to Wetlands so can
anyone give me any insight into things I should/shouldn't do/bring? 
Hope to see some of you soon.

Has anyone else noticed how much minarets has dyed down since its
announcement last week? 8-)

Do you think I should make another post to Horde.Net,Phish.Net,Fine-Wine,..
about minarets again or should I leave it be?  Don't want to waste more
bandwidth but want people to know it's here. 

By the way, Zollman's IS a private party but...........my brother said it
probably not going to be that hard to get in if you are not part of the
"private party"  BTW, the "private party" consists of 4 W&L frats!  My
brother THINKS that you may still be able to get in for something like $5.
Remeber this is just what my brother THINKS.  He doesn't know for sure and
I wouldn't drive a couple of hours on this assumption.  Check it out
first, I'm just relaying what I found out.

alex Crothers



			

i've sent out the lyrics file, now, so if you've requested it and
didn't get it, send another request, and i'll try to get it to you
as soon as possible.
as for the subject line, karen moon, i know you didn't get the message
because your computer account won't accept internet mail right now.
call your computer center and yell obscenities at them, then request
it again.
rick thompson
stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
"the tv's on...to me this explains it."
			

Can anybody confirm or deny what I heard last night - Dave Matthews 
Band is opening for the Jerry Garcia Band on a few east coast shows
in November.  

Any feedback would be appreciated

-Dave
dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu
			

The Dave Mathews Band CD Release Party will be NOV 9, NOT NOV 2,
as previously announced, according to Chris Bowman of TRAX. There
will be a special guest opening on the 9th, but I forgot who. At
midnight, there will be a special appearance/performance at Plan
9 Records in Charlottesville (on Main Street, about two blocks
from TRAX) for the release, and, I presume,  signings, meetings,
etc.

On Nov. 16, GOD STREET WINE will open for the Dave Mathews Band
at TRAX, Charlottesville, VA.

More Nov dates and other info on the way...

-- 
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File

			

Sorry for the crossposting, but the minarets.net is just getting
going and there were over 200 requests for this tree.

The tape tree for the Dave Mathews Band at the Bayou, with mucho
fillers, closes at midnight tonight (mon, oct 25.) If your
submission is not dated and timed by then, or if I get it
substantially after that point, then it will be too late.

The tree structure will posted on the horde.net
(horde@world.std.com to post, horde-request@world.std.com to
subscribe) and the minarets.net (minarets@moose.uvm.edu to post,
listproc@moose.uvm.edu to subscribe).  I will also try to forward
a copy to everyone involved, though thats another hour or two of
scripting.

There are over 200 participants in the tree.  There will not be a
DAT branch. Various clusters of folks (esp. within Virginia) are
going to dub among themselves, off the tree, so that the tree
will comprise closer to 130 folks.

The tapes are TWO tapes of 100 minutes, soundboard masters will
fillers from soundboard masters.  The sound grand!!


-- 
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File