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peace, love and clare--me and sandy ain't all bad
johnfro@acpub.duke.edu Mon Oct 31 20:31:06 1994
everybody
chill out
smoke a bowl
drink a beer
pull the sticks out of your asses
lighten up.
don't be so fucking sensitive
i think the anger on the net is a good thing, seeing as it is all just
for fun.
everybody was just busting freddie's chops about the message proliferation
humor is good
we like good things
we are all among friends
i love clare and so does sandy
we should all love clare
sarcasm is not a bad thing
people taking letters to seriously is a bad thing
dave would agree with me
we like dave
dave is a good thing
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Re: peace, love and clare--me and sandy ain't all bad
Kristen.B.Hinman@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Mon Oct 31 21:12:28 1994
you guys are all fucked up. how do you have time for all these messages?
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Re: MINARETS digest 333
rmg@acpub.duke.edu Mon Oct 31 22:16:41 1994
Good to see we'll all on the same side. Maybe we could talk to Dave
about his jamming some time?
All good things,
Russ.
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AWARE
sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Mon Oct 31 23:51:47 1994
The number to get AWARE info is 1-800-AWARE65
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn 37383-1000
(615)-598-2190
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Re: peace, love and clare--me and sandy ain't all bad
ak148@columbia.edu Mon Oct 31 23:55:05 1994
One Thing... REC.MUSIC.PHISH ... might as well set up alt.minarets.
Well, I'd prefer alt.minarets anyways, but heh.
Stim ya later,
-Knowles
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Andrew Knowles | PRAY
ak148@columbia.edu | FOR
"Out there..... ACTION!!!!" - Jason Polakow | WIND
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hot damn in a frying pan
SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU Tue Nov 1 00:02:02 1994
Lisner is sold out. Poop.
wow, amazing how flames can spiral out of control here... haha. guess
everyone should relax, smoke their mind a while.
oh, speaking of smoking and drugs and shit like dat. personally, i say
discuss the band's drug use if you want to. i think that many of them smoke
(this is obvious, pretty much undisputable fact after the number of stories
i've heard) and some do more than that. a little reefer is okay with me, but
one story i heard involved something harder (not heroin) and i wasn't
psyched. not because they don't have a right to do whatever the hell they
want with their bodies (laws be damned), but because too many good musicians/
actors/etc. die that way. and, call me selfish, but i'd be very sad and VERY
pissed if one of them died of an overdose. cause *that* shit ain't so
cool... everybody loses.
so, there's my $.02. i'd just also like to offer up my personal plea to stop
posting the "i really like dave but i need tapes HEEEEELLLLLPPPPP" messages.
if you're new, just wait until a tree forms and join it.
i'm really looking for new and interesting music to check out. thru aru-net
and my brother i'm getting some medeski, martin, and wood. haven't heard
them yet but everything i've heard about them is wonderful. and shannon
worrell sounds great. and everything. i know rusted root is pretty good
(but, in general, they are much more redundant than dave and not nearly the
god he is lyrically -- then again, who is?) jackopierce sounds very good as
does jambay. could someone send me the address for those AWARE cds? they
seem to be loaded with almost all of the bands i've just mentioned. if you
hear of any bands that are groovey, let me know and i'll add them to my list
of "cool small bands" and then i'll post it again. just a list i've been
keeping for about 2 years now...
peace and your momma,
redi
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Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332
jcdavis@wam.umd.edu Tue Nov 1 00:07:17 1994
So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but
have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for
sure, please post.
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It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends." I think.
Woj
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It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
Only Dave knows the REAL title..
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Re: hot damn in a frying pan
jtv2j@henson.cs.virginia.edu Tue Nov 1 00:24:09 1994
oh, speaking of smoking and drugs and shit like dat. personally, i say
discuss the band's drug use if you want to. i think that many of them smoke
(this is obvious, pretty much undisputable fact after the number of stories
i've heard) and some do more than that. a little reefer is okay with me, but
one story i heard involved something harder (not heroin) and i wasn't
psyched.
Nod, I'd pretty much believe it for all of them, except for Carter,
since he swears he needs to keep a clean head I'll give him the
benefit of the doubt. That one story wouldn't be the infamous
Miller's story, would it?????
John
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Re: hot damn in a frying pan
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Tue Nov 1 00:27:40 1994
i'm really looking for new and interesting music to check out. thru aru-net
and my brother i'm getting some medeski, martin, and wood. haven't heard
them yet but everything i've heard about them is wonderful. and shannon
worrell sounds great. and everything. i know rusted root is pretty good
(but, in general, they are much more redundant than dave and not nearly the
god he is lyrically -- then again, who is?) jackopierce sounds very good as
does jambay. could someone send me the address for those AWARE cds? they
seem to be loaded with almost all of the bands i've just mentioned. if you
hear of any bands that are groovey, let me know and i'll add them to my list
of "cool small bands" and then i'll post it again. just a list i've been
keeping for about 2 years now...
peace and your momma,
redi
Another great band you might want to check out is the Edwin McCain Band.
He's got 2 songs on the AWARE II cd as well as his cd own entitled
Solitude. He sounds a lot like Dave and I think they've jammed together.
or you can call 1-800-333-1245.
Jen
Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN 37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
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Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332
jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu Tue Nov 1 01:09:01 1994
Maybe I can help settle this little debate... I don't know thw proper
term for whar it the song used to be called, but I have Dave's songlist
from 10/8/94, and it is written as Say Goodbye, which if I'm not mistaken
he also says on the tape of this show.
Jen
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New Music/ Selling Out
fhouse@vt.edu Tue Nov 1 01:17:23 1994
recomendation on the AWARE cd's, they're both kick ass (AWARE 1 and 2)...
But for those of you who haven't heard of ACOUSTIC JUNCTION you are REALLY
missing out... They've played with Dave before, and a lot of people think
they're violin/flute/keyboard player is better at violin than Boyd... They
jam real hard and I'd be happy to make some copies for people.. They're
getting big up North where I'm from...
at shows in new cities where the following is relatively small... But down
South here (and places like Irving Plaza) the band should give the old
timers what they want to hear... I to will keep my fingers crossed that Dave
doesn't someday pull a Phish and have a video on MTV!!!!! (I realize this is
a bit extreme but you get the point!!)
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Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332
jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu Tue Nov 1 01:25:39 1994
sorry everone. I just realized that half of that post made me sound like
I was illiterate. Forgive me,it's getting late,
jf
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Re: hot damn in a frying pan
grayp@pinn.net Tue Nov 1 02:03:55 1994
Jennie posted something about Edwin McCain, he's great, & i'm feelin generous
For these reasons, the first 4 people that mail me with the word
"solitude" and only that word in the subject line will get copies of my
dat master of the edwin mccain band 7-30-94.
I can do dat or analog so whatever you prefer.
gray
Silence comes with no instructions!
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a follow up on my flame...
STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Nov 1 02:12:37 1994
i've gotten a bit of personal mail saying i was too harsh about the
quick lay and goodbye thing. i'd just like to apologize for that. it's
just that i know how dave feels about the song, and i wanted to let
everyone on the net know, too. i also forgot to tell the people not
once again... humble apologies...
and clare, it turned out pretty cool....
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karma karma karma chameleon....you come and go.....
STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Nov 1 02:39:28 1994
ARRRRRRRRRGHGHGHGHGH.
we should put in big blinking bold type letters on the welcome message
that the term selling out is taboo on minarets. DON'T SAY IT. DON'T
THINK IT.
did anybody stop to think that perhaps dave isn't as into the long
jamming thing as some other bands? maybe he likes to play shorter
songs and just feel it flow. if you pay attention to most of those
long jams of yesteryear, you'll notice that dave is nowhere to be
found, so perhaps he decided that since these were his songs, maybe
he should tighten them up so that he could involve himself more.
dave is not selling out. how can i say this so confidently? because
there's no such thing. only selfish people who believe that the quickest
route to success must be the wrong one use the term "selling out."
and like someone else said, dave's had a rough 27-28(?) years on this
planet, and all of our bitching in the world probably isn't likely
to change anything. that's not to say that he doesn't care about his
fans, or minarets.net. he does. but he just wants to do his own thing.
and another thing while i'm on the rag, for all you people (ahem, ben)
who want to complain publicly about how much the new, bigger minarets.net
sucks, why don't you just ask alex to send you updates with all the new
addresses that have subscribed and send every one of them personal notes
that say "you suck." this isn't your net, this isn't your computer
network, and for alot of people around here, that isn't even your computer.
so quit hogging minarets to yourself. if you paid money to create this
thing, i'd see the point to being annoyed at four lines of a post that
asks who anne was. all you have to do is, if digestified, hit return, if
not digestified, hit delete. for those select few who actually do have
to pay to download messages, maybe now is a good time to digestify.
now, obviously, i'm a bit cranky. it's 2am and i have to get up in 5
hours to go to work and then take a french test. waa. i'm gonna go
take a deep breath now, get some sleep, and wait to see what sort of
fireworks i've drawn on myself this time...
