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Re: GREAT TRADER-Kev

morgan_dailey@spacemail.jhuapl.edu Tue Feb 28 12:55:12 1995

I think everyone should have at least 10 CD's of jazz and blues. 
BB king is incredibleJohn Lee Hooker is Bad Like Jesse James. 
Armstrong and Dizzy can wail. If anyone you like some jazz 
and blues suggestions e-mail me.

I agree here.  Jazz and Blues are the roots of all modern rock
music, plus they just make you feel good.  Even scratchy old
Blind Lemon Jefferson recordings from the 20's and 30's
sound great to me.  My personal favorite right now is T-Bone
Walker.  For anyone interested in getting into blues music,
I'd recommend the Rhino Blues series.  Rhino records has
a 15 or 20 CD series dedicated to different eras or genres 
of blues.  (I have Texas Blues, Slide guitar Classics, New 
York Blues, and Chicago Blues).  These albums get more
playing time than most of my other CD's.  I'm not as familiar
as I should be with jazz, but I 've had a great time listening to
Courtney Pine, John Coltraine, Miles Davis, The yellowjackets,
and Bela Fleck (if you want to classify that as jazz).  Oh
yeah, both Marsalis brothers have done great work too.

So, I agree with Shag, everyone should broaden their
musical horizons beyond Dave Matthews and other 
hordesque bands.  (although, I think that most of
us probably have pretty wide musical tastes already).
Check out some old blues and jazz music, it's good stuff.

--Morgan


			

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NYT Review

hb47@columbia.edu Tue Feb 28 13:17:01 1995



Hey folks,

The New York Times may have some of the finest art and classical music 
critics in the world, but thier rock critics are totally clueless.  When 
I was reading the DMB review yesterday, I felt like I was having an 
extreme case of deja vu.  Last spring, the Times' review of Phish was 
basically the same, it went to great lengths to try to liken them to the 
Dead, and described many in the crowd as Deadheads taking a breaking from 
following "band number one."  I think that the reviewer yesterday used 
basically the same analysis.  

Anyway, I hope all are well. 

Ham





			

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Subscribe

Daniel_Karp@walnut.prs.k12.nj.us Tue Feb 28 13:18:14 1995


Daniel_Karp@walnut.prs.k12.nj.us

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Everybody stop...

67006416@sunybroome.edu Tue Feb 28 13:38:38 1995

and think about what you are saying. I have been trying to send
this message out for awhile, but for some reason it hasn't made it through,
so since most of the topics have been covered already, I'll do my best to
throw in my two cents. About the newbies. Everyone is ripping them apart becausethey don't appreciate the old Dave. Well how the hell are they ever going to know  the old Dave unless people like us help them out? They aren't and that's
sad because we have the power to change that. Everyone of us was a newbie at one point in time and we never would have heard live DMB unless someone helped
us out. So just stop ripping apart the newbies and make some copies for them,
unless what you really want is everyone to only know about UTTAD!

As for the sexuality thing and everything else that has no relevance on this
net. STOP IT. Is it going to change the way you feel about the music? That is
what we are here to talk about, and if it does, well IMHO, I don't thing
you belong here anyway. 

When you are going to post something, THINK BEFORE you post it. Personal
mail is called personal mail for a reason. Sure, we can talk about things
that aren't 100% DMB, but we don't have time to read 100 posts a day that
don't have any relevance, to well, anything. 

There are a lot of new people here and we have to live with it. They have
just as much a right to be here as anybody else does. As for the newsgroup
thing... I have a perfect solution... anyone who has access to creating a 
different net... email me and I'll tell you my solution.

I think I said enough for now. Everyone just take a deep breathe (of whatever)
and sit back and relax. Don't be so tense and before you rip someone apart,
evryone would just try to help out one another I think the people that don't
really appreciate the music for what it is won't stick around to long. I don't
think I would want 100 messages a day about something I didn't like....

Would you?

			

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long live the net!

JThomps34@aol.com Tue Feb 28 14:28:55 1995

Hey all,
feeling that the author meant that they played "WWYS".  If "So Much To Say"
was in fact played, I would love to get a copy of this show.  I haven't seen
that gem on a tape in a LONG time.  
about it every time someone bails from the net.  If you feel you don't want
to hear from any of us, just go quietly.  There is not a need to do that
though.  I'm convinced there are plenty of cool DMB fans out there, and it
just takes a bit of work to find them.   It is work that is worth the fight
though.  It's hard to deal with hearing DMB everywhere you go now, but it
doesn't mean that the music is worse.  Once the new group of "fans" finds the
next cool thing, we will be closer to the way it was before Sept. 27, 1994.  
just e-mail me personally.  Don't worry, I don't think I'm better than anyone
just because I may have heard Dave a little sooner than some.  




house when I was younger.  It turns out our mothers are friends from college
or something.  Drop me a line sometime if you remember (or even if you
don't!)
			

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My 2p (or 2 cents to you :-))

<@castle.ed.ac.uk:9484130@lewis.sms.edinburgh.ac.uk> Tue Feb 28 14:54:06 1995

Well, after sitting back and actually reading the past 10 digests I 
have a few things to throw into this debate, and then I'll be happy 
to resume my foreign lurking status

1) Take a hint from Seth and THINK before you post.  After 8 years on 
the Internet, I see this is the most often abused rule.  If you think, and 
take a few minutes to see if what you are typing then many more 
people will be happy.

2) What good will it do to threaten, "If you don't all shut up soon 
and start posting real stuff, then I'm going to have to unsubscribe"? 
PEOPLE DON'T CARE.  That might be harsh, but if everyone here sends 
messages telling that there is too much traffic, and for that reason 
they are going to unsubscribe all that does is create more messages 
and there is a never ending circle.  

3) People who aren't even subscribed to the list but continue to post. 
not subscribed anymore but I thought I'd add my thoughts..." and then 
they turned out to be rather repetitive of what was already posted.

4)This has GOT to stop.  Countless people have said it, and it has not 
had a great effect.  Think about your audience.  I don't care if you 
are trading or looking for an address of someone.  If 75% (i.e 500+ 
people) won't be interested in your message, then find some other way 
to send it.  There was a message posted asking for Dominic's address. 
so look through it and get his address.  Oh, so you deleted your last 
digest or you get immediate messages and you haven't seen this 
persons address?  Then just chill and wait.  The address will come to 
you.

5) Adding "Required DMB content..." at the end of your message about 
something else is bullshit.  Find another way to communicate.

6) Learn how to use the list when you get on.  This includes reading 
the FAQ and learning how to subscribe, unsubscribe, and what the 
topics of discussion are.  In every society there are rules.  Now 
some people may say that rules were made to be broken, but in order 
to have a functioning mailing list there needs to be grounds for 
discussion that we follow and people have not been following them.

7) In the words of the great Bill S. Preston, Esquire, "Be Excellent 
to each other".  Don't flame at every little thing and wait to see 
what happens.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and we are 
interested in hearing ALL of them.  Eric didn't like the Rochester 
show.  Thats cool.  I never read that this list was for the positive 
discussion only of Dave Matthews.  And as far as the band reading 
this - they should know how Eric felt.  Don't hold back - let us and 
them know how you feel.

8) Don't be fucking anal like me and number your points.

9) I think the most imporant thing here is just to read Minarets.  
Those who read it know what is going on and this cuts down on the 
crap.  Remember also that there are those people who get the list by 
digest so it takes them longer to respond.  Having 3 versions of the 
AOL thing posted was silly.  Having 3 versions of the S-314 petition 
was even worse.

I know that i've broken some of my own rules here (especially number 
8), but we all need to chill and back off our keyboards and do more 
reading if we are going to get anything out of this list.  In reading 
digests 79-89, I got about 5 or 6 posts with info that was relevant.  
Show reviews, which I find great unless 25 people all review one show 
and say the exact same thing.  The other stuff can go and I won't 
miss it.

And last, but most certainlly not least, here is my take on the NYT 
article.  I think that we should be happy that this was the review, 
right?  (oh boy, here I go again.. this is the Phish publicity debate 
again).  Everyone here seems to be complaining about how big Dave is 
getting.  Well if you don't want him to get bigger, then lets hope 
that MTV, Rolling Stone, and the popular press all decide at once 
that he sucks and then we can go back to seeing him at Trax.  But 
what you can't do is say, "This sucks, Dave is getting big.  I want 
it to stop", and "I wish the New York Times would write a good 
review" in the same post.  Now I'm not saying that I agree with the 
review.  It did have its faults, as many concert reviews do.  But if 
it wasn't positive that is one less person at the next Roseland show 
(or MSG show :-)) and that is fine by me.

I have absolutely none because this wasn't a personal message that I 
abused Minarets by sending out to everyone and tacked some shit on 
the bottom.  This entire message concerned Dave Matthews and that is 
the way it should be.

I've got my flame suit on.. so let me have it.

-Noah Cole

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Interview Help?

MPOWERS1@ithaca.edu Tue Feb 28 15:23:24 1995

PM  (Wed).  I'm going to record it and use it on a DMB radio special that will
be out next week.  Anyways, I was wondering if anyone out there had anything
in particular that they would like to find out from Boyd or any ideas or
anything?  You know?  I would definitely love to hear anyone's input on any
ideas or questions!  I work at WICB 91.7 in Ithaca, New York.  Each week we
have 2 hours of just one band on Tuesday nites 10-12.  It's called "Artist
Only."  So check it out if you're in the Ithaca area next Tuesday, the 6th(?),
I believe.  Thanks for the help!  Please email me personally with your
interview comments or  ideas. Thanks.

Mike
mpowers1@ithaca.edu


			

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Dont have much to give but what I got ill give to you....

cb3@keene.edu Tue Feb 28 15:42:28 1995


Hey all just recovering from a nice New England tour its been great im 
still coming down... Im really intersted in getting into some live 
material.... but I have had this problem for a good 4 months now. From 
tree's that dont work out to newbie offers closing faster than they've 
come out.... its been a hassle so I was wondering if any one would be 
intersted in trading Dave for Trey I have some nice Shows from the recent 
phish fall tour and am intersted in picking up some HQ's of Dave... 
please any help would be appreciated ..... thanks
Christoph

Cb3@Monadnock.keene.edu
This net has become really insane lately.... sad to see it that way.....
Till then.... 
			

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off the chest

mrobin09@Calvin.EDU Tue Feb 28 15:43:02 1995

feels about the dave mathews band.  I usually refrain from adding my 
input on the net becuase I don't think what I have to say is very 
important. Unfortunately, I feel resentment building up in myself as well 
as others.  I have no solutions and I only know what I read.  What I see 
are longtime fans who have an intense love for the band and who are 
excited about how dave is taking off in the world. But, with an increase 
in popularity also includes an increase in fans.  Dave is such a personal 
aspect with most people that their even their ego is wrapped up in the 
band.  This may at first sound harsh but I understand the feeling of 
resentement when I see someone I deem a "newbie" flaunting his or her 
relationship with the band.  I try, however, to expunge these unjust 
emotions remebering that there are others who are stronger fans than I.  
Also, these fellings do not in any way add to the enjoyment of Dave's 
melodious music for anybody.  Try to understand "newbies" as lovers of 
the band with less experience.  People will learn what dave is about( if 
that is possible) with time.  I hope I do not breed any more hostility on 
this net by my therapeutic release.
Dirk 
			

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Re: IntoleranceisnotWelcome

rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com Tue Feb 28 15:45:06 1995


Well, well, well, E, Marianne, I hope you didn't hurt Mr. Sandford's 
feelings by criticizing Dave and the Boys... Poor ting, getting upset
over nu-ting

Hi Kysa.. don't want to forget you ;)

Anyway folks, these guys are absolutely right. The DMB is a great band...
best I've every heard/seen. But that doesn't mean if they play a less than
average show that we should lay back with blush smiles on our faces
and say "Well that was exactly like the last time, but you were great"
That's like, well, faking an orgasm. Saying what you DON'T like is
just as important as saying what you do like. 

Yang, you de man

So, if this newsgroup is a place where one can only praise the DMB and
not offer criticism, then maybe someone _should_ start another net, because
thats about as healthy as, well, faking an orgasm.

Gavin


			

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London '94-Helpleeze

simon@acpub.duke.edu Tue Feb 28 16:09:07 1995


Hi,
space and time where Dave is savored in a small bar with some close fans.
good luck.  I desperately seek a tape of the London show at the 
Borderline. He played a song which he said they pulled outta the bag for 
the first time and they're going to put it away and let it ripen for 
awhile - I think people are calling it Get in Line now - but I'm not sure 
if that's the same song.
			

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Just a thought..

slachanc@polar.Bowdoin.EDU Tue Feb 28 16:17:00 1995


I hope that all this fits into the DMB format, but i have a confession to
make.  I am new to this group and new to listening to Dave Matthews.  Is
that really so wrong?  You were all new at some point in time, and I know
that there are some of you who are new now.
of the posts that I have received thusfar make me a bit wary of posting
anything of my own. So i'm just gonna sit back, unplug my keyboard, and
read for a while.  It's a great thing that you have here, don't ruin it by
alienating new 'netters and fans.



ps-does anyone have a transcription of the nyt review?  i'd like to read it.
			

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Rochester Show...Bad???

Sclerman@aol.com Tue Feb 28 16:33:35 1995

As an avid Dave fan, like many of you, I have heard my fair deal of
shows.  Even though Eric thinks the Rochester show sucked, I thought quite
the opposite.  OK, I admit, It wasn't the best show of all time, and they
didn't play for an incredible amount of time, but so many amazing things
happened there, I find it hard to believe the show was flop!  As we all know,
Dave is primarily a rhythm guitarist.  It shocked the hell out of me to see
him hammer out a solo in at least two places throughout the show.  After
seeing Boyd in Syr. a week earlier, he wasn't as hot as he was, as a matter
of fact, he seemed like he was zoning at the beginning of the show (I should
know, I was right in front of him in the Pit).  In my opinion though, the
rest of the band was on fire.  Yes there was an amazing amount of screaming
girls, but did it ever occur to you that the band might get energy off their
cheering?  They fucking loved it!!  As a matter of fact, Dave told the crowd
that Carter said that the crowd kicked "fucking ass"!!  At no time during the
show was the crowd so deafening that you couldn't hear Dave clearly.  If you
want to hear Dave quietly, then lock yourself into your room by yourself and
play his CD.  It's true the setlists were very similar from a week earlier,
but no band caters to the tastes of a few experienced listeners.  I would of
loved to hear some rare stuff besides So Much To Say, but I'm not weeping
over the fact that Dave played basically what the crowd wanted to hear!
Watchtower was amazing at the end, and it is a bullshit excuse to say it
wasn't appropriate as an encore because it wasn't his tune.  While everyone
has their right to an opinion, it's a good idea to keep everything in
perspective.  Just because the show didn't kick complete and utter ass,
doesn't mean that it was a shitty show.  Like so many of us out there, I was
just happy to bask in DMB's
un-mistakenable light.  Just my $.02,

Listen and be happy :)




Seth Goldberg-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-Goldberg@Rochgte.fidonet.org


That way, nobody can capture me.....They can use the hell out of me, but
there ain't too much they can do to me.  They can mess me up, play the wrong
note, they can play a C, but they can't really destroy a C.  All it is, is a
tone...So I'm gonna come back as a note.


_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-


			

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2/26 Rochester

V134R9W7@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu Tue Feb 28 16:35:10 1995

I read one post on this show, and it wasn't that good. While i agree 
with the comments about the constant clapping, high pitch screaming, 
and the "we love you Dave!" yells in the middle of songs, it was still 
DaMaBa show and that made it good, and since I hadn't seen a dave show 
since August, theset list really didn't matter. At least they didn't 
play satellite! (that just about made up for the absence of Say 
Goodbye). And to the person who asked 'bout So Much Too Say? i thought 
it was great.
ps. so what if they ended with Watchtower? I love Watchtower.
			

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Different Music

Clogboy@aol.com Tue Feb 28 16:37:17 1995

other types of music.  DMB is great, but there is a lot of other music out

And if you hold on tight
To what you think is your thing
You may find you're missing all the rest


Take care and be kind to one another.
			

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sub him in

erw@medinfo.rochester.edu Tue Feb 28 16:53:11 1995

anyone wanta try to get MCipoletti@aol.com back on net...someone unsubbed 
him....peace

			

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Re: ERIC WALD SUCKS

erw@medinfo.rochester.edu Tue Feb 28 16:55:51 1995

22:57:58 -0500
with SMTP id WAA125897; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 22:55:22 -0500
Pine.ULT.3.91.950227224853.18291E-100000@north4.acpub.duke.edu


if there is a way, eric wald needs to be unsubscribed for his sheer 
obnoxiousness and genuine stupidity, as well as his blasphemous attack on 
daveband.

go to hell, eric wald
\
sanford how old are you???   those words are obviously too many syllables 
for your small reptilian brain to handle...

blasphemous attack???
hehehehheheheheheheheheheheh


get a life sanford and son.

eric

			

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Re: eric wald doesnt suck

erw@medinfo.rochester.edu Tue Feb 28 16:58:14 1995

23:58:54 -0500
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i dont know how the fuck i am keeping up with this shit
now that im unsubbed (thanks to all those happy forwarders)

but eric is cool as shit, and he had as much right as sanford
did to speak his mind.

but, as has been the case for as long as i remember,
eric didnt look like as much of an incompetent dumbass

it's nice when people can people can speak their minds
without looking they are utterly saturated with stupidity
thanks, eric, for the well thought out criticism........

sandy is officially on the clan.aub "list"
that famous one with all the other superstars of the net
who think they are too cool for words

whaddya think ben?
keith


thank you keith....i can only rely on the kindness of friends and kinda 
strangers to back me up...since most of my pals have departed....

in all honesty sanford made me laugh for the first time in a while...

but thanks.
peace later
eric
wish you were here although i think i might be there soon.

			

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Special Offer

2T87MACINTYR@vmsa.csd.mu.edu Tue Feb 28 16:59:31 1995

From today until Thursday (when I leave for spring break), I'll be accepting
personal letters to the DMB that I will hand deliver to them at their March 15thshow at Eagles Auditorium in Milwaukee.  I'm sure the band gets a print out of
immediately print those out.  I work for the promoter so it won't be a problem.
Any questions, just ask.  Thanks.

Andy Mac.

***Check out Willy Porter!
			

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Re: IntoleranceisnotWelcome

marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu Tue Feb 28 17:08:02 1995

sanford baby, ok sweetie, i don't want to upset you.  your message made me
smile laugh, guffaw and then well i just felt pretty badly for you.  pity
isn't so great so i'm gonna try to help you out immerse myself invest
something...

so everyone, here it is, public apologies to sanford, i think most
everything he's said and done so far is wrong wrong wrong but i surely had
no right to instigate violence against him, he obviously has a lot of anger
and a lot of time and so maybe we can turn this around another way.

love love love, love is all around,  don't phlame sanford, hug him love him
spoon him giggle with him include him in all you do.  when he acts up like
children from poor homes occassionally do, ignore him, no reinforcement
here

nope...no matter how bad you are sanford you will not make us as negative
as you are...the music lives on, our community will survive...you can join
us if you like sanford, but you oughta play nice.

we make the best of what's around...
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solittleto say

erw@medinfo.rochester.edu Tue Feb 28 17:15:59 1995

hey listen 


i am no dumbass...they played so much to say...ok?  good. done.

second. if others like goldberg and whomever else read...yes read my 
post...they'll see that i did not say the show sucked...it rocked but to 
me...it seemed old...dave played solos but seemed distracted...the band 
railed....fine.  the crowd, etc i expected...i am not saying that dave 
sucked....but i think he sold his true listeners short. thats all.

thanks to some for support...marianne...keith, beth...etc...there were lots 
just support amend. 1....cool.  

people should grow up...think a little...and before speaking take the 
pacifier out of their mouths....

japhy...you are a puss.

oh well.  i stand by my post.  the show lacked.  if i was some antenna 
waving 15 yr old , braids flying, ultrasonic squealing squirrel, i 
would';ve cried my eyes out and said the show really was awesome! it raged!

but my friends and i, two of whom had only seen the syracuse show (1st dave 
exper.) and who loved it...but had heard my boots and wanted more...were 
disappointed too....

again.

oh well.  i love the music and dmb is human.  i still jam out to dave.  
fine...i just expect more from a band that i think transcends mainstream 
music.

peace out.
eric

			

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wilmington, a go!!!

73261.1133@compuserve.com Tue Feb 28 17:22:04 1995

yes the wilmington show is back on track...the show will be held saturday, 
april 15, the day before easter...it is not during the azalea festival as i 
previously posted...tickets are supposed to go on sale tommorrow 
(wednesday)  the best way and maybe the only way to get tix over the phone 
is thru ponidexter records at 910-313-0076   the show will be outdoors but 
the venue hasnt been announced yet,,,the rumor is it will be held at 
airport.....places to stay will be hard to find so get an early 
start.....if you need any further info, contact me personally(e-mail) and 
i'll be glad to help......alan
			

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sorry netters...just a little sanford quote for ya

erw@medinfo.rochester.edu Tue Feb 28 17:26:17 1995

95 22:29:27 -0500
	by north4.acpub.duke.edu (8.6.10/Duke-2.0) id WAA18323; 
	Mon, 27 Feb 1995 22:26:57 -0500
Pine.ULT.3.91.950227222505.18291A-100000@north4.acpub.duke.edu


eric,

you are just too cool for this net, i shouldn't have interpreted your 
message the way I did- how could I have possibly imagined that you didn't 
like the show after reading such a glowing account.

eat a fat dick, shithead, and never rear your fat ugly face on this net.




sanford's got a hold of a dictionary again.  he's sent me lots of nice 
messages on the net....


that would've told me off....

ahhhhhhhhhh well....this net sure has fallen from grace.

peace
eric


yes sanford...i'm telling on you...i'm telling mom!!!!

			

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subscribe

n_connor@oz.plymouth.edu Tue Feb 28 17:28:13 1995

Please subscribe me to dave net.
Thanks

			

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subscribe

c_butson@oz.plymouth.edu Tue Feb 28 17:28:35 1995

I would like to subscribe to the Dave net.

			

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things that make you go yuuuup-dee-dooo yee-bop-bop

bmking@mail.wm.edu Tue Feb 28 17:33:25 1995

cha ye are not a man but a god in thy presence.

i think i'll put my davmaltations tape in and just play it on continuous for
the next three days.

this is the most beautiful thing found on a magnetic surface.

thank you kind sir

--
you don't have to worry about me                                  it's here
i might have been born yesterday                          brett's home page
			

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DMB news group

fhouse@vt.edu Tue Feb 28 17:38:46 1995

someone does DO IT!!!! It would absorb a lot of the traffic at least for 
awhile...


			

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Re: possibly time to leave?

erw@medinfo.rochester.edu Tue Feb 28 17:59:37 1995

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Eric Wald, I respect your right to post most anything, but that review of 
the show you say was possibly one of the most negative and IMHO usless 
things I have seen on Minarets as of late.  (with of course the exception 
of my posts)  I reccomend you leave us alone now, we have welcomed Dave 
'95 and it seems that we like it.  That's why we hang out here, NOT to 
complain and bitch.

Japhy

I hate myself more and more every day!!!


you of all people i expected to kinda relate...for instance say they played 
in boulder two nights...and the shows were drastically similar...wouldn't 
you feel kinda robbed...i mean i love dave but c'mon...that's mass 
production...automaton-like playing

but hey...you have your opinion...

i have mine.

and to all...yes i know my dave...he played  So Much...ok?
yes its rare but yes he played it....
congrats.
eric

			

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Hey there!

beck74@potsdam.edu Tue Feb 28 18:20:47 1995

Hello everyone!
This is my first time writting, but I'm not a newbie...I'm just a bonehead
who finally figured out how to send messages to all you beautiful people!!
I really want to get a collection going although unfortuantly I don't have
alot to offer as far as DBM goes.  But if you're interest in helping me out
it would be greatly appreciated!  I'm really interested in Radio
performances and interviews.
Anyway I'll get going so you can get on to reading more important things...
THANKS!

Danny Boy


			

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MTV buzz clip....

alang@engin.umich.edu Tue Feb 28 18:25:13 1995

Hey, I finally saw a buzz clip today that didn't have DMB in it, I guess 
MTV changed their minds and took out DMB from that cartoony buzz clip ... 
at least that might make some minaretters happy...  it does to me I hate 
to see DMB on the buzz clip...  

alan


			

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hey people

<@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:ECHASE.96@DIANA.HCHS.HUNTER.CUNY.EDU> Tue Feb 28 18:30:39 1995


It's so nice to know that other fellow minaretters love The Celestine 
Prophecy too.  I read it this summer and I was just blown away.  I 
guess this is kinda directed at Steve, because he wrote a post about 
TCP, have you read Ishmael?  A friend gave it to me because she 
thought I would love it, I haven't had a chence to read it yet, but 
I'm waiting.  The author is Daniel Quinn, try it, who knows, it might 
enhance your life!

			

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Let's chill bro... (and more setlists!)

whb4@cornell.edu Tue Feb 28 18:36:38 1995

If you're a newbie, you have so much to look forward to in discovering old
DMB tapes (pre-94).  Crazy long jams, total improv in all respects.  Dave
is the man!  Dave and the boys are playing So Much To Say and Angel From
Montgomery again- yahoo!!   They should play The Maker also!  I actually
want to SEE these tunes, not see the show before and after they play them
(i.e.: Syracuse) - I need better luck.  I kinda wish - and I've said this
before - that Dave would bring back his spacey delay effects on his voice
and also Boyd should bring back his wah-wah fiddle.  "That's Boyd Tinsley.
Da na, Dat da na da na da na da na... That shit kicks my ass!" - Dave
Mathews

Lastly, let's be chill.  Please type setlists in for the shows and comment
on them.  Let's discuss the tunes bro'; I don't want everything here to be
tainted with flaming.  Have a good one...


Walt Blackler       "That's cool!! ...if that's cool?!"  - Josh Fagen of
409 Dryden #1                                               TIJUANA CARAVAN
Ithaca, N.Y. 14850
607-272-8037        "When he got there he realized he had circled back around,
whb4@cornell.edu     Roundaback circle, roundaback realized!"  - PHISH


			

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Tapes??

228133104@UCIS.VILL.EDU Tue Feb 28 18:47:23 1995



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Does anyone hav a tape of the DMB show on Dec. 30, the night before NYE, in
Washington DC?  I would really appreciate it if someone out there has it
and would be willing  to drop me a line.  Right now I dont have much to trade
but i would be willing to pay for postage provide tapes etc.  I have a couple
From Good Homes, hopefully some DMB within the next week, a HQ Bt, and some otheother stuff..
Anyway, thanks for the support, and continue to be peaceful to your fellow 
Man (and Woman)...
Thanks for the time
			

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Re: hey people

kmarsh@PUFFIN.marymount.edu Tue Feb 28 19:55:38 1995

but I don't think it was that well written. The writting and presentaion 
of the concepts or insights was overly simplified. i think you can get a 
lot of good out of the book, but some of the insights(like how there are 
only two types of people) aren't that valuable. I guess that's how 
everything goes though......you take what is good and can help you and 
forget the rest.
in the store and only read it for a minute.......it looks okay

I am just a dreamer....but you are just a dream,
Kevin
			

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Re: hey people

Rachel_A._Kolbe@SMTPLink.Barnard.Columbia.edu Tue Feb 28 20:00:01 1995


			

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Tim Reynolds Three

DJDG@aol.com Tue Feb 28 20:51:28 1995

I love Tim's stuff and have looked for TR3 cd's since for so long, but no one
knows where to get them.  I only found out they were playing NYC (where I
live) on the 24th when Dave announced it at the Roseland show.  Does anyone
know how I can get TR3 Cd('s?) and bootlegs.  I love Stream and You Are My
Sanity.  I think those are the only tunes of theirs that I've heard of
theirs, although I think Tim wrote Lie In Our Graves or So Much To Say.
			