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Re: Drugs = Being out of tune?
NebuIous@aol.com Tue Nov 1 03:19:32 1994
Well, anyone else notice a connection??? I'm all for
[stuff deleted]
I've noticed (big time on the Uva Ampitheatre show) that boyd is
almost a full step out of tune at points, and only before the
encore does he fix that. I know for a fact that he smokes--he
asked me if i had a bowl on me at one point, but if you're
getting so high that you can't play right, then maybe something
should be done by yourself to fix this. There's nothing wrong
Hmmm... the only time I've truly noticed him being out of tune was in the
Rhyme and Reason lick.
But the fact is, he still sings harmony perfectly well (the "Minarets" 'what
you see...' line comes to mind at Roseland, a show where he was out of tune
for R&R) live, and at least in my past experience as a musician, singing
harmony WELL is much harder than simply playing in tune/the right notes. The
guy is a trained violinist, no mater how fucked up he is he'll probably
remember how to stay in tune.
Getting off of the soapbox,
Yeah, it is getting overused these days aint it? :)
Ben
just another memo from the cellar,
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* "I might be a mess * -- Ben Sterling -- *
* but I try to stay pure" * -- Nebuious@aol.com -- *
* -Luscious Jackson * -- New York, NY -- *
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Re: Drugs = Being out of tune?
wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu Tue Nov 1 03:32:30 1994
I would like to take this moment to point out that I IN NO WAY
MEANT TO INSINUATE THAT BOYD IS GETTING TOO FUCKED UP TO PLAY. I
just merely meant that when drugs interfere with the music they
make, then, maybe it's time for them to change that fact. I
apologize to those I may have offended, but my point remains the
same...
Anyway, anyone have any info on that "new song" they soundchecked
the other night??? Is it "drive in, drive out"??? Or maybe a
reworking of Spotlight???
Oh well...
Wade
people off...
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Smile, reach, hold. Reach, grasp, cry. Grasp in desperation.
The Candle's Flame falls to darkness. Look to the future, to the
sunset on the horizon. Smile through tears, Hold through years.
Night has fallen. The Candle's Flame is extinguished.
10-31-94 WMC
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Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332
malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU Tue Nov 1 05:48:30 1994
So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but
have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for
sure, please post.
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It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends." I think.
Woj
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_______________________
It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
Only Dave knows the REAL title..
I've got a tape in which Dave specifically says "This next song's called
'Say Goodbye'." BTW, if anybody has tapes with the songs "#36" or "Cry
Freedom," I'd love to trade.
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The name bootleg.
mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu Tue Nov 1 10:43:53 1994
I recall reading a post of a suggestion to rename "bootlegs" since
this word has a kinda illegal conotation about it and DMB actually
become integrated in Californian lingo.PEACE.
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Bootlegs & things
KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu Tue Nov 1 11:19:49 1994
Bagbys, works for me.
Does anyone out there have a copy of the DMB show from Strawberry Banks in
Hampton, VA 8/94? My list of bagbys is somewhat limited but I'm willing to
trade. Hell, for this show I'm willing to pay. It was easily the most energetic
and all around incredible shows I've ever seen (and I've seen alot). Also, I'm
looking for a copy of the JGB show, also from Hampton, last years show. 11/93 I
believe it was. The same offer holds for this show also. If anyone can help me
please write to me either here or directly. kulpk@tiger.hsc.edu
P.S.-In my messages, smoking is allowed for your convenience.
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THANKS
tmr3c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Tue Nov 1 14:23:46 1994
I just wanted to say thanks to y'all who offered to make tapes,
bagbys, whatever for me. I was a fan in distress. Thanks again.
Tonya
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Re: hot damn in a frying pan
brichar1@emerald.tufts.edu Tue Nov 1 15:11:55 1994
Another couple of bands to check out are MOE, Blue Miracle, Band du Jour,
Supplication, and White Buffalo. I've got the goods on them if you want
some info. Those bands and others (including Jambay) are on "The Wiggly
Compilation", another disc that's out now.
Take Care,
Brian
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dmb crowds
sauldude@merle.acns.nwu.edu Tue Nov 1 15:23:17 1994
i've been reading all these posts about how the crowds at dmb shows suck, & i
thought i'd jsut add my own opinion. i saw them in chicago (for the first
time) on oct.28, & i had a great time. but -- i do think that the crowd
kinda sucked. for a while i was down on the floor, & people all around me
just wouldn't stop talking about all they had drank & all the dope they had
smoked, & frankly, i jsut don't care. i'm not going to rip on people who sing
all the lyrics along with dave, b/c i can understand that (as annoying as it
may sometimes be). i later got claustrophobic from all the drunk
inconsiderate assholes bumping into me & pissing me off, so i went up to the
balcony, where i had room to groove along w/ the band.
the highlights of the show for me were jimi thing, dancing nancies & all along
the watchtower. how many peope have covered that tune? (*dylan*, u2, dead,
hendrix, dmb... any more?)
peace...
saul.
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take a deep breath
tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Nov 1 15:28:16 1994
Ok i just finished reading todays postings and everyone --please mellow out--
people are right in saying that minarets is becoming like the phish
net--all complaints and flames (phlames) .. this is a great thing we have
here it gives all of us DMB fans a place to talk (about DMB) trade tapes
get rides to shows, ask questions, get answers, meet people, etc, etc..
why waste everyones time by posting some negative shit that dosen't have
anything to do with the band...
has it they'll be playing two sets ( kind of bummed of the recent trend
in short, text book shows) ..lets hope they decide to jammmmmm...it is
the first anniversery (spelling?) of RTT and lexington (with washington
and lee) is a place where dave and the boys played a lot before they meet
RCA...
I'll give a 2nd gen soundboard (extra crispy) of the 9.27.94 UVA show to
the first newbie to tell me --what two marley songs do DMB cover-and
cover well i might add..
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aware
Andrea.B.Korber@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Tue Nov 1 15:44:27 1994
the number is still 1-800-333-1245
cd's are 14$ each and checks can be made out to "Madaket Records"
love, andi
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Re: Error Condition Re: unsub minarets
adl@acpub.duke.edu Tue Nov 1 16:47:31 1994
Howdy!
Um...I'm having a little trouble unsubscribing to the dmb list. . .
I'd really appreciate anything you could do to help!
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Re: note
jcrother Tue Nov 1 17:03:35 1994
To Unsubscribe from the Minarets mailing list, send only and exactly the
message, "unsub minarets" to listproc@moose.uvm.edu
Include no subject.
Let me know jcrother@moose.uvm.edu if you have any problems or questions.
alex crothers
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please take me off of the minaret mailing list, i get too much mail
my address is c645417@mizzou1.missouri.edu
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dmb files
driver8@phy.duke.edu Tue Nov 1 17:27:19 1994
how does one get files such as the lyrics file? Are we all supposed to mail
these poor people?
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you guys are acting like you are two years old
allgood@umich.edu Tue Nov 1 17:31:01 1994
O.K. here it is, listen up and shut your mouths. I'd like to start by
saying that I cannot believe how stupid y'all act on this net. I haven't
had a chance to read this net for about a week now. And just now when I
read it, I was ashamed at all of the attitudes you people are displaying
on this thing.
and respect---that dave is very good and people ARE going to like him.
Even if it is those 17 year old's that have showed up at shows lately
like the vic in chicago. Music is a stange thing, people are arrogant
and vain about bands that they deem amazing. I have always thought that
it was just with the fans, but after becoming good friends with Jack
O'neil and Cary Peirce, they discussed with me the concept of band
assholeness, no not hte band itself for they couldn't care less, but the
fans. Those that think that no one else can like the band. Now, do know
about this shit, because I myself am up to my heels in assholeness, I
have always been thouroughly angry with people who I didn't deem worthy
to like "my band". And for all you fuckers out there who act like you
are three years old, complaining about how popular he is getting, keep it
to yourself, it's a known fact, and I am sure we all fell funny about his
popularity, it's obvious to us all.
posts about everything from complaints to other whines. Let's go back to
talking about show that he has played in the past and recently. I enjoy
dave and what cute, if not funny, things he says. But overall, quit
complaining, I give so much credit and respect to everyone who HAS
listened to him for a long time and have had to put up with all of this
shit on the net. For those of you who have just gotten on it, sit back
and read what's going on, this should be a network to talk about the
band, and what it is doing now, not it's future, for noone can rally
speculate on what is going to happen.
I'll be the first to tell you guys. It was not spectacular, but it still
was classic dave. It seemed that he was in a big hurry to take off to
Europe and he virtually ran out of the place. I was lucky enough to be
in the front row in a bar that holds about 300. Had some nice
confrontations with him and was happy that he recognized me from Nantucket.
(It probably helped that I had a Something Natural from Nantucket shirt
on). He actually said to me, hey that's the man from nantucket, nice to
see you again. Post-I had the oportunity to meet him on the street by
The Hub in Nantucket last summer. Anyways among the interesting things
that took place was a fan(my friend) saying something about spotlight and
him replying, "spotlight, never heard of it." Kinda funny. Of course he
opened up with O.S.W. and ended with Watchtower with nothing really new
and invigorating except Get in Line. I did have the pleasure of asking
him, in the middle of Jimmy Thing, to sing Yellow Subamarine, and he
smiled and sang it. Carter was really hip, Lessard whined about his
system, and Boyd zoned out when he wasn't playing (never onnce
acknowledging the crowd). I guess I have really come to enjoy Pay for
What you get, I was looking forward to Say Goodbye, but I thought that
Pay For was equally amazing. Rusted Root was good again, it was almost
halloween and some funny guy dressed up like a hooker got up on stage and
danced his daylights out. But back to DMB, Dave was really friendly, and
last but not least, Moore wasn't feeling really well.
Stefan never says anything or shows much emotion. Maybe he lets his base
speak for him, but being such a young guy, I comend him on not letting it
get to his head.
them this week, I'll be sending them tommorrow. Sorry---one more, you
guys quit with the controversy over "being friends," quicklay and
goodbye," and whatever else you guys call it. It used to be called
Quicklay & Goodbye but now it is Say Goodbye. Someone out there, I don't
remember, got offended by that title, that's to bad, because I have heard
him call it that at a show. IT'S NOT SEXIST. "his wife and her lover."
It's time that everyone stops complaining, good for the band, their
popularity is no reason to put other people down. Ever. It would be sad
if those that are inclined to complaining had no background. I think
that if anyone, I'd give those at UVM,UVA,William and Mary,and Washington
and Lee my ear, they are much more news worthy than most.
then write me directly at, it's allgood@umich.edu if you don't
then let's let the net go back to the basics. Alot of smiles and
information on the best band in the world today.
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It's called SAY GOODBYE
jcrother Tue Nov 1 17:32:07 1994
So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but
have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for
sure, please post.
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It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends." I think.
Woj
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It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
Only Dave knows the REAL title..
Only Dave knows the REAL title....and it's SAY GOODBYE. plain and
simple. You can call it whatever you want, but that's the title.
alex crothers
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HORDE/RIVERSIDE PARK SHOW '94
MPOWERS1@ithaca.edu Tue Nov 1 17:54:59 1994
Dave Matthews Band fan since last Christmas (not bad since I'm in the Northeast
-just JOKING!!!!!!!) ANyways. I was gonna catch them at the Paradise in
Boston last summer, but stupid me, waited until the last minute and was stuck
outside of a soldout show. But, I did catch the band at the Riverside Park
Horde Show in Agawam, MA this August. And they were great!! I can only imagine
what they are like in a club. I was wondering if anyone has ac
(whoops) a
copy of that Agawam show?????????? I saw a couple of tapers in the crowd.
I have plenty of Phish and God Street Wine to trade or I always a have blanks
and postage. Could someone be kind enough to help out a newbie?????
Thanks for the time and space! Later.
Mike (mpowers1@ithaca.edu)
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Re: It's called SAY GOODBYE
driver8@phy.duke.edu Tue Nov 1 17:57:40 1994
Dave called it Quick Lay at his show at Duke last year...now that's
striaght from the horses mouth!
So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but
have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for
sure, please post.
------
It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends." I think.
Woj
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It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
Only Dave knows the REAL title..
Only Dave knows the REAL title....and it's SAY GOODBYE. plain and
simple. You can call it whatever you want, but that's the title.
alex crothers
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Re: It's called SAY GOODBYE
jcrother Tue Nov 1 18:09:05 1994
Dave called it Quick Lay at his show at Duke last year...now that's
striaght from the horses mouth!
Dave has called this song by a bunch of names and if I remember
correctly was taking suggestions for a permanent title.
It now has a permanent title, "Say Goodbye."
Like I said, you can call it whatever
you want but the lyrics are copyrighted under the title, 'Say Goodbye.'
alex crothers
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John Prine and Daniel Lenoir
sctm@vt.edu Tue Nov 1 19:25:11 1994
Three quick questions. 1.)Who was John Prine? Is he in a band, is he
famous and I'm just an idiot for not knowing? 2.)Who was Daniel Lenoir?
3.) Was True Reflections written by Boyd or Dave, or was it a cover tune
also? Thanks a lot!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg, VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where, but who you're with that really matters!"
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Re: hot damn in a frying pan
axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu Tue Nov 1 19:34:10 1994
Another couple of bands to check out are MOE, Blue Miracle, Band du Jour,
Supplication, and White Buffalo. I've got the goods on them if you want
some info. Those bands and others (including Jambay) are on "The Wiggly
Compilation", another disc that's out now.
Take Care,
Brian
Brian mentions one of my favorite local bands, Blue Miracle. They play
every Tuesday night in the ACC college town on College Park, MD, and
every Wednesday in the nearby town of Baltimore, both at small clubs with
loyal followings of Phish/ Dead heads who attend regularly. Sound at all
familiar? They're a lot more southern jam oriented than DMB- Allman's
type sound. Great dancing, small, cool crowds, not too crowded. i just
got their mailer today and I noticed they'll be at the Flood Zone in
November- check em out. Ask for a Peace Frog cover as the encore- it's a
sight to see (and hear).
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Please help!
MLLECKNE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Nov 1 20:47:29 1994
Hi! I'm a newcomer to the dmb list as of today. I'm really excited that
I found out about this list cuz I really love dmb as I'm sure as everyone
else does also. I have a favor to ask of anyone and everyone. I go to
James Madison University and I'm doing a 10 page research paper for english
due in about a week and a half. My topic is on people who follow around
bands and have made that their life. For instance people who followed around
the Dead for years, or people who don't really live in one place but just
want to be free to follow around the music they love. I hope I made enough
sense. As you can see the paper has room for change, etc. If you have
any neat ideas on what I can write about, feel free to send me info-pleaaassse!
I appreciate any info you may have and am willing to interview you too-don't
you feel special,ha!
Thank you so much
-Michelle Leckner
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Re: It's called SAY GOODBYE
CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu Tue Nov 1 21:20:01 1994
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it is titled 'say goodbye'
you may not be aware that this soang has evolved and
untertaken many different names.
it's name.. at present.. is 'say goodbye'. if there is any
disagreement with this i will give you the most recent date
(this fall!) that this has been noted at.
onther thing.. i'm not sure if you al lknow this.. but
alex's word on facts is generally correct. i mean.. not to
make certain individuals who feel compelled to correct him
feel bad or anything..but, he is the founding memeber of this
net.
Dave called it Quick Lay at his show at Duke last year...now that's
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Duke University, Dept. of Physics
So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but
have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for
sure, please post.
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It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends." I think.
Woj
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It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
Only Dave knows the REAL title..
Only Dave knows the REAL title....and it's SAY GOODBYE. plain and
simple. You can call it whatever you want, but that's the title.
alex crothers
love and nourishment to all.
live well, dream well.. love well.
cec
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everything dates in the west with good ole DMB
WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU Tue Nov 1 21:32:27 1994
! New Year's plans? * At the Mclean Hilton at Tysons Corner in Virginia.
! Playing in the main ballroom, whole hotel reserved for the party. Tix are
! $75 and include open bar and all the kick ass food you can eat. For info you
! can call 703-242-3648. Tix go on sale in about 2 weeks.
!
! *I don't think I told you about this yet...We are touring the west with DMB
! in Nov. and December. Here is the updated schedule.