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Corrections

DJDG@aol.com Tue Feb 28 20:51:37 1995

All Along The Watchtower is a Bob Dylan song, not a Jimi Hendrix song.

They have performed In The Eyes of The Maker since Peter's departure.
			

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Need Adm for 1-30-95 tree

DJDG@aol.com Tue Feb 28 20:53:59 1995

I'm not familiar with the whole tree thing, but it's a good gen 1 tape.  
			

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****READ THIS- I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY:)*****

jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu Tue Feb 28 21:17:57 1995

Hey out there everyone-  I was going to post yesterday, but my system 
crashed.  If anyone remembers, I was the sad road warrior who posted her 
dismay after the horrible Boston show... anyway, I have recently returned 
from the most incredible DMB road trip in a long time.  I was lucky 
and I got hoooked up for guest list tix to the Lafayette shows, along 
with being able to have a long ass chat with all of the members of the 
band(except Carter, who was really sick)
SO!!! Here is me saying my peace, clearing up rumors, etc....

FIRST OFF-in case you didn't know ...THE BAND HATES HATES HATES CROWD 
SURFING!!  THIS WAS EXPRESSED TO ME BY ALL OF THE GUYS.  Stefan and LeRoi 
were very worried about  the innocent people who justed wanted to watch 
the show who were getting crushed.  AND, as for those of you who were 
wondering why if Dave hates crowd sufers so much, why doesn't he say 
GET THE FUCK DOWN, well - all I can say is, have you ever thought that 
Dave is too nice and peaceful of a person to insult anyone like that?? 
When Dave says, "Hey y'all chill on the crowd surfing, the little people 
are getting crushed, that's his way of saying politely, "get the fuck 
down" So, if you are waiting for him to say it, you need to realioze that 
it's not happening anytime soon. 

SECONDLY- for those of you who haven't realized it yet, the crowds won't 
be getting any better with time.  Instead of wasting everyone's time 
bitching about this and that, make a short comentary about the crowd(1 
sentence if that) and be done with it.  I think there are a lot of people 
out there(myself included, no doubt) that need to realize that the way to 
enjoying a show is to either make the best out of the crowd that's around 
you, or go back far where there's space to chill.

-NEXT- this is minor- claering up a rumor- Stefan is not from Amsterdam- 
I asked him, and he laughed and said- "only in spirit"
AND FURTHERMORE- Stefan is not lame at all- he is a very animated person, 
who talk a lot and is really funny when you get to know him.  He was 
really excited about having hosted Alternative Nation.  Stefan is like a 
big kid- he's lost  in a world that's moving way fast.  He has a life, as 
do all of them, and he is shy when he 's never seen you-WHO WOULDN"T BE? 
It's kinda overwhelming.

-For those of you who didn't know. the band is probably going to keep 
touring until September...but when I asked Dave he said that he wouldn't 
mind a long-ass holiday.  I asked LeRoi about Lollapalooza and he hadn't 
heard anything about it- he said they'd consider it, but wouldn't do it 
if the bands wern't good.

- Alex is right about the Germany thing.

-***I asked Boyd what made them play Blue Water, and he said, "I don't 
know, I guess people just kept requesting it." SO... keep those requests 
request for The Maker, to which Boyd smiled and said, "Another day..."

I can't think of anything else right now...
except, the reason that the band looked nervous on Letterman is because 
they were scared shitless!! Many people forget that they are just regular 
people who have been thrust into stardom.  I can verify this...from 
LeRoi's confession to being scared on Letterman to the way Stefan's eyes 
lit up when I asked him about alternative nation to Dave's confession 
that he had been seeing a lot of flashes lately.  The band hasn't changed 
as people- the are just trying to sdjust to what they are having to deal 
with being who they are.  IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT FROM YOU OR ME ( besides 
the fact that we aren't famous!!:)  

to anyone who is still reading, good job


last but not least, I will say my peace.

- don't waste our time complaining about newbies.  Whether or not you 
people who insult them recall it, you were oce newbies too.  I am not 
ashamed to admit that Ants Marching was one of my faves as a 
newbie(although True Reflections and Dancing Nancies(with no intro back 
then) were my top songs). I freaked out two years ago when Ants was 
played at the end of a show.  I also admit that a few months ago, I 
didn't know shit about taping, but because of a nice roomate and kind 
people on the net, I was soon able to build my collection up to near 85 
hours.  Be cool to them- although I long for the days when I could just 
walk up to the door at the Floodzone on a Wednesday night and pay $5 for 
a three hour show, I realize that those times are gone.  I love the band- 
I think they are unique and talented and most of all that they are 
wonderful people who deserve to have their amazing talent recognized.

LASTLY******************************************
To those of you who feel it necessary to insult each other, please do so 
privately.  I joined this net in October, and when I did, I found the 
A) setlists- remember these- if someone doesn't do it from your show and 
you know the list write it. It's quick and painles.  
B) tourdates-a simple list of upcoming shows
C) **USEFUL** information about the band. This means things like I have 
written, not STUPID RUMORS.  In other words, back it up or back off.  It 
is irrelevant whether Dave is bisexual, Stefan is shy, Boyd is stupid, or 
anything else.  Call me crazy, but when someone says shit sbout 
me(ESPECIALLY someone who has never met me), it doesn't make me too 
happy.  If you're wondering whether or not Stefan or Dave is gay and you 
have the lack of tact to talk about it with 800 people on this net, then 
you should also have the balls to take to Dave and Stefan themselves and 
clear it up.  If you knew them at all, you'd know that they are pretty 
honest people who don't want people thinking the wrong things about 
them.  They are who they are, as are you, so stop saying this useless 
shit that is untrue or none of anyone's business.
D) trade offer, newbies offers, or trees
E) Funny messages, with friendly personals to each other- NOt USELESS 
INSULTS. Why watse so much time insulting someone you never know.  When I 
joined this net, it was full of people who loved the band, not people who 
loved insulting each other.  Most o these people have lost faith in what 
was once an informative group with a MAX of 20-30 messages and aren't 
around anymore.

-I urge you, please think before you write. Don't waste our time with 
offensive and useless shit to the band and to us.

-Don't get upset if you read an article or you hear someone blasting the 
band.  People have different tastes- that's what life is about.  Would 
you want your friends who said "I hate Dave and co." to be with you at a 
concert?  Personally, I would rather be there with an appreciator(no 
matter how new or old) like my best friend, whose I hand I held while I 
was crying softly during an incredible Blue Water on Saturday.  
-IF people who you know and care about persist on insulting your taste, 
tell them to be onsiderate of what you love and to respect your taste, 
AS YOU SHOULD RESPECT THEIRS.  

-That's about all from me.  Sorry if I offend, but this is the truth- 
take a look at yourselves and think about how are you are considering(or 
not considering) others.

For those of you who are waiting for tapes from me, they are done and 
out.  

-Ben Sterling, please write
-Brian Richards, are you out there?
-Dean- thanks again for the tickets.
-Fred-let's talk!! Fred is a wonderful person everyone
- Cliff, my newbie- CLIFF LEBLANC- i lost your email address.  You sent 
me two blanks, but your show is only one.  Do you want another show?

LAST-*********NEWBIE OFFER******
- If I can get a sick copy of friday or sat shows, I will tape for blanks 
and postage.  
-If not- the first 10 or so people WITH NO TAPES AND A TRUE DESIRE TO 
IMPROVE THEIR DMB SONG KNOWLEDGE, write me and, of course there's a 
catch, YOU MUST TELL ME A FUNNY STORY OR AN INCREDIBLY GOOD JOKE- IF 
NEITHER OF THESE ARE INCLUDED, I WILL INGORE YOUR POSTS.  I am not a 
bitch, I am simply looking for something funny and amusing instead of 
all  these hurtful insults.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH- Im done!! Take care evryone, and 
think before you insult.
Anyone want to make my day and trade for Friday and/or Saturday?
Post only when necessary.

			

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Re: Corrections

dominic@sccs.swarthmore.edu Tue Feb 28 21:28:19 1995


 All Along The Watchtower is a Bob Dylan song, not a Jimi Hendrix song.
 
 They have performed In The Eyes of The Maker since Peter's departure.
  Birmingham December '94 they played it with Phish.
 
All Alog the Watchtower IS a Jimi Hendrix song.
Bob Dylan gave it to him.    "It's Jimi's song now."

it was WRITTEN by Bob Dylan.    

will it ever be Dave's?

-anyoneotherthanme


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
===================================================
Dominic Sagolla '96	      --Constantly 
Swarthmore College              Craving
Swarthmore, PA 19081			the Perfect
dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
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Watchtower with Phish

RIJOSEPH@DAVIDSON.EDU Tue Feb 28 21:39:05 1995

Minarets,\

If anyone has a copy of the show in Winston-Salem, NC about this time last
year when Dave opened for Phish, I would love to get a copy or make a trade.
I especially want the encore when Dave and Phish jammed for about 30 min 
to Watchtower.  Thanks Rich
			

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Mr Bill B. said...

MBRoth@aol.com Tue Feb 28 21:46:41 1995

It has happened, Bill Bellemy has, in the prime time hour, introduced the
video... "this South African guitarist is taking America by storm... UTTAD,
something to that effect.    Also, after seeing the video a couple times, it
looks like, to me that in the first couple of live shoots Dave's lips are
moving  sort of weird. -like they had to speed up the live takes so that it
corresponed with the album singing. lastly, the women who is lying down,
surrounded by people and says  "WWYS" looks like the model on the front of
the new Sports Illustrated... hmm. -Zac
			

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Seek Up!

DANIELT@tiger.hsc.edu Tue Feb 28 21:51:42 1995

Just sitting here translating a little ancient Greek and jamming to the band. 
I popped in my nice 8/19/93 Wetlands show with a guest appearance by Warren
Haynes of Allman Bros Band fame.  Great show!  But, I have a question to anyone
out there who may be holding the answer.  When did the singing start in the
outro jam of Seek Up.  The earliest I have it that way is the 2/25/94 Sweet
Brair show.  I love the the "yeahs" and the undecipherable lyrics in this jam. 
That jam just really makes me want to dance around the room.  The Wetlands show
has an awesome jam, but no words.  Does anyone know when this started?
Sorry this isn't a flame or a letter that I'm leaving or usenet message.  Just
a question about the band that I was wondering about.  I am feeling good
tonight so I will offer this Wetlands show to the first five newbies (5 or less
DMB tapes) who email me at DANIELT@TIGER.HSC.EDU.  Ben Tanen offered it over
the net a few months ago, and I got it, so I wil continue it on through the
ranks of minarets.  Later and Camel Lights................tom
			

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Re: V-Day

dominic@sccs.swarthmore.edu Tue Feb 28 21:55:31 1995

hey man, i just wanted to tell you what i did while i was making your 

our campus has this crazy-good digital phone system.    you can archive 
messages for eternity, if you keep reminding it to.    this allows for 
long, relatively-good-but-kinda-tinny-sounding "BAGBY-ettes" (one song) 
to be sent to MASS NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO DIG DAVE BAND.    FREE!!! 
COMPLETELY FREE!!!

[for those of you who don't know who Jeff Bagby is, he's the soundman for 
DMB, a.k.a. Love, a.k.a. the Bagman, a.k.a. the most Generous Man on 
Earth.   we call live DMB recordings 'Bagbys.']
so, if you want a snack, call extension 5688.

oh yes, you want one... Tim and Dave, just the way you WANT IT...

-anyoneotherthanme

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
===================================================
Dominic Sagolla '96	      --Constantly 
Swarthmore College              Craving
Swarthmore, PA 19081			the Perfect
dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
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DMB

ret@eden.rutgers.edu Tue Feb 28 22:00:57 1995

Please subscribe me to the Dave Matthews Band Mailing list.
My address is RET@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU

Thanks
Mikey
			

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Re: ****READ THIS- I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY:)*****

dominic@sccs.swarthmore.edu Tue Feb 28 22:01:59 1995

 -***I asked Boyd what made them play Blue Water, and he said, "I don't 
 know, I guess people just kept requesting it." SO... keep those requests 
 request for The Maker, to which Boyd smiled and said, "Another day..."

i, as well as Ben Booth, David Sacker, and Gene Soon would like to take 
credit for bringing back Blue Water.   may it ever remain with regularity.

-anyoneotherthanme

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
===================================================
Dominic Sagolla '96	      --Constantly 
Swarthmore College              Craving
Swarthmore, PA 19081			the Perfect
dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
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mailing list

cmixson@acpub.duke.edu Tue Feb 28 22:14:11 1995

Please subscribe me to the mailing list. Thanx




			

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how to cancel dave matthew subscr.

eblank@vyasa.helios.nd.edu Tue Feb 28 22:57:48 1995


Hi. I have a friend who needs to take his name off of your dave matthews mail
listing.  He hadn't checked his mail in a while and the messages backed up and
crashed his space.  He cannot get into his mail, so he asked me to write.  Could
you please send me directions on how he can get his name off your listing oncee is able
to get into his file space.  Thank you very much.
			

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Don't read this..

goldberg@rochgte.fidonet.org Wed Mar 1 00:01:57 1995



...because my mail server has been messed up and I want To see whether 

			

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Watchtower is Dylan's

jag1@cornell.edu Wed Mar 1 00:16:28 1995

Did Bob sign the song over to Jimi?  Now that Jimi is dead, will he get
royalties from the Dylan Unplugged CD which will have Watchtower on it?
Does the Hendrix estate get royalties from the Recently CD?  I don't know
if Dominic's post was intended as a joke, but Dave himself has said it's
BOB DYLAN'S SONG.  It's so ridiculous it shouldn't even be discussed.  He
wrote it, he performs it, its his!!
Only a few months ago, this net was devoted almost entirely to the music
DMB performed, on CD and in concert.  That's what I'm interested in, not
how many times you saw WWYS on MTV.  It's on almost every fucking hour,
someone's gonna see it.  If Eric Wald says he was disappointed, good for
him.  I was disappointed in Syracuse.  Though the guys are always
enthusiastic on stage, they play nothing new.  They've played one new song
since December of 1993, and that's Get in Line (correct me if I'm wrong).
Yea, its cool they played So Much to Say, but they've done it many times
before.  The intros to songs have promise, but its likely they will remain
only intros and never develop into new songs.  Everyone worries about their
growing popularity, but if they don't write something new, they'll only put
out one more CD.  I love seeing Dave and listening to them, but how many
times am I going to pay $20 for the same exact show.  I can listen to 40
tapes for free.  Hopefully DMB will give the net something new and exciting
to discuss instead of rehashing the same shit week after week.

"I remember asking why there lies aggression and separation
where there should be love."
--Rusted Root


			

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If someone can copy the entire Alt Nation with Dave ...

sctm@vt.edu Wed Mar 1 00:24:48 1995

If you can get me the whole deal with Dave on Alternative Nation,  you can 
copy anything everything I have.  I have a bunch of crap on video of dave,  
but not this so...
You hook me up,  I'll hook you up.  On video,  I have the MTV news segment 
from a few months ago that ws pretty long,  plus plenty of tastey tapes for 
you.  So email me personally because I'm not on the net.  Thanks,  Groovy Beans!
Scott Miller-                           sctm@vt.edu
Virginia Tech                          scooter@acm.vt.edu
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"

			

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Hi again!

srubin@haverford.edu Wed Mar 1 00:38:55 1995

send to minarets@moose.uvm.edu

Hi again
I am listening to the bootleg from the Tower show 2/10 right now.  The BHTM
set is not so bad, they are boring to watch, but if you want something to
chill to, BHTM works nicely.  I think it is all of the minor chords.  On
this note, does anybody have the complete DMB set from this show or the
2/11 show?

As you all know there were some 50 odd messages today.  This made me think
of some stuff.  Do people really need to send five messages (all from the
same person) in the span of less than an hour?  Can we reduce the amount of
mail or make it easier to weed out what we may not want to read?  If you
have some suggestions, let me know and I will condense them and post them.
We should make a group effort to make the net more useful and readable
since there are many of us who share it.  My initial idea is to set some
sort of schedule for topics, postings, grovels (newbie or otherwise), and
what ever people want to talk about.  Give me some feedback, it would help
us all.

I don't want to ramble anymore.  I hope to hear from people.  Feel free to
send me personal email, I am interested in meeting some of the indicated
800+ members of the net.

I have no nifty/wise quotes to put here just now.

Later on,
Seth


			

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roseland 2/23

cfreeves@minerva.cis.yale.edu Wed Mar 1 00:43:55 1995

i know this is old news by now
but i'm just catching up on all my messages -
i was reading the set list for thursday's show
and someone included cry freedom
now
it's possible i blacked out for 15 minutes
(i did get kicked in the head by one of those damned crowd surfers)
but i know i didn't hear cry freedom
can anyone else who was there confirm said statement
or should i go get my head xrayed for permanent damage?
thanks
cameron
ps i saw microphones there - does anyone have a copy they'd like to trade?




			

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re:Watchtower is Dylan's

POPEM@tiger.hsc.edu Wed Mar 1 01:18:54 1995


Did Bob sign the song over to Jimi?  Now that Jimi is dead, will he get
royalties from the Dylan Unplugged CD which will have Watchtower on it?
Does the Hendrix estate get royalties from the Recently CD?  I don't know
if Dominic's post was intended as a joke, but Dave himself has said it's
BOB DYLAN'S SONG.  It's so ridiculous it shouldn't even be discussed.  He
wrote it, he performs it, its his!!

It all depends on who owns the publishing rights.  I could own the publishing
rights to Watchtower for all you know.

Every time the song is played on the radio, in a club, etc... Dylan (the writer,
not the publisher) gets the royalty checks from ASCAP or BMI etc... depending on which 
performing rights society he belongs to.

When Dave recorded it, he had to pay the publisher mechanical royalties on every copy
pressed. 

There are several other ways to make money off the song.

confusing, I know.

later, 
cooper

			

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MTV's alternative (ugh) nation

ddevito@nickel.helios.nd.edu Wed Mar 1 01:36:37 1995



If you missed it, you missed a Madonna tangent initialized by
Kennedy.  A true lowlight of television journalism, imho.

Also, there were 2 videos containing scenes of crowdsurfing, one
of which FOCUSED on it entirely.  I know some moron is gonna think
that Dave thinks it's cool since they played them on "his" show.
I wonder if he saw all the videos before they recorded the segment.

Also, Kennedy brought up the "Neo-Deadhead" crowd crap again. I'm
sure Dave and Stefan felt like eviscerating her right there.  Okay,
I'm a DeadHead, I'll admit it, but I know plenty of Heads who couldn't
care less about DMB and vice-versa.  Their music is not the same, and
this whole categorization trip that everyone's on is so LAME.  It would
have been nice to hear some discussion about how Dave writes his songs or
why they enjoy playing live so much, etc., but instead Kennedy chose to
give us a lesson in Virginian geography (although the stuff Dave 
mentioned about "breeding with relations" in the mountains of VA made
me a bit homesick :-)).  What a moron.  To think I actually got
excited about the whole thing.

Well, I have more to say, but I'll keep it to myself, for now. Hope 
everyone had a stellar Fat Tuesday.

Dominic

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dominic J. DeVito, student, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Notre Dame

			

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DMB promoters at Columbia

ken6@columbia.edu Wed Mar 1 01:41:58 1995


Today, DMB promoters were at the student center at both Columbia and 
Barnard colleges at lunch time giving away free cassette 
singles with WWYS and Jimi thing... I didn't see them, but someone gave 
me the tape tonight (that nice person who knew I liked DMB and thought 
they were doing me a favore! ;-) )
I didn't ask what else they were giving away/selling (if anything)... but I 
took the single and looked at it... There's a picture of UTTAD on it, and 
the announcement that both songs are available on that CD.  

I dunno... if the promoters come back tomorrow I'll tell you what I 
learn, but they are making the rounds at colleges, actively recruiting 
fans.  

I don't know if this has been said before or happened elswhere.  Since I've 
been on minarets I haven't seen anyone else post about it, so I'm sorry 
if this is old news...  it was just interesting to me that they came 
here....they want all us to fill up the Beacon, or MSG!

And, though it's to be expected, too bad WWYS gets so much air time... 
it's probably my least favorite song they do.  But that's ok... 

btw, an inside source informed me that Trey really likes Dave a lot, and 
jumped at the opportunity to play with him at Roseland... he'd been in 
the city anyway, for a meeting with Tom Marshall, and heard that day 
(from his mother's friend, who's son/daughter was going) that 
Dave was playing....made a few phone calls...and went!  (Tom M. was in 
the audience, too)...  he didn't bring his guitar, if any Phish fans at 
the show noticed, so he was using the Ugly Americans' electric, since he 
didn't feel like playing acoustic.  

:-)    .....Kysa
			

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Cincinnati 2/28/95

MCELHICJ@DAYTON.BITNET Wed Mar 1 01:50:59 1995

Wow!  Well....I guess that's probably all of you said after your
first DMB show.  I just got back from Cincy and I must say, I
was completely blown away.   I have a bunch of boots, but it
is so different to see them in person.  Carter.......nuff said.
I felt that it was a pretty good set list. Better than a lot
Seek Up
Recently
Lie in our Graves
WWYS
One Sweet World
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Song that Jane likes
Jimi Thing
Rhyme & Reason
Ants
I really hope someone made a good copy of this show because I would
love to have it.  Please email me if you do and we can work out
a trade or something.  I have about 30 hrs of assorted DMB, Phish,
Jambay and others.  Thanks.
p.s.  Awwwwwww.......no Satellite......sorry teeny-boppers!
			

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I think a lot of you would agree...

s252047@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu Wed Mar 1 02:00:20 1995

Fellow minareters,

so I've had some time to think about it.  As ranDOM wrote (see below), I
think Kennedy could have asked some more intelligent questions.  But what
I disagree with is that the Madonna reference was stupid.  It was just a
random name that Kennedy threw at them, which actually led Stefan to break
his silence and say "I have her latest album!"  (I also think Kennedy's
mocking of "Vogue" was somewhat humorous.)  
neo-HIPPIE, and asked Stefan what he thought of being related to Phish, Big
Head Todd (ironically enough), and other HORDE-type bands.  Relax, ranDOM,
who are dedicated to DMB in some way, so let's just enjoy it! 





 
 
 If you missed it, you missed a Madonna tangent initialized by
 Kennedy.  A true lowlight of television journalism, imho.
 
 Also, there were 2 videos containing scenes of crowdsurfing, one
 of which FOCUSED on it entirely.  I know some moron is gonna think
 that Dave thinks it's cool since they played them on "his" show.
 I wonder if he saw all the videos before they recorded the segment.
 
 Also, Kennedy brought up the "Neo-Deadhead" crowd crap again. I'm
 sure Dave and Stefan felt like eviscerating her right there.  Okay,
 I'm a DeadHead, I'll admit it, but I know plenty of Heads who couldn't
 care less about DMB and vice-versa.  Their music is not the same, and
 this whole categorization trip that everyone's on is so LAME.  It would
 have been nice to hear some discussion about how Dave writes his songs or
 why they enjoy playing live so much, etc., but instead Kennedy chose to
 give us a lesson in Virginian geography (although the stuff Dave 
 mentioned about "breeding with relations" in the mountains of VA made
 me a bit homesick :-)).  What a moron.  To think I actually got
 excited about the whole thing.
 
 Well, I have more to say, but I'll keep it to myself, for now. Hope 
 everyone had a stellar Fat Tuesday.
 
 Dominic
 
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    "Country garland in the wind and the rain,
                     Wherever he goes the people all complain." --Garcia/Hunter
 Dominic J. DeVito, student, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Notre Dame
 



			

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Re: MINARETS digest 91

randyward@cs.sierra.cc.ca.us Wed Mar 1 02:20:16 1995

 
 			    MINARETS Digest 91
 
 
   1) Rochester Show...Bad???
 	by Sclerman@aol.com
   2) 2/26 Rochester
 	by V134R9W7@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
   3) Different Music
 	by Clogboy@aol.com
   4) sub him in
 	by Eric Wald erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
 	by Eric Wald erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
 	by Eric Wald erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
   7) Special Offer
 	by 2T87MACINTYR@vmsa.csd.mu.edu
 	by marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu (Marianne Bakia)
   9) solittleto say
 	by Eric Wald erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
  10) wilmington, a go!!!
 	by "ALAN E. HALE Sr." 73261.1133@compuserve.com
  11) sorry netters...just a little sanford quote for ya
 	by Eric Wald erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
  12) subscribe
 	by n_connor@oz.plymouth.edu (Nicole Connor)
  13) subscribe
 	by c_butson@oz.plymouth.edu (Chad R. Butson)
  14) things that make you go   yuuuup-dee-dooo yee-bop-bop
 	by bmking@mail.wm.edu (Brett)
  15) DMB news group
 	by fhouse@vt.edu (Fred House)
 	by Eric Wald erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
  17) Hey there!
 	by beck74@potsdam.edu (Daniel J. Beck)
  18) MTV buzz clip....
 	by alan daniel gonzalez alang@engin.umich.edu
  19) hey people
 	by "Elizabeth Chase" ECHASE.96@DIANA.HCHS.HUNTER.CUNY.EDU
  20) Let's chill bro... (and more setlists!)
 	by whb4@cornell.edu (Walt Blackler)
  21) Tapes?
 	by 228133104@UCIS.VILL.EDU
 	by "Kevin J. Marsh" kmarsh@PUFFIN.marymount.edu
 	by "Rachel A. Kolbe" Rachel_A._Kolbe@SMTPLink.Barnard.Columbia.edu
  24) Tim Reynolds Three
 	by DJDG@aol.com
  25) Corrections
 	by DJDG@aol.com
  26) Need Adm for 1-30-95 tree
 	by DJDG@aol.com
 	by DMB road warrior jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu
 	by AnyoneOtherThanMe dominic@sccs.swarthmore.edu
  29) Watchtower with Phish
 	by RIJOSEPH@DAVIDSON.EDU
  30) Mr Bill B. said...
 	by MBRoth@aol.com
  31) Seek Up!
 	by Tom Daniel DANIELT@tiger.hsc.edu
 
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
 As an avid Dave fan, like many of you, I have heard my fair deal of
 shows.  Even though Eric thinks the Rochester show sucked, I thought quite
 the opposite.  OK, I admit, It wasn't the best show of all time, and they
 didn't play for an incredible amount of time, but so many amazing things
 happened there, I find it hard to believe the show was flop!  As we all know,
 Dave is primarily a rhythm guitarist.  It shocked the hell out of me to see
 him hammer out a solo in at least two places throughout the show.  After
 seeing Boyd in Syr. a week earlier, he wasn't as hot as he was, as a matter
 of fact, he seemed like he was zoning at the beginning of the show (I should
 know, I was right in front of him in the Pit).  In my opinion though, the
 rest of the band was on fire.  Yes there was an amazing amount of screaming
 girls, but did it ever occur to you that the band might get energy off their
 cheering?  They fucking loved it!!  As a matter of fact, Dave told the crowd
 that Carter said that the crowd kicked "fucking ass"!!  At no time during the
 show was the crowd so deafening that you couldn't hear Dave clearly.  If you
 want to hear Dave quietly, then lock yourself into your room by yourself and
 play his CD.  It's true the setlists were very similar from a week earlier,
 but no band caters to the tastes of a few experienced listeners.  I would of
 loved to hear some rare stuff besides So Much To Say, but I'm not weeping
 over the fact that Dave played basically what the crowd wanted to hear!
 Watchtower was amazing at the end, and it is a bullshit excuse to say it
 wasn't appropriate as an encore because it wasn't his tune.  While everyone
 has their right to an opinion, it's a good idea to keep everything in
 perspective.  Just because the show didn't kick complete and utter ass,
 doesn't mean that it was a shitty show.  Like so many of us out there, I was
 just happy to bask in DMB's
 un-mistakenable light.  Just my $.02,
 
 Listen and be happy :)
 
 
 
 
 Seth Goldberg-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-Goldberg@Rochgte.fidonet.org
 
 
        When I'm reincarnated, I'm gonna come back as a musical note.
 That way, nobody can capture me.....They can use the hell out of me, but
 there ain't too much they can do to me.  They can mess me up, play the wrong
 note, they can play a C, but they can't really destroy a C.  All it is, is a
 tone...So I'm gonna come back as a note.
 