! 1-Nov VENUS Di MILO -BOSTON, MA W/ CHUCKLEHEAD
! 2-Nov Granny Killam's - portland, ME w/ Jupiter Coyote
! 3-Nov aka club - nyc, ny **9 pm industry showcase
! 4-Nov STONE BALLOON - NEWARK, DE
! 5-Nov Bogies - Albany NY, w/ from good homes
! 6-Nov
! 7-Nov
! 8-Nov TATOO - STATE COLLEGE, PA
! 9-Nov the middle east - Philly, pa
! 10-Nov METRONOME - BURLINGTON, VT
! 11-Nov STONE PONY - ASBURY PARK, NJ
! 12-Nov DC armory w/ the Judybats - Washington DC
! 13-Nov WVGO RADIO - RICHMOND, VA LIVE IN THE STUDIO
! 14-Nov HAMMERJACKS - BALTIMORE, MD W/ THE METERS
! 15-Nov
! 16-Nov CROSSROADS - CHARLOTTESVILLE,VA W/ THE METERS
! 17-Nov FOX THEATRE - BOULDER, CO WITH DMB, ALL AGES
! 18-Nov FOX THEATRE - BOULDER, CO WITH DMB
! 19-Nov FOX THEATRE - BOULDER, CO WITH DMB
! 20-Nov VAIL CO. WITH DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
! 21-Nov STEAMBOAT SPRINGS, CO
! 22-Nov OFF
! 23-Nov CAT'S PAW - BOZEMAN, MT WITH DMB
! 24-Nov OFF
! 25-Nov ROSELAND BALLROOM - PORTLAND, OR WITH DMB
! 26-Nov BACKSTAGE - SEATTLE, WA WITH DMB
! 27-Nov TOWN PUMP - VANCOUVER, BC CANADA WITH DMB
! 28-Nov OFF
! 29-Nov GOOD TIMES - EUGENE, OR WITH DMB
! 30-Nov OFF
! 1-Dec SANTA CRUZ WITH DMB TBA
! 2-Dec LAKE TAHOE OR RENO TBA
! 3-Dec BREW & BEAT - ARCATA, CA FOR OCEAN AID W/ JAMBAY
! 4-Dec GREAT AMERICAN - SAN FRANCISCO, CA WITH DMB
! 5-Dec OFF
! 6-Dec SALT LAKE CITY TBA
! 7-Dec FOX THEATRE- BOULDER, CO
! 8-Dec TRAILS END - VAIL CO
! 9-Dec FLY ME TO THE MOON - TELLURIDE, CO
! 10-Dec FLY ME TO THE MOON - TELLURIDE, CO
! 11-Dec COLORADO TBA
! 12-Dec COLORADO TBA
! 13-Dec
! 14-Dec
! 15-Dec JM'S - HARRISONBURG,VA
! 16-Dec 8 X 10 CLUB - BALTIMORE, MD
!
! later, Randy
Thanks to all, for the mammoth response to the tree offer. I look forward to
doing this and I have gotten abou 25 responses or so. If you want in, email
me within the week. I'll confirm everyone probably sunday evening by the
list and personally just to make sure that you got in. I've gotten some
bounced mail, so check your accounts. Gracious many thanks to all who've
helped so far, to Ryan and everything, and to the one that stirs us all in
the groove. See ya, peace, Will
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'Say Goodbye'
Phoebe.T.Manchester@dartvax.dartmouth.edu Tue Nov 1 21:37:46 1994
So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but
have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for
sure, please post.
------
It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends." I think.
Woj
It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
Only Dave knows the REAL title..
--- end of quoted material ---
at the october 8 show at the avalon in boston dave introduced it as 'Say
Goodbye'
__ptm
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DMB on mtv
hls5c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Tue Nov 1 22:03:43 1994
hey all,
9:55pm. amazing. they even mentioned minarets net. they interviewed dave and
boyd. it was pretty nice, i guess. anybody else see this?
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DAVE ON MTV!!!!!!
JSLAGHT@drew.edu Tue Nov 1 22:04:35 1994
9:51 pm, eastern time. I just witnessed Dave himself on MTV news. I only
caught the last minute or so of it, but they were talking about the band
spreading in popularity due to bootlegs and Minarets(not specifically named,
they said a program on Internet). Very astonishing to see, they had some live
footage(actally looked like Roseland, I did see some video cameras there).
I'm shaking. I don't know what to think.
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Re: MINARETS digest 335
JFDITT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU Tue Nov 1 22:07:27 1994
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Re: DAVE ON MTV!!!!!!
jpederso@d.umn.edu Tue Nov 1 22:18:59 1994
The first person to complain about Dave being on MTV and that being a
really bad thing and that he's "selling out" or whatever is going to get
a really, really big wedgy from me. Let's all be nice.
9:51 pm, eastern time. I just witnessed Dave himself on MTV news. I only
caught the last minute or so of it, but they were talking about the band
spreading in popularity due to bootlegs and Minarets(not specifically named,
they said a program on Internet). Very astonishing to see, they had some live
footage(actally looked like Roseland, I did see some video cameras there).
I'm shaking. I don't know what to think.
-dr.oopy
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Re: DAVE ON MTV!!!!!!
brosenh@unix.cc.emory.edu Tue Nov 1 22:22:51 1994
weeks ago. During the first half of the show, MTV filmed with camera dudes on
T-shirt and runnin' 'round on stage. He even hit Boyd's violin at one
point. Dave was getting visibly upset, often times mouthing the words
"FUCK YOU" which I could make out all the way bavck by the board. Dave
says at the show after a killer Watchtower..."Sorry itr took a while to
recover from that big funky camera in my face. I'm still a damn country
boy, and they stick this big friggin' camera in my face, and I'm like
FUCK...FUCK" Then he played Cry Freedom.
======================================================Barry
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Jambay offer
grayp@pinn.net Tue Nov 1 22:46:34 1994
If you've already replied, there is no need to do it again.
Also the Edwin McCain offer is closed. I'll try to do it again soon.
Gray
Silence comes with no instructions!
---------- Reposted message ----------
I think the best way we can get Jambay to play the east coast is to
spread the word as much as possible around here as well as everywhere
else possible.
To anyone who has never Jambay, they are a fantastic band who play all
original music that completely rocks.
In any case, I have been given a tape to spread. It is a clone of the
master board from 6-14-93 Fox Theatre - Boulder, CO
I have not listened to the whole tape yet so I cannot provide you with a
setlist or exact times. It is on 2 120min dats, but I doubt it is 240min
long. I will post more specifics later.
If you want this tape, send me an email saying "yes i want it".
I should also know whether you want a dat or analog copy and if you can
make copies for others.
I don't know if this will follow the usual tree distribution cycle & I
will make that decision when I find out what kind of response I get.
Silence comes with no instructions,
Gray
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nakamichi
grayp@pinn.net Tue Nov 1 22:58:02 1994
I am curious if anyone out there has any recomendations for a resonable &
reliable place to mail order nakamichi cassette decks. Preferably one
with stock of the discontinued CR series or a CASS-1.5
Thanks,
Gray
Silence comes with no instructions!
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Yet another band
LAW0001@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU Tue Nov 1 23:34:34 1994
Uncle Mingo. These funky Charleston, SC guys have been rocking the SE for
keyboardist plays on a couple of tracks on Edwin McCain's Solitude CD and
Check them out live, esp if you like pogo sticks.
Jim.
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Help
nbichart@cap.gwu.edu Wed Nov 2 01:04:34 1994
How do I unsubscribe myself from this list?
Sorry for the waste of bandwith
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mtv
JFDITT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU Wed Nov 2 02:23:57 1994
I think there is a transcript of the MTV segment on America Online, but I have
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Re: everything dates in the west with good ole DMB
malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU Wed Nov 2 03:43:52 1994
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Wake show
peterke3@wfu.edu Wed Nov 2 08:19:41 1994
anyone out there going to the wake show? Anyone out there taping it? Hope
to see you all there
Kristin
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Re: your mail
alberbc4@wfu.edu Wed Nov 2 08:45:07 1994
has anyone seen a show at wait chapel before? if so, could you tell me
what the seating arrangements are like (ie, reserved, floor/balcony, etc.).
thanks a lot.
dave
Wait Chapel seats 2,379 people (i have a little pamphlet here on it) Im
not sure how many of those are in the balcony however. The seats on the
floor are arranged in 4 sections with three aisles between them. The
seating is reserved but i heard that when WP played there, evryone got up
and was in the aisles and pushing put towards the front, pretty much
ignoring the reserved seating thing... but i wasnt there...
there it is..
kristin
Kristin is right. additionally, I think about 3/4 of the seats are on the
floor. balcony seats won't be bad though, still good view and good sound.
I saw widespread there and the "reserved seating" was pretty much ignored
at least for the front half of the floor. see you there
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Indiana Confusion!!
SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET Wed Nov 2 11:02:10 1994
Alright,
be playing at the Mars? in Bloomington, IN. Called the Rusted Root hotline
also and they said Root would be playing with DMB on 11/14 at the Vogue in
Indianapolis and then by themselves in Bloomington on 11/15. Now I remember a
while back someone posting dates with DMB playing at the Vogue on 11/14. WHO'S
RIGHT????? Please tell me. i'm sur3e ticketmaster has no clue.....
Steve
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offer closed
tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Wed Nov 2 11:20:46 1994
Thanks for the huge response (25 in one day) but some guy named kyle won
and will be getting the tape... hope everyone who responded read what i
had to say.. look for another offer closer to the lexington show..
-anyone interested in a gathering before the show- if enough people are
we could get a little pre-concert party cooking
let me know T.J.P
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newbie dat grovel
WANGDE@bcvms.bc.edu Wed Nov 2 11:41:56 1994
does anybody want to help out a newbie with a dat copy of the roseland show..
i don't have much to trade, but i'll do my best to do something for it...
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Re: Wake show
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us Wed Nov 2 12:00:51 1994
anyone out there going to the wake show? Anyone out there taping it? Hope
to see you all there
Kristin
I'm going, working security, and will most likely tape it. It'll be a
great show, in a nice, acoustically sound room. But remember, there is
NO SMOKING at this show, and this will DEFINITELY be enforced. At the
Widespread Panic show last month, there was $80,000 damage done, and we
don't want this to happen again. (friendly reminder to everyone who
attends this show :-).
Dan
PS - Anyone who wants to get a copy of the FAQ, just send me a note.
--
Daniel J. Blanchat | Question Authority. Question Reality. Question Me.
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian | source for information, you most assuredly do.
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dave on mtv
msyst5+@pitt.edu Wed Nov 2 12:11:34 1994
i do not usually post here or read through all the digests so if you have
heard this allready than i am sorry. last night while sitting in front of
the tv, watching mtv, the mtv news came on with a special report about
the dave matthews band. they went on to describe the band and talk about
their fan base that has built up over the years and so on. they talked to
dave and boyd about randon stuff(touring, the new album, etc.) boyd
talked about the bootlegs tapes and he also mentioned the net which i
thought was pretty cool. they had so live footage and also talked to 2
guys who were pissed they did not get into the show that night. it was
one of the shows with rusted root. at the end dave talked about how he
compares being a headlining band to having sex, he likes it to last a
long time or somehting like that. they said that the band is in europe
right now and they will be returning soon and dave will be putting on a
solo show at the irving plaza in new york sometime soon. well that is
about it you may be able to catch it again at the end of the week on the
week in rock.. mike
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this MTV thingy
msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu Wed Nov 2 12:44:43 1994
hello all
days when i watched it) always showed the news clips again during the
week in rock on sat or something like that. so what i ask is that
someone let me know when the week in rock is on. I don't have a tv but i
can try to get the one in the TV lounge i want to see this. so if
someone could help me out i'm sure it could raise some karma points.
acctually it might not be a bad idea to post the times so others could
watch it as well. please someone let me know bye
matt
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DMB on MTV NEWS 11/2
dee3s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Wed Nov 2 13:01:28 1994
might have missed what it was that bugged me out at 9:50 this morning before
I went to class. There was a full 5 minute spot on the band done as a little
MTV NEWS spotlight/update as opposed to part of the daily MTV NEWS program.
It showed footage from the Athens show and interviewed Dave and Boyd and Boyd
even mentioned US as a computer group that the fans formed (kudos to alex).
It was pretty intense and I happened pop in a tape just in time. I'm not
sure whether it will be on again but it is quite possible. Look for it!
"It's the opposite of making love ... you gotta do your whole thing in 45
seconds as opposed to trying to make it last longer." (or someting like that)
Peace,
Dan Entin
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The VIC and Barrymore Reviews
gstewart@students.wisc.edu Wed Nov 2 13:04:18 1994
I envy all of you who are going to see Dave Mathews Band with Phish. I got
to see DMB Thursday in Madison and Friday at the VIC in Chicago (front row
center)
Anyway, the set rocked and I am not just saying that because I met Dave
Mathews before the show. Or that he geeked out before playing What Would
You Say because I near spazzed when he mentioned what tune he was playing.
Or the fact that Therese, the lady next to me was in a state of near
euphoria because of the band and when I was saying to her that she looked
exhausted, Dave heard us and handed over his bottle of water to her. Or the
fact that he played Ants Marching right after she asked me if there was a
tune that would put me over the top and I mentioned that tune. I guess
there is something to be said about being front row center, a type of
treatement and an inner connection with what is going on on stage that pulls
you into the ZONE. Have any of you felt that way at a Phish show? I
personally have never had the opportunity to find out. Rusted Root is
something spectacular to groove to aswell. I will be able to offer a
bootlegg sometime in the near future of the VIC venue. They definitely
outdid themselves on Friday. DMB and Phish should be playing around the
same areas at the same times if they are not playing together. Check your
local listings. Thanx for the bandwith! I had to tell you all or I would
have burst like a... (guess I am at a loss of words;)
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Dave on MTV!!!
BWSIMP0@UKCC.UKY.EDU Wed Nov 2 13:09:50 1994
Oh my God!!!! I just saw dave on MTV news!!!!! What has this world come too.
he shit out of me...!!!!/////.... No video yet, I don't guess. I really can't c
ommunicate really well right now, 'cause I'm qu " c a u s ;
See I can't even type right. OH well. If you haven't seen it, try too. More lat
er if no one speaks on this. Peace .
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DMB on MTV
AMZENDEL@unca.edu Wed Nov 2 14:14:59 1994
I'm just really curious about what was said about DMB on mtv. My friend who
know's i love DMB saw it, but she was half asleep and couldn't tell me much
about it. Does anybody know what was said. She said there were some
interviews with Dav e and I think she said Boyd, but not sure. They (the
members of the band) acknowledged the existance of minarets.net. Are any of
them on here? I'm pretty sure there not, but perhaps.
Have they known about minarets?
let me know
Thanks
alex
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Dave on MTV?!?
@uvmvm.uvm.edu:SREILI31@MAINE.MAINE.EDU Wed Nov 2 14:37:58 1994
I was flipping through the channels this afternoon (not much work to do) and
holy shit--Dave Matthews on MTV. He and the band were in a short MTV News
segment in which they interviewed Dave and Boyd and showed some clips of a
show in Athens. Please say I won't see a video next week...
Steve
P.S.-- For those of you who might be interested, Dave and Boyd appeared to
be quite sober.
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How to enjoy a Dave show......
cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Wed Nov 2 15:58:42 1994
Past and recent posts of crowds at Dave shows and my experiences at otehr
shows in general made me think about a few things suggestions about
concerts...
1)IMHO the best place to be for a show is around the soundboard for many
reasons...
of us Dave fans like to do..
tapers...
netters if you are so lucky (haha)
2)Don't get super high expectations up, not that Dave can't dish it out.
Obviously we are going to these to see them live and dance and hang out
and enjoy the scene. Even if it all sounds like a show you've been too,
enjoy it anyway, its still Dave. I haven't seen him since Strawberry
Banks, and if he played the same show at the Horse Center, I would still
enjoy it. Reasoning for this...Lots of us have many tapes, old and new.
Alot have the same songs and close to the same versions. We still keep
the tapes and want more. We don't get a bootleg and just save the
different stuff we hear on it.
3)Go with a bunch of cool good natured friends (ie find someone like
Clare to hang with)
This isn't meant to be rude to anyone or dictate anyone's actions, this
is just how I enjoy shows...and I'm just kinda rambling...
Expecting to see old and new faces at the Horse Center, obviously you
know where I'll be, with pen and blanks in hand....
speaker wire they flash with the music, it's really cool...