                                        - Rahsaan Roland Kirk
 
 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
 
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 I read one post on this show, and it wasn't that good. While i agree 
 with the comments about the constant clapping, high pitch screaming, 
 and the "we love you Dave!" yells in the middle of songs, it was still 
 DaMaBa show and that made it good, and since I hadn't seen a dave show 
 since August, theset list really didn't matter. At least they didn't 
 play satellite! (that just about made up for the absence of Say 
 Goodbye). And to the person who asked 'bout So Much Too Say? i thought 
 it was great.
                                                  george
 ps. so what if they ended with Watchtower? I love Watchtower.
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
     I just wanted to support some of the recent postings about listening to
 other types of music.  DMB is great, but there is a lot of other music out
 
 And if you hold on tight
 To what you think is your thing
 You may find you're missing all the rest
 
 
 Take care and be kind to one another.
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 anyone wanta try to get MCipoletti@aol.com back on net...someone unsubbed 
 him....peace
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
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 Pine.ULT.3.91.950227224853.18291E-100000@north4.acpub.duke.edu
 
 
 if there is a way, eric wald needs to be unsubscribed for his sheer 
 obnoxiousness and genuine stupidity, as well as his blasphemous attack on 
 daveband.
 
 go to hell, eric wald
 \
 sanford how old are you???   those words are obviously too many syllables 
 for your small reptilian brain to handle...
 
 blasphemous attack???
 hehehehheheheheheheheheheheh
 
 
 get a life sanford and son.
 
 eric
 
 
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 23:58:54 -0500
 with SMTP id XAA58287; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 23:55:59 -0500
 
 i dont know how the fuck i am keeping up with this shit
 now that im unsubbed (thanks to all those happy forwarders)
 
 but eric is cool as shit, and he had as much right as sanford
 did to speak his mind.
 
 but, as has been the case for as long as i remember,
 eric didnt look like as much of an incompetent dumbass
 
 it's nice when people can people can speak their minds
 without looking they are utterly saturated with stupidity
 thanks, eric, for the well thought out criticism........
 
 sandy is officially on the clan.aub "list"
 that famous one with all the other superstars of the net
 who think they are too cool for words
 
 whaddya think ben?
 keith
 
 
 thank you keith....i can only rely on the kindness of friends and kinda 
 strangers to back me up...since most of my pals have departed....
 
 in all honesty sanford made me laugh for the first time in a while...
 
 but thanks.
 peace later
 eric
 wish you were here although i think i might be there soon.
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 From today until Thursday (when I leave for spring break), I'll be accepting
 personal letters to the DMB that I will hand deliver to them at their March 15thshow at Eagles Auditorium in Milwaukee.  I'm sure the band gets a print out of
 immediately print those out.  I work for the promoter so it won't be a problem.
 Any questions, just ask.  Thanks.
 
 Andy Mac.
 
 ***Check out Willy Porter!
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 sanford baby, ok sweetie, i don't want to upset you.  your message made me
 smile laugh, guffaw and then well i just felt pretty badly for you.  pity
 isn't so great so i'm gonna try to help you out immerse myself invest
 something...
 
 so everyone, here it is, public apologies to sanford, i think most
 everything he's said and done so far is wrong wrong wrong but i surely had
 no right to instigate violence against him, he obviously has a lot of anger
 and a lot of time and so maybe we can turn this around another way.
 
 love love love, love is all around,  don't phlame sanford, hug him love him
 spoon him giggle with him include him in all you do.  when he acts up like
 children from poor homes occassionally do, ignore him, no reinforcement
 here
 
 nope...no matter how bad you are sanford you will not make us as negative
 as you are...the music lives on, our community will survive...you can join
 us if you like sanford, but you oughta play nice.
 
 we make the best of what's around...
 -----------------------------------
 delivered by the ILTnet gateway 
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 hey listen 
 
 
 i am no dumbass...they played so much to say...ok?  good. done.
 
 second. if others like goldberg and whomever else read...yes read my 
 post...they'll see that i did not say the show sucked...it rocked but to 
 me...it seemed old...dave played solos but seemed distracted...the band 
 railed....fine.  the crowd, etc i expected...i am not saying that dave 
 sucked....but i think he sold his true listeners short. thats all.
 
 thanks to some for support...marianne...keith, beth...etc...there were lots 
 just support amend. 1....cool.  
 
 people should grow up...think a little...and before speaking take the 
 pacifier out of their mouths....
 
 japhy...you are a puss.
 
 oh well.  i stand by my post.  the show lacked.  if i was some antenna 
 waving 15 yr old , braids flying, ultrasonic squealing squirrel, i 
 would';ve cried my eyes out and said the show really was awesome! it raged!
 
 but my friends and i, two of whom had only seen the syracuse show (1st dave 
 exper.) and who loved it...but had heard my boots and wanted more...were 
 disappointed too....
 
 again.
 
 oh well.  i love the music and dmb is human.  i still jam out to dave.  
 fine...i just expect more from a band that i think transcends mainstream 
 music.
 
 peace out.
 eric
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 yes the wilmington show is back on track...the show will be held saturday, 
 april 15, the day before easter...it is not during the azalea festival as i 
 previously posted...tickets are supposed to go on sale tommorrow 
 (wednesday)  the best way and maybe the only way to get tix over the phone 
 is thru ponidexter records at 910-313-0076   the show will be outdoors but 
 the venue hasnt been announced yet,,,the rumor is it will be held at 
 airport.....places to stay will be hard to find so get an early 
 start.....if you need any further info, contact me personally(e-mail) and 
 i'll be glad to help......alan
 
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 95 22:29:27 -0500
 	by north4.acpub.duke.edu (8.6.10/Duke-2.0) id WAA18323; 
 	Mon, 27 Feb 1995 22:26:57 -0500
 Pine.ULT.3.91.950227222505.18291A-100000@north4.acpub.duke.edu
 
 
 eric,
 
 you are just too cool for this net, i shouldn't have interpreted your 
 message the way I did- how could I have possibly imagined that you didn't 
 like the show after reading such a glowing account.
 
 eat a fat dick, shithead, and never rear your fat ugly face on this net.
 
 
 
 
 sanford's got a hold of a dictionary again.  he's sent me lots of nice 
 messages on the net....
 
             "never rear your fat ugly face on this net"
             
             "never rear your fat ugly face on this net again!!!!"
 
 that would've told me off....
 
 ahhhhhhhhhh well....this net sure has fallen from grace.
 
 peace
 eric
 
 
 yes sanford...i'm telling on you...i'm telling mom!!!!
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 Please subscribe me to dave net.
 Thanks
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 I would like to subscribe to the Dave net.
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 cha ye are not a man but a god in thy presence.
 
 i think i'll put my davmaltations tape in and just play it on continuous for
 the next three days.
 
 this is the most beautiful thing found on a magnetic surface.
 
 thank you kind sir
 
 --
 you don't have to worry about me                                  it's here
 i might have been born yesterday                          brett's home page
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
         I don't have the time or the energy to start a news group but if 
 someone does DO IT!!!! It would absorb a lot of the traffic at least for 
 awhile...
 
                         Fred House
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
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 Eric Wald, I respect your right to post most anything, but that review of 
 the show you say was possibly one of the most negative and IMHO usless 
 things I have seen on Minarets as of late.  (with of course the exception 
 of my posts)  I reccomend you leave us alone now, we have welcomed Dave 
 '95 and it seems that we like it.  That's why we hang out here, NOT to 
 complain and bitch.
 
 Japhy
 
 I hate myself more and more every day!!!
 
 
 you of all people i expected to kinda relate...for instance say they played 
 in boulder two nights...and the shows were drastically similar...wouldn't 
 you feel kinda robbed...i mean i love dave but c'mon...that's mass 
 production...automaton-like playing
 
 but hey...you have your opinion...
 
 i have mine.
 
 and to all...yes i know my dave...he played  So Much...ok?
 yes its rare but yes he played it....
 congrats.
 eric
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 Hello everyone!
 This is my first time writting, but I'm not a newbie...I'm just a bonehead
 who finally figured out how to send messages to all you beautiful people!!
 I really want to get a collection going although unfortuantly I don't have
 alot to offer as far as DBM goes.  But if you're interest in helping me out
 it would be greatly appreciated!  I'm really interested in Radio
 performances and interviews.
 Anyway I'll get going so you can get on to reading more important things...
 THANKS!
 
 Danny Boy
 
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 Hey, I finally saw a buzz clip today that didn't have DMB in it, I guess 
 MTV changed their minds and took out DMB from that cartoony buzz clip ... 
 at least that might make some minaretters happy...  it does to me I hate 
 to see DMB on the buzz clip...  
 
 alan
 
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 
 It's so nice to know that other fellow minaretters love The Celestine 
 Prophecy too.  I read it this summer and I was just blown away.  I 
 guess this is kinda directed at Steve, because he wrote a post about 
 TCP, have you read Ishmael?  A friend gave it to me because she 
 thought I would love it, I haven't had a chence to read it yet, but 
 I'm waiting.  The author is Daniel Quinn, try it, who knows, it might 
 enhance your life!
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 If you're a newbie, you have so much to look forward to in discovering old
 DMB tapes (pre-94).  Crazy long jams, total improv in all respects.  Dave
 is the man!  Dave and the boys are playing So Much To Say and Angel From
 Montgomery again- yahoo!!   They should play The Maker also!  I actually
 want to SEE these tunes, not see the show before and after they play them
 (i.e.: Syracuse) - I need better luck.  I kinda wish - and I've said this
 before - that Dave would bring back his spacey delay effects on his voice
 and also Boyd should bring back his wah-wah fiddle.  "That's Boyd Tinsley.
 Da na, Dat da na da na da na da na... That shit kicks my ass!" - Dave
 Mathews
 
 Lastly, let's be chill.  Please type setlists in for the shows and comment
 on them.  Let's discuss the tunes bro'; I don't want everything here to be
 tainted with flaming.  Have a good one...
 
                                                 Walt
 
 Walt Blackler       "That's cool!! ...if that's cool?!"  - Josh Fagen of
 409 Dryden #1                                               TIJUANA CARAVAN
 Ithaca, N.Y. 14850
 607-272-8037        "When he got there he realized he had circled back around,
 whb4@cornell.edu     Roundaback circle, roundaback realized!"  - PHISH
 
 
 
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 Your message cannot be delivered to its destination, and has been returned
 to you by the SMTP-OpenVMS delivery agent for the following reason(s):
 
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 Does anyone hav a tape of the DMB show on Dec. 30, the night before NYE, in
 Washington DC?  I would really appreciate it if someone out there has it
 and would be willing  to drop me a line.  Right now I dont have much to trade
 but i would be willing to pay for postage provide tapes etc.  I have a couple
 From Good Homes, hopefully some DMB within the next week, a HQ Bt, and some otheother stuff..
 Anyway, thanks for the support, and continue to be peaceful to your fellow 
 Man (and Woman)...
 Thanks for the time
 				Mike c
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 	I think the Celestine Prophecy brought up a lot of good points, 
 but I don't think it was that well written. The writting and presentaion 
 of the concepts or insights was overly simplified. i think you can get a 
 lot of good out of the book, but some of the insights(like how there are 
 only two types of people) aren't that valuable. I guess that's how 
 everything goes though......you take what is good and can help you and 
 forget the rest.
 	Has anyone read the Celestine Prophecy self help book? I saw it 
 in the store and only read it for a minute.......it looks okay
 
 I am just a dreamer....but you are just a dream,
 Kevin
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
          Celestine Prophesy changed my life too...
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 I love Tim's stuff and have looked for TR3 cd's since for so long, but no one
 knows where to get them.  I only found out they were playing NYC (where I
 live) on the 24th when Dave announced it at the Roseland show.  Does anyone
 know how I can get TR3 Cd('s?) and bootlegs.  I love Stream and You Are My
 Sanity.  I think those are the only tunes of theirs that I've heard of
 theirs, although I think Tim wrote Lie In Our Graves or So Much To Say.
  Don't know which one, though.  Can anyone help me?
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 All Along The Watchtower is a Bob Dylan song, not a Jimi Hendrix song.
 
 They have performed In The Eyes of The Maker since Peter's departure.
  Birmingham December '94 they played it with Phish.
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 I'm not familiar with the whole tree thing, but it's a good gen 1 tape.  
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 Hey out there everyone-  I was going to post yesterday, but my system 
 crashed.  If anyone remembers, I was the sad road warrior who posted her 
 dismay after the horrible Boston show... anyway, I have recently returned 
 from the most incredible DMB road trip in a long time.  I was lucky 
 and I got hoooked up for guest list tix to the Lafayette shows, along 
 with being able to have a long ass chat with all of the members of the 
 band(except Carter, who was really sick)
 SO!!! Here is me saying my peace, clearing up rumors, etc....
 