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New bands and Cool shows
hbenton@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Wed Nov 2 16:12:05 1994
totally kick ass! I have seen them a bunch of times in Charleston and
they are always a good show. When Dave was in Charleston in July, Edwin
McCain opened for him. It was a really good show, and Edwin came out to
jam with them on Tripping Billies. Check out their CD if you can. Sorry
I do not have any tapes, but I am always looking for some!
had some good and bad expierances at concerts. Everytime I have seen him
in Charleston, the crowd has moshed and generally acted pretty rude. But
when I saw him here in New Orleans three weeks ago and later that week in
St. Louis, the crowds at both concerts were great. Everyone knew Dave
and they were really getting into it, but they were still nice and there
was no moshing to any songs. I have never really thought of Dave as a
moshing band. The concert in St Louis really kicked ass. Dave and the
rest of the band were really into the crowd, and their long jam to Jimi
Thing was the highlight of the concert. If anyone taped this show
(10/21/94), please drop me a line. I would be willing to trade some
stuff or pay for a copy- that was a really good night!
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$2,0000
mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu Wed Nov 2 16:38:25 1994
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Re: a follow up on my flame...
alberbc4@wfu.edu Wed Nov 2 16:54:45 1994
i've gotten a bit of personal mail saying i was too harsh about the
quick lay and goodbye thing. i'd just like to apologize for that. it's
just that i know how dave feels about the song, and i wanted to let
everyone on the net know, too. i also forgot to tell the people not
once again... humble apologies...
and clare, it turned out pretty cool....
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________
to possess...plain common sense." \ dave matthews band faq type
--immanuel kant \ person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________ \_________________________________
\ rick thompson
\ stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
\____________________________________
Don't worry about it we still love you...thanks for being informative,
isn't that what minarets.net is all about?
Brian
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WHAT?
mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu Wed Nov 2 17:07:02 1994
their plan, but because of the way the music industry works. they
see a good band and they see $. actually the bagman told me what
they asked for in their record contract, like being able to
record on their own label whenever they wish. DMB did'nt have to
sign ,but why not? it gets their music out to more people. it
spreads the PEACE Dave seeks. DMB doesn't have to be on MTV.
but that reaches more people,too. Life is just trial and error
so why not try everything?!!! i think DMB is on a strange quest
for the other side. it could explode at any moment but such are
the laws of nature. "Here we are,all of us,leaning heavy on each
other..." MTV does mean that shows will be harder to
see and will lose its homeiness, but Peace isn't meant for a
certain group of people, its meant for the world. other people
will start wiggin' on the Dave Matthews Band and you can say
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Freddy Jones Band
mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU Wed Nov 2 17:18:27 1994
played with Dave Mathews. The Freddy Jones Band can really rip! I saw
them for the second time in Vail this summer. They played in a three
band show after Jaockopierce and before the Dave Mathews Band. They
really ripped. They came about as close as you can come to stealing the
show from Dave aTheir album "waiting for the night" is great, but nothing
compared to the live show. If by chance you are inthe Denver-Boulder
area, they are opening for Widespread on thursday at the CU fieldhouse.
Granted, the acoustics there suck but get there early and you will see
some coolshit.
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Secret..
mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu Wed Nov 2 17:19:27 1994
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Re: MINARETS digest 335
STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Wed Nov 2 17:22:30 1994
hey everybody, LOOK, rick's going to post without flaming....yippee....
i've been reading all these posts about how the crowds at dmb shows suck, & i
thought i'd jsut add my own opinion. i saw them in chicago (for the first
time) on oct.28, & i had a great time. but -- i do think that the crowd
kinda sucked. for a while i was down on the floor, & people all around me
just wouldn't stop talking about all they had drank & all the dope they had
smoked, & frankly, i jsut don't care. i'm not going to rip on people who sing
all the lyrics along with dave, b/c i can understand that (as annoying as it
may sometimes be). i later got claustrophobic from all the drunk
inconsiderate assholes bumping into me & pissing me off, so i went up to the
balcony, where i had room to groove along w/ the band.
reading this i've come to an interesting conclusion. there's been talk on the
net since the good old days when posts were so few and far b/w that it was
easy to assume you weren't subscribed (as well as boring) about how much dave
crowds suck. i can remember a show where dave finishes out ants marching by
yelling into the mike "hey, quit fucking around...if you want to fight take
it outside!!!" i think it was 7-27-93, with that infamous oteal jam during
his way into larger venues. most people complain bitterly about this, but
since i discovered phish, i've found myself "sharing in the groove" with no
less than 4,000 other people and one thing i've noticed about larger venues
is a larger sound. no muddling in the warehouse walls that were erected in
1907. the sound is fuller, more open, and you can stand back away from all
the assholes up front. i've had enough experiences up front and in back to
realize that the music is no different 10 ft from dave than it is 70 ft from
dave. so back up, close your eyes, and listen to the music. there's
definitely something alluring to the idea of being within spitting distance
of carter's drum set, but is it really worth it? name good rockin' band
that doesn't have assholes working their way through a keg of beer?
and also, very few people can say that they've never gotten together with
freinds and babbled for a bit on how wasted they are/were last night.
the highlights of the show for me were jimi thing, dancing nancies & all along
the watchtower. how many peope have covered that tune? (*dylan*, u2, dead,
hendrix, dmb... any more?)
sure, 16,000 cover bands who can't get their foot out the garage door. also,
i've been told that dave's arrangement isn't as original as we'd like to
think. apparently some folk artist from the late '80s did it that way.
i can't think of his name right now, because i suck at names. also, dylan
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Re: MINARETS digest 335
STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Wed Nov 2 17:44:24 1994
it is titled 'say goodbye'
you may not be aware that this soang has evolved and
untertaken many different names.
it's name.. at present.. is 'say goodbye'. if there is any
disagreement with this i will give you the most recent date
(this fall!) that this has been noted at.
onther thing.. i'm not sure if you al lknow this.. but
alex's word on facts is generally correct. i mean.. not to
make certain individuals who feel compelled to correct him
feel bad or anything..but, he is the founding memeber of this
net.
fouding memeber? well, aside from the horse latin, alex, you should
the very first hints of this song were played at trax and floodzone
in the middle of july, 1993. this being a period when dave was still
doing acoustic sets to open his shows, he just came out, started playing
this _really_ simple chord progression (i could teach it to my dog), and
making up lyrics as he went along (something i'm not able to teach my dog),
and always finished it out with the "say goodbye" that's very familiar
to the song now known by that title. with a lack of anything better to
call it, someone suggested either any-noise or anti-noise, but i don't
know which one they use, or we use, or anybody uses. it's all noise to
me.
the song was then never to be heard from again until dave introduced a
new song that he was calling quick lay and goodbye at zollman's pavillion
in the fall of '93, though he seemed hesitant to use that title from the
very beginning. i first heard the song on nov 2, 1993, at TRAX, where he
played it not only during his acoustic opener, but during the break for
encore while the rest of the band was pulling tubes and peeing. for anyone
different each time. one is distinctly darker than the other, though i
can't remember which. it took me a few listenings, but i after a while
i realized that at the end he goes into the exact same chord progression
on me.
for the next several months, dave made it clear that he was looking for a
better title for the song, and no matter what anybody suggested, he
just didn't seem comfortable with it. something i was also worried about
was that he was never going to work the song out for the whole band.
when i found out that his northern shows from this august included a
full band say goodbye, i was quite the happy camper. got my first listen
of it as it's full born glory in the parking lot of 3rd st diner in richmond
with boofy and clare. that was a keen night.
at this point, i haven't heard it live, and i'm really hoping to see it
next wednesday, but since i haven't seen a serious dave show since feb,
not including lexington last spring, i'm about ready to take even true
reflections (it's an original by boyd, by the way. i don't know if he
or dave wrote the music, though. i'd guess it's dave because it's very
stylistically dave).
like live music, too. so let them go up front and beat the crap out of
each other looking for the a place to stand. just chill out in the back
and 1) enjoy the music 2)actually be able to remember it the next day.
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ooh mickey, you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind...
STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Wed Nov 2 17:49:14 1994
john prine (angel from montgomery) is a folk guitarist who has been
around a lot longer than i have. he's not terribly well known, but
then again, he played the richmond classic amphitheatre in 1993, so
he's not terribly ignored, either. i know that saying prine's name
without saying his stage soulmates name is something of a sin, but
like i said earlier, my mind is more fucked up than any tripping
billies, even though i don't trip, so i can't remember right now.
it's not nanci griffith, is it?
maybe i should trip. it might clear things up in here.
i don't really know much about daniel lanois. i know he's done some
collaboration with brian eno, and i think he's produced a couple of
u2's discs, but that's about it. (lanois wrote the maker [aka, eyes
of the maker]
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hominess and more kameleons....
STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Wed Nov 2 18:07:09 1994
dave _shows_ losing there hominess?
hmmmm.... doubt it.
just hang out at the sbd. not on the soundboard, mind you. you may
learn secrets about the band and then bagby would have to kill you.
just the way it works. i almost got killed once, but i traded him
three garbonzo beans and a three day old mc'ds breakfast burrito, and
he said he'd wait until he was in a bad mood.
BUT...... (say, say...)
dave _fans_ might start showing up _without_ their hominess, but that's
because they sold their hominess to the mainstream devil, who showed
up at dave shows long ago. but dave knows he's there, and dave knows
that he can control the mainstream devil's heart, and the next thing
he knows he's got a shitload of money, as well as a shiny new washburn
guitar and a bunch of really cool people hangin out back with the
tapers (blake, dan, boofy and the like. clare and i haven't quite
figured out how to find the eject button on a tape deck, so we let them
do it).
(ouch. damn mice. eat'n everything in sight....come back with my ankle,
dammit...)
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question about Irving Plaza show
AHENNE@drew.edu Wed Nov 2 18:41:17 1994
now, when this show was posted in the tour dates file, it said, "Dave
Matthews and Tim Reynolds." is this confirmed? the ticket says, "Dave
Matthews, with special guest Shannon Worrell." so, could anyone who knows
tell me a)will tim really be there, and b)who's this shannon worrell
person? just wondering what it is i'm going to see at my second ever dave
show. the first one, by the way, was HORDE at Old Orchard, ME, if anyone
just happens to have a tape...
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Tape Request
pwchan@mail.wm.edu Wed Nov 2 18:43:34 1994
I too saw dave on MTV. NICE. That is all I am gonna say about that... I
have a request of everyone. I am really into getting bootlegs of shows
that I have been at and I am missing a reecnt Dave Matthews show. The one
I am looking for is the show at UVA's Amphitheatre on 9-27-94, the
premeire of UTTAD. If anyone has a copy I would be really appreciative. I
will send a tape with $$$ or trade, though my bootleg collection is not
very extensive. Another date I am looking for is the show on 10-11-94 (or
was it 10-13 ???) at a bar in Northampton, MA. I want that show cause a
good friend of mine at Holy Cross was there and he says that it was
exceptional. The same offer as above holds true. Please respond if you
can help me out in either case!!! Dave Forever.
Thanks a ton,
Paul Chandler
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Re: MINARETS digest 336
TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu Wed Nov 2 18:48:39 1994
If anyone goes to James Madison University, could you please get in
touch with me. Im going up there this Sunday, and was wondering if
anyone wants to set up a trade of boots!!
THANX ALOT, TROY
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Tape Tree
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us Wed Nov 2 19:04:06 1994
Lately I've been getting lots of requests for tapes from new traders. (It
might have something to do with the fact that I mentioned I might be taping
the Wake Forest show...) To simplify things, someone (some other taper, if
I can find a volunteer to run the tree for me, or if not, I) will post a
"tape tree" to minarets. When this message gets posted, fill out the
included registration form and mail it to the address specified in the
message. You will then be told where in the "tree" you are, and eventually
the person above you in the list will contact you about how the trade will
be arranged. For more information on tape trees, see the faq (which I
can send to you if you need a copy).
Dan
--
Daniel J. Blanchat | Question Authority. Question Reality. Question Me.
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian | source for information, you most assuredly do.
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ticket sale
cledford@onyx.pvcc.cc.va.us Wed Nov 2 19:11:48 1994
Would anybody be interested in going to see the George Washington U. show
on the 8th. Lisener is sold out and the tickets I have are pretty
amazing. I spent about $42 on them through ticket(master). If anybody
is interested I will give the two tickets to you for only thirty
dollars. The show is next tuesday so please respond soon. I would give
a valuable part of my body to go but something annoying has popped up.
So I would like to give the honor to someone else to take my place at the
show. peace
xopher
cledford@onyx.pvcc.cc.va.us
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Watchtower covers
toddb@chopin.udel.edu Wed Nov 2 19:23:24 1994
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the highlights of the show for me were jimi thing, dancing nancies & all along
the watchtower. how many peope have covered that tune? (*dylan*, u2, dead,
hendrix, dmb... any more?)
sure, 16,000 cover bands who can't get their foot out the garage door. also,
i've been told that dave's arrangement isn't as original as we'd like to
think. apparently some folk artist from the late '80s did it that way.
i can't think of his name right now, because i suck at names. also, dylan
Most garage band I know havn't gotten past "smells like teen spirit." ;)
I like the fact that watchtower is covered by so many artists(known, and
otherwise). It gives people a chance to take a little creative liscence(sp?)
with a known quantity. It works especially well for bands who are just
starting out. There's plenty of room to show the crowd what makes you
you, whiile still staying in known territory. besides, it's fun as hell
to sing. :)
Watchtower's also been covered by the Indigo Girls, and Michael Hedges,
(and phish & DMB -- winston salem, right?) I'm sure there's more.
Well, not bad for a first post, I'd say.
Rock On,
Todd
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Re: question about Irving Plaza show
axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu Wed Nov 2 20:19:39 1994
now, when this show was posted in the tour dates file, it said, "Dave
Matthews and Tim Reynolds." is this confirmed? the ticket says, "Dave
Matthews, with special guest Shannon Worrell." so, could anyone who knows
tell me a)will tim really be there,
Dunno- My ticket says Dave's name only, as does the Village Voice ad.
However, Dave very rarely plays full acoustic shows without Tim, and I
would tend to trust the minarets net much more than the Voice, and far
more than Ticketbastard.
person?
Shannon Worrell is a folk singer, I believe also from the charlottesville
area, but I'm not sure about that. Dave is particualrly fond of her
music. He also occasionally sings backup with her, although IMHO, his
contributions are far too minimal. There is also a cellist who appears
with her, I believe his name is Matt something. I've only seen them once,
but a friend of mine who is messing around in the studio with John Alagia
seemed to know he'd be there, so I guess they play together regularly.
Now then- I for one am a little jealous of all those Virginians who seem
to know each other, trade tapes, etc. I propose a net gathering for us
Northerners at the Irving Plaza show- perhaps inside the show, after
Shannon plays, at a specified location. We could trade lists, make
contacts, etc. We could also grab a beer at the Peculiar Pub on Bleecker
St. after the show if anyone's interested (My second- favorite bar in
the world). If you are going to this show and would be interested in such
a gathering, email me directly. If there's enough response by Friday,
I'll send out a message on the net with meeting time and place. Let me
know if this sounds like a good idea.
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Vail Show
frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU Wed Nov 2 20:29:04 1994
Hey all,
The show is at the Marriot Vail Mountain Resort and starts at 8:00.
Tickets go on sale this Friday at 10:00 a.m. from Ticketmaster. The hotel
expects a sell out, so go buy you tickets soon! Oh yeah, they are $18.
If anyone knows anything about the show at the Paramount (when, $) let me
know.
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Rusted Root
x51558h3@usma13.USMA.EDU Wed Nov 2 20:29:46 1994
Everyone,
I don't know if I have asked this yet or not, but I am still looking for any
bootleg from Rusted Root. Can anyone help me?
Thanks a lot
Tim
x51558h3@usma13.usma.edu
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Lover
vastolj@alleg.EDU Wed Nov 2 22:05:08 1994
I am listening to the Trinity College 11.13.93 show and Dave just said this
song is "Lover Lay Down, it is about ?????" I can't understand who he said
though, maybe Jean? Any one have any idea about who he wrote this for,
about, etc. I remember way back last year we had a discussion on this song
when they started playing it again (last oct, nov) - a lot of opinions about
this one. Remember? Personally, I think it is a beautiful song.
onmyway,
joe
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Mystery Tapes (again)
mxgall@mail.wm.edu Wed Nov 2 22:21:28 1994
by some act of insert the higher being of your choice here, I lost
the message. If anyone would be kind enough to respond, I would
greatly appreciate it!
1) "This is kind of new, so expecting words would be a little much,
but I'll do my best to make some...[seek up]"
2) Another early show (Trax?) with Peter, in which D sings "Sometimes
I feel like a nut..." during Two Step.
...again and again and again, any help would be appreciated. Also,
if anyone happens to have a copy of the first mystery show's second
set and would trade, that would be cool. Thanks!