 FIRST OFF-in case you didn't know ...THE BAND HATES HATES HATES CROWD 
 SURFING!!  THIS WAS EXPRESSED TO ME BY ALL OF THE GUYS.  Stefan and LeRoi 
 were very worried about  the innocent people who justed wanted to watch 
 the show who were getting crushed.  AND, as for those of you who were 
 wondering why if Dave hates crowd sufers so much, why doesn't he say 
 GET THE FUCK DOWN, well - all I can say is, have you ever thought that 
 Dave is too nice and peaceful of a person to insult anyone like that?? 
 When Dave says, "Hey y'all chill on the crowd surfing, the little people 
 are getting crushed, that's his way of saying politely, "get the fuck 
 down" So, if you are waiting for him to say it, you need to realioze that 
 it's not happening anytime soon. 
 
 SECONDLY- for those of you who haven't realized it yet, the crowds won't 
 be getting any better with time.  Instead of wasting everyone's time 
 bitching about this and that, make a short comentary about the crowd(1 
 sentence if that) and be done with it.  I think there are a lot of people 
 out there(myself included, no doubt) that need to realize that the way to 
 enjoying a show is to either make the best out of the crowd that's around 
 you, or go back far where there's space to chill.
 
 -NEXT- this is minor- claering up a rumor- Stefan is not from Amsterdam- 
 I asked him, and he laughed and said- "only in spirit"
 AND FURTHERMORE- Stefan is not lame at all- he is a very animated person, 
 who talk a lot and is really funny when you get to know him.  He was 
 really excited about having hosted Alternative Nation.  Stefan is like a 
 big kid- he's lost  in a world that's moving way fast.  He has a life, as 
 do all of them, and he is shy when he 's never seen you-WHO WOULDN"T BE? 
 It's kinda overwhelming.
 
 -For those of you who didn't know. the band is probably going to keep 
 touring until September...but when I asked Dave he said that he wouldn't 
 mind a long-ass holiday.  I asked LeRoi about Lollapalooza and he hadn't 
 heard anything about it- he said they'd consider it, but wouldn't do it 
 if the bands wern't good.
 
 - Alex is right about the Germany thing.
 
 -***I asked Boyd what made them play Blue Water, and he said, "I don't 
 know, I guess people just kept requesting it." SO... keep those requests 
 request for The Maker, to which Boyd smiled and said, "Another day..."
 
 I can't think of anything else right now...
 except, the reason that the band looked nervous on Letterman is because 
 they were scared shitless!! Many people forget that they are just regular 
 people who have been thrust into stardom.  I can verify this...from 
 LeRoi's confession to being scared on Letterman to the way Stefan's eyes 
 lit up when I asked him about alternative nation to Dave's confession 
 that he had been seeing a lot of flashes lately.  The band hasn't changed 
 as people- the are just trying to sdjust to what they are having to deal 
 with being who they are.  IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT FROM YOU OR ME ( besides 
 the fact that we aren't famous!!:)  
 
 to anyone who is still reading, good job
 
 
 last but not least, I will say my peace.
 
 - don't waste our time complaining about newbies.  Whether or not you 
 people who insult them recall it, you were oce newbies too.  I am not 
 ashamed to admit that Ants Marching was one of my faves as a 
 newbie(although True Reflections and Dancing Nancies(with no intro back 
 then) were my top songs). I freaked out two years ago when Ants was 
 played at the end of a show.  I also admit that a few months ago, I 
 didn't know shit about taping, but because of a nice roomate and kind 
 people on the net, I was soon able to build my collection up to near 85 
 hours.  Be cool to them- although I long for the days when I could just 
 walk up to the door at the Floodzone on a Wednesday night and pay $5 for 
 a three hour show, I realize that those times are gone.  I love the band- 
 I think they are unique and talented and most of all that they are 
 wonderful people who deserve to have their amazing talent recognized.
 
 LASTLY******************************************
 To those of you who feel it necessary to insult each other, please do so 
 privately.  I joined this net in October, and when I did, I found the 
 A) setlists- remember these- if someone doesn't do it from your show and 
 you know the list write it. It's quick and painles.  
 B) tourdates-a simple list of upcoming shows
 C) **USEFUL** information about the band. This means things like I have 
 written, not STUPID RUMORS.  In other words, back it up or back off.  It 
 is irrelevant whether Dave is bisexual, Stefan is shy, Boyd is stupid, or 
 anything else.  Call me crazy, but when someone says shit sbout 
 me(ESPECIALLY someone who has never met me), it doesn't make me too 
 happy.  If you're wondering whether or not Stefan or Dave is gay and you 
 have the lack of tact to talk about it with 800 people on this net, then 
 you should also have the balls to take to Dave and Stefan themselves and 
 clear it up.  If you knew them at all, you'd know that they are pretty 
 honest people who don't want people thinking the wrong things about 
 them.  They are who they are, as are you, so stop saying this useless 
 shit that is untrue or none of anyone's business.
 D) trade offer, newbies offers, or trees
 E) Funny messages, with friendly personals to each other- NOt USELESS 
 INSULTS. Why watse so much time insulting someone you never know.  When I 
 joined this net, it was full of people who loved the band, not people who 
 loved insulting each other.  Most o these people have lost faith in what 
 was once an informative group with a MAX of 20-30 messages and aren't 
 around anymore.
 
 -I urge you, please think before you write. Don't waste our time with 
 offensive and useless shit to the band and to us.
 
 -Don't get upset if you read an article or you hear someone blasting the 
 band.  People have different tastes- that's what life is about.  Would 
 you want your friends who said "I hate Dave and co." to be with you at a 
 concert?  Personally, I would rather be there with an appreciator(no 
 matter how new or old) like my best friend, whose I hand I held while I 
 was crying softly during an incredible Blue Water on Saturday.  
 -IF people who you know and care about persist on insulting your taste, 
 tell them to be onsiderate of what you love and to respect your taste, 
 AS YOU SHOULD RESPECT THEIRS.  
 
 -That's about all from me.  Sorry if I offend, but this is the truth- 
 take a look at yourselves and think about how are you are considering(or 
 not considering) others.
 
 For those of you who are waiting for tapes from me, they are done and 
 out.  
 
 -Ben Sterling, please write
 -Brian Richards, are you out there?
 -Dean- thanks again for the tickets.
 -Fred-let's talk!! Fred is a wonderful person everyone
 - Cliff, my newbie- CLIFF LEBLANC- i lost your email address.  You sent 
 me two blanks, but your show is only one.  Do you want another show?
 
 LAST-*********NEWBIE OFFER******
 - If I can get a sick copy of friday or sat shows, I will tape for blanks 
 and postage.  
 -If not- the first 10 or so people WITH NO TAPES AND A TRUE DESIRE TO 
 IMPROVE THEIR DMB SONG KNOWLEDGE, write me and, of course there's a 
 catch, YOU MUST TELL ME A FUNNY STORY OR AN INCREDIBLY GOOD JOKE- IF 
 NEITHER OF THESE ARE INCLUDED, I WILL INGORE YOUR POSTS.  I am not a 
 bitch, I am simply looking for something funny and amusing instead of 
 all  these hurtful insults.
 
 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH- Im done!! Take care evryone, and 
 think before you insult.
 Anyone want to make my day and trade for Friday and/or Saturday?
 Post only when necessary.
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 
  All Along The Watchtower is a Bob Dylan song, not a Jimi Hendrix song.
  
  They have performed In The Eyes of The Maker since Peter's departure.
   Birmingham December '94 they played it with Phish.
  
 All Alog the Watchtower IS a Jimi Hendrix song.
 Bob Dylan gave it to him.    "It's Jimi's song now."
 
 it was WRITTEN by Bob Dylan.    
 
 will it ever be Dave's?
 
 -anyoneotherthanme
 
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 ===================================================
 Dominic Sagolla '96	      --Constantly 
 Swarthmore College              Craving
 Swarthmore, PA 19081			the Perfect
 					Spoon--
 dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 Minarets,\
 
 If anyone has a copy of the show in Winston-Salem, NC about this time last
 year when Dave opened for Phish, I would love to get a copy or make a trade.
 I especially want the encore when Dave and Phish jammed for about 30 min 
 to Watchtower.  Thanks Rich
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 It has happened, Bill Bellemy has, in the prime time hour, introduced the
 video... "this South African guitarist is taking America by storm... UTTAD,
  has a little South American harmonies, some jazz, funk, and rock."  or
 something to that effect.    Also, after seeing the video a couple times, it
 looks like, to me that in the first couple of live shoots Dave's lips are
 moving  sort of weird. -like they had to speed up the live takes so that it
 corresponed with the album singing. lastly, the women who is lying down,
 surrounded by people and says  "WWYS" looks like the model on the front of
 the new Sports Illustrated... hmm. -Zac
 
 ------------------------------
 
 
 Just sitting here translating a little ancient Greek and jamming to the band. 
 I popped in my nice 8/19/93 Wetlands show with a guest appearance by Warren
 Haynes of Allman Bros Band fame.  Great show!  But, I have a question to anyone
 out there who may be holding the answer.  When did the singing start in the
 outro jam of Seek Up.  The earliest I have it that way is the 2/25/94 Sweet
 Brair show.  I love the the "yeahs" and the undecipherable lyrics in this jam. 
 That jam just really makes me want to dance around the room.  The Wetlands show
 has an awesome jam, but no words.  Does anyone know when this started?
 Sorry this isn't a flame or a letter that I'm leaving or usenet message.  Just
 a question about the band that I was wondering about.  I am feeling good
 tonight so I will offer this Wetlands show to the first five newbies (5 or less
 DMB tapes) who email me at DANIELT@TIGER.HSC.EDU.  Ben Tanen offered it over
 the net a few months ago, and I got it, so I wil continue it on through the
 ranks of minarets.  Later and Camel Lights................tom
 
 ------------------------------
 
 End of MINARETS Digest 91
 *************************
 

			

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2/28/95- Cincy!!!

sundtde@iac.net Wed Mar 1 02:21:00 1995

Just got home from the Cincy show, in a total state of euphoria(even though
DMB played before BHTM) and my ears are still ringing and Boyd's smiles are
clear in my mind.... Here's the setlist(any errors, sorry...)

Seek Up
(some jam, anyone??)
Norweigan Wood-
Recently
Lie in Our Graves
WWYS
One Sweet World
Dancing Nancies
Song That Jane Likes
Jimi Thing
Ants....

Being this was my first live DMB experince I am in a state of Dave Exctasy
that I am sure all on this net can, look back, sigh and remember.(I'm sorry
mine was in 1995 on this particular tour, anyway...).  Using the background
of tapes that I have recievedof other showI ...Any more seasoned DMB vets,
please give your input to provide a more rounded picture...
flying eveywhere, One Sweet World- amazing intro jam, Dave smiling, eyes
closed...Jimi Thing,( "this is our hippie song"-Dave), great jam by all...
I don't know I could go on and on...
glances and smiles to one another. ("we're just shooting the shit back
here."- Dave) Boyd rocking, Leroi producing only what he can from a sax,
Carter beaming and jamming and Stefan holding the groove.NO CROWD
SURFING!!!(yeah!), great venue, what else can you ask for???
y'alls bandwith and shut up but I can hardly wait for the other two shows
I'm seeing this tour...
shine your shoes blacktop  your driveway...you get the picture.  Anyway
peace and Dave to all...


Dan

(                        Dan Sundtsundtde@iac.net                    )
(
)
(                        I believe in a sweet imagination                   )
(                    An open road paved by inspiration               )
(                               +Freddy Jones Band+
)
(
)


			

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FREE CONCERT!!!

s252047@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu Wed Mar 1 02:22:31 1995







			

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all peaceful

<@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU:ZU02902@138.26.1.10> Wed Mar 1 02:45:53 1995

Hello everyone,
been reading minarets for about a month or two and decided it was time to
make an appearance.  So here goes.

don't need more tapes than I can listen to in a day since it seems like I'll
end up leaving the same CD in my car for about a week before someone ends up
complaining about it.  However, I do have one show of particular interest if
anyone has the Oct. 15 1994 show opening for Phish in Birmingham, AL.  I
would like the whole show including phish if you can.  I was also
interested, if its not to much to ask, in a copy of the Birmingham show from
Dec. 28, 1994. or any tape with Halloween that someone thinks is
particularly tasty.   Thanks.

drummer I have seen in a very long time.  He can really kick the grooves.
If anyone cares, a friend of mine talked to Carter sometime around the V-day
show and Carter said that Modern Drummer had just finished an interview that
should be in an issue in the next month or show.  Its like a whole article
and not some tidbit thing.

My mother always said,  "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything
at all."  and 2)  You can't punch anybody through the internet so why bother
typing loud.

DMB Homepage.  Its beautiful.

Later,

Jason

			

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Re: all peaceful

pritcha@ucsu.Colorado.EDU Wed Mar 1 03:20:05 1995

Hey everybody!

I am a newbie to the net, but not to DMB.  I have seen Dave about six 
times at the Fox Theatre in Boulder in 1994 and i was wondering if anyone 
would happen to have any bootlegs from Fox shows in Boulder.  I don't 
really have anything to trade - being a newbie and all - but hopefully we 
could work out some kind of deal.  I am particularly interested in 
getting a November show where Dave talks about Pabst Blue Ribbon - I gave 
him that Pabst!  Thanks in advance!

See you minaretters in Milwaukee and Chicago!
			

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Fort Wayne

jeinhorn@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu Wed Mar 1 03:25:24 1995


Friends,

I'm driving about 5 hours to see dave on tuesday, and would like to meet 
up with a couple of you at the show.  I know a couple people from notre 
Dame are going, and I would like you guys to mail me personally.

Steffan seems a little to into Madonna.  He's sort of timid.  Is that 
because of the television?





SETLISTS ARE INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!