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opinion
fhouse@vt.edu Wed Nov 2 23:26:57 1994
all know!! I have an opinion I'd just love to share... As long as Dave
doesn't use MTV to become bigger he's ok... MTV is only concerned with money
and turns out more "one song" bands than anything else... Sure it's a great
way to get known, but I think it can draw the wrong audience, a Sat./Ants
kinda audience that changes their favorite band once a week... I'm happy for
the success and I hope it continues, but MTV is a dangerous place! If he
appears on the news that's cool, but if he makes a video of Sat., well I
just don't think it's such a good idea.. Hell, The Beatles made it without
MTV!!! Good Luck Dave.....
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Re: MINARETS digest 335
kadams@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Thu Nov 3 01:06:13 1994
Please bear with me, but after all this "Say Goodbye" debating going on,
Any-noise/Anti-noise song has the words "say goodbye" in it, but the
music is only similar to certain parts of the song we hear today.
Progression, progression, progression... On Oct. 15, 1993 at the Hampden
Sydney Homecoming show, Dave played his first version of what is now
known as "Say Goodbye". The only way I can say this is because this is
what Dave himself said in the show... "So I took a holiday, I took a
vacation for a week last week... and.. uh.. I wrote this song, but it's
not really written yet, but I'm gonna play it anyway and I hope I don't
fuck it up, but if it sounds like I'm fuckin' it up, just bear with me."
The song he played is (musically) the same song he plays now. The words,
well, we all know how to improvise, right? The idea's the same, but of
all things, he does not say, "Say Goodbye" in the song even though
earlier versions of the Any/Anti Noise song's chorus does. Wierd, huh?
Oh, well. I think they're all pretty good versions of whatever song they
are. (Did that make sense?) Oh, the I think the lyrics to the HS College
version are in the lyrics file. There was one really great line that is
no longer included in the song that came in at that slow part right
before he starts screaming and its "Call, tell him you'll be late" If
anyone's heard this version, do they agree?? It's pretty intense- he
sounds like he's about to cry. Either that or he was losing his voice.
I'm probably getting way too deep here. OK, later all...
Katharine Adams
7 W. Preston St.
Lexington, VA 24450
P.S. Rick, what show in fall '93 at W&L were you referring to?? I must've
been there, but I'm not remembering this one very well. Oh, was it
Halloween?? Yep, that must've been it. Hmmmm, of course I remember. I
have a whole roll of eerie orange and black photos of Hootie and the
Blowfish (who opened) and DMB from that night. Cool. Thanks for jogging
my memory. Can you believe, Dave was wearing a white turtle neck and a
black blazer. Go figure.
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Re: Indiana Confusion!!
jcrother Thu Nov 3 08:51:47 1994
Called the DMB hotline last night. They said that on 11/14, DMB would
be playing at the Mars? in Bloomington, IN. Called the Rusted Root hotline
also and they said Root would be playing with DMB on 11/14 at the Vogue in
Indianapolis and then by themselves in Bloomington on 11/15. Now I remember a
while back someone posting dates with DMB playing at the Vogue on 11/14. WHO'S
RIGHT????? Please tell me. i'm sur3e ticketmaster has no clue.....
On November 14, 1994, Dave and Rusted Root will be playing at the Vogue
in Indianapolis.
alex crothers
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Tour Dates
jcrother Thu Nov 3 08:55:04 1994
Just a random posting..........
1 London, England
3 Amsterdam
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7 Irving Plaza -NYC, NY
8 Lisner Auditorium -Washington, DC
9 VA Horse Center -Lexington, VA
11 Wait Chapel -Winston Salem, NC
12 Legends -Boone, NC
13 Electric Ballroom -Knoxville, TN
14 The Vogue -Indianapolis, Indiana
17 Fox Theatre -Boulder, CO w/ EVERYTHING
18 Fox Theatre -Boulder, CO w/ EVERYTHING
19 Fox Theatre -Boulder, CO w/ EVERYTHING
20 Marriot Vail Mt. Resort -Vail, CO w/ EVERYTHING
23 Cats Paw -Boisman, Montana w/ EVERYTHING
25 Roseland Theatre -Portland, OR w/ EVERYTHING
26 Backstage -Seattle, WA w/ EVERYTHING
27 Town Pump -Vancouver, BC w/ EVERYTHING
29 Good Times -Eugene, OR w/ EVERYTHING
2 Davis Rec Center -Davis CA
3 Event Center Arena -San Jose, CA
6,7 Los Angeles }
8 San Juan Cap. } TENTATIVE-they will be in this area
9 Ventura CA }
10 Santa Monica Civic Aud. -Santa Monica, CA
31 Richmond, Marriot -Richmond, VA
alex crothers
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lexington
SHERWOODS@urvax.urich.edu Thu Nov 3 09:10:33 1994
IS there any chance that the Va. Horse center will sell out? I'm too
lazy to get tickets around Richmond, and would rather wait if
possible. Did Phish/Dave even sell out? Response would be much
appreciated. thanks, Scott.
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Everything/Judy Bats
klong@nysernet.ORG Thu Nov 3 09:12:57 1994
I know this isn't Dave related so I'll keep it short. The DC Armory
date (11/12) that Everything is playing is some sort of "festival"
type thing with JudyBats as the headlining this show. It runs form
12-9 p.m. and tickets are available now.
JudyBats are an incredible group from Knoxville-wonderful vocals and
lyrics with beautiful melodies. The tickets are relatively inexpensive
for a show with 6 bands that lasts all day.
klong
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dMB Ticket prices
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Thu Nov 3 09:27:41 1994
what's the deal with the high priced tickets for the knoxville show? they
are $18.50!!!!!!
Jen
"When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and
stick together." --Robert Fulghum
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Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN 37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
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Archive Check...
sbass@vt.edu Thu Nov 3 09:53:03 1994
extensive archive could possibly help me with. I have a really old tape
from early early dave and I am looking for when and where it was created, it
anyone knows that. The only IDENTIFIABLE characteristic of the tape is that
Boyd sings Angel from Montgomery instead of Dave. Besides that, there is no
other talking or other things on it to help. Well, anyway, here is the song
If anyone has any info, it would be greatly appreciated! :)
[MY FIRST POST! MY FIRST POST!]
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STEVEN R. BASS SBASS@VT.EDU
224 NEWMAN HALL 128.173.18.77
BLACKSBURG, VA 24060-0011 (703) 232-3984
DMB RULES!
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Re: MINARETS digest 336
kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Thu Nov 3 12:08:55 1994
hey, i've tried unsubscribing, but can't figure out how, so someone please
fill me in.
so many posts, so little time.
llater
--kerry
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help
colby@leland.Stanford.EDU Thu Nov 3 12:49:54 1994
tell me how I would be greatly appreciative.
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Re: question about Irving Plaza show
allgood@umich.edu Thu Nov 3 13:43:24 1994
Hey Adam, Worrell is a friend of Daves from the Charlottesville area,
she's been playing with Dave for a very long time, I have a couple of
shows from along time ago where she sings Angel really well. She also
has a disk out on bama rags too. It's definetly worth buying, Dave
sings background vocals on two of the tracks. Just a quick reference.
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Re: question about Irving Plaza show
btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu Thu Nov 3 14:42:05 1994
Hey Adam, Worrell is a friend of Daves from the Charlottesville area,
she's been playing with Dave for a very long time, I have a couple of
shows from along time ago where she sings Angel really well. She also
has a disk out on bama rags too. It's definetly worth buying, Dave
sings background vocals on two of the tracks. Just a quick reference.
Saying Goodbye,
Kyle
In other news, the show is sold out.
-Ben
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Re: Archive Check...
ShanHop@aol.com Thu Nov 3 14:52:16 1994
The only IDENTIFIABLE characteristic of the tape is that
Boyd sings Angel from Montgomery instead of Dave.
Sorry, Boyd always sings Angel, so that doesn't help much.
-Shannon
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DMB in San Jose
klong@nysernet.ORG Thu Nov 3 15:10:38 1994
Does anyone know any details about this show? Is there an
opening act (RR perchance?) or anything else? I might be
in the area for the show but the catch is that my plane
doesn't arrive until 8:30 at night so I'd probably miss
part of the show. If you can help me out with some info,
I'd appreciate it.
klong
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the best of the best
tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Thu Nov 3 15:49:59 1994
I just think it needs to be said that alan scott at W&L has the best
goddamn dave tapes around ....I have over 50 hours of HQ dave and he
makes me look like a newbie..what's more he personally has made most of
his tapes -off the soundboard ...sorry for the waste of bandwidth but the
world has to know about alan scott (a.k.a shaggy)..look for him at the
soundboard at shows and say hi..maybe he'll trade with you.
just my $0.02
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