ILLINOIS SAYS HELLO


JOEL 
			

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Purchasing tape deck(s)

hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu Wed Mar 1 08:38:33 1995

I'm in the market for a new deck, and I have a question.  How many people
make tapes with a high quality dual deck or do most people use two single 
decks.  Is there that much of a noticeable difference if a tape was made
on a dual deck vs. two singles?  Obviously cost is a factor considering two
decks would run around $600-700.  My most recent Consumer Reports had a Sony
dual deck highly recommended and said its performance nearly matched that of
their recommended Sony single deck.  Anybody out there who regularly 
participates in tape trees who uses a dual deck, have you had any complaints?
I  guess I was under the assumption that you shouldn't be a branch in a tape
tree unless you had two HQ single decks...

Comments and opinions don't necessarily need to be posted for all to see, 
unless it might be beneficial to all who tape...

thanks,
Brian

P.S. on a random note, The Black Crowes are coming to Gainesville and the ad
for their show here said at the bottom "The Black Crowes strongly encourage
fans to tape this performance."  Never seen anything like that before...
________________________________________________________________________________

________________________________________________________________________________




			

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Where to go in Dallas, TX

jason.doak@cbn.org Wed Mar 1 08:39:33 1995

			

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dmb in europe

<@uvmvm.uvm.edu:C452-033@IRLEARN.UCD.IE> Wed Mar 1 09:40:09 1995

A few digest ago in with all of the flaming Alex Crothers posted that the
dates in Europe would be solo.  This is really cool because we will have
a greater oppertunity to hear So Much To Say, Blue Water, Say Goodbye, and
other great songs that they are not playing right now because of the time
constraints of playing with BHTM.  What I was wondering was if anyone knows
the names of the venues that they are playing in Europe, especially Amstredam.
I'm going to be there on the 30th and NEED to get tix.  I would love any
information that anyone has.  Thank you and thanks for your time.

Mike Wojkowski
An American in Dublin
C452-033@IRLEARN.UCD.IE

P.S. Dave opening for Bon Jovi is really interesting, but for anyone who wants
to know, Van Halen is OPENING for Bon Jovi for the rest of the tour in Europe!?
			

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NEWSGROUP

jazzbo@eliza.netaxis.com Wed Mar 1 10:51:59 1995

Jeez, don't you guys think you're being selfish?  I mean, I've been on this
mailing list since the very beginning, and I'm all for a DMB newsgroup.
This list has gotten REALLY huge, and a newsgroup seems like the logical
solution to this.  About keeping Minarets secret, well.. that seems really
selfish.  Isn't the internet here for the free exchange of information?
Are we here to judge someone just because they didn't have the pleasure of
finding out about DMB when we did?  I don't get it.



P.S. Have a nice day.
--
Have you ever gotten sick and tired of hearing AT&T take credit for things
they haven't invented?  You will.

(jazzbo@eliza.netaxis.com)


			

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Re: I think a lot of you would agree...

ddevito@copper.helios.nd.edu Wed Mar 1 11:15:53 1995


 Fellow minareters,
 
 	I just got back from the library (where I videotaped Alt. Nation),
 so I've had some time to think about it.  As ranDOM wrote (see below), I
 think Kennedy could have asked some more intelligent questions.  But what
 I disagree with is that the Madonna reference was stupid.  It was just a
 random name that Kennedy threw at them, which actually led Stefan to break
 his silence and say "I have her latest album!"  (I also think Kennedy's
 mocking of "Vogue" was somewhat humorous.)  
 neo-HIPPIE, and asked Stefan what he thought of being related to Phish, Big
 Head Todd (ironically enough), and other HORDE-type bands.  Relax, ranDOM,

Apparently you missed the New York Times article on Monday.  I saw
about 5 GD or Garcia references.  I have a hard copy of it if
you'd like it.  A completely inane piece of work.


 who are dedicated to DMB in some way, so let's just enjoy it! 
 
 				    Now I REALLY need some Dave,
 						
 						Jim
 

Yeah, I'm enjoying it.  I hope to enjoy it even more in a week
at Fort Wayne.  

Dominic
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dominic J. DeVito, student, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Notre Dame

			

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12.27.94 needed

KUHP57A@mail.prodigy.com Wed Mar 1 11:27:49 1995

if anyone has the atlanta 12.27.94 show and it's good qual. 
i would like to trade w/ you. the newest show i have is the 
b'ham on 12.28.94 and will be getting the valentine show
soon. e-me back b/c i'm no longer on the 'net. i also have
about 48 other hours to trade. thanks. later...




			

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Subscribe

am984@freenet.carleton.ca Wed Mar 1 11:37:57 1995

Hey,
I hope this works,

Subscribe

Dave



--
YA! Our Children
Are Old Enough
To Read Icculus
-Phish
			

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kyle, where are you?

marcusme@student.msu.edu Wed Mar 1 11:38:45 1995

Kyle, I'm looking for you real hard! I just want to talk to you. I'm leaving
tomorrow for Arizona and New Mexico, so if you don't find this today(March1)
then wait until March 13. I miss you tons, I'll be thinking of you tonight at
the Dave Matthews concert.
			

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Re: Error Condition Re: subscribe

n_connor@oz.plymouth.edu Wed Mar 1 12:08:01 1995

suscribe minarets Nicole Connor

			

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what to do in Cleveland/Columbus

staunton.2@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Mar 1 12:29:45 1995

Anyone traveling to Cleveland or Columbus for upcoming shows? Here is some
useful info.
***********************************CLEVELAND********************************
***
public hall or the convention center.  It is on E. 6th and St. Clair, you
schould be able to find free parking on the streets if you are willing to
walk a few blocks.

will be packed.  The Flats is the area by the river where there is about 50
nightclubs/bars. The east bank (side closer to downtown) is generally a
younger crowd and the west bank would be older.  Just follow the signs
posted all over town to get there.  Traffic might be a bitch since they are
doing construction everywhere down there, but if your in town you go down
there.  The Rock Hall of fame under constucion is near the music hall. It's
at North Coast Harbor at the the end of E.9th, it looks cool check it out.

MAGAZINE TO FIND OUT EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THE CITY.  There are
available everywhere, bars record stores and it's free. It gives you all
the info you need.


Broad street about half a mile west of the center of downtown. Parking is
right there.

east(toward downtown) on Broad and take a right on High. Go for about a
mile after you pass downtown until you see Hosters (a micro brewery), the
High-Beck, Victories etc. and your there.
2.  Campus.  Thursday nights are a big night for campus bars, so they might
be a bit crowded.  If you just want to drink (and not dance) I recomend the
Cornerstone, Bub's, Not Al's pub (NOT Not Al's Rockers) and the Bier Stube.
All four are within two blocks of each other on High Street.  When leaving
Vet's go up to High and take a left.  Continue on High for about 3 or four
miles and you wont be able to miss campus.

pride mail me back and I'll try to help, and I'll see you all at the shows.

(punchin') pat.


			

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Random Thoughts...

beck74@potsdam.edu Wed Mar 1 12:39:23 1995

I was watching Alternative Nation last nite, and for the most part I feel
it was pretty cool.  I esp. like when they jumped on her right off the bat
about dumb questions... I know it was just a joke all around, but it made
me think that Dave new nothing all too relevant would be asked.  Of course
I would have liked more probing questions but what do you expect from MTV?
If anyone is interested in doing some trading Please let me know.  I posted
I am really interested in getting a massive collection so anyone interested
please get back to me... I'll be more than happy to send the tapes (exectly
the ones you need or suggest) return postage etc...
One last thing... I feel BHTM are a great band...I know this isn't the BHTM
net, but why can't we support other bands we think are good?  Lets help
each other out, ya know? I think they're are a damn fine band if for
nothing else because they don't sound like all the other bands out there...
well, at least not like MOST of the other bands out there.
really need DBM music!!! Please be generous and send a boy whose starving
for some great music some tapes!!!  Thank You!

"I've got bugs in my head"-Edward

Danny Boy


			

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taping equipment

barein@mail.wm.edu Wed Mar 1 13:42:20 1995

Howdy,
of this from being on several of the nets.  I just wanted to reafh a
lot of people.  I have a question on taping euqipment.
patch into the soundboard with a tapedeck of some sort and record the
show that way.  I am looking for more specifics on how to accomplish
this, specifically what euipment is needed.  Can I just take a tape
deck compnent off of a stereo system and use that?  What kind of
wires do I need?  What is a soundpatch.  A couple of my friends are
in bands and I was looking ot tape a few shows, or maybe even some
other shows given the chance and I am in need of this information.
Thank you in advance for any responses.  I appreciate it.

Laters,

Brett

			

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DMB on the charts

wmartin@s850.mwc.edu Wed Mar 1 14:27:14 1995


According to the latest issue of the College Music Journal DMB is ranked 

Top 150 Radio - #34, up three from last time
Retail - #29, up nine from 38
Triple AAA (the VH1 of radio stations) - #1 !!!, up from number 9
Video (alternative format) - #23

In Core college radio stations that report to the CMJ UTTAD is number 25 
in tendering requests for airplay in the Midwest and number 15 in the 
South.  Still not getting many requests in the East (NY, PA, CT, DE, MA, 
VT, ME, etc.) or in the west so everybody take the time to call your 
college radio station and request something, anything off of the album.


			

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WANNA TRADE FOR FAT DMB TAPE

Jeruuu@aol.com Wed Mar 1 14:55:26 1995

I have NEW YEARS 93-94 A++ quality fromthe sbd.  I need any other Dmb tapes
especially VAlentines Day
			

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kda108@email.psu.edu Wed Mar 1 14:57:30 1995

Please, take my name off of the list--- this is not a request,or mistake!!!!
------------------------------kda108@psu.edu----------
			

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further info on wilm

73261.1133@compuserve.com Wed Mar 1 15:03:34 1995

well here we go again, i posted yesterday that tix would be on sale today 
but there not....they claim to be hammering out all the details as fast as 
possible, but that,s not very fast in this here neck of the woods....the 
reason for change of venue was the jaycees would not allow alcohol at 
fairgrounds, so the show is now being held at airport, alcohol will be sold 
on the grounds. no coolers
the word is now that tix will be sold in the next few days, i'll let 
everyone know as soon as i hear something....so i guess we'll all have  to 
have a little patience
see ya,   alan
			

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Need music!

jfrench@ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu Wed Mar 1 16:09:12 1995

Hello there-
Dave Mathews bootleg to my name.  I am not a new fan, it is just that I 
am living in Bloomington, IN where it appears that Dave is just a fad if 
he is anything.  I am a huge fan.  I have seen him three times in the 
past week (Roseland both nights, and Cincinatti).  I do not have much to 
trade up with.  I have access to enough Phish and Dead Bootlegs to kill a 
man.  I also have figured out almost every single DMB song that is on any 
of the three albums on guitar.  
right arm for the Roseland show with Trey and Popper).  If you are a kind 
sould and wouldn't mind just letting me send you a couple of blank tapes, 
I would apreciate it.  Or, name a Phish show and I will see what I can do.
p.s. Hope this works, this is my first message.
			

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oops

rtrim@magicnet.net Wed Mar 1 16:13:44 1995

well, my mail server went down today, so i did not get any mail. if anyone
tried to get in touch with me, please resend.
thanks
ryan




			

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Re: Purchasing tape deck(s)

brucew@fred.Colorado.EDU Wed Mar 1 16:21:16 1995

Two single decks are almost always better than one dual.  The dual
decks are generally of lower quality and do not allow many of the
features of two singles.  With two single decks you can adjust the
signal level on the tape you are creating which you can rarely do
with a dual deck.  There are also few 3-head dual decks (3 heads 
allows you to listen to the actual recording on the tape as you make it.
This can be significantly different than the signal being sent to the
recorder).  

If you want a good taping system, be sure that the deck you will
record with has 3 heads, the playback deck can have 2.  Bias tones for
adjusting the bias for recording is also very nice.  When buying, look
at the frequency range of the deck as well as the wow & flutter.  A
wider frequency range is, of course, better.  But beware of misleading
numbers; I think most companies list their range as 3dB points, others
list their range in all sorts of ways.  Wow & flutter should be low.

Many people I know stay away from Sony decks.  Their quality for the
dollar is often not as good as others.  Of course I ended up buying
one anyway because I found a floor model of a nice deck at a going out
deck at the time).  Denons are generally good.  Aiwa used to have 
problems with reliability, but I think they've fixed that now.  
Nakamichis are very good but even more expensive.

I've been happy with my Denon 710 and my Sony 611S (? I'm not sure of
the model number but it has 3 heads, bias tones, and Dolby S).

Bruce Willner


			

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my anniversary

lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu Wed Mar 1 16:32:55 1995

hi

Was just cleaning up some mailboxes and came across the message welcoming
me to Minarets 2/18/94. One year ago. My, how we've grown!

need to possess less than ten Dave tapes AND suggest to me one way we can
Band.

breathing deeply,
JOE

        Joe & Laura         

			

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Orlando

rtrim@magicnet.net Wed Mar 1 16:37:23 1995

oh yeah. just wanted to let everyone know that i got tix to the Orlando show
here on April 10 at the Edge. is dave or BHT headlining???? also, anyone
know where else in Florida they will be before/after this??? oh yeah, still
a rumor that they may open for Petty in May, can anyone confirm?? finally,
can anyone give me any hints as to how to meet the band/go backstage at the
April 10 show??? do you have to already know the band to go backstage or what?? 
thanks for any help
ryan




			

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stoomey@abacus.bates.edu Wed Mar 1 16:50:31 1995

setminarets mail digest
			

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Re: New York Times Article

0066478@SHU.sacredheart.edu Wed Mar 1 16:58:06 1995

oh c'mon. it's the nytimes.  i thought it was pretty cool.  comparing 
dave to fripp!? that's one hell of a compliment.  bht, can be boring.  
it's too bad he didn't go the next night.  he would have been blown away.
-patrick

			

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counting to ten slowly...

erw@medinfo.rochester.edu Wed Mar 1 16:59:13 1995

boys girls, animals...

well well well.  i need a bit of a break...those of you who admonished me for 
goofing with personal stuff on the net....fine.  you're right...but i find it 
hard to believe you bag on me when 90% of messages are about the first time 
someone saw dmb on mtv...

the road warrior who told us all what to put on net and what not to...hmmm
no thanks...i don't need a net where all i can look at are setlists and shit...

i like human contact...so to speak.

so personal posts only please...nothing on net will scorch my eyes for a bit...
i feel so sheep-like leaving net for a while.
baaaah.

just to let people know...sending people posts being all stern and shit like 
you're thirty years old is really dull..(joe and laura, etc)..affect your best 
parental voice and say.."listen eric i really think this kind of post is 
detrimental to net morale...so please refrain from being so puerile in the 
future....everybody's happy...everybody's free...c'mon buddy...sing along!"   to 
me, personal posts and flames make me smile and laugh...as do good show reviews, 
etc...so if people just want to read trade lists and nytimes articles, cool.

but its kinda boring.

peace for awhile.
settle
eric

			

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Trade For...

50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU Wed Mar 1 17:18:14 1995

hey now!
i don't know if most of you new people know who i am. i figure with so many
new folks on the .net, that i might be able to set up some juicy tape trades.
i have about 35 hours of primo quality DMB. i don't high speed dub, and i 
don't use dolby. i usually trade two tapes at a time. i am looking for some
specific things at the moment, so if you have them, drop me a line...

11/08/94 (must have this, willing to trade two shows for this tape!!!)
02/24/95 (soundboard if possible)
01/??/95 (UVM show with Trey)
any and all studio outtakes and/or rehearsals

OGES
1-800-HELP MYSELF (always willing to answer newbie questions)
			

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BHTM VS. DMB.

tmunoz@abacus.bates.edu Wed Mar 1 17:33:55 1995


Dear All,					1.March.1995

Monsters (BHTM) in a short 'post.'  I think that the two bands are very
different and should not be compared.  BHTM has a bigger name
recognition right now in the West and Mid-West and that is why they are
opening on those legs of the tour.  I have seen BHTM three times now and I
thought that they sounded good every time.  I will admit that I think that
the DMB is a much better group and even though I like their sound more I still
respect, listen, and support BHTM as a band.  I think that we should
support musicians that we think play good music.  I wish both bands great
luck in the upcoming tour dates.  Thanks for your time.
Later...peace and pipe...talk hard...
			

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2nd DMB Show

chill@uceng.uc.EDU Wed Mar 1 18:07:50 1995

I can't believe I wrote this thing, needless to say I had a great time at
the show and wanted to share it.  Send me some personal mail if you even
care at all.

started here about an hour ago...

I see the setlist was posted pretty quick, someone from Dayton, eh?  That's
where I live now, no comment.  I had two second row balcony seats for the
show, but because of a bunch of confusion I ended up going by myself.  I
was outside for awhile trying to sell my extra ticket, but had to piss
really bad, so I walked around to the alley (not being quick enough at the
time to notice people going in and out the side door with thier ticket
stubs, to smoke I guess it was no smoking inside, huh?)  Standing there in
between a van and the wall I hear some lady guiding a truck out of the
alley, and see a small open door with a big FIRE DOOR sign on it.
"lightbulb over head"  guided me casually down the alley and into the
theater.  Cool as hell, catacomb-like basement with the remains of a
buffet, I grabbed a coke.  Nobody was around but I could hear the music, I
think it was Milhaus (my cousin roomed with the lead singer at Xavier) but
I didn't recognize the tunes.  I cracked open one of the pit doors and
looked up to see the crowd and a BIG security guard, so I "walked on down
the hall, and I came to a door" some closet with a bunch of fuses, noted it
as a good hiding spot if necessary.  Turned around and this dude in a black
jacket asked me if that went to stage right, "Nope, stage right is up those
stairs, I'll show ya".  I had seen the signs :-) So I foolowed him up and
right onto the stage, shit.  It was Milhaus alright, they could have had
Psychological Vacation instead, dammitman.  I chilled out while they
finished thier last tunes, finished my coke.  I got a little bored once the
band left, I didn't think DMB would be on NEXT.  So I continued exploring,
Stage left had a HUGE soundboard, but I didn't think it would've been
DMB's, nobody was around to give my blanks to.  Some chick said something
to this dude about not having a pass or something, didn't catch it, but saw
where everybody was going.  Walked right into this fat security guard
sitting at the entrance, of course I was coming from the stage so I said
high and smiled and walked on up the stairs.  Door with sign said DMB
dressing rooms, I opened it and strolled on in.  Dave was walking out of
one of the rooms and into another, "dave" really soft got his attention
before he walked in.  "I said hey, I'm Charlie and Chas and, uh, we met you
in Indianapolis back in Nov, I was waay fucked, up sorry about that."  I
hadn't really thought of anything to say, but reached into my pocket and
pulled out a Mary Adam 12 sticker and gave it to him, "Here's a great band
from Columbus...", "How's it go?" M A 12.  So then he asked me how I was
and I looked at him, and said, "Great, well fuckin' great now, things have
been rough"  Then a dude walked up like he was talkin to us and said Dave
needed a little time before he goes on, come back after the show.  "Oh I'm
sorry dude, OK no problem, hey can I have one of those beers? Thanks,
later."  So then I walked on down the stairs, passed Stephan, he sort of
looked at me like I freaked him out or something, but was just in a hurry I
think.  Then Carter sort of bolted by while I was BS'n with the Fat guard,
and made the mistake of asking Mike for a pass, I really wasn't that
buzzed, but when he asked how I got in I told him the truth, and that Dave
said to come back after the show, but I had good seats, so wanted a pass so
I could come back later, no luck.  So I stood there with the Fat guy, Mike
told him I was leavin' when I finished my beer, dammit.  So I went around
and nobody was lookin for tickets so I went on in.  Straight to the floor,
there was a big crowd in the isle so I got down front and slid in 4th row,
then got moved over to the right side isle.  "Lie in Our Graves" I was
psyched and a little suprised.  I was jammin half in the isle all night.
The security guard didn't let anybody in the isle for the rest of the show,
BIIG MF'r.  The show rocked, but I did think that they stopped Recently
short or skipped an intro thing or something then I knew, 'cause Boyd
looked at Dave funny.  Intro to Dancing Nancies was cool, what did Dave
say?  Like what if you had gone down instead of up, who could you have
been.  I think it was the Jam in Jimi Thing that I liked the best, I found
myself groovin' hard to the Jams, Like in Jimi Thing especially.  I thought
Ants as the final tune was a good choice, because Cinci is such a
conservative town, crowd was trendy, etc.  I thought they really got into
playing WWYS.  Was it played anywhere after new year's except Letterman?
They also seemed to love the crowd getting into the well known tunes like
Ants etc.  Dave played a nice long intro after announcing One Sweet World.
I couldn't believe it was over so fast, they were gone, dude's were
changin' the equipment etc. I had to sit down.  Then I went around and the
fat guard got pissed at me, so I went back in the show and ran into the
dude that asked me to give Dave some time.  He said that security guard was
all pissed that I had aced his ass and shit and that I'd better not go
back, but he took me up to the balcony.  I had to meet Kelly, (remember the
confusion thing) so I left.  Drove home this morning.  Damn this is too
freakin long and crazy boring, if you're still reading you're as whacked as
I am.  I asked around all the soundboards if anybody was taping, but I bet
Bagby was Stage Left, not sure.  So if anybody taped the show please let me
know, I'm also looking for 11/14/94 Indianapolis.

Here's the setlist posted earlier


Seek Up
Recently
Lie in our Graves
WWYS
One Sweet World
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Song that Jane likes
Jimi Thing
Rhyme & Reason
Ants

already and promise to get a copy to you soon.

Damn I GOTTA GO.

Chas


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Watchtower with Phish

DJDG@aol.com Wed Mar 1 18:52:57 1995

I'd also really like to get that tape from NC if anyone has it.
			

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Re: Purchasing tape deck(s)

s252047@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu Wed Mar 1 18:59:05 1995

 
 Many people I know stay away from Sony decks.  Their quality for the
 dollar is often not as good as others.  Of course I ended up buying
 one anyway because I found a floor model of a nice deck at a going out
 deck at the time).  Denons are generally good.  Aiwa used to have 
 problems with reliability, but I think they've fixed that now.  
 Nakamichis are very good but even more expensive.
 
 I've been happy with my Denon 710 and my Sony 611S (? I'm not sure of
 the model number but it has 3 heads, bias tones, and Dolby S).
 
 Bruce Willner
   

Just to add a little something...

I've always had problems with Sony, but NEVER, EVER with Onkyo..especially
the dual tape deck.  I agree that 2 single decks are better than one, but
both the recording decka nd playback deck have 3 heads.  Onkyo will cost
somewhat more than Aiwa, Sony and Fisher (Price), but IT'S WORTH IT!!!




			

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what to do in Cleveland/Columbus

staunton.2@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Mar 1 19:16:23 1995

For anyone traveling to Cleveland or Columbus for the shows, here is a
little info you might apreciate
*************************************CLEVELAND********************************
known as public hall or the convention center.  It's located on St. Clair
and E. 6th. You should be able to park for free on the road, if you are
willing to walk a couple of blocks.

is off season right now, it's still a great time.  The Flats is the
entertainment district along the river, there are about 40-50 nightclubs,
bars and resturants down there.  It is less than a mile from the music
hall, just head west on St. Clair until you reach the bottom of the hill,
and your there, or just follow the signs all over town. There is a younger
crowd on the east bank than the west bank.
GRAB A SCENE MAGAZINE.  It's a free music/ events paper that tells you
about everything that is going on in the city.  You can pick one up in any
bar, music store or whatnot.  The Gateway area(sportsbars) and the
Wharehouse district(yuppie/laid-back/jazz bars) are also less than a mile
from the music hall and there is something usually going on there.

WHILE IN CLEVELAND.... Check out the Rock Hall of Fame, it's located at
north coast harbor, at the end of E.9th st, less than a mile from the music
hall.  And Tower City is a cool mall if you want to tool around for a
while, ask anyone in the city they will point you to it.

RADIO STATION TO LISTEN TO......107.9 The End

write me if you need specifics

*************************************COLUMBUS*********************************
(I hate this city, but I like Ohio State, so I'm stuck here)

THE SHOW.....The show is at Veteran's Memorial Audatoriun.  Its located
just west of downtown on Broad St. once your over the bridge it is right
there.

WHAT TO DO.....There are really two places that you could go, campus or
German Village.  Before the show niether are two busy, but since Thurs
night is a big bar night at OSU the bars tend to get packed, but it's the
funnest night of the week on campus.  There are only a few non-dance/cheese
bars on campus, but they are the Cornerstone on W.11th and High(the
largest/cleanest of the group), Not Al's pub (NOT NOT AL'S ROCKERS) on
E.9th and High, Bub's on W.10 and High and finally the Bier Stube set back
on High in between W9th and W8th.  The Cornerstone  gets my nod if there is
to be a gathering in Columbus.
downtown.  Take a left onto High and follow it for about 3 miles and you
wont be able to miss campus.
of lage Bars, Hoster's (a micro-brewery), the High-Beck and Victory's allon
the same block.
Broad, towards downtown, and take a right on High and go a couple of miles
until you see Hosters.

RADIO STATION.............CD 101.1

hometown pride write me back.  Hope to see you all in Cleveland and
Columbus.

-(punchin') pat



			

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taping, decks, etc

EDOHERTY@MACALSTR.EDU Wed Mar 1 20:07:38 1995


A nethead friend of mine put together a large four-part file on taping, buying
decks, trading, etc.  It is very well done and would be a great help to anybody
who is interested in buying decks and getting into trading.  It is also a good
read for anyone else too.  The author is Michael Bell and he posted it to


You should be able to get it there.  Let me know if you need more help finding
it.

Peace!

Eric

p.s. I'm looking for the Roseland show with Trey and the January show with
Trey.  If anyone has 1-3 SBD of these let me know.  I have about 1000hrs of 
stuff to trade.

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Eric Doherty        "Wake up to find out                    / /(  - -
Macalester College   that you are the eyes of the world"    |   -   |
1600 Grand Ave.               -Robert Hunter                - - _)/ /
St. Paul, MN  55105                                          (__ __)
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What's the deal with this screen saver?

HAINS@suvax1.stetson.edu Wed Mar 1 20:33:46 1995

All-
As seen in the CD jacket..  Has anyone seen or heard it/them?
Laters
Bryan

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...and watch the sparks fly!

tnb2d@server.cs.virginia.edu Wed Mar 1 20:51:41 1995

last night, but I have one question.  Why wasn't it Dave and BOYD (or
any of the others for that matter) hosting the show?  And the
have in this choice?  Was everybody else busy?  Is it race?  Sex
appeal?  If you've ever seen Boyd Tinsley live and in person he is
just about the sexiest man alive...

			

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Re: ...and watch the sparks fly!

TripnBilly@aol.com Wed Mar 1 21:19:00 1995

Well, maybe Stefan was on Alt.Nation with Dave because he actually wanted to.
Stefan wanted some more exposure, or maybe the others didn't want to.  Either
way, Stefan deserves as much a shot as any, because he is part of the band.

"That shit kicks my ass"  -Dave  11/3/92
			

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Boyd interview (:

MPOWERS1@ithaca.edu Wed Mar 1 21:35:26 1995

is doing funny things today.  Hey, the Boyd interview was a success this
afternoon!  He was sooooooo cool!  We talked for about 20 minutes or so.
I think I got in everybody's ideas and questions too.  I'll try to post it
all real soon on the net.  I'm facing two hell days of work so it might be
delayed till this wkend.  Later!

Mike


			

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Re: ****READ THIS- I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY:)*****

DJDG@aol.com Wed Mar 1 21:40:35 1995

Does anyone have a tape of the revival of Blue Water.  I love that song.  For
all y'all who haev heard it, does Boyd still take that incredible solo at the
end for like two and a half minutes?  That's probably my favorite DMB thing
of all (besides #36).
			

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